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CaptainFunderpants
My sister and I have matched our kids and I coordinated with my daughter for Christmas and New Years. I love some of the matching mother daughter dresses Dillards sells but they are waaaaaay out of my price range, especially with shipping and duties. 

Not a parent, but 100% a sucker for matching. Do it as long as you can get away with it

With Mr. Funderpants I won’t let us go to any event together without at least being color and stylistically coordinated. He used to complain, but we always get compliments and his super judgy stepmom loves it, so now he’s fine with it.
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We do matching pajamas for the whole family at Christmas and I co-ordinate for family photos, but htat is about it. Although my daughter really likes if she and I are in the same color every day and she will say “today is pink day Mama”. 

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My son is obsessed with the TV show Bluey, and when I found matching PJs from Peter Alexander, I had to buy them. They were expensive, but the joy on my sons face when we all wear our matching set is priceless.


 

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11 hours ago, CaptainFunderpants said:


With Mr. Funderpants I won’t let us go to any event together without at least being color and stylistically coordinated. He used to complain, but we always get compliments and his super judgy stepmom loves it, so now he’s fine with it.

Mr. Possum would flee the country if I tried to make him coordinate with me!

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If jeans and sweaters or athletic wear are considered matching, my spouse and I are matching every day! 😂

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On 5/17/2021 at 9:22 AM, Jackie3 said:

The last thing they need is a two-hour video of a classroom where the teacher never hears them. 

That reminds me of being little and the never ending frustration and minor heartbreak of never hearing the Romper Room lady “see” me (by calling out my name). I don’t know whether to laugh or cry 😆

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1 hour ago, MaryOrMartha said:

My son is obsessed with the TV show Bluey, and when I found matching PJs from Peter Alexander, I had to buy them. They were expensive, but the joy on my sons face when we all wear our matching set is priceless.


 

My kids like Bluey but I love Bluey. I’m always like, “can we watch Bluey instead?” Because I would rather watch Bluey over the millions of annoying cartoons out there. 

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I’m quite partial to Bluey too. Though as an older ginger I would have preferred bingo be bluey as red heads used to be called blue when I was little. Now we just get ranga or red Sigh I miss being called blue by the older generation when I was younger. Now when I try to tell people that blue is a nickname for gingers, they don’t believe me. Hence why it would be to confusing if bingo was bluey. 

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4 hours ago, Jasmar said:

That reminds me of being little and the never ending frustration and minor heartbreak of never hearing the Romper Room lady “see” me (by calling out my name). I don’t know whether to laugh or cry 😆

I remember that show!

I also remember when my kids were little. They didn't quite understand what Dora the Explorer could see and what she couldn't (Dora was always asking her little viewers questions, which further confused the kids). I wonder if Lexi and Zoey actually believe their "teachers" can see them, and when they'll figure out the truth.

OTOH, I remember Alyssa asking Allie to tell everyone her teacher's name--as though they were great pals--and Allie having no idea. Imagine watching your teacher day after day, yet having such a sterile one-sided relationship that you don't even know her name!

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57 minutes ago, Jackie3 said:

OTOH, I remember Alyssa asking Allie to tell everyone her teacher's name--as though they were great pals--and Allie having no idea. Imagine watching your teacher day after day, yet having such a sterile one-sided relationship that you don't even know her name!

And right there I dislike Alyssa even more. I can’t imagine being so ignorant to your child’s growth and development you can’t see that sitting in front of a wall and a screen for hours on end it’s FUCKING SHIT!  My five year old can’t write cursive like her six year old but my kid is happily learning through play and interaction. She is very attached to her teachers she adores them and they adore her. She is praised and congratulated from someone other than me. She is popular and well loved amongst her peers. I’ll take all that over cursive any day. My kid still writes her name backwards some days and no shits are given. She will get it in kindy and if she doesn’t she will have a mother and teachers invested in getting her over the line. My child is my whole world (pretty much, I do have friends and work but you know what I mean) but in no way and shape do I want me to be her whole world. It takes a village to raise a kid and for me teachers and school are a massive part of that village. Fuck Alyssa and her Pinterest Beige “schoolroom”. 

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This is what gets to me so bad with Alyssa and John. I’m assuming in their eyes this IS prioritising school. Think about it. She has a dedicated room with dedicated supplies, an official curriculum with set lessons, testing and expectations for the kids and seems to make sure school is a daily activity at a pretty set time. Heck, the way they do it her being really sick while pregnant didn’t disrupt the kids education. 
Compared to many other families we follow on FJ this is real dedication. Unfortunately it is such a dismal curriculum and setup. As boring, hands-off and screen-heavy as it is, it is light years ahead of the Anderson or Rodrigues family “homeschooling”.

