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Might see if I can get it at the library to put myself to sleep when my husband's economics books fail.

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10 hours ago, HereticHick said:

Super tempted to make my location tagline "Leveraging every ounce of my notoriety"

Next title thread too lol

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Somebody on Instagram commented that Jeremy’s hairline has been photoshopped on the book cover photo- I think they might be right! 

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56 minutes ago, Idlewild said:

Somebody on Instagram commented that Jeremy’s hairline has been photoshopped on the book cover photo- I think they might be right! 

How fortunate that his new FB-friend (Kateys brother) Reed is a specialist in men's hair transplants :)

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On 4/10/2021 at 1:09 PM, Idlewild said:

Somebody on Instagram commented that Jeremy’s hairline has been photoshopped on the book cover photo- I think they might be right! 

Perhaps he's suffering from hair envy from being in the presence of Cade Foehner too often. He does have fabulous hair.

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On 4/8/2021 at 8:59 AM, HereticHick said:

When will Jeremy be done with his Master's program?

I've been wondering this too. I'm pretty sure he's done two years so far. According to The Master's Seminary website, the Master of Divinity program is three years. Unless he started online before they moved to LA?

I'm predicting that Jeremy will either stay at this seminary to teach, or teach at a different seminary (since he seems to like the intellectual/academic vibes and definitely thinks he has a lot of insights the rest of the world is interested in) OR do a "church plant" through one of these megachurches/networks. Was his Laredo church a church plant? I could see him trying to use his "fame" and Jinger's name recognition to build his own church. I think Jeremy will want to be the star wherever he goes, rather than becoming assistant pastor at an established church. I bet he would love a spinoff series following them as he starts a church in his hometown, or something.

How their weird lifestyle brand fits into anything, who knows. 

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On 4/8/2021 at 5:23 PM, Perrierwithlemon said:

When I saw their announcement today, I was like “of course it’s a preorder announcement! That way they can make another announcement on the actual release date!” The video was so cringe to watch; JereME is so insufferable. In my view, it came across as him wanting to write a book because Jinger wrote a book with her sisters. It’s like he can’t have Jinger one-upping him in any way.(Sorry, I got a bit BEC-ish. It just bothers me a bit—the way they come across and all.)

More than anything I see them copying Jer and Auj Roloff, another TLC couple who wrote a similar couple book, do the merch thing, social media presence, podcast, etc. They've been on their podcast and tagged each other before. The Roloffs are obnoxious too but are a bit savvier and have developed a trendier aesthetic, and are a bit less religious. Now if Jinger gets into oils, we're done for.

On 4/8/2021 at 6:49 PM, fundiewatch said:

When did Jessa say that? Michelle didn’t wean until 6-9 months and the babies slept in the parents bedroom I think?

The babies were moved out of the parent's room at 6 months but having a toddler myself I know they continue to wake up at night well past that, if only for cuddles and sleep regressions for growth spurts, potty training accidents. Besides taking care of the physiological needs, it's clear the sister moms were saddled with those emotional needs as well which is still inappropriate.

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2 hours ago, freethemall said:

More than anything I see them copying Jer and Auj Roloff, another TLC couple who wrote a similar couple book, do the merch thing, social media presence, podcast, etc. They've been on their podcast and tagged each other before. The Roloffs are obnoxious too but are a bit savvier and have developed a trendier aesthetic, and are a bit less religious. Now if Jinger gets into oils, we're done for.

The babies were moved out of the parent's room at 6 months but having a toddler myself I know they continue to wake up at night well past that, if only for cuddles and sleep regressions for growth spurts, potty training accidents. Besides taking care of the physiological needs, it's clear the sister moms were saddled with those emotional needs as well which is still inappropriate.

Yes, those kids were either super sleepers, super "sleep-trained" or the girls did a lot of night time waking to settle them. I mean, even at 6-9 months they are still babies. My first was still breastfeeding at night at that age.

