Mills Family 5: YouTube Really Is Optional

[Palimpsest]

26 minutes ago, Mom2Bubby said:

If it’s ok I can just post it here.  Not sure if that’s allowed? 

It is fine to post screenshots of things that have been made public, even if they have been edited later.  Tom's original youtube title was public.

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[Tekas_76]

Poor Judah, at the last live he commented on the live chat: "the pain of knowing how many cavities I had..."

Like he knows that part of the fault for having so many cavities was the negligence of his parents, too much candy and no healthcare, no dentists, nothing at all. The result was his suffering.

One of Tom's leghumpers said: "Is Judah brooding too? lol" Like the kid cannot say the truth at all, or even complain a bit...

[AuntCloud]

Tom’s behaviour is quickly devolving to Kevin at Home Alone levels. Moms gone, let’s partaaaaaaaay.

When Andrea was alive the driving force behind their lives was her untreated mental illness and need to control. Now it’s Tom’s need to live like a 15 year old who believes he is immortal and invincible and rules were made specifically to annoy him. Poor kids. 

[Itsjustme]

In the video Q & A someone asked Tom if he would be at Eden's birthday party that Amy and Bethany were having for her . Tom replied "I may not actually show up, I'll probably be working."  "I'll see if I can swing some time off". Normally the kids always have parties when I'm working" .  Did anyone hear the violins playing? Since he's self employed could he not do a little rearranging of work time or try not to schedule anything for a couple of hours that day??  The things he whines about are things every day people deal with all the time.  They adapt, they figure something out.  

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[FreeFundiesKids]

Did someone else hear him saying that he has another lady that he is talking to?? Or I am mishearing things?? From last night's live.

Edited February 24, 2020 by FreeFundiesKids
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[Mom2Bubby]

2 hours ago, FreeFundiesKids said:

Did someone else hear him saying that he has another lady that he is talking to?? Or I am mishearing things?? From last night's live.

Yep, someone asked if he was talking to someone special and he said yes he was but that was all he would say. He had that “special smirk” that he always gets when there is someone he is “talking to”  and he was texting with her during the live. Someone commented he had a big smile and he said he guessed that was “his tell”. 
Another commenter asked where Claudia and Sophia were and he said in the bathtub.
Hannah was in the living room with Asher. Judah was getting lots of comments that he was cute and people were comparing his hairstyle to James Dean. He didn’t know who that was so Tom showed him a photo of James Dean. 

Eden sat there for awhile during chat, as well as Thomas( who was moderating). Someone asked Thomas where he met girls and he said he really didn’t. Tom said, “ he’s available”. 
Solomon was on toms lap and in front of the camera most of the time. He was wearing pajamas that looked like a character in a game. Tom had him in his lap but in my opinion seemed annoyed with him. (Taking too much attention away from Tom I suppose.)
Quite a boring live to be honest. I wasn’t able to read the chat so I’m not sure what comments were made other than the ones Tom answered. 
Judah did talk about his cavities and such. Tom said he never took very good of his teeth growing up, and although he’s never had a cavity he did have braces. Tom said he would take any kids to the dentist that expressed an interest as long as they had enough money  (hint hint). Someone asked if the kids had ever been to an eye dr and he said no, but he was sure Andrea had checked their eyesight and he had never heard of any issues so they must be fine.(I didn’t realize Andrea was a dr) . 

Lots of people wishing Eden an early happy birthday. Tom said he only had a couple jobs on Monday but they were in two completely different directions. He said he wanted to be home for Edens party but he wasn’t sure he would make it. He said he should have planned better to make sure he was there. He said it was a “girl party” and Andreas sisters had it covered so he guessed it would be ok if he didn’t make it in time. 
Hannah was in just a diaper at first but Asher dressed her in jammies and Tom showed off her hairdo. Asher put it all up on top of her head like rabbit ears. 
I can’t think of anything else that was said at this point. Almost fell asleep watching it. 

 

2 hours ago, FreeFundiesKids said:

Did someone else hear him saying that he has another lady that he is talking to?? Or I am mishearing things?? From last night's live.

 

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[thoughtful]

17 minutes ago, Mom2Bubby said:

Tom said he would take any kids to the dentist that expressed an interest as long as they had enough money  (hint hint). Someone asked if the kids had ever been to an eye dr and he said no, but he was sure Andrea had checked their eyesight and he had never heard of any issues so they must be fine

As someone who would have had a lot of pain without the help of dentists, and who would have had a much more difficult life without the work of wonderful ophthalmologists, this makes me livid.