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Homeschooling is fascinating to me. In my country (NZ) homeschooling isn't that common, and usually it's because of distance or poor health (in-fact I think it is actually called distance learning officially) - kids living too far away to go to to school and even then boarding school would be more common than homeschooling. I've met ONE person in total in real life here who said she did distance learning through high school because she lived on a farm. Things may have changed in the last 20 years? Maybe home schooling is a thing now? But I haven't personally heard of anyone doing it.

So I've always been curious about it and what has seemed common to homeschooling in the US from my observation - but absent in the Webster household - is that homeschooling families usually belong to groups - to give advice, band together for activities and field trips, socialisation opportunities etc. and it made it seem like a really active well rounded education despite being so different from a traditional school. I wonder if the Websters will really make their kids do all their school in that one room with no outside interaction?

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49 minutes ago, Mrs Ms said:

Compared to many other families we follow on FJ this is real dedication. Unfortunately it is such a dismal curriculum and setup. As boring, hands-off and screen-heavy as it is, it is light years ahead of the Anderson or Rodrigues family “homeschooling

Alyssa has only 4 children with reasonable age gaps. Cannot be compared to families with more than 10 children. Zsu was far more dedicated than Alyssa back in the day, with plenty of crafts activities, library trips, excursions etc. Alyssa is not dedicated at all, she says she does home chores while.the girls do school. Putting the kids in front of a screen at a scheduled time is not dedication IMO. 

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Melissa1977
52 minutes ago, eljayem said:

So I've always been curious about it and what has seemed common to homeschooling in the US from my observation - but absent in the Webster household - is that homeschooling families usually belong to groups - to give advice, band together for activities and field trips, socialisation opportunities etc. and it made it seem like a really active well rounded education despite being so different from a traditional school.

Fundies homeschool because that way children can stay at home with their mother all the time. Of course, some go to co-ops or make learning groups with other families, but I think that Websters "all at home" approach is very typical in their social circle.

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SorenaJ

If this SOTD(inning)RT nonsense continues for generations, Alyssa's great-grandchildren are going to be actually illiterate. 

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Nothing if not critical
8 minutes ago, SorenaJ said:

If this SOTD(inning)RT nonsense continues for generations, Alyssa's great-grandchildren are going to be actually illiterate. 

I don’t think it’s going to take that long….

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Jackie3
11 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

Alyssa has only 4 children with reasonable age gaps. Cannot be compared to families with more than 10 children. Zsu was far more dedicated than Alyssa back in the day, with plenty of crafts activities, library trips, excursions etc. Alyssa is not dedicated at all, she says she does home chores while.the girls do school. Putting the kids in front of a screen at a scheduled time is not dedication IMO. 

Reasonable age gaps? She had four children in six years. I can't imagine what "unreasonable" would be. They'd be spaced even closer together if she hadn't had heart problems (which I suspect was due to the back-to-back pregnancies).

I dont' think there is anything reasonable about having four babies in six years.

12 hours ago, Mrs Ms said:

As boring, hands-off and screen-heavy as it is, it is light years ahead of the Anderson or Rodrigues family “homeschooling”.

Actually, I think ZZ did a decent job, back in the day. She took them on frequent field trips. She read them a lot of books. They did (often silly) hands on activities and crafts. She understood about gross and fine motor development, and they had gym class and things like that. She even took a stab at teaching the older ones German.

Alyssa doesn't do any of this. She never mentions physical activity. I've seen no signs that she does crafts with them. Never seen her read them a book, and I don't see books around the house or talk about favorite books. She hasn't mentioned any field trips, like to the Children's Museum or an art class. There's no talk of teaching them a foreign language. She is really expecting that stiff, awkward Abeka teacher to do it all.

She does focus a LOT of energy on making the girls pretty, though. I loved her concentration as she applied mascara to Allie's eyes before her father-daughter "date."

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6 hours ago, Nothing if not critical said:

I don’t think it’s going to take that long….

I was going to post this. I actually wonder how literate Alyssa is. 

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13 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

Alyssa has only 4 children with reasonable age gaps. Cannot be compared to families with more than 10 children. Zsu was far more dedicated than Alyssa back in the day, with plenty of crafts activities, library trips, excursions etc. Alyssa is not dedicated at all, she says she does home chores while.the girls do school. Putting the kids in front of a screen at a scheduled time is not dedication IMO. 

Due to Covid and a great desire, my own daughter took a sabbatical from her job (HS principal) to homeschool this past year. My GD recently turned 7, and is in first grade. Now, my GD is living in a rather unique situation in that she lives in So American with an American mom and Ecuadorian dad. So, she's fully bilingual, well traveled and rather curious. Alyssa is lucky that Allie is rather compliant. My GD would never sit staring at a computer all day long. I did the HSing of my GD last year when her school went virtual, and it was pure hell. Think me chasing her around to get all the worksheets and computer work done. My GD was lucky, this year was a gift. 

