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Bates 29: Marrying Off the Sons


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On 3/15/2021 at 6:40 AM, AussieKrissy said:

I will say this for the Bates, their little ones do seem more comfortable in their parents company than the Duggars. Kelly may be a shit mother but she does seem less detached from her children than Mechelle. The only one that seems comfortable with Mechelle is Josie. I was watching this vid with Kelly and Callie (no sound don’t wanna hear that drivel) but the difference in affection between families is vast. I could never see Mechelle as and say jordyn as relaxed and as affectionate as this. To be fair I didn’t watch all the vid. It could have turned to shit lol. 
i feel so sad for the those kids. I love being a snuggle bunny with my girl. I wonder how staved for touch they are  

 

In the oooold videos, Bates seemed more relaxed than Duggars. Not in the interviews (they weren't used to speak on the camera), but as a family. Bates were a mess, but they weren't robotic as Duggars. This said, Gil showed affection to the little ones, but Kelly never ever hold her babies and was a bee queen like Michelle. I think Kelly is very detached from little kids and become more attached when they are teenagers. As her younger are now teens or preteens, that's why they look a bit closer. 

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17 hours ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

His name is Kolter, but I totally believed that they had a kid called Kondor that I had forgotten about.

Oh I know his name is Kolter, but when they first announced it, I misread it as Kondor and was like "woah these names are getting really out of hand". It was a while before I realised his name was not actually Kondor, but by that point it was too late. He will always be Kondor to me! 

Probably, sadly, this is more individual attention/acknowledgement than he receives from the Bateseses. 

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12 hours ago, HideousGreenShirt said:

Oh I know his name is Kolter, but when they first announced it, I misread it as Kondor and was like "woah these names are getting really out of hand". It was a while before I realised his name was not actually Kondor, but by that point it was too late. He will always be Kondor to me! 

Probably, sadly, this is more individual attention/acknowledgement than he receives from the Bateseses. 

I call him Kohler after the plumbing supplies since Bobby works with Kelton now. They could name one Kohls after the store. 

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Here’s my speculation for the show. A few years back, when the kids started posting every damn thing, all damn day on the gram (looking at you Carlin), the TV viewership probably started to decline. I don’t know enough about TV contacts, but maybe UP TV was able to negotiate a contract with Gill that spelled out what they can post and when. Sort of like they can post and talk about “teasers”, but they can’t go running to People Magazine until after the “event”. I think they hit they jackpot with Nathan and Michael to get this started.

More speculation starts here:

Nathan and Esther are already engaged (probably on the trip to Arizona and California). The engagement will start off the new season and they will be married in the final episode.

Michael already has a nursing job.

Lawson and Tiffany, still not sure about this. Maybe an engagement mid-way through the season. This is harder to predict, because we don’t know how much influence her parents will have in this decision. My parents were/are conservative Christian, yet they and most of my friend’s parents would have been alarmed if we were in serious relationships with a man who’s family beliefs include prohibiting the wife from working and popping about babies every 18 months. Maybe Lawson is OK with Tiffany continuing to work and not be barefoot and pregnant, but Gill and Kelly had a lot in influence over the Trace/Chaney relationship rules, despite what her parents might have thought about “courting”.

Trace will start dating someone (don’t know enough about fundie maidens to speculate about who that might be).

OK, I’m done. And hope this doesn't come across as leg humping, because all I care about is being right!

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Funny how Tiffany hasn’t yet posed for the Bates Boutique. Considering she’s a professional and all. But I’m guessing they might not heart to pay her hefty fee being a professional. Esther has modeled though.

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4 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Funny how Tiffany hasn’t yet posed for the Bates Boutique. Considering she’s a professional and all. But I’m guessing they might not heart to pay her hefty fee being a professional. Esther has modeled though.

When all the family were posting instagram stories from the day of the most recent boutique photoshoot, Tiffany was seen posing in some of the dresses, as was Esther. The BSB account just hasn't used her pictures yet I guess

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I started watching the season premiere but am only 1/2 way through.  Zach quit his job to work for his dad.  On the one hand I understand wanting to spend more time with the family, and I think that's a valid reason, but on the other he's giving up a guaranteed salaried job with benefits and most likely a pension to do so.  That's big.  I am glad that he and Whitney said that he prayed about it for months and did not make the decision lightly. 

