Lori Alexander 76: Ken Advises Saving?

[Hane]

Lori is a nitwit. In college, I learned a ton about childhood development and how children learn. And at the time, my ultimate goal was being a SAHM. Strangely enough, that didn’t work out, and I found myself divorced with a year-old baby. My degrees proved invaluable in helping me support myself and my child, pay for our home and her education and wedding, and save for my retirement.

[PinkPrincess0213]

 

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This drives me batty! Her credential certainly would have taught her how to teach her children if she hadn't been so adamant she didn't want to work and determined to learn NOTHING. Teaching is not easy and definitely not for the lazy-minded Lori. Her method of throwing some books at them and making them rest in their rooms wasn't teaching either.

[treehugger]

I thought Emily went to law school?

[Frog99]

2 hours ago, treehugger said:

I thought Emily went to law school?

I thought pre-law or something along those lines. I don’t think she went to dental school. 

Did Erin go to college?

[Melissa1977]

5 hours ago, treehugger said:

I thought Emily went to law school?

Sorry, then. I thought she studied the same as Steve. Didn't she helped him for a while? 

[treehugger]

@Melissa1977, I just checked her fb page and tried her instagram, but her IG is private, and the only thing her fb says (I’m not a friend so I can probably only see a tiny bit) is that she studied Interpersonal Communication and Bible/Theology at Wheaton College.  So, I can’t substantiate my claim at all at the moment.  

[Frog99]

19 minutes ago, treehugger said:

@Melissa1977, I just checked her fb page and tried her instagram, but her IG is private, and the only thing her fb says (I’m not a friend so I can probably only see a tiny bit) is that she studied Interpersonal Communication and Bible/Theology at Wheaton College.  So, I can’t substantiate my claim at all at the moment.  

I remember reading somewhere that her plan was to go to law school but don’t remember where I read that, but that’s why I thought she had a degree that could transition to law school. Someone who has been around for a while could answer better. 

[Melissa1977]

I have checked both Ken and Steve professional webpages. I'm surprised that they show their families there, and say they are married, number of kids, hobbies, etc. 

My question for US posters is: is it normal for US companies? In Spain, a dentist company webpage would list their doctors and maybe where they studied, but would never inform about marriages, kids or other personal data. It would be considered weird.

So I wonder if it is just a cultural difference between countries or it's an Alexander's thing.

[SongRed7]

1 hour ago, treehugger said:

I just checked her fb page and tried her instagram, but her IG is private, and the only thing her fb says (I’m not a friend so I can probably only see a tiny bit) is that she studied Interpersonal Communication and Bible/Theology at Wheaton College.  So, I can’t substantiate my claim at all at the moment.  

Yes...I believe this was her undergrad degree (which I think she obtained) and then attended law school but I don't think she finished...I believe I saw that information on the Always Learning blog a long time ago.   

Emily is very educated and so are her sisters...one is a nurse and studying or has completed her studies as Certified Nurse Midwife (not the "practical" midwifery program like the Duggars) but actually advance practice degree.  And I believe she is unmarried as well. Emily also has a brother who is a musician I believe (rock?) and other females relatives who are professionals.

 

[Loveday]

2 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

I have checked both Ken and Steve professional webpages. I'm surprised that they show their families there, and say they are married, number of kids, hobbies, etc. 

My question for US posters is: is it normal for US companies? In Spain, a dentist company webpage would list their doctors and maybe where they studied, but would never inform about marriages, kids or other personal data. It would be considered weird.

So I wonder if it is just a cultural difference between countries or it's an Alexander's thing.

I'n in the US, and I find it a little weird, myself. I mean, my doctor has a very short bio on his practice's website, and I think the only things on it pertain to his professional life. It MIGHT mention whether he's married and has kids or not, but I can't recall ever reading that, so probably not. Certainly nothing about his hobbies, and no family photos! I don't need to know any of that, I only want to know where he went to school and how qualified he is to treat me! LOL.

[wallysmommy]

Usually the corporate bios are 90% professional and education, and a sentence or two like, Mary is married, has 3 sons, and resided in Small Town since 2005.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Ken and Steve probably use all that personal info to signal what godly Christian men they are. 

I believe there is Christian Yellow Pages ( has the fish symbol on the front) in which only "Christian" businesses are listed and advertise.  Thereby ensuring the public that your "Christian" business will never cheat you, do shoddy work or rip you off.

Any FJ-ers have stories (pro and/or con) about "Christian" businesses?

[Frog99]

5 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

I have checked both Ken and Steve professional webpages. I'm surprised that they show their families there, and say they are married, number of kids, hobbies, etc. 

