Carlin & Evan 9: Whatever Carlin's Trying, She Isn't Nailing It (& Why Is Layla a Naked Hippy Baby?)

[FluffySnowball]

7 minutes ago, Nothing if not critical said:

It's hard to say, really. Normally I'd say that when you're having a real anxiety attack, you have other things on your mind than posting crying selfies on the internet. Otoh, at this point that might be second nature to her. And I do think that she's genuinely worried and scared regarding this current pregnancy.

When it comes to an anxiety attack, you’re most likely right. Carlin wouldn’t have filmed and photographed herself in the midst of such a breakdown.

However, assuming Carlin’s in a frequent state of worry and fear and is often anxious, I can very well imagine that she is driven to post about it as a way to call out for help. Her hopes for some sort of understanding, kindness, and support might be subconscious, but I’d be surprised if it were any different. Maybe she also hopes to hear from other pregnant woman and/or mums who have gone though the same thing and tell her that what she feels is normal and only temporary. 

[rebeccawriter01]

7 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

As a young teen, Carlin suffered anxiety and, from Kelly's description, probably depression. Apparently, prayer solved the problem. 

Carlin is obnoxious, and posting herself suffering and crying looks kinda fake. But sadly, I think it's real.

I don't doubt Carlin has anxiety. And I'm not surprised at this post she made to her stories. On the show she was freaked out and saying she was having a panic attack on her last visit to Dr. Vick with her mom. She's very aware of the camera (always seems to have been) and did the crying without tears thing on camera (maybe they didn't include the actual tears and concerns). She also seems to have (as an adult) gone to this content first mentality. She was in the hospital. Layla was being treated for jaundice (I think) and the first reaction was for her and Evan to film everything. Each rash, breathing issue, etc. that Layla has suffered has been another video where she ponders if she should take Layla to the doctor or other medical treatment and then a follow up with a recap of it all.

I get that she is a lifestyle blogger but it can all feel like too much for the audience. Maybe it is helpful for her to put her life out there sort of like I journal or write letters to myself, etc. Or maybe she is putting more stress on herself to always be "on for the camera" and always generating more and more content. She said that when she was gone for a few days because of bad issues with morning sickness that people were DMing her to find out what was going on and why she wasn't posting. Again, not an expert, but I can't imagine that pressure is healthy mentally for her. Then again it solves that starved for attention vibe she had growing up and still seems to suffer from in a lot of ways. 

The problematic issues I have with Carlin's posting about her anxiety is that she could influence others to forgo medically sound treatment. That can be troubling to me because of the stigma that already exists. 

7 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

As a young teen, Carlin suffered anxiety and, from Kelly's description, probably depression. Apparently, prayer solved the problem. 

Carlin is obnoxious, and posting herself suffering and crying looks kinda fake. But sadly, I think it's real.

I don't doubt Carlin has anxiety. And I'm not surprised at this post she made to her stories. On the show she was freaked out and saying she was having a panic attack on her last visit to Dr. Vick with her mom. She's very aware of the camera (always seems to have been) and did the crying without tears thing on camera (maybe they didn't include the actual tears and concerns). She also seems to have (as an adult) gone to this content first mentality. She was in the hospital. Layla was being treated for jaundice (I think) and the first reaction was for her and Evan to film everything. Each rash, breathing issue, etc. that Layla has suffered has been another video where she ponders if she should take Layla to the doctor or other medical treatment and then a follow up with a recap of it all.

I get that she is a lifestyle blogger but it can all feel like too much for the audience. Maybe it is helpful for her to put her life out there sort of like I journal or write letters to myself, etc. Or maybe she is putting more stress on herself to always be "on for the camera" and always generating more and more content. She said that when she was gone for a few days because of bad issues with morning sickness that people were DMing her to find out what was going on and why she wasn't posting. Again, not an expert, but I can't imagine that pressure is healthy mentally for her. Then again it solves that starved for attention vibe she had growing up and still seems to suffer from in a lot of ways. 

The problematic issues I have with Carlin's posting about her anxiety is that she could influence others to forgo medically sound treatment. That can be troubling to me because of the stigma that already exists. 

[SassyPants]

In terms of pregnancy anxiety, she does have good reason: she has a genetic Clotting condition, her first baby had some issues affecting both the cardiac and respiratory systems (which could have been related to her slight prematurity), The last 3 Bates et al babies have had traumatic births and/or medical issues necessitating NICU care and extended hospital stays. If she wasn’t a bit anxious, she’d wouldn’t be human.

[CanadianMamam]

1 hour ago, SassyPants said:

In terms of pregnancy anxiety, she does have good reason: she has a genetic Clotting condition, her first baby had some issues affecting both the cardiac and respiratory systems (which could have been related to her slight prematurity), The last 3 Bates et al babies have had traumatic births and/or medical issues necessitating NICU care and extended hospital stays. If she wasn’t a bit anxious, she’d wouldn’t be human.

This and her best friend lost a baby at 20 weeks. And she is in a cult that expects her to keep popping out babies until she physically can't and I am not sure her family is much help, since at this point high risk pregnancies are the Bates norm.

