Where in the World is Doug Phillips (Who is a Tool)? Part 12

[Howl]

1 hour ago, gracegrace said:

And I hope the bride and groom didn’t have to sit through a Dougie sermon of any kind.

Considering where the wedding took place and who they are, somebody was going to pontificate at that wedding...probably at the rehearsal dinner and reception, too.  I just hope it was over quickly. 

At a relative's wedding reception (a restaurant setting) one of the bridesmaids, who, in her work life, was a motivational speaker at her company,  got the microphone and went on and on...and on...and on some more.  She said really nice things about the bride and groom, but it did get more than a little uncomfortable when she didn't wrap it up in a timely manner. 

[MamaJunebug]

15 hours ago, AnnaSofia said:

I agree, I really like the bridesmaid dresses.

A few more pics that show them better:

Is that a Phillipsette with an ankle tattoo? .... I actually like the ankle tattoo.

2 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I wore the same color of sage as a bridesmaid in a wedding 21 years ago. The colors always come back around. 

LOL - NOT the seafoam green monstrosities that were my maids' colors, at least I hope not! Funny that the discussion has taken this swerve.  I was thinking a couple nights ago, I wish I had had the cojones to tell my girls, "Just wear something nice, tea-length if you've got it." And that I'd ripped off my little jacket at the reception.

It was 1978, in the middle of 'Merica.  Much as I loved BigMJB, it would've set her in clear target of all the criticizing aunts and uncles, and there were a dozen.  But a friend of mine did her wedding that way.  One of her gals wore a jungle/tropical plants print and the groom said, "She should carry a carved antelope head, not a bouquet!" LOL, but that marriage didn't make it, either.

 

ETA: Is that young Virginia with the groom? I'm glad for her, especially, that her sperm donor's house of cards fell before she could believe the hype that she was endlessly the adorable child.  Real world has its problems, but DPIART's world is way worse for womenchildren.

Edited September 19, 2021 by MamaJunebug

[Howl]

48 minutes ago, MamaJunebug said:

Is that a Phillipsette with an ankle tattoo? .... I actually like the ankle tattoo.

Looking closely, it may be an ankle bracelet, rather than a tattoo.

[AnnaSofia]

9 hours ago, hoipolloi said:

OMG - that IS Doug! Guess heʻs acquired a few pounds while hiding from creditors & process servers during the pandemic.

Yeah, it was from one of those snorkel/see the manatees tours. None of the photos Faith posted had Doug's face visible, but it looks like it was Honor, Faith, Doug, and Doug's sister Jennifer.

One of the last times we saw Dougie was in the pic from Honor's win at the Muay Thai competition last fall, and it looked as if he'd been hitting the gym (though it was from the VF Facebook page, so it could have been Photoshopped). When I first saw the pic of the ill-fitting wedding tux, I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he may have bulked up a bit, and then tried to squeeze into either his old tux, or an  untailored rental. After the wetsuit pic, I'm less sure.

1 hour ago, Howl said:

Considering where the wedding took place and who they are, somebody was going to pontificate at that wedding...probably at the rehearsal dinner and reception, too.  I just hope it was over quickly. 

All in all, it looked like a surprisingly "normal" wedding, from what little I've seen so far. Faith posted a couple of brief clips on her IG stories, and it looks like there was dancing and booze at the reception. I know the VF-ers were never hardline against that (like ATI), but it still looked much more fun than the VF weddings of yore.

1 hour ago, MamaJunebug said:

Is that a Phillipsette with an ankle tattoo? .... I actually like the ankle tattoo.

I agree with Howl, I think it's an ankle bracelet. Though I did spot some tats on Erin Claire (Spanky Sproul's next-to-youngest daughter).

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Is that young Virginia with the groom? I'm glad for her, especially, that her sperm donor's house of cards fell before she could believe the hype that she was endlessly the adorable child.  Real world has its problems, but DPIART's world is way worse for womenchildren.

Yup, that's Virginia. As hard as the economic shift has been for the family, I do think the kids (the girls especially) are much better off. Virginia seems like a good egg, she was too young to have had much of a choice about her designation as VF's Shirley Temple.

 

[Cults-r-us]

On 9/18/2021 at 4:45 PM, AnnaSofia said:

A few pics from Faith's IG stories:

So happy for you, Jubilee!

