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"Ride, Sally, Ride" (or Sex Rules): A Masterwork by Doug Wilson

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Dana723
57 minutes ago, Hane said:

Ride, Sally, Ride, Chapter Four:  Narnian Snow Dance

Narnia Down South

Note: Apparently this story isn’t taking place in 2024, but some time later—there are references to “The Troubles of 2024.” Dougie isn’t clear on the date, other than the fact that the world went batshit cray after Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2023. 

Warning: This chapter was a behemoth, and I tried really hard to condense it.

Ace says to Jon, “Have you been in any of the free states in the last fifteen or so years?” A couple of problems: Dougie insists on calling the red states the “free states,” most likely because right-wing ultra conservative Christianity is accepted as the norm there and they’re “free” of any slight criticism from those even a bit left of them. Also, if Ace had been, he would have been five years old then. And how did Alabama find out about him and make his trial a cause celebre?

Jon really hasn’t, so Ace goes on, “It was the weirdest thing being out there. You know how here in Colorado I am the out-of-control radical one? The militant normal? But when I was in Alabama for that conference,, for the first time in many years, I felt surrounded by normal people, hundreds of them. Completely surrounded by the kind of people you only read about in books. And I was the one who was still half a bubble off. They were all very nice to me, and they had me there to address their conference because of the stand we are taking here, but inside my head I felt like I had popped out into the middle of the Narnian snow dance.”

Jon is amazed that Ace has read The Chronicles of Narnia, which had been banned by the Colorado Human Rights Commission because The Horse and His Boy mentioned that the way the character Lewis treated the Calormenes (an imaginary country of Middle-Eastern-seeming people) was “racist and hurtful.”

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Ace tells Jon and Stephanie the full story of the Alabama trip. Ace’s speech there had been “sexual energy in culture.” His thesis was based on Chesterton: “His idea was a distinction between disciplined cultures, repressed cultures, and dissolute cultures. There is a tendency, Ace said, for repressed cultures and dissolute cultures to play off each other, each one reacting to the excesses of the other.” 

Ace went on to say, “But there is a third way….Disciplined cultures use sexual energy the same way a giant earth-moving machine uses hydraulic fluid.  All of it is channeled and focused—when it stays inside the system, there are very few things one of those machines can’t lift.” (Because, naturally, human sexuality is so easily described. Notice that Dougie doesn’t even entertain the possibility that Christian patriarchy is a “repressed culture.)” Of course his audience had a simultaneous, explosive orgasm over this deathless oration.

As the throng lines up for the privilege of shaking Ace’s hand, he meets a thirty-year-old guy named Thomas Murray, who invites him to his office for a chat. Ace gets the flutters because Thomas quotes a Latin line from Wodehouse, showing that they’re destined to be besties. (Ace won’t be flying back to Colorado till late the next day as “There were a lot fewer flights to Denver now, for some reason.” Because NO ONE wants to go to a reeking hellhole full of liberals.) As Ace’s guard Officer Neil (the other officer had taken off for some reason, because Liberals Have No Morals) checks out the office for any means by which Ace could escape, there’s plenty of time for Dougie to poke fun at the officer for not knowing a Biblical reference that’s lobbed at him. “Bible knowledge was not a thing in Colorado.” Last time I checked, Colorado Springs is a huge hub for megachurches, but WTF do I know.

Thomas refers to C.S. Lewis’s The Abolition of Man, whose final chapter posits a dystopian near-future in which the majority is ruled by a small minority that uses the mastery of psychology to control them—hence, the Evil Liberal Overlords who are selling sex dolls and legalizing weed in Colorado. (Note:  C.S. Lewis was a Christian theologian who wrote The Chronicles of Narnia, Mere Christianity, and other works.) He recommends this book and one called A Theological History of the Troubles of 2024. He tells Ace that he’ll have to tear off the covers to sneak them into Colorado Because Censorship. (Let me pause here to point out that we Evil Liberals aren’t really big on banning books, and more into pointing out what’s wrong with them. It’s the Super-Christian Mommies with too much time on their hands who are the ones trying to get Harry Potter chucked out of the school library.)

