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We hope you will be with us for many years to come. Don’t worry about memorizing this list. When you violate a “don’t”, you will be told-“We don’t do that”.

of course you will be told what not to do...the entire church is made up of big brothers! 

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32 minutes ago, quiversR4hunting said:

Before they scrub their page...here is a list of the rules - (Because it was in a pdf, I was only able to copy and paste it so it isn't the best readable copy.)

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Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 1 Let us take this opportunity to thank you for considering membership in Word of Faith Fellowship. Jane Whaley approved of your membership and asked that you be given this “New Member Handout”. In this handout, we will list a few of the very important rules- “do’s” and “don’ts”. Your enjoyment of your time with us will mainly be determined on how well you can keep these rules. Do’s1. You will be required to attend every service. If for some reason unforeseen at this time, you miss a service; you will be required to listen to the tape at the church. (Death, severe illness and surgery may be considered excused absences.) 2. You will be required to tithe (10% of your gross earnings) and give offerings. Jane will check your records from time to time. 3. You will be required to smile on command. This is called “keeping your happy face”. 4. You will be required to participate in group work projects. Enjoy it. We have need of many skills. 5. After each service, you will be required to clean the church and fellowship hall on a rotating basis. Don’ts – (this is a partial “living” list… at times, it takes on a life of its own, continuing to grow..) 1. Don’t drink alcohol. (includes beer, wine or liquor) 2. Don’t cook with alcohol. 3. Don’t eat at places that serve alcohol. 4. Don’t drink “Root beer”. 5. Don’t drink Cheerwine®. 6. Don’t drink diet Cheerwine®. 7. Don’t drink ginger ale. 8. Don’t smoke cigarettes. 9. Don’t dip snuff. 10. Don’t use chew tobacco. 11. Don’t associate willingly with those that do use tobacco. 12. Don’t watch movies. (Unless Jane gives approval.) 13. Don’t watch videos in your cars! 14. Don’t enter a movie theater- (unless Jane gives approval.) 15. Don’t read newspapers. Not even the headlines. 16. Don’t listen to the radio. 17. Don’t read or handle magazines. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 2 18. Don’t watch television. (except when allowed at church) 19. Don’t read books that are not approved by leadership. 20. Don’t read your Bible, too much. (Amplified version is acceptable) 21. Don’t take notes during the services. Only record scripture references. 22. Don’t forget to go to bathroom before the service. 23. Don’t get up to go to bathroom during a service. 24. Don’t bring knives of ANY type on church property. 25. Don’t be late for a service of function. 26. Don’t park alongside the left side of the sanctuary unless you are approved. 27. Don’t park in the spaces closest to the back steps. Those are reserved for parents with infants. 28. Don’t park in the first spot along the front sidewalk. That is reserved for those on watch. 29. Don’t park along the street. Use the field only when not raining. 30. Don’t park on the drive to the school. (unless approved for that service.) 31. Don’t park in the first handicap space unless approved. 32. Don’t park under the awning and leave your car running. 33. Don’t speed when driving around the church. 34. Don’t go opposite to the accepted traffic flow of counter-clockwise. It causes confusion. 35. Don’t be on your cell phone when approaching the school. 36. Don’t drive your car with expired tags. You will be reminded. 37. Men: Don’t wear a color of dress shirt except white or light blue. 38. Women: Don’t get your heart set on a dress until you check with others to see of anyone else has that dress. You may need to return yours. 39. Don’t “check out” during the singing. 40. Don’t look around at others when you are supposed to be singing. 41. Don’t close your eyes when singing. You could give over to a “religious devil”. 42. Don’t stare at visitors. 43. Don’t bring your cell phone into a service. Exceptions are rare and you will be told when you can bring your phone into the service. 44. Don’t take pictures during a regular service. 45. Don’t make your own recording of a service. 46. Don’t bring visitors unless you tell someone in the office so they can tell Jane. 47. Don’t take pictures of Jane of other members unless you are given permission. 48. Don’t be loose with your camera at any time. 49. Don’t put large amounts of cash in the offering unless it is in an envelope. 50. Don’t complain when the offering plates are passed more than once. 51. Don’t allow your toddlers to eat in the sanctuary. 52. Don’t bring snacks of dark drinks or chocolate. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 3 53. Don’t chew gum in the sanctuary. 54. Don’t fall asleep during the services. If you get tired, take your Bible and stand –up in the back of the sanctuary. 55. Don’t wear muddy shoes or boots into the sanctuary, leave them at the door-outside. 56. Don’t leave your tissues after services. Place them in the trash. 57. Don’t leave coats, Bibles or personal belongings in the sanctuary. It gets locked after each service. 