Take your children to the dentist, doctor and optometrist, Tom. Don't wait for them to ask.

Oh, and have them wear weather-appropriate clothing and shoes, and buckle their seatbelts on the way to the appointments.

[Pleiades_06]

3 minutes ago, thoughtful said:

As someone who would have had a lot of pain without the help of dentists, and who would have had a much more difficult life without the work of wonderful ophthalmologists, this makes me livid.

Take your children to the dentist, doctor and optometrist, Tom. Don't wait for them to ask.

Oh, and have them wear weather-appropriate clothing and shoes, and buckle their seatbelts on the way to the appointments.

The eyesight comment is KILLING me. How the fuck did she think she was qualified to check their sight? 

[formergothardite]

4 minutes ago, Pleiades_06 said:

. How the fuck did she think she was qualified to check their sight? 

I can't remember the video she talked about it, but she for sure thought she was just as good as a doctor and could do eye check ups for the children. 

Tom mentioned having enough money for dental care, I wonder if the harsh reality of Andrea's child neglect is starting to sink in. They can easily go straight through all the Go Fund me money just fixing the teeth of the children. Repairing the mouths of all those children is going to cost a small fortune. 

[PotsPansPatriarchy]

23 hours ago, Blair Warner’s hair said:

Hilarious! And pretty accurate.

[Itsjustme]

36 minutes ago, Mom2Bubby said:

someone asked if he was talking to someone special and he said yes he was but that was all he would say. He had that “special smirk” that he always gets when there is someone he is “talking to”  and he was texting with her during the live. Someone commented he had a big smile and he said he guessed that was “his tell”. 

Oh brother...no wonder he has been so smug and arrogant with the subscribers. He always has this overblown confidence when he has a woman. If it doesn't work out he'll be back on doing late night lives and telling everyone how how lonely he is and how much it helps to talk with everyone. He's that friend who only has anything to do with you when they don't have a girlfriend/boyfriend. It's pathetic. He's in his 40's for gosh sakes, stop acting like a teenage boy with raging hormones.  I hope people see through him, how he just uses the you tube community to his advantage.

Besides I thought he hasn't had time to do anything?? He sure finds time to chat up women, this is like what number three or four that we know of??? And lets talk about the women. What kind of woman would want to start anything with a guy who just lost his wife? It would seem disrespectful to her memory and to those kids. Why would you want to take away the attention of their father, the only thing they have right now?? What is so bad about waiting a couple of years until the kids start to feel more comfortable?? Of all things you throw another factor into the equation when you haven't even figured out to handle things yet!  I see Tom being led down the wrong path, he's already losing his way.

Didn't he say he had a problem too with being addicted to video games? So the guy has a problem with impulse control? When people said he was jumping into thinking about getting married again 2 1/2 months after Andrea died, he said he does everything quickly. Well, that's a person who doesn't really think things out before doing. Ugh...

 

[Itsjustme]

25 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

Tom mentioned having enough money for dental care, I wonder if the harsh reality of Andrea's child neglect is starting to sink in.

It's sad... One night during a live people were bringing up dental care and Tom was just saying if they want to then he would do it but that Andrea had done a good job with taking care of it. Thomas then said No, it's true, II had a really big cavity that was bothering me and it went away after a while when she "treated" it" 

Big sigh.....yes becasue probably the nerve is dead and he's going to need a root canal or even have to have it pulled later down the road. There is even the risk of an abscess. 

[apandaaries]

1 hour ago, Pleiades_06 said:

The eyesight comment is KILLING me. How the fuck did she think she was qualified to check their sight? 

The same way she thought she was qualified to “fix” cavities: A special combination of hubris and ignorance.

[Queen Of Hearts]

Poor creepy Rachel Day must be devastated that Tom has a new lady love.

[AliceInFundyland]

If expressing interest was how you went about going to the dentist, nobody would have teeth.

[PotsPansPatriarchy]

58 minutes ago, Queen Of Hearts said:

Poor creepy Rachel Day must be devastated that Tom has a new lady love.

Doubt it. She still thinks she has a chance, I bet. Or maybe just plans to kill the competition. 

[Ozlsn]

5 hours ago, Itsjustme said:

I see Tom being led down the wrong path, he's already losing his way.

I see Tom happily trotting down it with no pressure from anyone. He's 40 ffs. You might think by this age and with this many kids he might have a clue about parenting and, you know, being a grown up. But he doesn't because he was basically parented by Andrea - and that is what he's trying to get back to. He wants someone to pick up where she left off so he can go back to doing the fun stuff - no groceries, no cleaning, no kids demanding his emotional energy. 