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I just watched yesterdays facebook live: 

Lawson, Erin and Tiffany did the live. They are at Chad and Erins house. Lawson introduces Tiffany as his girlfriend, and he keeps putting his hand in her leg adn around her neck. She is wearing jeans. Erin comments (snarks on?) that Lawson has been following Tiffany around the country.

In the new episode Bates sisters boutique is opening a storefront. Obviously the episode was recorded a while ago so the store is already open. Erin mentions its going great, they have 5 employees now doing the heavy load of the work.

I think Erin was about to mention something about Michaella job but she got interrupted mid sentence by Lawson. He tells us he already recorded 12 new songs, but doesnt know when they will get out. He and Tiffany have been dating for 7 months and we are going to see her in the new season. Erin says the whole family loves her and she has the most outgoing personality and loves the lord. She jokes that since Tiffany is so young they may need to wait before getting married. Lawson says that she is very acomplished for her age since she is about to get her masters degree.

Chad gets asked about his construction company and says its going good, he now has Trace and Warden working for him "when they are in town". Nathan is about to get licenced for piloting jets. Erin says she just got to visit an hormone specialist witch was a huge blessing and that she feels so much better than she did.

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Katie and Travis’s engagement coincides with the premier of the new season? You don’t say! 
 

I can’t imagine living my life around my tv show schedule. 

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Ummm so Erin is telling Tiffany (22) she is too young to get married when Erin herself got married at 22.... 

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7 minutes ago, VBOY9977 said:

Ummm so Erin is telling Tiffany (22) she is too young to get married when Erin herself got married at 22.... 

But Tiffany has options and doesn’t NEED to get married. 
 

It does sound odd though as Katie and Travis have just got engaged and they are both only 20.  Maybe Tiffany is very young for her age which makes her perfect for Lawson with his possible Peter Pan syndrome!

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53 minutes ago, JMO said:

I started watching the season premiere but am only 1/2 way through.  Zach quit his job to work for his dad.  On the one hand I understand wanting to spend more time with the family, and I think that's a valid reason, but on the other he's giving up a guaranteed salaried job with benefits and most likely a pension to do so.  That's big.  I am glad that he and Whitney said that he prayed about it for months and did not make the decision lightly. 

Well, law enforcement officers don't make a lot of money.  That could be a factor.

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3 minutes ago, RosyDaisy said:

Well, law enforcement officers don't make a lot of money.  That could be a factor.

True, but giving up a job with a pension benefits seems incredibly stupid to me--and if Zach has any interest in running for office again, it would have been smarted to stay in law enforcement.  Zach has plenty of brothers who could have taken over the tree business.

I don't understand these people. 

I find it very odd that the Bates Sisters Boutique website doesn't mention a brick-and-mortar store: https://batessistersboutique.com/about/  nor can I find any info online

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47 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

True, but giving up a job with a pension benefits seems incredibly stupid to me--and if Zach has any interest in running for office again, it would have been smarted to stay in law enforcement.  Zach has plenty of brothers who could have taken over the tree business.

I don't understand these people. 

I find it very odd that the Bates Sisters Boutique website doesn't mention a brick-and-mortar store: https://batessistersboutique.com/about/  nor can I find any info online

I agree. It's not only the salary, it's the health care insurance, the pension, the fact that policemen are not easily fired, etc. And even if the salary is not great, it's a stable income. Do you know what people with low/medium salaries do? Have few children!

I also agree with other posters that it's difficult to believe the clothing store makes money enough for 3 owners plus several employees, even if they only earn minimum wage. Very very difficult to believe. 

I wonder if Zach is getting lazy and wants to be Gil 2.0, or Kelly&Gil are pressuring him to leave the police. They probably find that job too wordly and the other policemen could be seen as a "bad influence" for Zach. 