58. Don’t touch the thermostats in the church unless you are approved. 59. Don’t wear jeans. (exception may be for construction work..maybe..) 60. Don’t wear shorts. 61. Don’t wear sleeveless dresses or tops. 62. Don’t wear dresses above the knees. 63. Don’t wear a bathing suit without having it covered with long shorts (below the knees) and a dark t-shirt. 64. Don’t wear cargo pants. 65. Don’t wear or own anything with Nike® on it. Nothing. 66. Don’t wear black tennis shoes. 67. Don’t wear high-cut, boot-like tennis shoes. 68. Men: don’t wear solid white tennis shoes. 69. Don’t wear a baseball cap sideways or backwards. 70. Don’t wear t-shirts with slogans or pictures. 71. Don’t wear “muscle t-shirts”. 72. Men: Don’t leave the house without a white t-shirt on under your top shirt. 73. Don’t go swimming with boys and girls together. 74. Don’t leave the pools toy out when you are done using the pool. 75. Don’t go outside without sunscreen. (daily) 76. Men: Don’t allow facial hair to grow. No beards, of any type. No “pork chop” sideburns. 77. Men: Don’t let your hair get long or unkempt. 78. Don’t interview for a job unless it is “under authority”. 79. Don’t accept a job unless you check it out with authority. 80. Don’t make plans for college unless you have Jane check it out. 81. Don’t sign-up for classes unless Jane Whaley or leadership checks out your schedule. 82. Don’t buy a house unless Jane Whaley can check it out. 83. Don’t even make an offer on a house unless Jane can “checkout” and “get a feel” for the neighborhood. 84. Don’t decorate your house unless Jane or her helper can help you. 85. Don’t buy a car without checking with Sam first. 86. Don’t sell a car or truck without checking with Sam first. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 4 87. Don’t get major repairs done without checking with Sam. 88. Don’t buy insurance without checking with the approved church source person for insurance. 89. Don’t plan a vacation or time away with your family unless you check-it out with Jane. 90. Don’t assume you can go to the funeral or a wedding of a family member without checking it out and/or someone from the church going with you. 91. Don’t celebrate Christmas. 92. Don’t give gifts to others unless you are “under authority”. 93. Don’t celebrate Easter. 94. Don’t celebrate other holidays. 95. Don’t eat turkey on Thanksgiving. 96. Don’t celebrate your birthday or others in your family or group of friends or co-workers. 97. Don’t celebrate wedding anniversaries. 98. Don’t go hunting. 99. Don’t go fishing. (well unless it is on an approved “ministry” trip) 100. Don’t hunt or fish just for sport. 101. Don’t have bumper stickers on your car. (Political season is an exception.) 102. Don’t have “dingle dangles” hanging from your rearview mirror. 103. Don’t have a slogan license plate on the front of your car. 104. Don’t buy or drive a “race car” looking car. 105. Don’t play games on your computer. Erase/delete the games. 106. Don’t play games on your cell phone. Erase/delete them. 107. Don’t own or use a “game boy” or other hand held electronic game device. 108. Don’t play with regular playing cards. 109. Don’t play “hide and go seek”. 110. Don’t play Monoploy®. 111. Don’t play football. 112. Don’t ride in the back of a pick-up truck. 113. Don’t play ping pong. 114. Don’t play pool. 115. Don’t play or imitate an “air guitar”. 116. Don’t play music without singing the words. 117. Don’t whistle. 118. Don’t let WOFF children play with children outside of WOFF. 119. Don’t let children make animal sounds. (maybe,,) 120. Don’t let children play toy musical instruments. (maybe…) 121. Don’t forget to read your Bible before you go to bed. 122. Don’t let children play with camping toys. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 5 123. Don’t let children play with “play tools”. 124. Don’t let children have Bibles with stories and pictures of Jesus. (maybe..) 125. Don’t be late for anything. Be early. 126. Don’t iron double creases in your pants. 127. Men: Don’t use urinals that are not enclosed. 128. Don’t store personal garments unless they are folded neatly in the drawer. 129. Don’t go to tanning beds. 130. Don’t ride motorcycles. 131. Don’t ride ATV’s or dirt bikes. 132. Men: African American- Don’t shave your head bald. 133. Don’t start a relationship without checking it out with Jane Whaley. 134. Don’t decide who you will marry without checking it out with Jane. 135. Don’t talk to the other person who you are in relationship with unless someone is listening and “guarding the conversation”. 136. Don’t talk loose and joke around. Don’t be foolish. 137. Don’t complain about the list of “don’ts”. 138. Don’t place the toilet paper on the roll unless it rolls over the top. 139. Don’t speak to those who have left unless you ask Jane. 140. Don’t ask anyone but Jane about those who have not been seen lately in services. 141. Don’t go in the sanctuary with “sin in your heart”, deal with it before service. 142. Don’t expect someone else to clean-up your mess. 143. Don’t back-talk or give excuses for your sin. 144. Don’t attack those in authority. 145. Don’t question Jane’s authority to run WOFF. We hope you will be with us for many years to come. Don’t worry about memorizing this list. When you violate a “don’t”, you will be told-“We don’t do that”.