My question for US posters is: is it normal for US companies? In Spain, a dentist company webpage would list their doctors and maybe where they studied, but would never inform about marriages, kids or other personal data. It would be considered weird.

So I wonder if it is just a cultural difference between countries or it's an Alexander's thing.

I think that’s an Alexander thing. I personally don’t think it’s all thst professional. As someone above said- my need to know regarding doctors is education and ability. I don’t even care much about bedside manner provided the office runs efficiently, staff are pleasant, etc. 

1 hour ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

Ken and Steve probably use all that personal info to signal what godly Christian men they are. 

I believe there is Christian Yellow Pages ( has the fish symbol on the front) in which only "Christian" businesses are listed and advertise.  Thereby ensuring the public that your "Christian" business will never cheat you, do shoddy work or rip you off.

Any FJ-ers have stories (pro and/or con) about "Christian" businesses?

No stories but I remember reading somewhere a comment that Christian businesses shouldn’t have to advertise as such because they should already be known for good, honest, and fair practices. That made a lot of sense. 

[Sarah92]

5 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

I have checked both Ken and Steve professional webpages. I'm surprised that they show their families there, and say they are married, number of kids, hobbies, etc. 

My question for US posters is: is it normal for US companies? In Spain, a dentist company webpage would list their doctors and maybe where they studied, but would never inform about marriages, kids or other personal data. It would be considered weird.

So I wonder if it is just a cultural difference between countries or it's an Alexander's thing.

I’m guessing they think it makes them seem like salt of the earth, everyday men rather than upper middle class business men. It might draw small town people to them. People voted for Trump because he didn’t speak all “educated” but in a very “down to earth” way. There’s an appeal to that because some see that as being more moral and less corrupted by liberal education. 
 

If Lori’s education to teach children didn’t teach her to help raise her own I don’t even know what to say. That’s just a new low of the refusing to learn a damn thing scale. 

[kpmom]

3 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

Any FJ-ers have stories (pro and/or con) about "Christian" businesses?

I don't have stories, but my husband and I always say if we see a fish symbol, or a Bible verse in a company's ad, we cross that company off our list.

[louisa05]

8 hours ago, Melissa1977 said:

I have checked both Ken and Steve professional webpages. I'm surprised that they show their families there, and say they are married, number of kids, hobbies, etc. 

My question for US posters is: is it normal for US companies? In Spain, a dentist company webpage would list their doctors and maybe where they studied, but would never inform about marriages, kids or other personal data. It would be considered weird.

So I wonder if it is just a cultural difference between countries or it's an Alexander's thing.

It’s actually pretty common here in the Midwest to see a brief sentence about family and hobbies at the end of a doctor bio on clinic websites.  And I’ve seen similar bios on other professional sites. We had to submit a bio including that sort of thing for the school website when I was a full time teacher, too.  So I don’t think it’s some weird nefarious evangelical thing at all. 

[Maggie Mae]

51 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

It’s actually pretty common here in the Midwest to see a brief sentence about family and hobbies at the end of a doctor bio on clinic websites.  And I’ve seen similar bios on other professional sites. We had to submit a bio including that sort of thing for the school website when I was a full time teacher, too.  So I don’t think it’s some weird nefarious evangelical thing at all. 

It's pretty common here, too. You'd see something like Dr Smiles Too Much graduated from University with degree in Marine Biology, and attended Northwestern for their DDS. In her spare time, she enjoys hiking, walking her pet corgi "Apple," and mountain climbing. Or whatever. They like to put things in that help them identify as "Alaskan," which usually involves a picture of them holding a fish they caught 4 years ago, or wearing hiking clothes, biking or skiing. Most people around here can identify with one of those things, and having a friendly connection to your dentist makes me people like them. 

I love my dentist, we always end up chatting about skiing. I know they put notes about my personal likes (he always offers an iPod or an ipod, and if you tell them what kind of music you like they preload it), but it's still nice that they take the time to do it. We're also offered sunglasses and warm blankets which make it seem less like a person is stabbing at my gums and more like a nice time to relax. 

[louisa05]

26 minutes ago, Maggie Mae said:

It's pretty common here, too. You'd see something like Dr Smiles Too Much graduated from University with degree in Marine Biology, and attended Northwestern for their DDS. In her spare time, she enjoys hiking, walking her pet corgi "Apple," and mountain climbing. Or whatever. They like to put things in that help them identify as "Alaskan," which usually involves a picture of them holding a fish they caught 4 years ago, or wearing hiking clothes, biking or skiing. Most people around here can identify with one of those things, and having a friendly connection to your dentist makes me people like them. 