Then again, I've heard of babies who sleep 10 hours through the night by 6 months... never had one myself!

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Being pastor of a church involves work and I really don’t see these two having that ethic. Jeremy likes to spend time working on his books and sermons but I don’t see him ministering to ordinary folk and doing the everyday work. He and Jinger are entitled- they want a glamorous lifestyle with free stuff for as little effort as possible. Hence the book, podcasts, merchandise and his endless tagging of companies he hopes will give him freebies. 
I’m sure he’d love a spin-off show but I don’t see it happening with any major network. 

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12 hours ago, ToriAmos said:

Then again, I've heard of babies who sleep 10 hours through the night by 6 months... never had one myself!

Mine slept through from about 8 weeks ? which I tried NEVER to admit to anyone, particularly nobody else with a baby the same age, because it was nothing to do with anything I did, she just... did it. However, when she got to 5 or 6 months she just... stopped doing it. And woke about 4 times a night on the regular. Ha.

People make a mistake when they assume there is a linear progression to babies' development. They're such different creatures physically, psychologically, neurologically, from 3 months to 6 months to 12 months that they just don't work that way: their needs at one stage are nothing like their needs at another. First they've got such tiny tummies they really do need to wake and feed very regularly, but when they outgrow that there's teething, separation anxiety, nightmares... 

It's easier, I find, to consider them good sleepers/eaters etc at a particular stage rather than to decide, "well, that's sleep solved forever". I think parenting has made me more zen in that sense: I try to appreciate the good phases when they happen, because they don't always last.

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Ha my daughter slept through the night at 10 weeks but I never tell anyone that bc it just pisses them off 

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12 hours ago, Idlewild said:

they want a glamorous lifestyle with free stuff for as little effort as possible

They want what the Roloffs have but to me it looks like the Roloffs actually put effort into their online presence unlike these two.

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Mine both stopped napping at 12 months. They slept a long time at night but sheesh it was hard to go all day like that. I so remember my sister-in-law, who had twin good nappers, primly telling me "Well, I don't give them a choice. You have to be clear about your expectations." Twenty-seven years later, I still feel a bit of glee when remembering her subsequent son who was hell on wheels. ?

43 minutes ago, AprilQuilt said:

It's easier, I find, to consider them good sleepers/eaters etc at a particular stage rather than to decide, "well, that's sleep solved forever". I think parenting has made me more zen in that sense: I try to appreciate the good phases when they happen, because they don't always last.

 

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4 minutes ago, livinginthelight said:

Mine both stopped napping at 12 months. They slept a long time at night but sheesh it was hard to go all day like that. I so remember my sister-in-law, who had twin good nappers, primly telling me "Well, I don't give them a choice. You have to be clear about your expectations." Twenty-seven years later, I still feel a bit of glee when remembering her subsequent son who was hell on wheels. ?

 

you never get the full package. If they're a great sleeper they have terrible colic. Or a dream baby becomes a nightmare toddler. Or if they ARE the full package, like you say, then along comes the second child to comprehensively disabuse the parents of any illusion that it was all down to them.

(no naps from 12 months though? Brutal!)

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4 minutes ago, AprilQuilt said:

you never get the full package. If they're a great sleeper they have terrible colic. Or a dream baby becomes a nightmare toddler. Or if they ARE the full package, like you say, then along comes the second child to comprehensively disabuse the parents of any illusion that it was all down to them.

(no naps from 12 months though? Brutal!)

Hah you must know my 4 year old, dream baby who became a TERROR at 3 years old and we're still struggling with it. He can still be a sweet angel but also a demon straight from hell.

Like others said, he slept through the night pretty young, then didnt, then did again, then didnt again, etc. Sleep regressions are real. And we just couldnt do sleep training/crying it out, I ended up nursing and cuddling at night until he was like 2. We know many fundies use more extreme methods like Enzo so maybe that helps their sleep (I.e just ignore the crying baby) but then it makes me sadder if the sister moms were the ones having to do the sleep training. And we know from Duggar and Bates stories they did the potty training too.