What is "Cheerwine" (R)? and now I want some. 

Cheerwine is a local NC soft drink! It's regionally well known but expanding slowly I think. It's black cherry and very bubbly. I personally don't love it, but many people do. 

(Another regional drink is Sun Drop. Have you ever had it? Like Mountain Dew but better, IMO, but has a lot of caffeine in it, as the rumor goes. Often made at diner-style places into a cherry-lemon Sun Drop drink.)

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With all of those mandatory church meetings, you maybe looking for a nice church outfit...

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With all of those mandatory church meetings, you maybe looking for a nice church outfit...

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I think I need this shirt. 

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With all of those mandatory church meetings, you maybe looking for a nice church outfit...

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But first you have to check with the other women to make sure they don't have it or else you might be forced to return it! :)

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The end of my family’s time in a cult had a list of “don’t” that was comparable. Our list included things like “daydreaming” and “family history of disease” though. It takes years to get to that point though, someone walking in off the street wouldn’t be given something like this. 
I wish I could be shocked by this. 

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Funnily  enough, most of the gender restrictive clothing and hairstyle rules were for men only. That is a refreshing change of pace from the bizarre fixation so many groups have on micromanaging women. 

 

Men must always wear a white T-Shirt under their officially sanctioned outer-shirt. Maybe Jane has some sort of chest hair kink?
 

Perhaps chest hair gets her all “wound up and flustered. ” Does she get all Lust-filled if she  sees little curly chest hairs sneaking out of men’s tops. 

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3 hours ago, quiversR4hunting said:

Before they scrub their page...here is a list of the rules - (Because it was in a pdf, I was only able to copy and paste it so it isn't the best readable copy.)