[MamaJunebug]

11 hours ago, AnnaSofia said:

she was too young to have had much of a choice about her designation as VF's Shirley Temple.

New post count title nom: “chooses not be VF’s Shirley Temple.”  Thank you!!!

[Howl]

I'd like to point out that in the Robust Bloom phase of Vision Forum, young ladies would never ever ever ever been have been allowed to put on a wet suit and go snorkeling. A wet suit would have been considered ridiculously immodest attire for the Young Wimminz.  Nope, literally unthinkable. 

That would have been a masculine endeavor -- the exclusive province of (presumably) virile, manly men indulging in a manly pursuit, followed by a celebratory cigar and whiskey while they recounted the highlights of their daring do. 

Good grief, what an insane crock of s**t that was, all of it. 

 

[danvillebelle]

Jubilee's dress and those lovely bridesmaid's dresses would also have been deemed terribly immodest.  An illusion neckline!  Legs and ankles bared to the world! 

[Hane]

On 9/18/2021 at 5:07 PM, Bluebirdbluebell said:

When the veil covers the whole head like that, it seems fundie to me. 

Her dress is gorgeous. 

Not fundie—just old-fashioned. Going down the aisle with the bride’s veil covering her face used to be pretty common.

[hoipolloi]

Could Jubileeʻs veil be an heirloom? In which case, one would wear it as is since itʻs from an earlier day when brides wore such things.

I agree that her & the attendantsʻ dresses are lovely and flattering to all -- good that the once-ubiquitous modesty panels have gone the way of the west wind!

[hoipolloi]

From the public IG of a Phillips relative:

[danvillebelle]

I say again - he looks BAD.  If I didn't know that was him in that photo, I would never have guessed.

[Bluebirdbluebell]

13 hours ago, Hane said:

Not fundie—just old-fashioned. Going down the aisle with the bride’s veil covering her face used to be pretty common.

Old-fashioned and fundie go together hand-in-hand. I looked up the meaning of the veil covering the face. Sites connected to the wedding industry try to downplay the significance, but admit the veil is a symbol "of purity".  A few other sites agree veils symbolize "modesty, chastity, and obedience" which are all fundie virtues. 

Wearing the veil over the face obsecures identity, which was popular in antiquity for arranged marriages.  Wikipedia has some very creepy interpretations of the veil in the wedding section of the article on veils. 

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[JermajestyDuggar]

22 hours ago, danvillebelle said:

I say again - he looks BAD.  If I didn't know that was him in that photo, I would never have guessed.

I think he’s aged a lot since the downfall. It’s been 8 years right? It’s like the extreme aging presidents go through after an 8 year term. But he wasn’t president. Just a washed up dbag.

[Howl]

1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I think he’s aged a lot since the downfall. It’s been 8 years right? It’s like the extreme aging presidents go through after an 8 year term. But he wasn’t president. Just a washed up dbag.

Part of the aging process in his early 50s.  But going from ultra buff to a big spare tire is more than a little concerning. 

[danvillebelle]

It's his eyes that look weird to me in that photo. Either he was crying a lot, or he's had (bad) work done.

[MamaJunebug]

On 9/20/2021 at 9:15 AM, Hane said:

Not fundie—just old-fashioned. Going down the aisle with the bride’s veil covering her face used to be pretty common.

Yep.  I did, back in the late 1970’s.

3 hours ago, danvillebelle said:

It's his eyes that look weird to me in that photo. Either he was crying a lot, or he's had (bad) work done.

I’ll go with “crying a lot.”  Having recently completed a bunch of research about blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery), I’ll bet $10 I don’t have that he hasn’t had any work  

I’ll bet another $10 that he needs some dental work  As in, he’s missing an upper molar or two or three   Again, source: Personal experience!  

Receding hairline is a sure thing.

If he’s packed on the pounds? Oh. Well. There’s only so much empathy within my shell and it’s reserved for people in situations far more dire than Doug Phillips* having over-eaten and under-exercised.

* That's distinctly and especially for Doug Phillips and not for any other gentle reader out there. 

[danvillebelle]

7 hours ago, MamaJunebug said:

I’ll go with “crying a lot.”

