Lori Alexander 76: Ken Advises Saving?

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

No germs 2000 years ago WTF -- Yet another Fundie Education Fail. Epic Fail!!!!!

I guess no one taught her or she never learned  or she forgot that 2000 or even 200 years ago there were plenty of germs (see leprosy) but no one knew what a germ was.  No one could see a germ because the microscope wasn't invented.

 Does Barbara BJ think women died of puerperal fever because God hated them?  No moron. It was the midwives' or doctors' filthy hands and  instruments and the doctor's disgusting, worse than filthy surgeon's coat. In other words -- Germs!!!

Sorry for the rant -- Willful ignorance makes me stabby.

Oh wait ........  I forgot fundies believe everything bad is the fault of the fallen sinful world.

So that fact that there are now germs and disease is all the fault of the ungody, heathen, unchristian people of today. Probably most especially those career-having college-educated feminist jezebels since 1960.

 

[wallysmommy]

I just want to slap some of the anti-vaxers and say "do you know what they called people who wouldn't take the smallpox vaccine?"  "Dead."  Lori just needs to look at her left upper arm and see that vaccines do serve a purpose.  

[Dana723]

5 hours ago, hollyfeller said:

Today's Facebook gem is actually from Dale Partridge's page, but I believe this lady is/was one of Lori's leghumpers.

Her point is to wear a mask to protect others, which I appreciate, but I never knew there were no germs 2000 years ago!  SMH

I took it to mean that they didn't know about germs back then and would not have realized wearing a mask would help prevent the spread of germs.  But that's just me.

[hollyfeller]

1 hour ago, wallysmommy said:

I just want to slap some of the anti-vaxers and say "do you know what they called people who wouldn't take the smallpox vaccine?"  "Dead."  Lori just needs to look at her left upper arm and see that vaccines do serve a purpose.  

My mom told me that everyone in her high school filed through the gym to take the polio vaccine when it became available.  It was on a sugar cube!

[Loveday]

11 hours ago, hollyfeller said:

My mom told me that everyone in her high school filed through the gym to take the polio vaccine when it became available.  It was on a sugar cube!

I remember getting the sugar cube in kindergarten or first grade, around 1963-64. I can still recall the hard crunchy sweetness of the sugar, but I can't remember if there was any taste of the vaccine itself. I also remember getting the smallpox vaccine, but that wouldn't have been in school, would it? I just have a vague memory of a shot, and then I got a sort of sore, or pox, I guess, on my arm for a week or two, and then all that was left was the scar. That was probably in the Navy clinic, though. Too long ago, another lifetime. LOL.

[Hane]

Another oldie here, born in 1952 during the polio epidemic. We were all given polio vaccines at school: I recall at least one injection, liquid cherry-flavored vaccine on a plastic spoon, and finally a sugar cube. I had to get a second smallpox vaccination to get accepted into college. The chickenpox and MMR vaccines came along too late for me, so I contracted all the associated diseases but rubella. When I was 16, the Health Department refused me the rubella vaccine because “what if you’re pregnant. (I hadn’t even been out on a date yet.) When I was 20, married, and on the pill, they still refused: I had to pick up the vaccine and take it to my gynecologist’s office to get it injected there. 

[Loveday]

7 minutes ago, Hane said:

Another oldie here, born in 1952 during the polio epidemic. We were all given polio vaccines at school: I recall at least one injection, liquid cherry-flavored vaccine on a plastic spoon, and finally a sugar cube. I had to get a second smallpox vaccination to get accepted into college. The chickenpox and MMR vaccines came along too late for me, so I contracted all the associated diseases but rubella. When I was 16, the Health Department refused me the rubella vaccine because “what if you’re pregnant. (I hadn’t even been out on a date yet.) When I was 20, married, and on the pill, they still refused: I had to pick up the vaccine and take it to my gynecologist’s office to get it injected there. 

I had to google to find out when the mumps vaccine first became available, because I know I had the mumps when I was a kid (my mother says she doesn't remember that, but I was the one with swollen glands and misery, not her! LOL). It came out in 1967, and the measles/rubella vaccines came out a little later, and were then combined into the MMR.  I was about eight when I had the mumps, in 1966, so it all fits. Never got the measles, though, thankfully. Got chicken pox, of course, almost everyone I knew did. Good times, good times.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Lori's leghumper fangirls are all on board with closing all the "government schools" because then all the money will go back to the parents, and everyone can home school or in a pinch private school with vouchers.

Christians will band together in their communities and churches and open up and fund their own schools. Would that be related to churches supporting the widows and orphans in the churches so no single woman ever has to go to work?