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Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 1 Let us take this opportunity to thank you for considering membership in Word of Faith Fellowship. Jane Whaley approved of your membership and asked that you be given this “New Member Handout”. In this handout, we will list a few of the very important rules- “do’s” and “don’ts”. Your enjoyment of your time with us will mainly be determined on how well you can keep these rules. Do’s1. You will be required to attend every service. If for some reason unforeseen at this time, you miss a service; you will be required to listen to the tape at the church. (Death, severe illness and surgery may be considered excused absences.) 2. You will be required to tithe (10% of your gross earnings) and give offerings. Jane will check your records from time to time. 3. You will be required to smile on command. This is called “keeping your happy face”. 4. You will be required to participate in group work projects. Enjoy it. We have need of many skills. 5. After each service, you will be required to clean the church and fellowship hall on a rotating basis. Don’ts – (this is a partial “living” list… at times, it takes on a life of its own, continuing to grow..) 1. Don’t drink alcohol. (includes beer, wine or liquor) 2. Don’t cook with alcohol. 3. Don’t eat at places that serve alcohol. 4. Don’t drink “Root beer”. 5. Don’t drink Cheerwine®. 6. Don’t drink diet Cheerwine®. 7. Don’t drink ginger ale. 8. Don’t smoke cigarettes. 9. Don’t dip snuff. 10. Don’t use chew tobacco. 11. Don’t associate willingly with those that do use tobacco. 12. Don’t watch movies. (Unless Jane gives approval.) 13. Don’t watch videos in your cars! 14. Don’t enter a movie theater- (unless Jane gives approval.) 15. Don’t read newspapers. Not even the headlines. 16. Don’t listen to the radio. 17. Don’t read or handle magazines. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 2 18. Don’t watch television. (except when allowed at church) 19. Don’t read books that are not approved by leadership. 20. Don’t read your Bible, too much. (Amplified version is acceptable) 21. Don’t take notes during the services. Only record scripture references. 22. Don’t forget to go to bathroom before the service. 23. Don’t get up to go to bathroom during a service. 24. Don’t bring knives of ANY type on church property. 25. Don’t be late for a service of function. 26. Don’t park alongside the left side of the sanctuary unless you are approved. 27. Don’t park in the spaces closest to the back steps. Those are reserved for parents with infants. 28. Don’t park in the first spot along the front sidewalk. That is reserved for those on watch. 29. Don’t park along the street. Use the field only when not raining. 30. Don’t park on the drive to the school. (unless approved for that service.) 31. Don’t park in the first handicap space unless approved. 32. Don’t park under the awning and leave your car running. 33. Don’t speed when driving around the church. 34. Don’t go opposite to the accepted traffic flow of counter-clockwise. It causes confusion. 35. Don’t be on your cell phone when approaching the school. 36. Don’t drive your car with expired tags. You will be reminded. 37. Men: Don’t wear a color of dress shirt except white or light blue. 38. Women: Don’t get your heart set on a dress until you check with others to see of anyone else has that dress. You may need to return yours. 39. Don’t “check out” during the singing. 40. Don’t look around at others when you are supposed to be singing. 41. Don’t close your eyes when singing. You could give over to a “religious devil”. 42. Don’t stare at visitors. 43. Don’t bring your cell phone into a service. Exceptions are rare and you will be told when you can bring your phone into the service. 44. Don’t take pictures during a regular service. 45. Don’t make your own recording of a service. 46. Don’t bring visitors unless you tell someone in the office so they can tell Jane. 47. Don’t take pictures of Jane of other members unless you are given permission. 48. Don’t be loose with your camera at any time. 49. Don’t put large amounts of cash in the offering unless it is in an envelope. 50. Don’t complain when the offering plates are passed more than once. 51. Don’t allow your toddlers to eat in the sanctuary. 52. Don’t bring snacks of dark drinks or chocolate. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 3 53. Don’t chew gum in the sanctuary. 54. Don’t fall asleep during the services. If you get tired, take your Bible and stand –up in the back of the sanctuary. 55. Don’t wear muddy shoes or boots into the sanctuary, leave them at the door-outside. 56. Don’t leave your tissues after services. Place them in the trash. 57. Don’t leave coats, Bibles or personal belongings in the sanctuary. It gets locked after each service. 58. Don’t touch the thermostats in the church unless you are approved. 59. Don’t wear jeans. (exception may be for construction work..maybe..) 60. Don’t wear shorts. 61. Don’t wear sleeveless dresses or tops. 62. Don’t wear dresses above the knees. 