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Ok, so I am a big believer in sleep training!  The way I see it I feel a million times better when I get good rest and so do babies. I have 2 kids (now 19 & almost 18) and I’ve been a nanny to many children both before and after having my own kids. I’m currently writing this as my new little 6 month old is napping.  Mine both slept 7-8 hours through the night around 4 weeks and gradually stretched it to 12 hours overnight by 10-12 weeks.  Neither ever woke overnight again except for our daughter having a spell when she was 2 and we moved to a new home. They also had regular set nap times during the day. The benefits are not only getting a good nights sleep but the babies are so much happier!  As long as they are well rested and well fed there is virtually no crying, all their needs are met so they are happy and playing while they’re awake. My mom did not believe that it would work.  When it worked with my first, she thought it would never work again. When it worked for my second, who is completely the opposite of my first in every way, then she was a believer!!

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47 minutes ago, livinginthelight said:

Mine both stopped napping at 12 months. They slept a long time at night but sheesh it was hard to go all day like that. I so remember my sister-in-law, who had twin good nappers, primly telling me "Well, I don't give them a choice. You have to be clear about your expectations." Twenty-seven years later, I still feel a bit of glee when remembering her subsequent son who was hell on wheels. ?

 

This was my oldest. My youngster literally slept 20 hours a day for the first year of his life. He slept through from the get go. I paid with the first one ?

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Sleep training didn't feel right to me. I know lots of people it's really worked for, but it wasn't for us. Particularly because my daughter had silent reflux in her first few months (due, probably, to her CMPA), so whenever I laid her down she cried in genuine pain and distress. It wasn't a 'cry it out' situation - she was not going to calm down and drop off and it would have been cruel to leave her.

I've seen that there are moments when my child is ready to do a certain thing independently, and what she needs is my support to go ahead and do it, so I understand that gentle sleep training is about seizing those natural moments of transition. I had no problem with leaving her to have a bit of a moan before she dropped off as she got older, but full-on crying... I couldn't do it. It seemed to me that more often than not she cried out of genuine need and it wasn't that hard for me to meet her needs. Perhaps it would have been different if she hadn't been broadly a good sleeper. But she was rarely asking for more than I could give.

I don't know whether I'll feel different if I manage to have another child. I imagine when you have more than one child, and your reserves are being stretched, it's maybe easier to assert these kind of boundaries to keep the show on the road. Plus a future child might have a totally different temperament, and none of the physical issues that my first suffered with. There are things that work for one baby and absolutely don't for another, I certainly don't believe I have it all figured out. But it wasn't right for my first, and I'll be playing it by ear with any future children. For what it's worth, I regularly fed my baby to sleep until her own preference changed to no longer doing that (she was about 10 months), and stayed with her til she was asleep for quite some time longer. She now goes to sleep happily alone in her bed, so I don't think it made much of a difference to her ability to self-sooth in the big picture.

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My son woke every two hours round the clock to nurse. My husband at that time worked swing shift, basically a three week rotation, so it was very hard to get any kind of routine. I was hospitalized when he turned 10 months so he stayed with my in laws. MIL had eight children and just took him in stride. Got him to take a bottle because there was no choice and sleeping more. Thinking back on it, probably nursing wasn't enough for him, but I was too young and stupid to question it. Maybe that's why he was an only child. 

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2 hours ago, Not that josh's mom said:

My son woke every two hours round the clock to nurse. My husband at that time worked swing shift, basically a three week rotation, so it was very hard to get any kind of routine. I was hospitalized when he turned 10 months so he stayed with my in laws. MIL had eight children and just took him in stride. Got him to take a bottle because there was no choice and sleeping more. Thinking back on it, probably nursing wasn't enough for him, but I was too young and stupid to question it. Maybe that's why he was an only child. 

I'm sure you weren't underfeeding him. Breastmilk digests faster than formula because it has more whey and formula contains more casein. Casein takes longer to digest. You did great, mama. 

