Mills Family 7: Oh, Look, Another Reason to Detest Tom

[Maggie Mae]

13 hours ago, Ekaterina said:

This foolish widowed Dad of nine kids, keeps rattling on about his lack of time to do anything (like cooking dinner).  Is it so hard to throw ingredients into the slow cooker for an all-day simmer? He has money so how about take out once in a while to be delivered? 

I don't think there is takeout in their area. He can't be that busy though, with the pandemic taking away business from everyone. And how many people in a town of 1000 actually need new computers and computer repair? Unless he has some sort of contract with the schools, there's not a ton of business for his shop. 

 

13 hours ago, Ekaterina said:

The kids need new clothes and Daddy hasn’t found the time to shop for them. He’s dreading it.  He could take a leaf out of Andrea’s book and write a list of what’s needed. 

Or he could take a couple of kids out to buy clothes that they need. This serves several purposes - the kids get experience being in public and learning how to act in public, they get to pick out something they like in person instead of being given cheap walmart "clothes" that were hastily thrown in a cart in the middle of the night, and additional bonding time with their dad who should NOT livestream it, and instead spend the time talking with his children. 

I worked retail and I've seen plenty of parents ask their 2 year olds if they like something and then listen. Kids have preferences. 

[MangoTango]

16 hours ago, Ekaterina said:

Nine months today since Andrea passed.  He says he’s ready for a new wife and the kids need a Mommy.  Where is he going to meet a suitable woman?  It looks like YT is the best dating site, given the low population of Moorcroft and his inability to socialise anywhere except for Magic Night and shopping trips.  But ya’ never know. 

Lol, what he really means is that HE needs a mommy (in more ways than one). 

Part of me wonders if Andrea was abused as a child/young woman and that's why she married Tom (the first man who she dated). She was homeschooled herself, which means her dating pool wasn't that wide. Her stepdad is also a register sex offender, which is a red flag.  I'm not going to speculate any further, but I have my suspicions about a few aspects of her way of living/way of thinking. 

 

[Sloth]

49 minutes ago, MangoTango said:

Lol, what he really means is that HE needs a mommy (in more ways than one). 

Part of me wonders if Andrea was abused as a child/young woman and that's why she married Tom (the first man who she dated). She was homeschooled herself, which means her dating pool wasn't that wide. Her stepdad is also a register sex offender, which is a red flag.  I'm not going to speculate any further, but I have my suspicions about a few aspects of her way of living/way of thinking. 

 

She was, she spoke about in either a comment or a video, I don't remember which, iirc, her abuser went to prison but she never said who he was in relation to her.

Edited May 20, 2020 by Sloth

[Ekaterina]

42 minutes ago, Sloth said:

She was, she spoke about in either a comment or a video, I don't remember which, iirc, her abuser went to prison but she never said who he was in relation to her.

We can rule out her biological father because didn’t she say that she only met him on one occasion.  Papa Gary? The family have a good relationship with him so his criminal activity must not have been on his own doorstep?? 
 

The GFM still being touted and with the same wording is really getting to me. Reporting it for being misleading and for him being an opportunist fraud hasn’t resulted in any action to address the matter - yet!  
 

Today I watched and read about the terrible effects the pandemic has had on families who are financially strapped and in danger of losing their homes.  Jobs have been lost.  People are in crises both due to social isolation and the very real fears they have for family and friends.

There are those who have tragically lost their life to Covid 19 and their loved ones are reeling from the shock.  Money has to be found to take care of funeral arrangements.  Many people have no life insurance policy, scamaritan insurance, GFM, YT channel bringing in a monthly check, paid for credit at grocery stores or gifts and cash cascading to their doorstep.  Tommo has all this and more!  What a complete disgrace he is! 
 

YES to those saying that Hannah is now his “number one prop”.  That little girl is being brought up by Asher with Daddy getting social time when all the hard work has been done.

Who is taking care of laundry, cleaning that hovel, bed making, scrubbing counters and that nasty table, washing up, getting breakfast and lunch for the littles, etc etc?  You can be certain that it isn’t him.  The boys will be doing what they can and delegating the smaller jobs.