63. Don’t wear a bathing suit without having it covered with long shorts (below the knees) and a dark t-shirt. 64. Don’t wear cargo pants. 65. Don’t wear or own anything with Nike® on it. Nothing. 66. Don’t wear black tennis shoes. 67. Don’t wear high-cut, boot-like tennis shoes. 68. Men: don’t wear solid white tennis shoes. 69. Don’t wear a baseball cap sideways or backwards. 70. Don’t wear t-shirts with slogans or pictures. 71. Don’t wear “muscle t-shirts”. 72. Men: Don’t leave the house without a white t-shirt on under your top shirt. 73. Don’t go swimming with boys and girls together. 74. Don’t leave the pools toy out when you are done using the pool. 75. Don’t go outside without sunscreen. (daily) 76. Men: Don’t allow facial hair to grow. No beards, of any type. No “pork chop” sideburns. 77. Men: Don’t let your hair get long or unkempt. 78. Don’t interview for a job unless it is “under authority”. 79. Don’t accept a job unless you check it out with authority. 80. Don’t make plans for college unless you have Jane check it out. 81. Don’t sign-up for classes unless Jane Whaley or leadership checks out your schedule. 82. Don’t buy a house unless Jane Whaley can check it out. 83. Don’t even make an offer on a house unless Jane can “checkout” and “get a feel” for the neighborhood. 84. Don’t decorate your house unless Jane or her helper can help you. 85. Don’t buy a car without checking with Sam first. 86. Don’t sell a car or truck without checking with Sam first. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 4 87. Don’t get major repairs done without checking with Sam. 88. Don’t buy insurance without checking with the approved church source person for insurance. 89. Don’t plan a vacation or time away with your family unless you check-it out with Jane. 90. Don’t assume you can go to the funeral or a wedding of a family member without checking it out and/or someone from the church going with you. 91. Don’t celebrate Christmas. 92. Don’t give gifts to others unless you are “under authority”. 93. Don’t celebrate Easter. 94. Don’t celebrate other holidays. 95. Don’t eat turkey on Thanksgiving. 96. Don’t celebrate your birthday or others in your family or group of friends or co-workers. 97. Don’t celebrate wedding anniversaries. 98. Don’t go hunting. 99. Don’t go fishing. (well unless it is on an approved “ministry” trip) 100. Don’t hunt or fish just for sport. 101. Don’t have bumper stickers on your car. (Political season is an exception.) 102. Don’t have “dingle dangles” hanging from your rearview mirror. 103. Don’t have a slogan license plate on the front of your car. 104. Don’t buy or drive a “race car” looking car. 105. Don’t play games on your computer. Erase/delete the games. 106. Don’t play games on your cell phone. Erase/delete them. 107. Don’t own or use a “game boy” or other hand held electronic game device. 108. Don’t play with regular playing cards. 109. Don’t play “hide and go seek”. 110. Don’t play Monoploy®. 111. Don’t play football. 112. Don’t ride in the back of a pick-up truck. 113. Don’t play ping pong. 114. Don’t play pool. 115. Don’t play or imitate an “air guitar”. 116. Don’t play music without singing the words. 117. Don’t whistle. 118. Don’t let WOFF children play with children outside of WOFF. 119. Don’t let children make animal sounds. (maybe,,) 120. Don’t let children play toy musical instruments. (maybe…) 121. Don’t forget to read your Bible before you go to bed. 122. Don’t let children play with camping toys. Welcome To Word of Faith Fellowship 5 123. Don’t let children play with “play tools”. 124. Don’t let children have Bibles with stories and pictures of Jesus. (maybe..) 125. Don’t be late for anything. Be early. 126. Don’t iron double creases in your pants. 127. Men: Don’t use urinals that are not enclosed. 128. Don’t store personal garments unless they are folded neatly in the drawer. 129. Don’t go to tanning beds. 130. Don’t ride motorcycles. 131. Don’t ride ATV’s or dirt bikes. 132. Men: African American- Don’t shave your head bald. 133. Don’t start a relationship without checking it out with Jane Whaley. 134. Don’t decide who you will marry without checking it out with Jane. 135. Don’t talk to the other person who you are in relationship with unless someone is listening and “guarding the conversation”. 136. Don’t talk loose and joke around. Don’t be foolish. 137. Don’t complain about the list of “don’ts”. 138. Don’t place the toilet paper on the roll unless it rolls over the top. 139. Don’t speak to those who have left unless you ask Jane. 140. Don’t ask anyone but Jane about those who have not been seen lately in services. 141. Don’t go in the sanctuary with “sin in your heart”, deal with it before service. 142. Don’t expect someone else to clean-up your mess. 143. Don’t back-talk or give excuses for your sin. 144. Don’t attack those in authority. 145. Don’t question Jane’s authority to run WOFF. We hope you will be with us for many years to come. Don’t worry about memorizing this list. When you violate a “don’t”, you will be told-“We don’t do that”.