Thomas goes on to tell Ace about what led to these Troubles—the coming together of three guys: John Henry, a charismatic Reformed Christian preacher; Tony DiAngelo, an anti-contraception Catholic (who talked about “demographic winter” and invited couples to “throw their birth control gizmos into the bonfire” at his talks—I can see the gals yanking out their IUDs and Norplants from here!), and Allen Jansen, a former Albertan oilman who was chased out of Canada to North Dakota. (The martyr complex is laid on thick here.) The oilman cut deals with the governors of conservative states to oppose the federal government and allow the construction of pipelines to the Gulf. Thomas says, “Jansen arranged for all these governments to not hassle him if he openly advertised some pretty eccentric—for that time—hiring requirements. They are all pretty standard now, though. He would give bonuses to married men who had at least three children under the age of ten, and he would give additional bonuses for his employees for staying married, and also for additional children. And the base pay was such that the wives and mothers could stay home.” Sure. OK.

But, wait! There’s more! Thomas continues, “The cherry on top was the utter collapse of Darwinism, at least in our heartland states, and in most of eastern Europe.” Ace bemoans the fact that he had to take a mandatory Darwin course in college. (Yeah, I know.  I don’t know a single person who has ever had to do this.)  He mentions “regular scientists” turning against evolution because of findings of dinosaur skeletons with soft tissue on them. (I guess everything about paleontology, carbon dating, and geology just went down the chute.) And sexual license is keeping everybody distracted from What’s Really Going On, somehow turning everyone into powerless geldings and oxen.

Thomas tells an anecdote about his grandmother, who at one time had only four of the nine kids she’d eventually have. A woman said to her, “Don’t you know what causes all this?” and Grandma replied, “Why, yes, we do. And it looks like I’m getting a lot more of it than you are.” Haw haw haw.

Thomas posits, “Sex multiplies when it is restricted….When sex is everywhere, when everything is sexualized, what happens is that actual sex starts to evaporate….When you drive through the blue states, you are confronted with it everywhere—billboards, ads on gas pumps, porn in gas stations, mandatory sex ed in all those grades, and all the pride marches. Lots and lots of talk.” Jesus Christ, Dougie.  I live in the deep blue Northeast.  I have seen damn little of all the sex ads he’s going on about. The places that don’t bother with sex education are the ones with the highest teen pregnancy rates and sexual activity, but WTF do I know. And the pride marches I’ve been do have been about as racy as a church fair.

 Ace and Thomas discuss the peculiar phenomenon found in Alabaman shopping malls: strollers everywhere, full of babies.

“After the Troubles, a number of dramatic changes occurred in our states….Porn was outlawed, and became very difficult to obtain….Once women rediscovered what they are for, it was not long after that that men rediscovered what they are for. And what they are for is protection and provision. Once the protection of women was back in place, the population exploded.” JFC. There is chat about the difference between “putting women in their place” and “allowing women to find their place,” and how blissful all the stroller-pushing mommies at the mall looked.

Thomas has a report that indicates that each of the 1.4 million sex dolls sold in the blue states has been used an average of three times, proving that “the repressed states are liberated, and getting a lot of it, and the liberated states are repressed, and hardly getting any.”

What - and I cannot stress this enough - the HELL did I just read?

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My goodness.  Dougie is very full of himself, isn't he?  Just tossing around those concepts and spitting on Darwin...  I bet he pushed back from the computer and read what he wrote and just smiled.

Honestly, Hane, I don't think I could read this so my hat is off to you.  He is insufferable.  He thinks he's "disciplined" and figures that that's the problem with modern life.  If we were all controlled and disciplined, we could achieve so much more.  And if we weren't surrounded by pornography -- like where?  I'm missing out on this -- we'd all have better sex drives and makes lots of babies.

I'll be curious if this book ever deals with children.  My trouble with what I consider to be dystopian novels like this and like Atlas Shrugged is that they just skip over the part about actually raising children.  They want this perfect future where people behave in certain ways but they don't pay attention to where these disciplined adults originate.  I guess in Dougie's case, that little housewife who he's keeping in the kitchen in handling that for him.

Argh.

 

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Howl
1 hour ago, Hane said:

Of course his audience had a simultaneous, explosive orgasm over this deathless oration.

I can see it now...