[clueliss]

This week’s video, Layla was being sent for blood tests due to her growth (something about growing in spurts and possibly small amount of growth ergo doctor wants to check things like thyroid).  
 

A check on Zach’s new place.  Also a review of upcoming trips including one to Florida (?) to pick up her sister’s wedding dress and Pennsylvania for Nathan’s wedding as well as a Stewart family vacation.

[rebeccawriter01]

6 hours ago, clueliss said:

This week’s video, Layla was being sent for blood tests due to her growth (something about growing in spurts and possibly small amount of growth ergo doctor wants to check things like thyroid).  
 

A check on Zach’s new place.  Also a review of upcoming trips including one to Florida (?) to pick up her sister’s wedding dress and Pennsylvania for Nathan’s wedding as well as a Stewart family vacation.

I can see why the doctor would recommend testing. More than likely it is nothing but compared to say Khloe, Willow, and Kolter, she is significantly smaller. However, she's probably just on the petite side. I'll also note that I'm glad to see Carlin and Evan do seem to take Layla's health into consideration (even if they aren't always as vigilant as I personally think they should be). Carlin's father bragged on television about how he took his kids to the ER for everything because no matter what your financial situation you were treated. I have thought about that and issues that have popped up over the years with the family - Alyssa and her heart - and whether they could have caught such issues earlier had they put a priority on wellness rather than patch and go. So good for them for following a doctor's advice.   

[CanadianMamam]

I didn't realize how small Layla was until I saw her with Maci who is about a year younger. I had been wondering why she was still in a bucket seat (even my preemie only made it to 15 months in one) but seeing her next to Maci, I realize she is that tiny. 

[0 kids n not countin]

3 hours ago, CanadianMamam said:

I didn't realize how small Layla was until I saw her with Maci who is about a year younger. I had been wondering why she was still in a bucket seat (even my preemie only made it to 15 months in one) but seeing her next to Maci, I realize she is that tiny. 

I agree, I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that video of her and Maci playing together.

[just_ordinary]

It could be due to her health problems but also just because she is a tiny child. It’s always crazy how much they can differ in weight and length. A very healthy three year old can weigh 11kg (25,2lbs) and be 91cm(2,9f) but also weigh 16kg (35,3lbs) and be 110cm (3,6f). It’s often really bothersome/worrying to the parents if a child doesn’t fit the norm curve but thankfully a good paediatrician will calm them down if the child is healthy and just check regularly if it stays that way. 

[justmy2cents]

26 minutes ago, just_ordinary said:

It could be due to her health problems but also just because she is a tiny child. It’s always crazy how much they can differ in weight and length. A very healthy three year old can weigh 11kg (25,2lbs) and be 91cm(2,9f) but also weigh 16kg (35,3lbs) and be 110cm (3,6f). It’s often really bothersome/worrying to the parents if a child doesn’t fit the norm curve but thankfully a good paediatrician will calm them down if the child is healthy and just check regularly if it stays that way. 

My friend’s daughter was always beneath the 5th percentile. The Dr wasn’t worried as long as she kept growing along her curve. She is now 18 yo and 4’11”. Being small was normal for her.

[marmalade]

Evan noted in last week's vlog that he's small and Carlin added that her family is short. Isn't she the tallest girl? She's a hair under 5'4".

[llucie]

9 hours ago, marmalade said:

Evan noted in last week's vlog that he's small and Carlin added that her family is short. Isn't she the tallest girl? She's a hair under 5'4".

I also would note that John Webster is very tall so it makes sense his daughter is bigger.

In any case i am glad they are bringing her to a specialist to check any possible growing problems and hope that they take the ressults seriously and ignore all the "well meaning" comments in their last video. I was appalled to read so many anti-medicine comments (and with lots of likes too!) saying they should ignore doctor advice and to not put her on growth hormones if that was what the doctor said.

[SassyPants]

Yes, what matters is that she is growing on her own curve. Alyssa also mentioned that her girls have plotted out on the taller side. I always thought Willow and Tori’s boys were tiny too. None of the G2 Bates has produced a giant child, likely influenced by the fact that they all have had prenatal care. Looks like all the G2 Duggars have finally boarded the comprehensive PNC train too-

[Kayleigh83]

Today Carlin posted a pregnancy announcement… which is a little confusing since she already announced her pregnancy over a month ago? And has talked about it in her stories plenty as well. Judging by the comments I’m not the only one who was a bit confused about this…. 🤨

[CarrotCake]

5 hours ago, Kayleigh83 said:

Today Carlin posted a pregnancy announcement… which is a little confusing since she already announced her pregnancy over a month ago? And has talked about it in her stories plenty as well. Judging by the comments I’m not the only one who was a bit confused about this…. 🤨

I did not read it as a pregnancy announcement. I just thought she had another ultrasound and used some of the pictures from the previous shoot to post with it.