Most of these fangirls are laboring under the impression that everyone in America is Christian, so of course they want to save their godly children from the socialist/ feminist/ atheist indoctrination of the public school. Remember we're one step from Bill Gates implanting tracking chips in everyone.

One of the comments (and it's still there) reminds Lori and the leghumpers that not everyone in America is a Christian and that there are an awful lot of people out there that don't have the knowledge or willingness or desire to teach their children.  Some parents are abusive and neglectful. Those parents aren't going to homeschool or put the child in private schools

It's a voice of reason crying in the wilderness of conspiracy theories and beliefs that public schools are fleshpot cesspools of the devil.  People can believe what they want no matter how ridiculous or wrong -- but the damage they are doing to their children makes me howl with rage.

Edited May 23, 2020 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[Sarah92]

I remember I had a friend in high school who for a while went to a Christian school despite being Muslim. She went there before moving to our area because it was a better school. I’m pretty sure they were jerks to her there but it also shows that not just Christians are going to Christian schools. I’ve spent a large portion of my education going to Christian schools 3-8th grade and all of my higher education. There are jerks and awful people everywhere. And honestly, it was Christian schools and churches that made me question my faith more than anything. Once my eyes were open to not only a more complex theology and the abuse that’s in the church community it sent my faith spiraling. 

[Caroline]

7 hours ago, Loveday said:

I had to google to find out when the mumps vaccine first became available, because I know I had the mumps when I was a kid (my mother says she doesn't remember that, but I was the one with swollen glands and misery, not her! LOL). It came out in 1967, and the measles/rubella vaccines came out a little later, and were then combined into the MMR.  I was about eight when I had the mumps, in 1966, so it all fits. Never got the measles, though, thankfully. Got chicken pox, of course, almost everyone I knew did. Good times, good times.

I was born in 1958 and received the vaccine for rubella in grade 6.  I distinctly remember the school nurse asking me if I was yet 12 ( I wasn't) and I asked why.  Her answer to me, a very naive 11 year old, was: "possible pregnancy".  I had no idea what she was talking about.  I was still six years away from getting my first period!   On a sadder note, a family friend of ours who's 6 years younger than me is deaf and blind because her mother contracted rubella when she was pregnant.   There are some devastating effects to not vaccinating people.  I also had the mumps and chicken pox, but not measles.  I'm glad kids today don't have to go through those icky childhood illnesses because of vaccines.  I'll be first in line for a covid vaccine because I'm over 60 with high bp and have a husband with asthma, and I work in a public school.  If the fundies don't want to vaccinate against covid because of their silly conspiracy theories, that means there's more for the rest of us.

20 hours ago, Dana723 said:

I took it to mean that they didn't know about germs back then and would not have realized wearing a mask would help prevent the spread of germs.  But that's just me.

That was my interpretation too.  I've seen other remarks by her, and she seems very balanced, intelligent, and normal.  Maybe she just didn't express it clearly?

[Hane]

@Loveday, I am eternally grateful that no kid will ever have to suffer through the mumps. I got them at 11, and it was excruciating. The  older you are the worse it is. My friend’s husband got them at 14 and it killed one of his testicles. 

[Sarah92]

So according to Lori: Women must suffer through anything and everything and must sacrifice their very sense of self in order to be holy. But to the men it’s all, “oh the music is too emotional for you and you don’t want to attend church? Oh the majority of American churches are still driven by male leadership but there might be a few female leaders floating so you think the church is too feminine so you want to skip? You think not attending church excuses you from being decent men? That’s okay we understand your feelings, it must be hard to listen to all these emotional songs about Jesus Christ sacrificing his life so you can live. You just stay home you poor thing. 
 

Promoting fragile masculinity to the fullest. 

[louisa05]

18 hours ago, Sarah92 said:

So according to Lori: Women must suffer through anything and everything and must sacrifice their very sense of self in order to be holy. But to the men it’s all, “oh the music is too emotional for you and you don’t want to attend church? Oh the majority of American churches are still driven by male leadership but there might be a few female leaders floating so you think the church is too feminine so you want to skip? You think not attending church excuses you from being decent men? That’s okay we understand your feelings, it must be hard to listen to all these emotional songs about Jesus Christ sacrificing his life so you can live. You just stay home you poor thing. 
 

Promoting fragile masculinity to the fullest. 

Same applies to their view of marriage. Men are so fragile that they’ll fall apart if their wife disagrees with them or is unhappy ever at all about anything. They make men sound like unstable, overgrown toddlers yet insist they’re the only ones strong enough to be in charge of anything. 

[crawfishgirl]

On 5/22/2020 at 4:17 PM, cindyluvs24 said:

I live in New Jersey and $7800 for a McMansion is cheap!   