It remains feasible that some of his “fanatics” will head Wyoming Way this Summer.  
A “meet and greet” as he once alluded to.  There could be claws drawn and fangs bared as they snarl and try to outdo each other in order to gain the attention and approval of Mr.Wonderful!  Now that video, if it ever happens, is likely to go viral and net Tommo a lot more undeserved financial gain!    ?

[Ekaterina]

He’s doing a livestream and is breathtakingly stupid and arrogant.  A few people disagreed. He is deleting comments from those he calls “trolls”.  I’m disappointed to see two FB ‘friends’ commenting.  They are going to need to go!  I just cannot with that vile, self centred, ignorant pig! 

[Grandma D]

6 hours ago, Ekaterina said:

He’s doing a livestream and is breathtakingly stupid and arrogant.  A few people disagreed. He is deleting comments from those he calls “trolls”.  I’m disappointed to see two FB ‘friends’ commenting.  They are going to need to go!  I just cannot with that vile, self centred, ignorant pig! 

The live chat is not visible on the replay. Maybe too much disagreement. I can't stand watching someone swing. Zuzu does it. Those chimes and wind! Ugh. Two hours worth is too much! He could get so much done in that time.

[dizzy]

Caught some of last night's live and I cannot believe the idiocy of a man whose wife died of cancer because she refused to trust health professionals talking about how people don't really need to go to the doctor because doctors just want your money. It was in the midst of a rant about how society relies too much on experts. 

It's funny trying to watch him be diplomatic, too. He basically just kept saying "But doctors do good work" as a disclaimer even though it directly contradicted everything else he was saying. And then he'd accuse people of just not understanding his point when they'd tell him he's contradicting himself. 

[Olivia Marie]

Everything Tom says and does is so bizarre to me.   I cannot wrap my mind around his thought process, his mindset.   He is a social misfit.   Someone pointed out to me a particular segment of his video from last night.  Somewhere around 25:38.  He talks about riding his bike, desiring  to be the first person to touch trees/flowers.    Playing a game of finding trash/clothing  along side the road.   I cannot stand listening to him, or watching his cocky mannerisms.   His behavior is so completely bizarre, odd, peculiar.     He adores talking about himself, listening to himself, and the undivided attention and worship of women who are similarly very strange.  

Edited May 20, 2020 by Olivia Marie

[can'tstopwatching]

What an ignorant, dangerous, and hate-filled video to share for the commemoration of 9 months since your wife's passing. But I supposed that's exactly what Andrea would've wanted, isn't it.

[Olivia Marie]

30 minutes ago, Olivia Marie said:

Everything Tom says and does is so bizarre to me.   I cannot wrap my mind around his thought process, his mindset.   He is a social misfit.   Someone pointed out to me a particular segment of his video from last night.  Somewhere around 25:38.   I have no words.  He talks about riding his bike, desiring  to be the first person to touch trees/flowers.    Playing a game of finding trash/clothing  along side the road.   I cannot stand watching/listening  to him.  His behavior is so completely bizarre, odd, peculiar.     He adores talking about himself, listening to himself, and the undivided attention and worship of women who are similarly very strange.  

I apologize.  I did not intend to quote myself.  

Edited May 20, 2020 by Olivia Marie

[All About the Shekels]

The bicycle he is using for his rides, is it brand new? Did he just purchase it recently?

[Maggie Mae]

He thinks wind is caused by hot and cold.  This is a weird juxtaposition to later in the video when he goes on and on and on about "tyranny of the experts" and how he doesn't want to give up control. Isn't that a big part of being an evangelical jesus person? They always go on and on and on about trusting in God/Jesus. 

He doesn't like chili. So weird. (Maybe he just didn't like Andrea's chili?) Sometimes I wonder how/where he grew up, there was a video of him eating his first steak at a restaurant. Was he sheltered until he was married as well? 

I wonder what the people were saying that Tom is saying to ignore. 

[Mom2Bubby]

Wow. This guy is such a know it all. Some of the things he said in the latest late night live (on the porch swing) made me laugh out loud. He really doesn’t know how stupid he is does he? God help those kids. I hope they can become all they are meant to be in spite of their idiot father. What a jack wagon. 

[Itsjustme]

6 hours ago, Olivia Marie said:

His behavior is so completely bizarre, odd, peculiar.     He adores talking about himself, listening to himself, and the undivided attention and worship of women who are similarly very strange.  