[llucie]

In the new YT video they disscuss the clothing dissorder:

The clothing dissorder is genetic and comes from her dad side. In her pregnancy with Layla she had genetic testing in her 8-9 week and after it was positive they put her on the heparin shots twice a day during the pregnancy. She is now going to a new doctor who made her see a specialist before putting her on heparin again since there are risks involved with the shots. They reached the conclusion to not give her the heparing during the pregnancy since she doesnt have a history of miscarriages, but they will give it to her after she has the baby for 6 weeks, since there is a risk of blood clotting for her then. With Layla she thought she only had 2 blood clotting dissorders but she has 3, she tried to name them but didnt remember the names exactly: one is Factor 5 something (she said there is two strands, and hers is the bad strand), 4g5g2d something, and MTHFR.

[clueliss]

I work with someone (male) who has factor 5 issues.  He just had back surgery and the factor 5 increased the risk of the surgery.  

[Jasmar]

Ive never heard of MTHFR being related to clotting disorders. My kids and I all have that mutation, but there are no clotting issues anywhere in the family, or family history. Learn something new every day!

[AuntCloud]

13 minutes ago, Jasmar said:

Ive never heard of MTHFR being related to clotting disorders. My kids and I all have that mutation, but there are no clotting issues anywhere in the family, or family history. Learn something new every day!

Yup, I won the MTHFR shite lottery and had two complicated pregnancies. Pre-eclampsia and IUGR with both as the placenta was full of blood clots (that’s a nice dinner party conversation topic). I made my girls swear up and down to please please demand to talk to a hematologist before they consider going on any hormonal birth control because blood clots are not to be messed with. 
 

ETA I had no clue I had clotting issues until pregnancy, I do have chronic hypertension that started in my 20’s. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by AuntCloud

[rebeccawriter01]

4 hours ago, llucie said:

In the new YT video they disscuss the clothing dissorder:

The clothing dissorder is genetic and comes from her dad side. In her pregnancy with Layla she had genetic testing in her 8-9 week and after it was positive they put her on the heparin shots twice a day during the pregnancy. She is now going to a new doctor who made her see a specialist before putting her on heparin again since there are risks involved with the shots. They reached the conclusion to not give her the heparing during the pregnancy since she doesnt have a history of miscarriages, but they will give it to her after she has the baby for 6 weeks, since there is a risk of blood clotting for her then. With Layla she thought she only had 2 blood clotting dissorders but she has 3, she tried to name them but didnt remember the names exactly: one is Factor 5 something (she said there is two strands, and hers is the bad strand), 4g5g2d something, and MTHFR.

I did find it interesting that she did give an explanation why she isn't going to Dr. Vick this time. Apparently he is affiliated with a different hospital and is cutting back/retiring from delivering babies. That is understandable given his age and probably a desire for a more regular schedule. 

[just_ordinary]

The scientific/medical treatment for Faktor V is still pretty fluctuating. If you have early miscarriages is almost impossible to say what caused them. If you have experienced blood clots yourself before and/or show a history of early miscarriages (it’s different if they can identify clod clots in your placenta /baby obviously but by then they would have to later miscarriages and thoroughly tested) they will probably decide to put you on injections for your benefit and then hopefully the baby’s. If you have close relatives that have experienced blood clots at young age they might do it too, just to be sure with you even if you never had one. You will also have to supplement calcium and wear compression socks. If there is no history of early miscarriages or clotting they might just monitor you. In that case they are definitely more worried about the mothers health. The more “laxe” approach is definitely newer but changing treatment standards are normal when they have new data that makes a correction the rational objective. 

[backyard sylph]

On 10/11/2021 at 5:03 AM, just_ordinary said:

but changing treatment standards are normal when they have new data that makes a correction the rational objective. 

Oh, so many current issues this could be said about.

But then from where would Facebook memes draw their nonsense?

[Gobsmacked]

On 9/15/2021 at 3:43 PM, postscript said:

It seems weird to bring an inflatable pool to a beach, but I suppose it makes sense with a 1-year-old. God forbid Evan or Carlin actually have to take Layla into the water. 

I’m not a mom and I’m also horrified by the lack of sun protection. I hope she’s slathered with sunscreen and/or has a hat, shirt and sunglasses sitting right outside the picture. With these two idiots, I’m not holding my breath. 

A paddling pool on the beach is a must for toddlers. They can play and splash within arms reach. Empty the pool with their wee buckets then take daddy down to the sea on a few trips to re-fill! Boats can sail, toy soldiers can be drowned. All under the shade of a huge beach umbrella. We never visited a beach without one when my two were little. 

[Keys]

This is my first post to this forum, I’m a long-time lurker. But please let me know if anything is posted incorrectly

Apologies if this has already been covered, but have any of the Bates posted about being vaccinated? Maybe it’s because I’m from a place where masks in public are still mandatory, but I’m continuously shocked seeing Carlin and the rest of them travel and do so many things sans mask as if everything is back to normal. Especially with being pregnant!

[SassyPants]

Despite many of them having had COVID, the Stewarts included, they do not seem to respect or conform to COVID restrictions including the use of PPE or social distancing. It leaves me scratching my head with so many young children, babies and pregnant women ((currently and in the last year) in the mix. I doubt most are vaccinated-