I love my dentist, we always end up chatting about skiing. I know they put notes about my personal likes (he always offers an iPod or an ipod, and if you tell them what kind of music you like they preload it), but it's still nice that they take the time to do it. We're also offered sunglasses and warm blankets which make it seem less like a person is stabbing at my gums and more like a nice time to relax. 

My dentist is a family friend. His wife and my mother worked together for 20 years.  I was at his step-kids’s weddings and he and his wife were at ours. Mr 05’s mom used to be a dental assistant and so his dentist is a family friend, too. We’re guessing we’re the only couple ever who both had their dentists at their wedding. 
 

At my retinal specialists office, they have big photos of all their doctors with their families lining the hallway on the way in. 

[hollyfeller]

Here's a recent blog comment that makes me seethe.  Why do women have brains at all if we're just supposed to be cooking, cleaning, breeding bots??

[louisa05]

1 hour ago, hollyfeller said:

Here's a recent blog comment that makes me seethe.  Why do women have brains at all if we're just supposed to be cooking, cleaning, breeding bots??

The misuse of apostrophes makes the former English teacher in me cringe ? 

[Maggie Mae]

4 hours ago, louisa05 said:

We’re guessing we’re the only couple ever who both had their dentists at their wedding. 

My childhood dentist was at plenty of my milestone events, but he was my Grandpa (who hated being called "grandpa" or "granddad" or anything other than his first name) so I guess that doesn't count. ?

1 hour ago, hollyfeller said:

Here's a recent blog comment that makes me seethe.  Why do women have brains at all if we're just supposed to be cooking, cleaning, breeding bots??

Yes, let's not let women have hopes or dreams. Then they might want more than a life of wiping butts and making sandwiches. 

[usmcmom]

My former dentist was an amazingly nice man. He had an amazingly nice wife and six great kids. He was also SEVERELY handsome.  Many of my friends were his patients too and we used to brag about getting to go see him:

”You have a dental appointment??!!? Damn.  I could used a dental appointment.”

His daughters played summer softball with my daughter so we’d talk softball and concession stand when I was in there. My husband got running advice from him because Dreamy Dentist ran marathons. 

My new dentist is very nice and easy to talk to as well. Last time I saw him, though,  I realized I have reached the age where my healthcare providers could be my kids. *sigh*

[fluffy]

Emily Rice Alexander graduated from Wheaton. She is from a well educated family with a mother who worked. One of her sisters is a professor, and Emily herself seems to value education. She started law school at the University of Houston Law Center, but I think only went one year before meeting Stephen and marrying him, so I think when Lori bitches about women with debt. it's likely Emily she's talking about. Emily is a SAHM to three kids. 

Cassi started at Biola (like her two brothers) and loved it before Lori and Ken decided it wasn't worth it to educate their daughter. She lived at home went to a local state school that was (surprise!) not Christian enough. Lori laments that Cassi had to learn about gay men in a sociology course. 

Ryan's wife Erin met him at Biola, from which she also graduated.

Like everything with Lori, her views on education became increasingly strident and hateful over the years. If you read her old blog, you hardly recognize the woman who became such a harridan. She wasn't progressive or smart or anything that interesting, but she wasn't nearly as nasty as she's become.  

 

[SongRed7]

22 hours ago, wallysmommy said:

Usually the corporate bios are 90% professional and education, and a sentence or two like, Mary is married, has 3 sons, and resided in Small Town since 2005.

I work in the Marketing/Communications department of a large urban health system. We only have professional information and professional 'interests" (related to their specialties -- for example an internist might list "women health" or an orthopedic doctor might list "sports injuries, or knee replacement" ...Nothing about families or hobbies. 

But on Ken's professional site he lists "marketing" as an area of expertise and I've seen articles he's written about how to market a practice by having giveaways, free ice cream int he summer and such..  Personally, I think it's hokey.  He probably advises having the personal information as well as an attempt to make the care seem personal ("we are all one happy family"). From a marketing perspective, I haven't seen any definitive studies that that works in bringing in /retaining patients. 

However, IMHO, it has risks as it exposes your family in a personal way and takes away their privacy which, although rare, maybe risky to scammers or those who wish you harm. 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2020 by SongRed7

[klein_roeschen]

16 hours ago, hollyfeller said:

Here's a recent blog comment that makes me seethe.  Why do women have brains at all if we're just supposed to be cooking, cleaning, breeding bots??

More like men like him can't understand how a intelligent woman didn't let go off every dream, hope and hard work because he shows interest in her. But I can't imagine how a girlwoman educated and raised the Lori way is able to help her college educated husband achieve his dreams? Well, besides being his servant and joyfully available all the time to stroke his ego.