I live in a state with no state income taxes, so our property taxes are sky-high as a result.  We also have a high sales tax.  The $7800 is about what I pay as well, and I'm sure that my house is appraised at a much lower value than her house in the expensive San Diego area.  But with no state income taxes, my overall tax bill isn't as bad as it could be.  The local governments have to fund their operations somehow.

[hollyfeller]

Today's gem from Lori's FB.  Did you know hammers and screwdrivers have biological purposes?  News to me.

[Sarah92]

2 hours ago, hollyfeller said:

Today's gem from Lori's FB.  Did you know hammers and screwdrivers have biological purposes?  News to me.

He clearly hasn’t tried hard enough then cause it can be done. It might not be his preferred way but some people might like it the way they do it. 

 

[Hane]

I sometimes wonder whether these people who say, “Don’t want a baby? Then just don’t have sex!” are asexual and have no base understanding of why other folks just plain enjoy sex.

[wallysmommy]

Let's face it, the only thing Lori enjoys is harping on social media.  Sex isn't even in the realm of pleasure for her.

[hollyfeller]

2 hours ago, Hane said:

I sometimes wonder whether these people who say, “Don’t want a baby? Then just don’t have sex!” are asexual and have no base understanding of why other folks just plain enjoy sex.

They say that to women.  The men can do whatever they want.  Not sure how that math works out, though...

[cindyluvs24]

15 hours ago, wallysmommy said:

Let's face it, the only thing Lori enjoys is harping on social media.  Sex isn't even in the realm of pleasure for her.

I wonder if her infrequent bathing and chicken schmaltz moisturizing routine is a subtle way to keep Ken out of her inner sanctum. His " ten minutes and lube" doesn't do much for the little man in the boat.......

Edited May 26, 2020 by cindyluvs24

[SongRed7]

On 5/22/2020 at 1:51 PM, louisa05 said:

She has no idea what education costs. The numbers would not come close to adding up in her little fantasy. 

You are correct.  I live in a very high tax state.  We have a modest 2-story home in a mostly blue collar town.  Certainly not a six-bedroom McMansion like Lori and Ken. We pay almost $9,000 a year in taxes.  (that's cheap for NJ)...all of our kids went to Christian schools (our local public school is just "ok")...but for other reasons we chose to send our children to Christian (Catholic) schools. Youngest is in HS...it cost around $17,000 a year.  She has NO idea what they are talking about (Lori)

 

On 5/22/2020 at 5:17 PM, cindyluvs24 said:

I live in New Jersey and $7800 for a McMansion is cheap!   

Another Jersey girl here @cindyluvs24    I WISH my taxes were that much..(and I live in a modest, South Jersey town)

 

[Imrlgoddess]

Under the "men aren't masculine" post.  I keep seeing this narrative among her cronies & the like.  When did this idea become a thing, that women are the gatekeepers for sex? 

If that were at all true there would be far fewer cases of men getting laid via coercion, however benign that coercion is.  How many dates/wives/girlfriends/etc get pleaded with, begged, or simply talked into it?  If men really knew how often women concede..... well.  No.  Maybe it wouldn't change a thing.  

 

Added fuel to my proposal: 

"Indeed, experts note one last trait shared by men who have raped: they do not believe they are the problem."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/health/men-rape-sexual-assault.html

[klein_roeschen]

11 hours ago, Imrlgoddess said:

Added fuel to my proposal: 

"Indeed, experts note one last trait shared by men who have raped: they do not believe they are the problem."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/health/men-rape-sexual-assault.html

If you are raised on the ideas that men "need" sex, that they can be lead astray by "sluttily" dressed women and that rape is only something that happens when a stranger holds a knife to your troat and the husband gets entitled to sex from the moment they are married, than of corse they don't see themselfes as the problem. And that won't change until the broader society change.

[AmericanRose]

19 hours ago, Imrlgoddess said:

Under the "men aren't masculine" post.  I keep seeing this narrative among her cronies & the like.  When did this idea become a thing, that women are the gatekeepers for sex? 

If that were at all true there would be far fewer cases of men getting laid via coercion, however benign that coercion is.  How many dates/wives/girlfriends/etc get pleaded with, begged, or simply talked into it?  If men really knew how often women concede..... well.  No.  Maybe it wouldn't change a thing.  

Uhh. Is that Jonathan idiot trying to say that if a man gets a woman pregnant and walks away, it's her fault because she picked him????? WTF.

[Imrlgoddess]

1 hour ago, AmericanRose said:

Uhh. Is that Jonathan idiot trying to say that if a man gets a woman pregnant and walks away, it's her fault because she picked him????? WTF.

Yes.  And I could easily find multiple other comments from Lori's fans stating the exact same thing.  Women are *always* at fault.