1 hour ago, Hane said:

He mentions “regular scientists” turning against evolution because of findings of dinosaur skeletons with soft tissue on them.

Sorry, Doug, regular scientists haven't turned against evolution because of soft tissue findings, although they do find it fascinating. 

Scientists Find Soft Tissue in 75-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Bones   In a pile of unpromising dinosaur fossils dug up in Canada a century ago, British scientists find soft tissue materials preserved for some 75 million years.

Like lots of fundy folk, he lives in a bubble of profound ignorance, while indulging in a fevered fantasy life about what actual non-fundy people believe. 

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Hane

@katilac, yes—apparently some unnamed high-tech-type people were able to hack into a system that keeps track of the sexbots’ activity. It’s hinted that these folks work for the Righteous Red-Staters.

@Howl, Dougie is indeed tying himself in knots to justify the “logic” of The Way Things Are Supposed To Be.

@Xan, there is no mention of children as actual people in this book, and women only exist as The Ladies’ Auxiliary of the Human Race (thank you, feminist foremothers of the ‘70s). 

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5 hours ago, Dana723 said:

After the Troubles, a number of dramatic changes occurred in our states….Porn was outlawed, and became very difficult to obtain….Once women rediscovered what they are for, it was not long after that that men rediscovered what they are for. And what they are for is protection and provision. Once the protection of women was back in place, the population exploded.” JFC. There is chat about the difference between “putting women in their place” and “allowing women to find their place,” and how blissful all the stroller-pushing mommies at the mall looked.

 

Let the record show that the men who are most likely to talk about the importance of protecting women are also the least likely to actually do it when the rubber meets the road. Like Doug Wilson who protects pedophiles. 

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7 hours ago, Xan said:

My trouble with what I consider to be dystopian novels like this and like Atlas Shrugged is that they just skip over the part about actually raising children

My main trouble with Atlas Shrugged was that I found it badly written and boring tbh. And that was after I read the Martha Washington comic based on the story (which was a total WTAF moment - I started the book to try and work out the robots, but it irritated me so much I stopped.) 

Also yes, they do skip over the actual work of raising children because the authors don't do it and have no idea what it involves. One kid, ten kids - all the same, right?

I am now curious about the healthcare aspect of the salary increase for 3 kids under 10 though - obviously Doug would be going with the One True Healthcare System where the employer pays rather than the way most of the rest of the world does it. Do they mention if the Totally Repressed But With Sex Robots, Dope and hate speech legislation States have universal health coverage? 

8 hours ago, Dana723 said:

Thomas has a report that indicates that each of the 1.4 million sex dolls sold in the blue states has been used an average of three times, proving that “the repressed states are liberated, and getting a lot of it, and the liberated states are repressed, and hardly getting any.”

I'm confused. So the blue states = the liberated states? And they are claiming that use of these sex dolls equates to sexual activity overall? No, Doug, that is not how it works. One kink does not equate to all sexual behaviour. You need a much better survey Thomas, that one seems bizarrely biased (comparing number of children to sex doll use?!) - and now I kind of want to know how many times these dolls are used in the red states. You know they have them and the data is there...

Also 1.4 million dolls sold - over what time period? This report is annoying me now. How are we supposed to work out if they are a popular, mainstream item versus a niche kink without this information? Dammit Doug, how am I going to understand this world building without complete information? Heh.

 

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Petronella
11 hours ago, Hane said:

Ride, Sally, Ride, Chapter Four:  Narnian Snow Dance

Narnia Down South

Note: Apparently this story isn’t taking place in 2024, but some time later—there are references to “The Troubles of 2024.” Dougie isn’t clear on the date, other than the fact that the world went batshit cray after Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2023. 

Warning: This chapter was a behemoth, and I tried really hard to condense it.

Ace says to Jon, “Have you been in any of the free states in the last fifteen or so years?” A couple of problems: Dougie insists on calling the red states the “free states,” most likely because right-wing ultra conservative Christianity is accepted as the norm there and they’re “free” of any slight criticism from those even a bit left of them. Also, if Ace had been, he would have been five years old then. And how did Alabama find out about him and make his trial a cause celebre?

