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They must turn off their notification apps because how can someone own a smartphone and not know what's going on. So it looks like the only bad news the little kids know about is abortion? Well I can understand the younger kids, but Nathan's oldest daughter is almost a teenager. How much of the outside world does she really know about? Some fundies are extremely fascinating.

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21 minutes ago, Tangy Bee said:

They must turn off their notification apps because how can someone own a smartphone and not know what's going on. So it looks like the only bad news the little kids know about is abortion? Well I can understand the younger kids, but Nathan's oldest daughter is almost a teenager. How much of the outside world does she really know about? Some fundies are extremely fascinating.

I have every and all notifications turned off on my phone except for incoming calls and texts. My phone does nothing unless I tell it to - it tells me nothing of its own accord. 

*Edited to add - except, of course, the damn updates it seems to need to do on the regular. That update bubble makes me cranky. 

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I saw an ad this morning for the Cancer Treatment Centers of America which reminded me of a good reason for Anna to be going to a specialized treatment center:  whereas a regular hospital is not the place you want to be right now unless you'e got COVID-19,  a treatment center is not going to be overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients.  I hope that Anna gets the best care possible at Lifespring or wherever she is going.

@Maggie Mae, I'm pretty sure that Washington enacted Medicaid expansion to cover more people under Obamacare.  They've got a sane state government there unlike SC.  We've never expanded Medicaid and we just went on limited lockdown recently.  The lockdown is not as expansive as it should be.  To appease the Xtian populace, Gov. Henry "Foghorn Leghorn" McMaster didn't close churches and allows your family to visit.  My daughters that live locally did not come over on Easter, even though they could have.  They're smart enough to know that lockdown should mean your household.  Our across the street neighbors, not so much.  

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Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

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6 minutes ago, Hane said:

Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

I remember reading that also. 

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3 hours ago, Tangy Bee said:

They must turn off their notification apps because how can someone own a smartphone and not know what's going on. So it looks like the only bad news the little kids know about is abortion? Well I can understand the younger kids, but Nathan's oldest daughter is almost a teenager. How much of the outside world does she really know about? Some fundies are extremely fascinating.


Abby knows she is protected By Daddy and Jesus from a sinful morally corrupt world that  causes pure young  Christian ladies like her to become sinners and morally corrupt. In due time Daddy and Jesus choose she will be handed over the headship and leadership of A Godly breadwinner who will provide all she needs while she raises many Godly  meek little girls and future Godly Headships.
 

If no headship comes she will take care of her elders and siblings children and keep house and pray for doomed heathens and worldly people the rest of her life.  
   
And she knows she better be excepting and happy about That or She is doubting Gods Plan and Will. 

 

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I hope Anna’s going to Washington because it’s the best option for her long term health and that saving her fertility has nothing to do with this decision.

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1 hour ago, Hane said:

Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

So One American News or whatever that horrid site (is it on TV now too?) is called. Gross. 

 

1 hour ago, PennySycamore said:

 I'm pretty sure that Washington enacted Medicaid expansion to cover more people under Obamacare.  They've got a sane state government there unlike SC.  We've never expanded Medicaid and we just went on limited lockdown recently.  The lockdown is not as expansive as it should be.

Our "governor" who was elected because he is taller than Trump, (No joke, his campaign was literally "look how tall, white, and anti-abortion I am.") CUT medicaid, and then acted incompetently and signed the wrong thing. Uncorrected, we would have lost 40 million in medicaid/medicare funding. Absurdly incompetent fellow. One guy had his teeth removed on a Wednesday, scheduled for his implants the next week, then was told he couldn't have them because of Medicaid cuts. I signed the recall petition last night - they are sending it out to homes to make sure that enough signatures will be gathered. I honestly hate him equally or more than Trump. 

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I hope the recall petition succeeds, @Maggie Mae.   That guy sounds horribly incompetent and a real nutcase.  At least Foghorn McMcMaster is that bad.

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2 hours ago, Hane said:

Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

They also get the weather forecast from a weather radio.

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3 hours ago, Hane said:

Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

I wonder what some of these sites have to say about the suggestion by some “pro-life” legislators that old people are expendable when it comes to goosing the economy.