Well any man in his 40's who would have a favorite temperature is certainly odd. It's 53 in case anyone cares, even the number is odd. 

 

Has anyone seen his latest facebook post???? He's really laying it on thick. He posted a pic of an angel figurine that Andrea really loved. It was an angel holding up a baby with arms outstretched. Well he says he was going through some things and came across it and broke it. So he shows a pic of the broken figure and it had broken off right at the shoulders so the arms holding the baby was separated from the angel. In the post he wrote "I've been dragging my feet becasue of the way it broke, makes me so sad"

Oh wow, people are dying every day from a virus but the world should stop and give Tom sympathy becasue he wasn't careful with something he "cherished" and he's sad. Life is sad sometimes, you are in your 40's, grow up and stopo being so doomy gloomy, your kids grief should be what's important at this point, stop feeling sorry for yourself.

I swear this guy is like a little baby that needs to be coddled and comforted.  Time to stop using your wife's death as a crutch to get sympathy and money. Your christian values don't include playing on peoples sympathy in order to gain money. It's dishonest to manipulate and play with people's emotions.

I've watched earlier videos when they went shopping, they spent a lot of money, so they weren't desolate , and I can remember Tom saying he made enough to take care of things. Only now he says becasue Andrea is gone she is the one who used to save them so much money. Well, he can learn to save money too and budget just like anyone else. What a mooch.

[moreorlessnu]

I was shocked to see that someone taped a bag of latex balloons to one of Hannah's gifts. I was even more shocked to find out it was Grandma Kitty, the former school teacher. Shouldn't she know better? Children have choked on latex balloons.

[Ekaterina]

45 minutes ago, moreorlessnu said:

I was shocked to see that someone taped a bag of latex balloons to one of Hannah's gifts. I was even more shocked to find out it was Grandma Kitty, the former school teacher. Shouldn't she know better? Children have choked on latex balloons.

One would hope she knows better but hey, she’s the Momma of Tommo so maybe she’s also someone who ignores the “experts”.  I’d be ashamed to have him as my son. 

That livestream absolutely brought out everything I loathe about that opinionated, blinkered, contradictory, grasping, moronic POS!  

The “trolls” as he calls them consisted of one astute person commenting on his arrogance and there was someone with a Red Devil ? Avatar who made off-hand remarks about religion.  
 

Rachel Daydream and MAMfantasy had their panties in knots with excitement that the chat had been invaded and told Chad (who is he?) he had missed the fun.  There are  comments from Colaw or Colslaw who seems to be a friend of his too (he commented on Anne Parkes video supporting Tommo).   Tommo was constantly holding forth saying that people shouldn’t rely on experts, doctors etc but tried hard to backtrack and said that even pastors shouldn’t be relied on for a weekly one hour preaching session. I guess he considers himself a preacher as opposed to actually being an asshole!

Tommy boy is on his bike again.  Chatting away to the minions.  What wouldn’t I give to see him hurtle over the front wheel to land face down in a ditch!   

[Smitty]

He tried to quietly pawn off the thought in one video that he had the bike a couple of years.  Doubtful, otherwise his kiddos would surely have used it or Andrea would have mentioned at some point.  He’s spending money on technology upgrades and other purchases to enhance his YouTube ventures period.  Can’t figure out what the kids need, but on it when it comes to his own wants.  When did he last sit down with a few new books and read with the young ones - they crave that.  But no, gotta shoo them off to bed in favor of a two or three hour virtual  visit multiple times a week with his girlfriends.  

Probably holds off the older ones by reminding them he is earning Youtube cash and mama hunting for their own good.  Wonder if they ever wonder just why their mom had to die.  They are old enough to think about all the signs they witnessed for months telling them that she was desperately ill.  I think Judah gets it and has insisted on doctor and dentist visits for himself.  Daddy isn’t half as clever as he believes.  

 

[All About the Shekels]

8 minutes ago, Smitty said:

He tried to quietly pawn off the thought in one video that he had the bike a couple of years.  Doubtful, otherwise his kiddos would surely have used it or Andrea would have mentioned at some point.  

 

I was wondering when he got it. I was trying tally in my head the new purchases for him and the children really nothing.