In short, I think Zach leaving the police job will make him still more fundie and it means less opportunities for his children.

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4 hours ago, VBOY9977 said:

Ummm so Erin is telling Tiffany (22) she is too young to get married when Erin herself got married at 22.... 

Personally i took it as Erin being snarky about the age diference, but maybe it was just me.

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Wow never thought Zach would quit his job. Especially with him being first born he did grow up differently compared to his youngest siblings. I don’t get it. 

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In the past Whitney has made comments that made me think she really struggled with the long and irregular hours Zach seems to be working on the force, and seemed to stress about his safety. With show and boutique money coming in and an established family business basically being handed to him, I can see how it might have seemed worth doing. Of course tree work is extremely dangerous, probably much higher risk than being a country cop. But they might not see it that way. 

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9 hours ago, JMO said:

I started watching the season premiere but am only 1/2 way through.  Zach quit his job to work for his dad.  On the one hand I understand wanting to spend more time with the family, and I think that's a valid reason, but on the other he's giving up a guaranteed salaried job with benefits and most likely a pension to do so.  That's big.  I am glad that he and Whitney said that he prayed about it for months and did not make the decision lightly. 

Idiot. Must have gotten to him missing out on all those church sundays. But I do get it. Shift work is shit on family life. 

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4 hours ago, Dominionatrix said:

In the past Whitney has made comments that made me think she really struggled with the long and irregular hours Zach seems to be working on the force, and seemed to stress about his safety. With show and boutique money coming in and an established family business basically being handed to him, I can see how it might have seemed worth doing. Of course tree work is extremely dangerous, probably much higher risk than being a country cop. But they might not see it that way. 

They live in a rural town. I doubt police job is dangerous. Bad things happen, but I bet the safety issue was used by Bates to put pressure on Zach.

I don't think the tree service is well stablished. Gil is not working cutting trees for sure, and I doubt he does the accounts or management. Once Lawson, Nathan and Trace left that job (years ago!), the tree business has only been a façade to make Gil look like a provider. But he is not... They are earning money thanks to the show. If they see the show declining and need to make the tree service work, of course they need Zach. I think Kelly and Gil know very well how to manipulate Zach and are so happy having him controlled again. 

(Now I speculate) Kelly and Gil have made Whitney cut with her foster family, have made her ledt her realtor job and now the maximum goal, make Zach quit the police job. Zach and Whit are adults and one may think they make their own decisions, but it's Bates we are talking about. Let's hope Bradley loves cutting trees and Kaci loves changing diapers, because indoctrination is going to be worse now.

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9 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

I don't think the tree service is well stablished. Gil is not working cutting trees for sure, and I doubt he does the accounts or management. Once Lawson, Nathan and Trace left that job (years ago!), the tree business has only been a façade to make Gil look like a provider. But he is not... They are earning money thanks to the show. If they see the show declining and need to make the tree service work, of course they need Zach. I think Kelly and Gil know very well how to manipulate Zach and are so happy having him controlled again. 

This part especially! During the episode they were all like "Gil just HAD to be home and quit his job at the company as a result!" because they can't just say that they joined a cult and therefore you must grift you way as the lord intended obviously! lol 

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34 minutes ago, candygirl200413 said:

This part especially! During the episode they were all like "Gil just HAD to be home and quit his job at the company as a result!" because they can't just say that they joined a cult and therefore you must grift you way as the lord intended obviously! lol 

It was nice to hear Gil almost be honest and say he quit the job. He originally said that on 19KAC and then changed the story to the lie that he was laid off. Where he was working was hiring people like crazy when he quit. There were no lay offs. 

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On 4/9/2021 at 5:15 PM, llucie said:

I think Erin was about to mention something about Michaella job but she got interrupted

Ahh! I was wondering how Michael was getting on with her nursing.

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Thanks for the recap @llucie especially for those of us that don't Facebook! I laughed through the recap because it sounded like they were all snarking on each other. Even Chad with the "when they are in town" comment.

And Tiffany wearing jeans? Let's see how long that lasts!

 

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