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justmy2cents
1 hour ago, NotQuiteMotY said:

I really hope she does go through with the hospital birth, even if it's hard for whatever reason (financial, trauma, comfort, etc.). If all she wants is a natural birth, most hospitals will accommodate that. Two out of three births ending in hemorrhages and I'd be camping out at the hospital three weeks before my due date just to make sure I was getting high-level care. I suspect that, in my OB's practice, you'd at a minimum be referred to the high-risk/maternal-fetal medicine doctors in addition to the regular care.

In the video she said that she was actually looking forward to maybe getting an epidural. We’ll see. 
She prefers to labor i. Familiar surroundings but Ben will be less worried in a Hospital.

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12 hours ago, justmy2cents said:

In the video she said that she was actually looking forward to maybe getting an epidural. We’ll see. 
She prefers to labor i. Familiar surroundings but Ben will be less worried in a Hospital.

This could actually be a sane and doable compromise: stay home as long as possible, but arriving in hospital to actually give birth.
I hope she won't be too late for her epidural then.

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I'm really glad Jessa is going to the hospital this time. 

This whole thread has had been thinking about a coworker who is 4 weeks from her due date. Scrapping her OB at the last minute bc she doesn't care for the doctor's treatment of her for being overweight, which she is (and by treatment, the doc is encouraging a c-section and twice a week check-ups). Coworker doesn't want to go in twice a week for check-ups. She doesn't want a c-section (she had one with her first less than 2 years ago. She waited ten hours after her water broke to go to the hospital then refused a c-section until one became necessary after about two full days of being in the hospital). She wants a vbac, but OB thinks c-section would be better. She's going to do it at home with a doula and midwife. She's not going or going to talk to her OB anymore and refused to schedule and inducement two weeks before her due date. She wants to be pregnant until full-term and have the delivery she wants. I just sit there and nodded but in my head I'm having flashbacks to Jill's looong labor with Israel. 

I really freaking hope co-worker's plan goes well. 

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7 hours ago, Spock said:

I'm really glad Jessa is going to the hospital this time. 

This whole thread has had been thinking about a coworker who is 4 weeks from her due date. Scrapping her OB at the last minute bc she doesn't care for the doctor's treatment of her for being overweight, which she is (and by treatment, the doc is encouraging a c-section and twice a week check-ups). Coworker doesn't want to go in twice a week for check-ups. She doesn't want a c-section (she had one with her first less than 2 years ago. She waited ten hours after her water broke to go to the hospital then refused a c-section until one became necessary after about two full days of being in the hospital). She wants a vbac, but OB thinks c-section would be better. She's going to do it at home with a doula and midwife. She's not going or going to talk to her OB anymore and refused to schedule and inducement two weeks before her due date. She wants to be pregnant until full-term and have the delivery she wants. I just sit there and nodded but in my head I'm having flashbacks to Jill's looong labor with Israel. 

I really freaking hope co-worker's plan goes well. 

what a dickhead (IMHO)

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@Spock, that's one of the most terrifying things I've heard in a long time. For everyone's sake I hope everything goes well but wow she's taking some (imo) stupid risks! 

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I am getting flashbacks to a fundie blog that I probably read about here (or more likely at the previous FJ site). A fundie mother was expecting a child. It wasn't her first but I can't recall how many others she had. She did not have adequate prenatal care and her 'midwife' kept on giving her different stories as to how many babies she was actually expecting. She went overdue, and I know those of us watching along were very concerned for her and the baby. She was in labour at home for a couple of days before things went horribly wrong. There was some kind of infection of the amniotic fluid. The baby boy (who was given some kind of biblical name like Nehemiah) died and I believe the mother might have been in the ICU for a week or so.
Does anyone remember this?

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@baldricks_turnip, if I have the right person, her name was Carri Chmielewski. This FJ thread was started later (2015), but it looks back at the death of her baby. Here's a post by @Buzzard with a useful summary for anyone who just wants a quick TLDR.

ETA--The thread includes more sadness about her life, including the news that her husband was abusive. Fortunately she was able to leave him, but she died in a car accident in late 2018. (Her daughter visited FJ, hoping to find a particular video.) All in all, a very sad situation. 