He got Tommy Hilfiger coat(I believe he bought it for himself although he denies that), bike??, air fryer, purple mattress with sheets, pillowcases, camera. The brown recliner that was purchased for the wife to come home to with hospice was bought by her family. I wonder if he ever tried to reimburse them or return it for a refund? He parks his caboose in the brown throne and holds court for his lunatic, rabid subjects just like he is the greatest thing ever.

I guess he didn’t make appts for all the children at the dentist after it was revealed how bad Judah’s teeth were? 
 

How much me time does he need? Hey blockhead, get off the swing and off the bike unless you take the children for some shorter rides. Engage with your children!

[Ekaterina]

52 minutes ago, All About the Shekels said:

I was wondering when he got it. I was trying tally in my head the new purchases for him and the children really nothing.

He got Tommy Hilfiger coat(I believe he bought it for himself although he denies that), bike??, air fryer, purple mattress with sheets, pillowcases, camera. The brown recliner that was purchased for the wife to come home to with hospice was bought by her family. I wonder if he ever tried to reimburse them or return it for a refund? He parks his caboose in the brown throne and holds court for his lunatic, rabid subjects just like he is the greatest thing ever.

I guess he didn’t make appts for all the children at the dentist after it was revealed how bad Judah’s teeth were? 
 

How much me time does he need? Hey blockhead, get off the swing and off the bike unless you take the children for some shorter rides. Engage with your children!

Well, the LOONEY is holding court again now with his Bible Study.  Yet he said that people shouldn’t rely on weekly Pastor Preachings!  
 

For a man who has no time, he certainly knows how to spend it. 

For a man who has no money, he certainly knows how to spend that also.  
 

Did he have a shower after a day’s work, his ten mile bike ride and before he went to his Pulpit?  He looks dirty and greasy.  Even more grimy than usual and how those little kids can tolerate the BO and Foot Fungus Delivery Fumes is amazing!!

[Maggie Mae]

1 hour ago, All About the Shekels said:

He got Tommy Hilfiger coat(I believe he bought it for himself although he denies that), bike??, air fryer, purple mattress with sheets, pillowcases, camera.

TBF, they sell Tommy Hifliger at Costco, it's not exactly a luxury brand these days.  The air fryer, the mattress, and camera are all ridiculous, though. Andrea gave him a literal allowance because (she claimed) that Tom felt bad about "taking from the family" but I'm starting to think there was more to it than what she claimed. Like, maybe he wanted things and she said no, but she always bought what she wanted? I still think Andrea was way more arrogant and awful than Tom, but Tom is really getting on my nerves with the constant livestreaming - it's so lazy. He even had a list a things he "should do" or "needs to do" and his daughters are asking for stories and his attention and he's too busy crying on YouTube to spend time with them. 

1 hour ago, All About the Shekels said:

I guess he didn’t make appts for all the children at the dentist after it was revealed how bad Judah’s teeth were? 

This annoys me a lot. 

1 hour ago, All About the Shekels said:

How much me time does he need? Hey blockhead, get off the swing and off the bike unless you take the children for some shorter rides. Engage with your children!

Right? He really needs to disconnect from the internet and focus on his kids. I think it's healthy for adults to take bike rides and work out on their own, but they also need to be able to do family rides and introduce this stuff to their kids. If they are too little or too slow, that's why you take them on the Saturday afternoon ride, but you do your long ride at like 6 am.  He's selfish. I'd recommend that he start by taking a week - just one week - and not touch YouTube. See how that goes. 

If I were in Tom's position (which I wouldn't be), I would first get all the kids on real insurance. I would make sure all the bills are paid, the house paid off. Then the rest of the GFM money would be used on a down-payment on a house in a bigger town, and the current property either sold or remodeled into a rental. From there, I'd put the kids into school and take them to doctors and dentists. There would be a headstone for Andrea. I make sure each kid had a savings account (Andrea claimed to this but she also said it was all in one account and she tracked how much each kid had with a spreadsheet. Andrea was an idiot and probably stole from it when she ran out of money because had no concept of how to budget.

In my world, each kid would get their own account, in their name, and it would be signed over to them when they turn 18. If there was money left from the GFM, it would be split up between those kids, so they could go to college, or put a down payment down on a house, or buy a car, or whatever they needed. Or they could make a mistake and spend it all on drugs, it's their money and their choice.  It's just so sad to me that everything in their lives is so controlled. Their parents kept them from a proper education, exploited them on YouTube, gave them nothing, forced them to wear ugly matching clothing, fed them junk food, and don't even seem to know them. Why have kids if you are going to mistreat them like this? 