I understand the second Webster girl is more spirited. I think her education might go a bit differently. I imagine AW will be pulling her hair out. she might have to spend a minute or 2 actually sitting with her.

Also, very likely in Alyssa's mind, having an aesthetically pleasing room with matchy-match furniture is indicative of a good education. I think this stems from the messy (likely dirty), chaotic surroundings of her own HSing experience. Just a hunch!

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4 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

I understand the second Webster girl is more spirited. I think her education might go a bit differently. I imagine AW will be pulling her hair out.

Don't worry, soon enough Allie will be placed in charge of keeping her younger sisters on task on top of getting her own schoolwork done, while Alyssa... I dunno, cleans her already spotless house? Plans their coordinating Sunday outfits?

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Jasmar
13 hours ago, eljayem said:

Homeschooling is fascinating to me. In my country (NZ) homeschooling isn't that common, and usually it's because of distance or poor health (in-fact I think it is actually called distance learning officially) - kids living too far away to go to to school and even then boarding school would be more common than homeschooling. I've met ONE person in total in real life here who said she did distance learning through high school because she lived on a farm. Things may have changed in the last 20 years? Maybe home schooling is a thing now? But I haven't personally heard of anyone doing it.

So I've always been curious about it and what has seemed common to homeschooling in the US from my observation - but absent in the Webster household - is that homeschooling families usually belong to groups - to give advice, band together for activities and field trips, socialisation opportunities etc. and it made it seem like a really active well rounded education despite being so different from a traditional school. I wonder if the Websters will really make their kids do all their school in that one room with no outside interaction?

If Geoff Botkin, duck biologist lunatic, had been successful with his 200 year plan, you’d all be homeschooling now 😝😁

Off topic, but when were they in NZ? It’s got to kill him that NZ has a liberal woman as PM!

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1 hour ago, VineHeart137 said:

Don't worry, soon enough Allie will be placed in charge of keeping her younger sisters on task on top of getting her own schoolwork done, while Alyssa... I dunno, cleans her already spotless house? Plans their coordinating Sunday outfits?

I’m sure she already is. I watched one of their last videos where John takes the girls out of bed at night to make Alyssa Mother’s Day cards. He instructs Allie to sit her sister’s down and get them their paper and crayons and she dutifully obeys, knowing where everything is kept. 
 

it made me so sad. 

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16 hours ago, eljayem said:

Homeschooling is fascinating to me. In my country (NZ) homeschooling isn't that common, and usually it's because of distance or poor health (in-fact I think it is actually called distance learning officially) - kids living too far away to go to to school and even then boarding school would be more common than homeschooling. I've met ONE person in total in real life here who said she did distance learning through high school because she lived on a farm. Things may have changed in the last 20 years? Maybe home schooling is a thing now? But I haven't personally heard of anyone doing it.

So I've always been curious about it and what has seemed common to homeschooling in the US from my observation - but absent in the Webster household - is that homeschooling families usually belong to groups - to give advice, band together for activities and field trips, socialisation opportunities etc. and it made it seem like a really active well rounded education despite being so different from a traditional school. I wonder if the Websters will really make their kids do all their school in that one room with no outside interaction?

As a homeschooled IFB kid, I can tell you that they have a lot of outside interaction if they were raised like I was. Sunday- Sunday School, 1 hour, church service 1+ hours, some sort of afternoon activity (Bright Lights, Stepping Stones, etc)1.5-2 hours, choir practice, 1-1.5 hours, Sunday evening service 1.5-2 hours. Wednesday- Awana or Patch the Pirate club, 1+ hours, Wednesday evening service 2-2.5 hours, Thursday- soulwinning, 2 hours, Saturday- bus calling or soulwinning,  3-4 hours, teen activity, 2-3 hours. Conservatively @16 hours a week. It was exhausting. More outside interaction than I could ever want or need! 

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On 5/18/2021 at 9:41 AM, CanadianMamam said:

Although my daughter really likes if she and I are in the same color every day and she will say “today is pink day Mama”. 

My son, who is 3.5, every morning looks at what color I am wearing and says
"Voglio [color] come mami"
(I want [color] like mommy).

So we match ;) 

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I honestly cannot understand Alyssa's claim that she cleans the house while Allie is watching her Abeka videos.

We've been doing online learning since March 2020.  I can barely go the bathroom without my youngest "losing all my pencils" (oh, they are all in your pencil cup!), "forgetting what page is the reading today" (huh, let's try the page where the bookmark is), and "look I finished my worksheet!" (turn the page, no you haven't). 

At the same time, it's probably much more than Alyssa recieved.  I believe her family did some Abeka, but I have a feeling it was complete chaos, constant crying babies, and also a lot of wisdom booklets.  A clean, quiet homeschool space with matching furniture and organized school supplies probably is what Alyssa always dreamed of. 

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