Jon really hasn’t, so Ace goes on, “It was the weirdest thing being out there. You know how here in Colorado I am the out-of-control radical one? The militant normal? But when I was in Alabama for that conference,, for the first time in many years, I felt surrounded by normal people, hundreds of them. Completely surrounded by the kind of people you only read about in books. And I was the one who was still half a bubble off. They were all very nice to me, and they had me there to address their conference because of the stand we are taking here, but inside my head I felt like I had popped out into the middle of the Narnian snow dance.”

Jon is amazed that Ace has read The Chronicles of Narnia, which had been banned by the Colorado Human Rights Commission because The Horse and His Boy mentioned that the way the character Lewis treated the Calormenes (an imaginary country of Middle-Eastern-seeming people) was “racist and hurtful.”

Hackers

Ace tells Jon and Stephanie the full story of the Alabama trip. Ace’s speech there had been “sexual energy in culture.” His thesis was based on Chesterton: “His idea was a distinction between disciplined cultures, repressed cultures, and dissolute cultures. There is a tendency, Ace said, for repressed cultures and dissolute cultures to play off each other, each one reacting to the excesses of the other.” 

Ace went on to say, “But there is a third way….Disciplined cultures use sexual energy the same way a giant earth-moving machine uses hydraulic fluid.  All of it is channeled and focused—when it stays inside the system, there are very few things one of those machines can’t lift.” (Because, naturally, human sexuality is so easily described. Notice that Dougie doesn’t even entertain the possibility that Christian patriarchy is a “repressed culture.)” Of course his audience had a simultaneous, explosive orgasm over this deathless oration.

As the throng lines up for the privilege of shaking Ace’s hand, he meets a thirty-year-old guy named Thomas Murray, who invites him to his office for a chat. Ace gets the flutters because Thomas quotes a Latin line from Wodehouse, showing that they’re destined to be besties. (Ace won’t be flying back to Colorado till late the next day as “There were a lot fewer flights to Denver now, for some reason.” Because NO ONE wants to go to a reeking hellhole full of liberals.) As Ace’s guard Officer Neil (the other officer had taken off for some reason, because Liberals Have No Morals) checks out the office for any means by which Ace could escape, there’s plenty of time for Dougie to poke fun at the officer for not knowing a Biblical reference that’s lobbed at him. “Bible knowledge was not a thing in Colorado.” Last time I checked, Colorado Springs is a huge hub for megachurches, but WTF do I know.

Thomas refers to C.S. Lewis’s The Abolition of Man, whose final chapter posits a dystopian near-future in which the majority is ruled by a small minority that uses the mastery of psychology to control them—hence, the Evil Liberal Overlords who are selling sex dolls and legalizing weed in Colorado. (Note:  C.S. Lewis was a Christian theologian who wrote The Chronicles of Narnia, Mere Christianity, and other works.) He recommends this book and one called A Theological History of the Troubles of 2024. He tells Ace that he’ll have to tear off the covers to sneak them into Colorado Because Censorship. (Let me pause here to point out that we Evil Liberals aren’t really big on banning books, and more into pointing out what’s wrong with them. It’s the Super-Christian Mommies with too much time on their hands who are the ones trying to get Harry Potter chucked out of the school library.)

Thomas goes on to tell Ace about what led to these Troubles—the coming together of three guys: John Henry, a charismatic Reformed Christian preacher; Tony DiAngelo, an anti-contraception Catholic (who talked about “demographic winter” and invited couples to “throw their birth control gizmos into the bonfire” at his talks—I can see the gals yanking out their IUDs and Norplants from here!), and Allen Jansen, a former Albertan oilman who was chased out of Canada to North Dakota. (The martyr complex is laid on thick here.) The oilman cut deals with the governors of conservative states to oppose the federal government and allow the construction of pipelines to the Gulf. Thomas says, “Jansen arranged for all these governments to not hassle him if he openly advertised some pretty eccentric—for that time—hiring requirements. They are all pretty standard now, though. He would give bonuses to married men who had at least three children under the age of ten, and he would give additional bonuses for his employees for staying married, and also for additional children. And the base pay was such that the wives and mothers could stay home.” Sure. OK.