 

[WhaddaIKnow]

For me, it’s hard to believe with all those children, none need glasses. They ALL have perfect vision? 
they OBVIOUSLY have dental needs...it can’t just be one. 
how is withholding medical care not a DFCS issue? 
I don’t understand. 

[Ekaterina]

2 hours ago, WhaddaIKnow said:

For me, it’s hard to believe with all those children, none need glasses. They ALL have perfect vision? 
they OBVIOUSLY have dental needs...it can’t just be one. 
how is withholding medical care not a DFCS issue? 
I don’t understand. 

I wondered about their vision.  Did Andrea, MD test the kids eyesight as assiduously as she checked their teeth for cavities?  I think that Asher also visited the dentist for a filling.  With their poor diet and hygiene it’s probable that all the kids need to at least visit the dentist and have their teeth cleaned.  
 

MAGGIE MAY I agree with you also.  Tommy boy did the sensible thing and paid off the mortgage. I guess Andrea’s life insurance policy came in handy.  They are completely debt free and the only outgoings are for food, utilities and transport.  

I don’t understand why his minions can’t see that this greedy, selfish man is in a far better position financially than he has ever enjoyed. 

Scamaritan paid all the medical fees.  Andrea’s life insurance and the GFM, together with the store accounts with over 3k were windfalls to Tommo. 
 

He wasted no time monetising the channel, which I think was the right thing to do btw. 
The gift cards, cash, numerous parcels of food, clothes, toys continue despite him claiming they have no need of anything. A claim he goes on to contradict when moaning about buying clothes or non essentials that he feels are essential.  The patreon account will doubtless be organised at some later date.

All of those Afghan rugs that went by mistake to Grandma Fern ..were they donated by Cindy the Crocheter? She has a video from January in which she states her “charity” work for the Mills will be crocheting bears in all the kids colors, buying frisbees for the boys and any other stuff she can think of going forward.  She slipped out the word “charity”, saying she doesn’t want to call it charity.  These people are genuinely nuts! 
 

Every single birthday will see a deluge of Amazon boxes to the Mills homestead.  As will every Christmas.  Certainly that’s people’s prerogative.  But that man should now be humbly thanking everyone for their kindness and taking that GFM down.  

If people have money to donate, donate to a family who may be on the breadline or where the breadwinner no longer has a job. Donate for medical bills where there is no life insurance.  Donating 100$, 500$ to Tommo is obscene in the extreme.

EDITED to add that Tommo was talking about getting new phones for the boys. Did he?  He has undoubtedly been spending on technology.  Then there is ALEXA in every room of the house, vying for attention with the 24/7 biblical broadcasting.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Ekaterina

[Ozlsn]

On 5/18/2020 at 10:06 PM, can'tstopwatching said:

Claudia never got to be the beloved youngest like Hannah is so treasured as now.

You know I never thought I would say this but at least JRod pampered her youngest (before they were replaced by the next one). They all had a period of being "nursing baby/Mom's favourite", no matter how brief. 

It makes me so sad that Andrea and Tom's hang ups have affected their children so completely, particularly Claudia. Every child in that family is going to end up with a very different perception of their childhood I think. 

[Petronella]

48 minutes ago, Ekaterina said:

He wasted no time monetising the channel, which I think was the right thing to do btw. 

I think it was an awful thing to do. I think filming the children’s supposed-to-be private lives for public consumption is awful, monetized or not. But the monetizing makes the whole family dependent on continuing to do it. The pressure on the kids and the inherent conflict of interest in Tom makes monetization a TERRIBLE idea.

Monetize his ridiculous, smug Bible studies and bike rides, sure. But not the kids’ personal lives. (And we all know that without the kids, and his identity as “poor widowed dad of many,” no one would care about the Bible studies or bike rides.)

I honestly don’t understand why he doesn’t WANT the kids in school. He would get hours to himself five days a week! You’d think he’d want that. But, well, you’d think he’d want to live in a clean house but here we are...

[ignorantobserver]

I have a shocking revelation for Tom : 53 °F equals... 11,6667 °C ! I hope he reconsiders his choice of a favorite temperature. Might send the wrong signal.