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7 minutes ago, Grace said:

I'm sure you weren't underfeeding him. Breastmilk digests faster than formula because it has more whey and formula contains more casein. Casein takes longer to digest. You did great, mama. 

Must have been okay. I loved nursing, it was a true bonding experience. He's now 6'3", and a really good guy and we are still close. 

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12 hours ago, Travelfan said:

Ok, so I am a big believer in sleep training!  The way I see it I feel a million times better when I get good rest and so do babies. I have 2 kids (now 19 & almost 18) and I’ve been a nanny to many children both before and after having my own kids. I’m currently writing this as my new little 6 month old is napping.  Mine both slept 7-8 hours through the night around 4 weeks and gradually stretched it to 12 hours overnight by 10-12 weeks.  Neither ever woke overnight again except for our daughter having a spell when she was 2 and we moved to a new home. They also had regular set nap times during the day. The benefits are not only getting a good nights sleep but the babies are so much happier!  As long as they are well rested and well fed there is virtually no crying, all their needs are met so they are happy and playing while they’re awake. My mom did not believe that it would work.  When it worked with my first, she thought it would never work again. When it worked for my second, who is completely the opposite of my first in every way, then she was a believer!!

Me too!
My first slept from 7 to 7 (with a 10:30 dream feed) at 11 weeks, and then we dropped the dream feed at 5 months. This was with some gentle sleep training techniques and a lot of good sleep hygiene- doing sleep-feed-play, having a solid sleep routine, using a noise machine, etc. Everyone told me I was just lucky and I would be caught out with the next child, but she progressed in the same way.

The way I feel about baby sleep is the way a lot of people feel about breastfeeding. Breastfeeding didn't work out for me. Maybe I could have overcome those challenges with more effort but I didn't care to find out. Formula was the path that worked best for me and I'm happy with that. But I completely understand the way people take pride in their breastfeeding journeys, take breastfeeding photoshoots, get breastfeeding tattoos, etc. I feel that sense of accomplishment from how I helped my babies be good sleepers.

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5 hours ago, baldricks_turnip said:

Me too!
My first slept from 7 to 7 (with a 10:30 dream feed) at 11 weeks, and then we dropped the dream feed at 5 months. This was with some gentle sleep training techniques and a lot of good sleep hygiene- doing sleep-feed-play, having a solid sleep routine, using a noise machine, etc. Everyone told me I was just lucky and I would be caught out with the next child, but she progressed in the same way.

The way I feel about baby sleep is the way a lot of people feel about breastfeeding. Breastfeeding didn't work out for me. Maybe I could have overcome those challenges with more effort but I didn't care to find out. Formula was the path that worked best for me and I'm happy with that. But I completely understand the way people take pride in their breastfeeding journeys, take breastfeeding photoshoots, get breastfeeding tattoos, etc. I feel that sense of accomplishment from how I helped my babies be good sleepers.

Sleep-feed-play is key!  It’s that whole  feeding to fall asleep that causes so many sleep issues. Feed as soon as they wake up, then play for awhile, then fall back to sleep with a comforting non food related routine.  I would read 2 stories while cuddling in the glider and then it was time to lay the baby in the crib.  When my daughter was 6 weeks I had to have surgery and my mom watched her for the day. I told her the routine but of course being grandma she wanted the baby to sleep in her arms. She said she read her the stories and cuddled her and after reading she continued to rock her to try to get her to sleep. She started crying so my mom tried to stand and bounce with her.  Finally she gave up and decided to just lay her in her crib where she calmed down right away and fell asleep. Some may not like that idea and would prefer their baby sleep cuddled with them. I preferred that my kids get good uninterrupted sleep and then we cuddled and bonded during their awake time. She’s 19 now and we’re very close and she’ll still snuggle with me ?  

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Jinger posted on her IG stories a response to a Q&A and said that they are intentionally not sharing many photos of the kids any longer to give them privacy. 

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