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I think it’s ridiculous to expect a one year old to sit quietly for an hour. Anyone will tell you that’s not age appropriate. It’s like trying to teach a cat to do geometry. 

Geesh, Chelsy. Kansas law also allows women to have an abortion. Are you going to say THAT is okay too?   

Meanwhile; who is going to train Axton’s mother to put her phone down during “church services”?

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The Mother Dust
On 2/18/2020 at 5:28 PM, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Continued from here...

 

Thanks to @The Mother Dust for the thread title.

Omigosh!  Thank you!  In my "real life," this week has not been so great for my ego, so logging in to see this brought a needed boost.  :hug4:

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Foudeb

So Chelsy gave Acton raw cow's milk from ten months of age. 

She trained him to not touch his food (is that code for beat him every time he tried!?) and wonders why he's not interested in solids. 

That's because babies need to touch stuff to explore it, dumbass.

Am I the only one who is shocked by that raw milk thing? Isn't that a TB risk? And you really shouldn't give cow's milk to an infant under 12 months, their stomachs aren't mature enough for it. 

For all their claims to be great homemakers fundies are just really bad at parenting. 

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23 minutes ago, Foudeb said:

So Chelsy gave Acton raw cow's milk from ten months of age. 

She trained him to not touch his food (is that code for beat him every time he tried!?) and wonders why he's not interested in solids. 

That's because babies need to touch stuff to explore it, dumbass.

Am I the only one who is shocked by that raw milk thing? Isn't that a TB risk? And you really shouldn't give cow's milk to an infant under 12 months, their stomachs aren't mature enough for it. 

For all their claims to be great homemakers fundies are just really bad at parenting. 

Fundies suck at critical thinking. It’s why they all love the woo.

This is a comment under Chelsy’s newest post. It’s sickening. 

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nausicaa
24 minutes ago, Foudeb said:

That's because babies need to touch stuff to explore it, dumbass.

Am I the only one who is shocked by that raw milk thing? Isn't that a TB risk?

She's so dumb. I'm embarrassed I ever toyed with making her my pet Maxwell. 

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Hane

@Foudeb, I remember my baby sister deciding that the most efficient way of eating the dry Cheerios on her high chair tray was to stick them to the tip of her index finger and pop them into her mouth. Strangely enough, she doin learned how to use a fork and spoon.

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1 hour ago, Foudeb said:

 

She trained him to not touch his food (is that code for beat him every time he tried!?) and wonders why he's not interested in solids. 

 

 I missed this part! 

What is it with Fundies and food?!? 


Jill Rodrigues doesn’t feed her kids any.

Zsu Anderson locks her food in the cabinets. 

Lori Alexander’s son force feeds a crying child then refuses to feed her when she’s hungry. 

Lori Alexander...well...there’s too much to list here. 

And now we have a baby that can’t touch his food. 

These people are infuriating! 

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9 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

 I missed this part! 

What is it with Fundies and food?!? 


Jill Rodrigues doesn’t feed her kids any.

Zsu Anderson locks her food in the cabinets. 

Lori Alexander’s son force feeds a crying child then refuses to feed her when she’s hungry. 

Lori Alexander...well...there’s too much to list here. 

And now we have a baby that can’t touch his food. 

These people are infuriating! 

It’s all about control. I have 2 kids and I refuse to have big food battles. I have a picky eater. He is allowed to eat the same damn foods every day of his life. Because they aren’t junk. If he would only eat junk then yes, I would likely have a food battle. But he eats the same relatively healthy foods each day and I don’t make him eat more or less than what he wants. I don’t want him to over eat or under eat. I want him to pay attention to when he is hungry and full. I trust him to tell me how he is feeling. My kids have never been overweight or underweight in their little lives so far. I understand that some children do have real issues with weight and need to have to have their food intake monitored. But none of these fundies are dealing with that. They are trying to control their children through food and it shows. 

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Considering they think Michael Pearl is worthy of posing with, you can guess what they do to "train" their children, Chelsey included.

Training as a term defines what they are doing. They are not teaching their children to think or chose or how to function. They are training them to respond and act on command despite anything they may think or feel. 

When Chelsey said all that training about not messing with food or whatever meant Axton wasn't interested in a smash cake, my heart broke a little for that baby boy.  

Whether your a Bontrager, Maxwell, Anderson, Rodrigues or any other fundie the goal in raising kids isn't to raise decent human beings who can think and function in society; it's to raise robots to do exactly what they're told so they look good for Jesus. 

My sister & I are 18 months apart. It's only the two of us, so we didn't become a tag team of forced "best friend mommy's helpers", and my mom was a frazzled mother of two littles until we could function on our own. My mom was far from a perfect mother but she has told the story often of how proud & happy she was when my sister learned to tie her own shoes so she (mom) only had to worry about mine. I never asked, but I don't think the thought ever entered her mind that now that the oldest can do it, the youngest can learn from her (oldest) and mom is "out". 

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34 minutes ago, fundiefan said:

When Chelsey said all that training about not messing with food or whatever meant Axton wasn't interested in a smash cake, my heart broke a little for that baby boy. 

This is gut wrenching! It also helps show that wearing jeans & makeup are useless indicators to look at for whether fundy’s foundational beliefs have changed. 

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2 hours ago, Hane said:

@Foudeb, I remember my baby sister deciding that the most efficient way of eating the dry Cheerios on her high chair tray was to stick them to the tip of her index finger and pop them into her mouth. Strangely enough, she doin learned how to use a fork and spoon.

It's so cute when babies do that :)

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I remember Anna Marie at her wedding, tearfully thanking her parents for how they’d “trained” her. Not taught, not loved, not listened, not sympathized, not advised, not supported, not counseled—“trained.” And this was considered appropriate to share at her wedding, the high point of a fundie girl’s life.