But, wait! There’s more! Thomas continues, “The cherry on top was the utter collapse of Darwinism, at least in our heartland states, and in most of eastern Europe.” Ace bemoans the fact that he had to take a mandatory Darwin course in college. (Yeah, I know.  I don’t know a single person who has ever had to do this.)  He mentions “regular scientists” turning against evolution because of findings of dinosaur skeletons with soft tissue on them. (I guess everything about paleontology, carbon dating, and geology just went down the chute.) And sexual license is keeping everybody distracted from What’s Really Going On, somehow turning everyone into powerless geldings and oxen.

Thomas tells an anecdote about his grandmother, who at one time had only four of the nine kids she’d eventually have. A woman said to her, “Don’t you know what causes all this?” and Grandma replied, “Why, yes, we do. And it looks like I’m getting a lot more of it than you are.” Haw haw haw.

Thomas posits, “Sex multiplies when it is restricted….When sex is everywhere, when everything is sexualized, what happens is that actual sex starts to evaporate….When you drive through the blue states, you are confronted with it everywhere—billboards, ads on gas pumps, porn in gas stations, mandatory sex ed in all those grades, and all the pride marches. Lots and lots of talk.” Jesus Christ, Dougie.  I live in the deep blue Northeast.  I have seen damn little of all the sex ads he’s going on about. The places that don’t bother with sex education are the ones with the highest teen pregnancy rates and sexual activity, but WTF do I know. And the pride marches I’ve been do have been about as racy as a church fair.

 Ace and Thomas discuss the peculiar phenomenon found in Alabaman shopping malls: strollers everywhere, full of babies.

“After the Troubles, a number of dramatic changes occurred in our states….Porn was outlawed, and became very difficult to obtain….Once women rediscovered what they are for, it was not long after that that men rediscovered what they are for. And what they are for is protection and provision. Once the protection of women was back in place, the population exploded.” JFC. There is chat about the difference between “putting women in their place” and “allowing women to find their place,” and how blissful all the stroller-pushing mommies at the mall looked.

Thomas has a report that indicates that each of the 1.4 million sex dolls sold in the blue states has been used an average of three times, proving that “the repressed states are liberated, and getting a lot of it, and the liberated states are repressed, and hardly getting any.”

Holy shit. I’m speechless.

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Hane

@Ozlsn, there’s not so much as a hint about the concept of universal health coverage in this book—that wouldn’t fit in with the argument of Dougie’s narrative. The “liberated states”=the red states. (Yeah, this confuses the heck out of me, too.) And don’t forget, there are *no* sex dolls in the red states because porn is illegal there! For people who don’t want government all up in their business, Dougie et al are certainly cool with monitoring what goes on in people’s bedrooms.

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Ace’s speech there had been “sexual energy in culture.” His thesis was based on Chesterton: “His idea was a distinction between disciplined cultures, repressed cultures, and dissolute cultures...

So here's the deal.  Ace is a young (presumably) virginal male.  What would he know about sexual energy of any kind, except his own repressed sexuality? 

And this? This makes zero sense. 

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Ace went on to say, “But there is a third way….Disciplined cultures use sexual energy the same way a giant earth-moving machine uses hydraulic fluid.  All of it is channeled and focused—when it stays inside the system, there are very few things one of those machines can’t lift.”

I mean if you're trying to make a parallel between the power of hydraulics and sex, hydraulics don't ejaculate and that's just for starters. 

I'm gonna sit down with my tea brewed with TWO bags of Irish Breakfast, and think about other things for a bit. 

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Hane

Silly @Howl! Don’t you realize that Fundieworld is chock full of brilliant, virginal 20-year-old Men (TM) who base their entire worldview on the musings of nineteenth-century theologians and British wits of a century ago? (Honestly, Ace is definitely Dougie’s sock puppet.)

Fun thing about morality in this book: All of it has to do with sexual behavior. All that silly New Testament Jesus stuff about giving to the poor, compassion, caring for the oppressed? Fuck that noise. The “good guys” (Ace and friends) regularly lie their shirts off, both by commission and omission. There’s a LOT of bearing false witness against one’s neighbor in pursuit of his Noble Goal. There’s a considerable amount of “Say the right prayer=bang, you’re a Christian (TM)!” and “Confess your sin and bang, it never happened!”
 