If so, I hope he was crying because this occasion made him realize how badly he's screwed over his kids with his shenanigans, particularly over the last 8 years.

[Columbia]

1 hour ago, danvillebelle said:

If so, I hope he was crying because this occasion made him realize how badly he's screwed over his kids with his shenanigans, particularly over the last 8 years.

I have such a hard time imagining him crying over anything other than his lost kingdom. 

[DomWackTroll]

On 9/21/2021 at 7:09 PM, danvillebelle said:

Either he was crying a lot

Excuse me, but the correct phrase is "shedding manly tears". 💪

[VVV]

On 9/20/2021 at 9:15 AM, Hane said:

Not fundie—just old-fashioned. Going down the aisle with the bride’s veil covering her face used to be pretty common.

Yup. I had a blusher veil at my wedding in 1989. It was perhaps less ubiquitous by then but still not unheard of. And I was never fundie. 

[DonutWench]

19 hours ago, VVV said:

Yup. I had a blusher veil at my wedding in 1989. It was perhaps less ubiquitous by then but still not unheard of. And I was never fundie. 

I always thought that too—that it was more of a vintage thing—but I do think, historically accurate or not, that it does carry certain connotations in the fundie-verse. I will never forget the worlds most cringey words from my fundie ex-father-in-law. I was 19, engaged (I know 💀) and a captive-audience with my ex-husband in his parents' van when we were driving somewhere:

Fundil ex-FIL: "Do you know when the bride wears a veil over her eyes at her wedding it means she's a virgin?"

Me: [some variation of silence/whhhhhaaaaaaahhhh/um . . . ?]

Him: "Will you be wearing a veil over your eyes at your wedding?"

Me: [just wanting to jump out of the moving vehicle right about then] "of course . . ."

I wish I'd been self-actualized enough back then to shut him down, but I was not. For the record, I'm pretty sure I didn't wear a blusher veil, though

[Mrs Ms]

1 hour ago, DonutWench said:

I always thought that too—that it was more of a vintage thing—but I do think, historically accurate or not, that it does carry certain connotations in the fundie-verse. I will never forget the worlds most cringey words from my fundie ex-father-in-law. I was 19, engaged (I know 💀) and a captive-audience with my ex-husband in his parents' van when we were driving somewhere:

Fundil ex-FIL: "Do you know when the bride wears a veil over her eyes at her wedding it means she's a virgin?"

Me: [some variation of silence/whhhhhaaaaaaahhhh/um . . . ?]

Him: "Will you be wearing a veil over your eyes at your wedding?"

Me: [just wanting to jump out of the moving vehicle right about then] "of course . . ."

I wish I'd been self-actualized enough back then to shut him down, but I was not. For the record, I'm pretty sure I didn't wear a blusher veil, though

I wonder why he is the ex-FIL. What a manipulative, intrusive thing to ask someone. I personally despise veils. Having to change my plans of my wedding outfit so my FIL doesn’t think I am an evil slut would have hurt a lot! Hugs to 19 year old version of you!!

[Hane]

I had a blusher veil in 1973 (but not when I was an Evil Used Bride at my second wedding—I went for a Juliet cap for that one) and so did my daughter in 2005. It had nothing to do with “virginity”; it was just a kind of traditional ceremonial thing.

Re traditions: My dad walked me down the aisle at both my weddings, because I’d rather have thrown myself in front of a bus than hurt his feelings. I did insist, though, that my wedding announcements read “escorted to the altar by her father” instead of “given in marriage.”* When I was a toddler, I told my mother that I was going to marry Daddy, and she said, “You can’t marry him—when you get married, he’ll give you away!” and I *lost it*! The very idea of my father giving me away as if I were a used vacuum cleaner or something!   I decided I’d marry my cousin, who lived upstairs, instead. (Spoiler alert: I didn’t.)

*We used the same “escorted to the altar” wording in my daughter’s wedding announcement, when my dad walked her down the aisle, as her father had passed away several years prior.

[Bluebirdbluebell]

That green color is hot right now. On the unmarried fundies, we've talking about a couple who recently got married (Brianna Gimenez and AJ Blankensop) and the bridemaids dresses were the same color. They also had short sleeves, but no slits up the dress.