Lori Alexander 76: Ken Advises Saving?

[Hane]

My best guess: Lori’s red pill/MGTOW fan base is telling her social justice is Bad, so she’s glomming onto this stance, even though fanbois like Stefan Molyneaux aren’t even Christian.

[fluffy]

2 hours ago, Loveday said:

ut then they're expected to homeschool all 20 of their kids when the time comes. Sure, Lori.

Her response was essentially that homeschooling is so easy that is requires no education. To make a good citizen they just need basic reading and math. Not sure if becoming an orthodontist or orthodontist consultant needs additional education. She didn't address those career goals. 

Lori also bragged that she learned nothing in high school, college, or grad school, which is why she thinks a sixth grade education is sufficient. I recall in the past she wrote fondly about never having homework. Meet your Always Learning thought leader! 

Edited June 5, 2020 by fluffy

[Loveday]

I wonder if she ever reads a novel. Even a Christian version of a Harlequin romance, or an Amish romance. Did none of the novels she had to read in high school ever strike a spark with her, make her want to read more? Her high school reading list was probably identical to mine: Animal Farm, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Red Pony, Edith Hamilton's Mythology, Our Town, at least one of the Brontes... Surely she would have enjoyed at least ONE book? ONE short story? ONE play? I loved them all (well, except for The Great Gatsby. Ugh.) Does she even own any books besides the Bible and whatever books her very few approved preachers have written? Oh, and her beloved 'commentators of old?'

Her mind must be a vast, dusty wasteland. 

[WineGlass]

23 minutes ago, Loveday said:

Her mind must be a vast, dusty wasteland. 

A tiny, tiny, very tiny, dusty wasteland.

[Loveday]

1 minute ago, WineGlass said:

A tiny, tiny, very tiny, dusty wasteland.

I stand corrected. 

[fluffy]

She disavowed reading any kind of romance and thinks it akin to pornography. Women shouldn't have expectations, don't you know. She says she only likes reading books on how to be a submissive wife (Laugh of the century). One of her videos featured her getting rid of books for the sake of clearing the clutter. Too late, her brain's already cluttered beyond belief. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by fluffy

[Loveday]

21 minutes ago, fluffy said:

She disavowed reading any kind of romance and sees it as akin to pornography. Women shouldn't have expectations, don't you know. She says she only likes reading books on how to be a submissive wife (Laugh of the century). One of her videos featured her getting rid of books for the sake of clearing the clutter. Too late, her brain's already cluttered beyond belief. 

I must have missed the book-clearing video. She would think I'm an extreme hoarder if she saw all my books. What the hell do she and Ken talk about on those 40 minute walks of theirs? I wonder if he ever reads anything. I can't imagine two more boring conversationalists.

 

[WineGlass]

This kind of opinion speaks absolutely volumes about the state of her relationship with Ken. It would be so sad, if it weren't Lori.

2 hours ago, fluffy said:

She disavowed reading any kind of romance and thinks it akin to pornography. Women shouldn't have expectations, don't you know. 

(I don't mean your opinion, fluffy, I mean that it's her opinion!

Edited June 5, 2020 by WineGlass

[SongRed7]

Lori on Twitter:   "Because Christians are promised persecution, are we supposed to begin a movement and fight for our rights? Is there anywhere in the Bible that commands that we do this? NO! God fights for us. He is our defender."

Also Lori on Twitter:  "BUT I have no problems with Christians owning guns to defend themselves. Many Christians all over the world are being persecuted and dying for their faith, however"

 

Honestly, I'm surprised she doesn't have whiplash. 

[Alisamer]

14 hours ago, fluffy said:

Her response was essentially that homeschooling is so easy that is requires no education. To make a good citizen they just need basic reading and math. Not sure if becoming an orthodontist or orthodontist consultant needs additional education. She didn't address those career goals. 

Lori also bragged that she learned nothing in high school, college, or grad school, which is why she thinks a sixth grade education is sufficient. I recall in the past she wrote fondly about never having homework. Meet your Always Learning thought leader! 

Even the Amish go through 8th grade, don't they?

She's ridiculous. Only a 6th grade education, then homeschool your sons, who are then expected to be able to support a wife and a ton of children. Sure, Lori.

She just enjoys seeing people suffer. She knows full well that will result in a chain of crushing poverty.