What is "Cheerwine" (R)? and now I want some. 

I just finished reading the list you posted . My tablet can't bring up PDF files , for some reason .  I just wanted to say that I think that this may be the absolute most severe Bible based cult I have ever seen , maybe even worse than Remnant Fellowship . They hit every marker on the BITE model , old and new version alike . {  http://old.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php , https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/ }  Jane Whaley , and her cohorts in leadership , have made themselves into " super apostles " . { https://www.cultwatch.com/superapostles.html , https://www.gotquestions.org/super-apostles.html }   

 

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With all of those mandatory church meetings, you maybe looking for a nice church outfit...

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That wouldn't be allowed , as printed t-shirts are banned .  

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70. Don’t wear t-shirts with slogans or pictures 

 

18 minutes ago, Bassett Lady said:

Funnily  enough, most of the gender restrictive clothing and hairstyle rules were for men only. That is a refreshing change of pace from the bizarre fixation so many groups have on micromanaging women. 

 

Men must always wear a white T-Shirt under their officially sanctioned outer-shirt. Maybe Jane has some sort of chest hair kink?
 

Perhaps chest hair gets her all “wound up and flustered. ” Does she get all Lust-filled if she  sees little curly chest hairs sneaking out of men’s tops. 

Here are all of the rules regarding " outward holiness" standards of dress , as they pertain to women , except for not wearing the same outfit as another woman , for whatever reason .  

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 60. Don’t wear shorts. 61. Don’t wear sleeveless dresses or tops. 62. Don’t wear dresses above the knees. 63. Don’t wear a bathing suit without having it covered with long shorts (below the knees) and a dark t-shirt. 64. Don’t wear cargo pants. 65. Don’t wear or own anything with Nike® on it. Nothing. 66. Don’t wear black tennis shoes. 67. Don’t wear high-cut, boot-like tennis shoes

Jane Whaley makes Regina George seem laid back by comparison .  https://www.shmoop.com/mean-girls/the-plastics-rules-symbol.html  

 

 

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So, I was onboard with everything  until the No “Game Boy” rule.  Sure, I have to check with Jane before I attend a funeral—but to live without my 30 year old colorless gaming system—no, thank you.

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5 hours ago, quiversR4hunting said:

137. Don’t complain about the list of “don’ts”.

And that'd be me, every day. Holy crap that list veers between creepy as hell and kind of hilarious.

That Jane woman seriously has some issues going.

Also I notice the list doesn't include social media... so if I'm scrolling through Facebook and a news item comes up that's totally fine, right?

Seriously the no reading bit would be where I noped out. Not even the Bible ffs.

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2 hours ago, Bassett Lady said:

Funnily  enough, most of the gender restrictive clothing and hairstyle rules were for men only. That is a refreshing change of pace from the bizarre fixation so many groups have on micromanaging women. 

 

Men must always wear a white T-Shirt under their officially sanctioned outer-shirt. Maybe Jane has some sort of chest hair kink?
 