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14 hours ago, baldricks_turnip said:

I am getting flashbacks to a fundie blog that I probably read about here (or more likely at the previous FJ site). A fundie mother was expecting a child. It wasn't her first but I can't recall how many others she had. She did not have adequate prenatal care and her 'midwife' kept on giving her different stories as to how many babies she was actually expecting. She went overdue, and I know those of us watching along were very concerned for her and the baby. She was in labour at home for a couple of days before things went horribly wrong. There was some kind of infection of the amniotic fluid. The baby boy (who was given some kind of biblical name like Nehemiah) died and I believe the mother might have been in the ICU for a week or so.
Does anyone remember this?

You have your answer but this is similar to Nicole Naugler's twelfth (?) baby too, IIRC. He was stillborn.

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On 6/17/2021 at 7:55 AM, Spock said:

I'm really glad Jessa is going to the hospital this time. 

This whole thread has had been thinking about a coworker who is 4 weeks from her due date. Scrapping her OB at the last minute bc she doesn't care for the doctor's treatment of her for being overweight, which she is (and by treatment, the doc is encouraging a c-section and twice a week check-ups). Coworker doesn't want to go in twice a week for check-ups. She doesn't want a c-section (she had one with her first less than 2 years ago. She waited ten hours after her water broke to go to the hospital then refused a c-section until one became necessary after about two full days of being in the hospital). She wants a vbac, but OB thinks c-section would be better. She's going to do it at home with a doula and midwife. She's not going or going to talk to her OB anymore and refused to schedule and inducement two weeks before her due date. She wants to be pregnant until full-term and have the delivery she wants. I just sit there and nodded but in my head I'm having flashbacks to Jill's looong labor with Israel. 

I really freaking hope co-worker's plan goes well. 

Oh boy…parenthood isn’t going to slap her right in the head when those kids are older and do not march exactly to the what their mother wants tune.

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On 6/17/2021 at 9:55 AM, Spock said:

I'm really glad Jessa is going to the hospital this time. 

This whole thread has had been thinking about a coworker who is 4 weeks from her due date. Scrapping her OB at the last minute bc she doesn't care for the doctor's treatment of her for being overweight, which she is (and by treatment, the doc is encouraging a c-section and twice a week check-ups). Coworker doesn't want to go in twice a week for check-ups. She doesn't want a c-section (she had one with her first less than 2 years ago. She waited ten hours after her water broke to go to the hospital then refused a c-section until one became necessary after about two full days of being in the hospital). She wants a vbac, but OB thinks c-section would be better. She's going to do it at home with a doula and midwife. She's not going or going to talk to her OB anymore and refused to schedule and inducement two weeks before her due date. She wants to be pregnant until full-term and have the delivery she wants. I just sit there and nodded but in my head I'm having flashbacks to Jill's looong labor with Israel. 

I really freaking hope co-worker's plan goes well. 

I would never attempt at VBAC at home with a midwife but being overweight does not equal C-section. That's nuts. My Dr is very VBAC friendly but does not induce with ac-section scar so a 2 week early induction doesn't sound right to me either. I would absolutely have left that Dr's care as well but go to another Dr or Midwife with hospital privileges! 

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I wouldn't do homebirth for a VBAC either*, but I absolutely did switch doctors within a few weeks of my due date to be able to have one in a hospital.  I won't claim that what was right for me would be right for someone else, but it was far and away the right choice for me and I do wish women didn't have to fight so hard for VBAC access or deal with doctors who manipulate them.  For what it's worth, I am overweight and would be the first to admit it and it literally never once came up at any of my appointments.  I did have an induction-- different doctors have different opinions about induced vbacs and if I had known that several years ago I could perhaps have avoided some of my c-sections by switching doctors/hospitals.  The doctor who helped me have a vbac after 3 c sections was the only provider I saw who actually took the time to discuss my medical history and what the research had to say instead of fear mongering without specifics.  I have a lot of respect for healthcare providers in general.  I am married to one.  But this is one aspect if healthcare that could really use improvement.

*I have friends who have had great homebirth experiences and kept encouraging me to try it.  I could just never get comfortable with the idea.  I really think a big part of it is that I started lurking on FJ ages ago when I was pregnant with my first and had too much time on my hands, and the whole Carri tragedy took place right then and was one of the earliest stories I remember following.

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