13 hours ago, Loveday said:

Does she even own any books besides the Bible and whatever books her very few approved preachers have written? Oh, and her beloved 'commentators of old?'

Her mind must be a vast, dusty wasteland. 

She doesn't even read the Bible. Just small parts of it.

Her mind is a nasty garbage dump. 

12 hours ago, Loveday said:

What the hell do she and Ken talk about on those 40 minute walks of theirs?

What the joggers around them are wearing, how ungodly they are, and gossip gossip gossip. Maybe they take turns. One day Ken gets to preach on and on, and the next day Lori gets to whine and bitch about whatever is annoying her. 

[PinkPrincess0213]

I can't. I just can't.

No Lori, segregation did NOT ALLOW them to flourish.

That education you seemed determined to not get is certainly showing now.

(Yes, I know Lori says this was a conversation on her page, but clearly she endorses it or she wouldn't have written a whole blog about it)

 

[Sarah92]

Lori is a racist.  That’s it that’s all I have to say. 

[Hane]

Yeah, Lori: There *were* thriving black communities in parts of the US—until certain white individuals and organizations decided these communities were TOO successful. See Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921.

[kpmom]

Black people flourished under segregation??  Jim Crow laws were created as Black Codes?  What does that even mean??

And I suppose next we'll hear why slavery was a good thing.

[wallysmommy]

What is her source for "realearning history."  The KKK manual?

[Sarah92]

22 minutes ago, kpmom said:

Black people flourished under segregation??  Jim Crow laws were created as Black Codes?  What does that even mean??

And I suppose next we'll hear why slavery was a good thing.

No joke some people argue that slavery “wasn’t that bad” because they might have “had it better than they might have in Africa” and at least “they were seen as valuable so slave owners would be dumb to kill them”. Other things I’ve heard “slavery let them learn about God and Christianity” and “without being brought to America as slaves their ancestors might not enjoy their life in America now”. 

[crawfishgirl]

Just when I think she's hit a new low, it gets worse.  Sigh.  But on the flip side, she might lose some followers after this.  And the remaining ones will already be on the extreme fringes of society.  If she 'goes viral again', this can easily be used to discredit her.

[Seahorse Wrangler]

23 hours ago, Loveday said:

I must have missed the book-clearing video. She would think I'm an extreme hoarder if she saw all my books. What the hell do she and Ken talk about on those 40 minute walks of theirs? I wonder if he ever reads anything. I can't imagine two more boring conversationalists.

 

Looks at the multiple bookcases, pushes aside the 4 tablets each of which has a separate designation for downloading...I don't have a reading problem..

[Seahorse Wrangler]

On 6/3/2020 at 2:15 PM, PinkPrincess0213 said:

Why oh why does she play this game? Half of what she does isn't there.

Besides, some argue that Jesus was involved in social justice by caring for "the least of these".

 

Lori..oh honey.

 

Your beloved saviour( Jesus) fed the 5000. He healed countless people. He fucking braided whips to scourge the money changers in His Father's house.

If He was in America today, he'd be healing the tear-gased and rubber-bulleted. He'd be feeding the protesters. And most importantly...He'd be using the whips He braided to smash any-one who got in His way.

[crawfishgirl]

I noticed this comment that Lori wrote in the comment section of the Teaching your Children to not be Racists blog post on her site:

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God never condones slavery. You will never find one verse that states this. He knew it would exist so He commands those who have slaves to treat them justly and with kindness.

She is excusing slavery here.  Disgusting.  Much of the bible is just historical, but she uses it as an excuse for her current belief system.  If slavery was legal, I can imagine her owning slaves and using the bible to justify her actions.  She is truly vile.

[louisa05]

12 hours ago, kpmom said:

Black people flourished under segregation??  Jim Crow laws were created as Black Codes?  What does that even mean??

And I suppose next we'll hear why slavery was a good thing.

In 2006, I was selected for a program for history teachers at Monticello/University of Virginia. A week, all expenses paid, with Jefferson scholars and professors from UVA and William and Mary. 
We studied slavery in the context of Jefferson’s time extensively both in the materials sent to us prior and the lectures and events over that week. On the last day, we had a final q & a with a panel of the presenters over a beautiful lunch in the original main building at UVA. A lovely teacher in our group, a woman in her 50s, raised her hand and said this, in the sweetest Southern drawl (and I’m barely paraphrasing as I was so shocked it has stayed with me): 

“What gets forgotten was that for so many of the people, slavery was a good thing. The owners took care of them and loved them like family and everyone was happy.”  
 