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3 hours ago, Giraffe said:

I hope Anna’s going to Washington because it’s the best option for her long term health and that saving her fertility has nothing to do with this decision.

I hope so too.  While she might be concerned about her fertility, she must realize that her only chances to have more babies involve living.

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10 hours ago, Tatar-tot said:

I hope Chris is getting some support throughout this entire mess.  It is going to be extremely difficult on him to not be with her & try to focus on his kids & his work. 

I really feel for Chris and Anna Marie during this time. Anna Marie is probably scared and won't be able to see her husband and, with the exception of Simon Peter, children for a few months I believe. Chris in the meantime will have to figure out a way to juggle working from home and taking care of the rest of the children. As I expressed before I have a feeling that one or two of the Maxwell daughters are self isolating with Chris. When all of the decisions were made Chris and Anna Marie, probably, had it worked out where Chris and the remaining children would visit in Washington a couple times. But, now due to COVID-19 the only choice they have is to separate their family. Like many I don't agree with the Maxwell's on many things, but this must be a painful time for Chris, Anna Marie and their children.

9 hours ago, Angelface said:

I am honestly baffled that the adult married men in the family, who must provide for their own families, are apparently so under their father, Steve’s, thumb. It just doesn’t make any sense at all. If one of them wishes to read a newspaper surely he can do so. It seems, from reading on FJ, that Steve’s intention has been to stunt his children in every way possible, lack of opportunity, lack of a real education, lack of exposure to the outside world, lack of critical thinking skills, lack of sport playing opportunities, lack of anything to compare to their own narrow world, and don’t get me started on the way that these “children” have been emotionally stunted. Sorry, just feeling rather cross this morning with too much time to fall down the Maxwell rabbit hole. Lockdown is in its fourth week now; life is a little strange. 

Tell me about it. You are not the only one baffled by how the married men are under Steve's thumb. It makes no sense in the world of fundiedom because once a man gets married they are able to make their own rules. What bothers me the most about Steve's whole entire no sports deal, to me, it looks like the family is allowed to play sports as long as it is kept within the family no outsiders allowed. Sarah has posted photos of the family partaking in activities that look like sports but no one else. I think the whole "no sports" deal is an excuse for Steve to continue isolating the family.

Plus, I think the Bontrager blogs have documented photos of John playing things like football and basketball. Then again John is married and moved out, so Steve's rules don't really apply to him. I hope John is able to bring some of the fun of sports to his family back home.

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I hope that Anna will FaceTime/Skype/Zoom with the kids as much as she's able.  Simon may need her most right now, but being older doesn't mean you don't need your mother.  

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I was thinking about this entire thing about bringing baby Simon with her has more to do with that on some level she must realize this may be her last baby.  Anna probably wants to enjoy every minute of him being a baby.   
 

Chemo beats the daylights out of your system.  I would be shocked if she ever got pregnant after this.  Maybe someOne out there in the land of the Free Jinger’s can chime in on this one.  

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3 minutes ago, Tatar-tot said:

I was thinking about this entire thing about bringing baby Simon with her has more to do with that on some level she must realize this may be her last baby.  Anna probably wants to enjoy every minute of him being a baby.   
 

Chemo beats the daylights out of your system.  I would be shocked if she ever got pregnant after this.  Maybe someOne out there in the land of the Free Jinger’s can chime in on this one.  

Hopefully this is her last baby, but even if he’s not, a lot happens developmentally to an infant in three months so I can understand why she’s taking him, even if she has more kids. 

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I completely understand her wanting Simon with her. I still don't get going away, though, unless she's sparing her older children the sight of a very sick mother. Seems so risky. 

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@Tatar-tot, I don't know how chemo affects fertility, but I do know that a breast that's undergone radiation therapy frequently has a lower milk supply in subsequent lactations.  

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4 hours ago, PennySycamore said:

I hope the recall petition succeeds, @Maggie Mae.   That guy sounds horribly incompetent and a real nutcase.  At least Foghorn McMcMaster is that bad.