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Free Axton!  I feel for that baby boy, yes I didnt like it either when Judgy Chelsy said "trained" in Axton's birthday post.

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12 hours ago, fundiefan said:

When Chelsey said all that training about not messing with food or whatever meant Axton wasn't interested in a smash cake, my heart broke a little for that baby boy.  

Oh man that is so sad. My son was in hospital for his first birthday. We had two parties - staff (pretty big, the day and afternoon shift nurses swung by in groups and we sang happy birthday multiple times - no candles for obvious reasons but we had an electric discoball on a stick thing that he found intensely interesting) and family (pretty small, and everyone was extremely healthy and handwashed obsessively on the way in). Both times my tube-fed, pressurised-oxygen-dependent happy baby played with a slice of cake and put his fingers in his mouth - and everyone was thrilled, especially the speech pathogists who'd been working on messy play and developing eating solids skills (he missed all the sucking/eating/developmental stuff due to being extremely medically fragile at the relevant time. Still isn't great at it.)

And both times he crashed out asleep for several hours after the party excitement. Heh.

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@Ozlsn,  I did not know that you'd had a medically fragile baby.  Those of us parents who've been there done that got the t-shirt never forget those days: the fears, the worries, and yes, the joys of that time.  And if you're in the NICU/PICU for any length of time, you are happy when something good happens to another baby.  It can be something major like a baby with biliary atresia being accepted at Pittsburgh for a liver transplant or maybe something like  the most medically compromised baby in the NICU having a relatively good day.  

Speech therapists/occupational therapists that work with medically fragile infants know the value of those infants playing with their food, but they also know that it's a good way to help a healthy child learn to eat solid foods.  Children that control their own eating have fewer issues with food.  Cheesy is not following Baby-led Weaning, that's for sure.  Could have the baby leading, could we?  (Weaning in this case refers to learning to eat solids and no, I'm not correcting the autocorrect on John's wife's name.)

 

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Had a friend who held her son's hands together with one hand while she spoon fed him with the other, you could see the kid wanted to grab the food himself, but she didn't want the mess.   

I grew up in a home where you ate ALL of what Mom put on your plate, and you didn't leave the table until you did.  I have never forced my kids to eat anything.   I would encourage them to try new things, and eventually they did.  If they didn't like what I cooked, there was always cereal and milk or yogurt, or sandwich fixings if they wanted to fix themselves something else.   Today, they are both eat a huge variety of cuisines and love buffets where you can try everything.    

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Ozlsn

@PennySycamore that typo made me laugh out loud. It makes me so sad to see Axton not grabbing for food - you don't have to give him a whole cake to grab, just let him play with a slice. A small slice even!! He should be curious and reaching out for things to put in his mouth constantly - not sitting quietly with his hands by his sides.

1 hour ago, Lady Grass Lake said:

Had a friend who held her son's hands together with one hand while she spoon fed him with the other,

I am obviously looking at it from the wrong angle because that sounds like so much more work and frustrating to me! Also how did the child go with learning cutlery? Just curious - we had sensory issues and it took ages.

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I didn't see her too much after that because I moved away from the city.  I thought it was cruel.  Kids make messes, that's why you put them in a high chair with just a diaper on and let them go at it if it's spaghetti, or if you want the clothes to stay moderately clean, give them food like cheerios or apple cut in tiny chunks or the new puffs, to practice on.   

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On 3/22/2020 at 5:59 PM, Ozlsn said:

@PennySycamore that typo made me laugh out loud. It makes me so sad to see Axton not grabbing for food - you don't have to give him a whole cake to grab, just let him play with a slice. A small slice even!! He should be curious and reaching out for things to put in his mouth constantly - not sitting quietly with his hands by his sides.

I am obviously looking at it from the wrong angle because that sounds like so much more work and frustrating to me! Also how did the child go with learning cutlery? Just curious - we had sensory issues and it took ages.

C'mon.  You should know that curiosity is of the devil.

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My kids would go from the high chair to the kitchen sink if necessary. Summertime, they might end up outside being hosed off (they loved it). They weren't very picky but they had to get plenty of sensory input before it made it actually IN their mouths. The up side was that the dogs enjoyed the hell out of it too. Even now some of them eat like Slimer. 

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On 3/24/2020 at 5:44 AM, daisyjane1234 said:

C'mon.  You should know that curiosity is of the devil.

 

My father actually told me that. "Curiosity is a sin." Thankfully I had enough critical thinking skills that I knew that was wrong. If no one was allowed curiosity, we'd still be living in caves. Ridiculous.

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On 3/22/2020 at 4:40 PM, Lady Grass Lake said:

If they didn't like what I cooked, there was always cereal and milk or yogurt, or sandwich fixings if they wanted to fix themselves something else. 

Unfortunately, when my mom was married to the Stepfather From Hell, I didn’t even have that option.  It was either sit there until I ate it, or go to bed hungry, and hope that the plate didn’t go into the refrigerator and show up again for breakfast.

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1 minute ago, smittykins said:

Unfortunately, when my mom was married to the Stepfather From Hell, I didn’t even have that option.  It was either sit there until I ate it, or go to bed hungry, and hope that the plate didn’t go into the refrigerator and show up again for breakfast.

This post makes me want to cook you yummy waffles.  And smack your stepmonster.

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He died a few years ago. 

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PennySycamore

@smittykins, your stepmonster reminds me of Joan Crawford in Mommy Dearest where she makes Christina sit at the dinner table until the eats her very rare, very bloody steak and then when it's late and the steak is still uneaten, Joan puts it in the fridge where it shows up at Christina's place at breakfast the next morning.  

ETA:  I'm glad for you that you no longer have to put up with your stepdad.  :hug:

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