Perhaps chest hair gets her all “wound up and flustered. ” Does she get all Lust-filled if she  sees little curly chest hairs sneaking out of men’s tops. 

I think it’s because the cult leader is a woman. The other female cult leader we talk about on FJ is Gwen. And she has a lot of clothing requirements as well. She makes everyone wear certain colors to events. No matter their age, sex, or finances. All men in the cult likely own a tuxedo because they are forced to dress in black tie for so many events.

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Yeah , most other cult leaders have been men . Even the vast majority of church heads in general have been male .  At least that's one glass ceiling that is slowly breaking , I suppose . 

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21 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Cheerwine is a local NC soft drink! It's regionally well known but expanding slowly I think. It's black cherry and very bubbly. I personally don't love it, but many people do. 

(Another regional drink is Sun Drop. Have you ever had it? Like Mountain Dew but better, IMO, but has a lot of caffeine in it, as the rumor goes. Often made at diner-style places into a cherry-lemon Sun Drop drink.)

I’ve seen Sun Drop at our local Walmart(Upstate New York).

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ok folks 

this shit is going on "right yonder down the mountain" from me.  I remember hearing about it, but they must be veerrryyyy secretive now.  It doesn't surprise me that some cult members are part law enforcement- It also doesn't surprise me that this  Jane person is getting away with this horror. This is the bible belt, and fundamentals and extremists thrive here. 

I'm tempted to go to a service to see how they treat a  newcomer.  I do, however, have a healthy fear of that environment. I'm still, 20 years later,  recovering from an abusive relationship with a religious zealot and there are still triggers.   I really think these people are in a religious psychosis of some sort..

Now, if Bro Gary comes to these here parts, you betcha I'm going to THAT service!  

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3 minutes ago, FundMe said:

I'm tempted to go to a service to see how they treat a  newcomer.  

Don't.  I just started reading the book today but they said that you just can't drop in.  You have to be invited by a member and they guard the road to the entryway.

They believe that there are evil demons around us and they cause us to sin.  If you see someone sinning and don't try to stop it or tell people about it, they think you're guilty of that same sin as well.  That explains how they trained everyone to snitch.  Also, Jane Whaley made them turn off their televisions around the time that Inside Edition did an expose.  She was afraid people would find out the truth so that's where that rule came from

It's an interesting read.  I'll update when I'm deeper into it.

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30 minutes ago, Xan said:

Don't.  I just started reading the book today but they said that you just can't drop in.  You have to be invited by a member and they guard the road to the entryway.

They believe that there are evil demons around us and they cause us to sin.  If you see someone sinning and don't try to stop it or tell people about it, they think you're guilty of that same sin as well.  That explains how they trained everyone to snitch.  Also, Jane Whaley made them turn off their televisions around the time that Inside Edition did an expose.  She was afraid people would find out the truth so that's where that rule came from

It's an interesting read.  I'll update when I'm deeper into it.

OK, thanks! So isolation is one her weapons. Makes perfect sense to me!!

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12 hours ago, Xan said:

and they guard the road to the entryway.

I was just going to ask what this "don't" was  :" 28.Don’t park in the first spot along the front sidewalk. That is reserved for those on watch". but I think you just answered it for me!  I was wondering what the heck being "on watch" was...who are they watching for? But I guess it's any outsider...

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4 minutes ago, viii said:

@Xan is the book good? I’m tempted to read it but it’s a bit pricey. 

I'm not that far into it yet.  So far it's an interesting read but I'm a sucker for books about cults and about fundies in general.  Let me get to about the halfway point and I'll let you know if it was worth what I paid.

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15 hours ago, Xan said:

Don't.  I just started reading the book today but they said that you just can't drop in.  You have to be invited by a member and they guard the road to the entryway.

? Damn. Ok kids, first HUUUGE red flag of any church is it being invite only. 

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1 hour ago, Queeen Victoria said:

Can we put Jane, Lori Alexander and Gwen Shamblin in a WWE match?

I’d say we should include Jill Rodrigues, but she’d be afraid of smudging her eyeliner.

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