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Also silly me for trying to make sense of the utterly nonsensical!  And yes, Doug Wilson seems rather sex obsessed or rather, obsessed with regulating sexuality, and especially with requiring that Christian wives put out for their husbands on demand, and I'm not making that up. 

And yes, Palouse Jesus*  has zero concern with what actual Jesus concerned himself with. 

*Doug Wilson's town of Moscow, Idaho is in the general region called The Palouse. 

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Black Aliss
2 hours ago, Howl said:

I mean if you're trying to make a parallel between the power of hydraulics and sex, hydraulics don't ejaculate and that's just for starters. 

When they do ejaculate it usually ends badly. 

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The one somewhat realistic part of this entire chapter is the bit about there being fewer flights in and out of Denver. If this plague doesn't get under control I can easily see Democratic governors of states, such as Colorado and Washington, where people are complying with CDC guidelines, restrict flights from out of state. Hawaii did this early on and it made a huge difference in infection rates.

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2 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

If this plague doesn't get under control I can easily see Democratic governors of states, such as Colorado and Washington, where people are complying with CDC guidelines, restrict flights from out of state. Hawaii did this early on and it made a huge difference in infection rates.

I've been ranting since Day 1 about the massive importance of easily available, cheap, quick and accurate testing.  A friend is considering going to Hawaii and will get a test STAT once he's there and won't have to quarantine for 14 days if he's negative. 

Me: All air travel should be contingent on a negative Covid test taken 24 hours before boarding.  

 

2 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

When they do ejaculate it usually ends badly. 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣  Catastrophic, even.  

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On 11/6/2020 at 6:00 PM, Hane said:

Ace tells Jon and Stephanie the full story of the Alabama trip. Ace’s speech there had been “sexual energy in culture.” His thesis was based on Chesterton: “His idea was a distinction between disciplined cultures, repressed cultures, and dissolute cultures. There is a tendency, Ace said, for repressed cultures and dissolute cultures to play off each other, each one reacting to the excesses of the other.” 

Ace went on to say, “But there is a third way….Disciplined cultures use sexual energy the same way a giant earth-moving machine uses hydraulic fluid.  All of it is channeled and focused—when it stays inside the system, there are very few things one of those machines can’t lift

Out of curiosity , I felt motivated to research this reference .  And I found nothing pertaining to the philosophy of Chesterton .  What I did find however was books by these two respective philosophers  { https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Sexuality  ,  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Culture }  , plus this essay https://www.huffpost.com/entry/channeling-sexual-energy-_b_3863147  .  I think that I could write something like a fractured rewrite of this novel (  https://www.slaphappylarry.com/what-is-a-fractured-fairytale/ ) , from a socialist feminist standpoint ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_feminism ) , and have it be better composed ,cans make more sense .  My core argument would be that bourgeois patriarchal society objectifies women into commodities { https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/ ,  https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/06/men-taught-to-objectify-women/ } , and so the development of sex robots is an illustrative example of how the woman in relation to the man is reduced to a mere possession , rather than respected as a whole person .  P.S. By the way , I found this comprehensive chapter by chapter review of this novel here . {  https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/09/chapter-1-review-ride-sally-ride-by-doug-wilson/  , https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-chapter-2-here-come-the-gay-lawyers/ , https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-chapter-3-lets-all-mennonite-bash/ , https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-all-about-dat-booty/ , https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-crazy-criminal-christians-causing-chaos/  ,  https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-chapter-11-benson-aint-hedging/ , https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-chapter-12-gonad-law/  ,  https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/10/ride-sally-ride-chapter-13-exploding-ankle-monitors/ }  

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@Marmion, thank you! I enjoyed Libby Anne’s takedowns of other “Christian” novels on Patheos in Love, Joy, Feminism, and didn’t know someone had done this one!

And, OMG—Suzanne Titkemeyer did “Serena’s Serenity,” too!

Should I continue, friends?

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45 minutes ago, Hane said:

@Marmion, thank you! I enjoyed Libby Anne’s takedowns of other “Christian” novels on Patheos in Love, Joy, Feminism, and didn’t know someone had done this one!

And, OMG—Suzanne Titkemeyer did “Serena’s Serenity,” too!

Should I continue, friends?

It's really up to you because I'm sure Doug is hard to read and you probably have better things to do.  As for me, however, I'm enjoying your synopses and the discussions.