The expert on slavery who had developed exhibits and education on slavery at Monticello eviscerated her.  He told her that her view was the result of bad education and cultural bias. He told her that the majority of children born to slaves were sold away from their mothers by their third birthday and asked if she would have been happy having her children taken away. And he told her to learn the truth as it had been presented all week or quit teaching. 
 

Point: the “slavery was good” myth is out there for Lori to find it. 

[wallysmommy]

Welp, I pissed off my Lori-ite cousin good this morning.  I made a passive-aggressive remark to another cousin about Lori's stand on not eduating girls and I said ask "XXX because she's big friends with her and moderates her super secret chat room."  XXX blasted me that I knew nothing about her, she's only shared some of Lori's posts, and she isn't big friends with her and doesn't moderate the chat room.  I really rattled her cage.  She told me she doesn't always agree with Lori and that she doesn't make fun of her and that she does unto others as she would have them do unto her.

Yes, this is the same cousin who posted the Joan Rivers video saying Michelle Obama is really a man.  And has told me that I don't follow God's perfect ways because I'm not married and I had a job.  

My view -- what you permit you promote.  If you share Lori's posts, you're supporting her point of view.  People aren't going to separate one view from another.  Your name is linked with hers for the world to see.

[HoneyBunny]

1 hour ago, crawfishgirl said:

She is excusing slavery here.  Disgusting.  Much of the bible is just historical, but she uses it as an excuse for her current belief system.  If slavery was legal, I can imagine her owning slaves and using the bible to justify her actions.  She is truly vile.

You know what her comments lead me to think, when she says God knew slavery would always exist so he just wanted everyone to “play nice”? Maybe the God of the Bible is not worth revering. Every time she comes up with one of those “well, it’s not disallowed in the Bible” comments, I have to wonder why any intelligent person builds their entire belief system around a flawed book. 

[Pammy]

27 minutes ago, HoneyBunny said:

You know what her comments lead me to think, when she says God knew slavery would always exist so he just wanted everyone to “play nice”? Maybe the God of the Bible is not worth revering. Every time she comes up with one of those “well, it’s not disallowed in the Bible” comments, I have to wonder why any intelligent person builds their entire belief system around a flawed book. 

In case you are curious about how ordinary Christians (unlike Lori) understand this concept... here's a free moment of theology.

Many believers (unlike Lori) find this description of God kind of comforting and humbling. I understand it like: humans have always been this type of harsh, immoral, unbelievably heartless kind of being. Both our history and our present give us the impression that when we run wild, very little good comes from it. We are astonished that God finds us even tolerable (based on what we know from the Bible are God's beliefs about right and wrong). Yet we read narratives of God shouldering into situations that are deeply wrong on many levels (and we know it) and pressing for a goal of "something somewhat better".

It's an 'attribute of God' drawn from the Christian Bible that God is going to try for "short-term achievable moral improvement" no matter how bad a situation is, *and* that God promises "long-term miraculous moral perfection" to people who can't possibly imagine what that means. Because real moral perfection involves so much more than not owning slaves (just like it involved more than refraining from being brutal to your slaves in the days of slavery). Real moral perfection is going to change so much about ourselves that we weren't even conscious was wrong or hurting anyone.

The style of literature in the Bible (multiple writings over thousands of years) does not encourage intelligent readers (unlike Lori) to pretend that God's individual "achievable improvement" instructions (at various times) are representative of the moral code or the goodness of God. They represent God's condescension; God's unwillingness to find a situation so bad that 'if it can't be made right, it shouldn't be made better'; God's ongoing dogged determination to drag humanity out of the horrors we are prone to create for ourselves and others. Minimum standards for ancient societies aren't supposed to fully express the call or character of God. (That's what poetry and prophesy are for.)

[HoneyBunny]

Thank you Pammy. As a quasi-Catholic who has always questioned the Bible, I found your explanation comforting. I reiterate what I’ve said many times in the past...Lori is responsible for pushing countless people away from Christianity.