I hope it works out. It's being headed up by a truly bipartisan group. However, it's "old school" Republicans, not the new weird trashy trump worshipers, 

I was thinking that this might be a good time for Christopher to take a more "hand-on" role in raising his children. Then I realized that likely won't happen, all the work will go to Sarah, Anna, Mary, and maybe Teri. Ugh. I do not want Anna to have any more children. 

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3 hours ago, NancyDrewFan1989 said:

I really feel for Chris and Anna Marie during this time. Anna Marie is probably scared and won't be able to see her husband and, with the exception of Simon Peter, children for a few months I believe. Chris in the meantime will have to figure out a way to juggle working from home and taking care of the rest of the children. As I expressed before I have a feeling that one or two of the Maxwell daughters are self isolating with Chris. When all of the decisions were made Chris and Anna Marie, probably, had it worked out where Chris and the remaining children would visit in Washington a couple times. But, now due to COVID-19 the only choice they have is to separate their family. Like many I don't agree with the Maxwell's on many things, but this must be a painful time for Chris, Anna Marie and their children.

 

They are. Sarah said "mom, Anna & Mary" will help Christopher. Whether they're actually staying there or not, I don't know, but they will be taking care of the kids. Sarah doesn't do childcare; she takes pictures and "writes". 

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Just tossing in another $0.02 on why only Simon Peter is on the flight - I hope they flew on a private plane (there are commercial lines who provide such flights for cancer patients, though the only past knowledge I have of this involved a four-year-old with neuroblastoma, so maybe it's only for pediatric patients - and if not that, then maybe whichever Duggar is a pilot) but if she was flying commercially, all the other kids are old enough to have required the purchase of a seat. S-P is still small enough to travel as a lap passenger. Plus, other than laundry/diapers, he won't create that much of a burden for her carers in Washington. He's not walking or climbing, won't need school taught, etc. He'll mostly sleep and eat.

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Premera is Blue Cross in Washington State.

I think the clinic looks legit-ish... but most of the testimonials are from people with metastatic cancer, where "maintenance"chemo is normally a lower but more frequent dose.  

Best of luck to Anna. I had breast cancer with a 2 year old... but locally and without 5 other kids.  I hope the choice is hers and hers alone. 

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12 hours ago, Tatar-tot said:

I was thinking about this entire thing about bringing baby Simon with her has more to do with that on some level she must realize this may be her last baby.  Anna probably wants to enjoy every minute of him being a baby.   
 

Chemo beats the daylights out of your system.  I would be shocked if she ever got pregnant after this.  Maybe someOne out there in the land of the Free Jinger’s can chime in on this one.  

I know chemo has a decent chance of causing male infertility or reduced fertility but that's not really relevant here.

 

17 hours ago, Hane said:

Re the Maxwells and news: Stevehovah once posted that they get their news from “carefully selected pro-life sites.” 

That seems so bizarre to me, cos like 99.9% of news I've read has nothing to do with abortion.  (I guess it's closer to 50:50 for the Maxwells.)

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NR Anna will be able to face time with the older children but Simon Peter is too young for that. Her mom and sisters will take good care of him while Anna is unable to. 

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16 hours ago, Tatar-tot said:

 I would be shocked if she ever got pregnant after this.  Maybe someOne out there in the land of the Free Jinger’s can chime in on this one.  

 

Breast cancer treatments can affect fertility adversely. Chemotherapy-induced ovarian issues may cause permanent amenorrhoea with complete loss of germ cells, transient amenorrhoea, menstrual irregularity and sub-fertility. The degree  a woman is affected depends  on the specific chemotherapy drugs used and the cumulative dose and the woman’s age. The  rate of amenorrhea in premenopausal women varies from quite low (on the order of 5% or less) in women under 30 years of age to high ( on the order of 50-70%) in older women.  

So it is possible for a woman to get pregnant post breast cancer treatment especially if she is younger (I'm not sure if Anna is over or under 30).  Most of the women I see have elected to see a fertility specialist (sometimes along with their oncologist to better plan fertility preservation) but that is not surprising since I work in a fertility clinic. I am not sure if Anna has consulted a fertility doctor or not but it would not surprise me if she'd decided to leave that to God and I highly doubt she would elect to use birth control post treatment. 

TL:DR I would not be shocked if Anna got pregnant post treatment 

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