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@Xan, in light of the recent election results, I think I’ll enjoy hate-massacring this book even more!

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yes, please continue! 

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Letgo
5 hours ago, Hane said:

Should I continue, friends?

Yes, please. I’m laughing out loud at this. Such poor writing. This HAS to be a self-published book. 

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13 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

When they do ejaculate it usually ends badly. 

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I have so many questions about that. Was it bleeding before it erupted? Why did the guy just keep driving it? How come no one else batted an eye at a flaming zamboni? (Which, coincidentally, would be a kick-ass band name.) 

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Ozlsn
16 hours ago, Hane said:

And don’t forget, there are *no* sex dolls in the red states because porn is illegal there!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Yeah, right. I can guarantee there is porn, sex dolls, brothels and prostitution in the red states. 

13 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

If this plague doesn't get under control I can easily see Democratic governors of states, such as Colorado and Washington, where people are complying with CDC guidelines, restrict flights from out of state.

I am still kind of amazed that there are still flights and interstate travel in the US to be honest. We have very few interstate flights, most state borders are still closed unless you have a permit, and anyone travelling from my state to other states has to undergo a 2 week mandatory quarantine despite us being on zero new cases/zero deaths for the 9th day in a row. Our first border to reopen will be from midnight when travel between metropolitan and regional Victoria will be allowed again - not only did we have inter-state border closures but intra-state as well. (And yay, I can see my parents in person again, for the first time since... June I think. Possibly May.)

11 hours ago, Howl said:

I've been ranting since Day 1 about the massive importance of easily available, cheap, quick and accurate testing. 

Hell yes. As well as mask mandates and support for people in quarantine so they're not tempted to break quarantine due to income loss. And sufficient PPE for people working in high risk facilities. Testing so that anyone with even mild symptoms can easily get a test, go home and have results in under 24 hours is essential.

6 hours ago, Hane said:

Should I continue, friends?

Totally! There can never be too many take downs.

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Katzchen24
6 hours ago, Hane said:

 

Should I continue, friends?

Unless it's going to permanently emotionally scar you in some way, please do 🙂 . Everyone sees something different in the text and your take has been very enjoyable so far.

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CaseyGrace

when I was in school my writing teacher used to always say "show, don't tell" I feel like this book might be a bit more bearable if wilson just showed us certain things instead of just telling us. Also, why did Saras dad want her to leave?  Stephanie is kind of manic pixie dream girl-ish, I think her and Asahel might end up together in the end. this book seems so poorly written and awful thank you to Hane for talking one for the team. 

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Black Aliss
10 hours ago, Lillymuffin said:

I have so many questions about that. Was it bleeding before it erupted? Why did the guy just keep driving it? How come no one else batted an eye at a flaming zamboni? (Which, coincidentally, would be a kick-ass band name.) 

Yes, that's hydraulic fluid and it looks like the hose burst shortly after he drove onto the ice and it dripped onto something hot. Not sure why he ignored the people who were waving their arms at him, or why he then drove the Z into what I assume is an enclosed area of the arena, unless there were fire extinguishers readily available there. I'd have left it sitting on the ice, myself.

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Marmion
13 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Yeah, right. I can guarantee there is porn, sex dolls, brothels and prostitution in the red states. 

  

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Red-state conservatives may insist that the rest of us should keep aspirin between our knees and be forced to bear Divine Justice Babies if we don’t. They may refuse to provide cake or flowers for gay weddings, or even to attend. They may pretend that teens won’t do it if we just don’t tell them how. They may adopt the Church Lady posture if anyone mentions sex that doesn’t involve one man, one woman, the missionary position and a pulsing desire for more offspring.

But online search traffic from behind closed doors in Jesusland suggests that the bad, nasty, sexual impulses righteous believers are trying so hard to shut down may be their own. And if Google search patterns mean anything, they’re not succeeding too well: studies consistently demonstrate that people in conservative religious states search for adult materials online far more often than people in blue states.

https://www.salon.com/2014/10/19/why_red_state_conservatives_are_the_biggest_porn_hounds_partner/    

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Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography.

A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.

“When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different,” says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.

However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

“Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says


 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers/  

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