(And honestly he goes into relationships with the same maturity as Quinten Naugler - who at least has the excuse of being 19 and a lot more screwed up by his parents than Tom. Also he appears to be a harder worker than Tom.)

I'm glad the aunts and other extended family are doing stuff for the kids. I really hope some of them are able to offer longer term support so these kids can move forward. Honestly it's the first birthday since their mom died and he can't work around making an appearance at the party? Ffs.

[can'tstopwatching]

2 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

Honestly it's the first birthday since their mom died and he can't work around making an appearance at the party? Ffs.

They’ve had a few kids’ birthdays since she died, but I believe Tom was around for all of them. Super weird to not realize he shouldn’t schedule his work around Eden’s party. Maybe not cancel the whole day but leave a few hours open for the party. And I can see Eden having a particularly hard time without her mom on her birthday.

[Ozlsn]

Oops, I meant to write "it's her first birthday". If Tom were working two jobs to keep them housed and fed, or seemed likely to come home and make her feel special and loved then I'd understand. But he just doesn't come across as doing that.

[Petronella]

1 hour ago, can'tstopwatching said:

Super weird to not realize he shouldn’t schedule his work around Eden’s party.

I'm confused why the party wasn't scheduled around his work. Does he have an erratic schedule so that wasn't possible? I'm just confused by the whole situation.

[Mom2Bubby]

11 hours ago, Itsjustme said:

Oh brother...no wonder he has been so smug and arrogant with the subscribers. He always has this overblown confidence when he has a woman. If it doesn't work out he'll be back on doing late night lives and telling everyone how how lonely he is and how much it helps to talk with everyone. He's that friend who only has anything to do with you when they don't have a girlfriend/boyfriend. It's pathetic. He's in his 40's for gosh sakes, stop acting like a teenage boy with raging hormones.  I hope people see through him, how he just uses the you tube community to his advantage.

Besides I thought he hasn't had time to do anything?? He sure finds time to chat up women, this is like what number three or four that we know of??? And lets talk about the women. What kind of woman would want to start anything with a guy who just lost his wife? It would seem disrespectful to her memory and to those kids. Why would you want to take away the attention of their father, the only thing they have right now?? What is so bad about waiting a couple of years until the kids start to feel more comfortable?? Of all things you throw another factor into the equation when you haven't even figured out to handle things yet!  I see Tom being led down the wrong path, he's already losing his way.

Didn't he say he had a problem too with being addicted to video games? So the guy has a problem with impulse control? When people said he was jumping into thinking about getting married again 2 1/2 months after Andrea died, he said he does everything quickly. Well, that's a person who doesn't really think things out before doing. Ugh...

 

I remember hearing something about him being addicted to either video games or porn. I wish I could remember where I heard it. Seems like it was on this forum that someone was talking about it but I could be wrong. It might have been another one. I’d say he has a definite problem with impulse control. And yes, he is such a man child. I agree with the poster who said he just wants someone to do what Andrea used to do so that he can go back to doing whatever he wanted. 
Here’s the response from Ratchet Face in the comments section from the “direction of the channel” video. (sorry,  I’m feeling crabby today and don’t usually pick on peoples appearances). 

 

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[Mom2Bubby]

2 hours ago, Petronella said:

I'm confused why the party wasn't scheduled around his work. Does he have an erratic schedule so that wasn't possible? I'm just confused by the whole situation.

And he even said in the video that he only had two jobs on her birthday.  He should have scheduled better. But it’s Eden, who he very seldom seems to have anything to say to, unless he is asking her a question one of his viewers wants an answer to. It’s just my opinion but it seems like he only has time for the older boys and maybe Sophia. The rest, in my opinion, just seem to be a nuisance to him. He doesn’t seem to interact much with the littles unless it’s to garner attention from his fans. And he interacted even less when Andrea was alive. (At least from what we were shown in videos). All just my opinion of course. 
Hell, he doesn’t even rock Hannah to sleep or cuddle her when she’s tired. Asher does. He doesn’t give Sophia and Claudia their baths, Justus does( he stated this is a previous video), he doesn’t make sure the littles are fed, he leaves it up to the older boys. He doesn’t do the housework, Asher and Judah seem to do most of it. He plays at running the household, but so much of it falls on the shoulders of the older boys (mainly Asher and Judah). Thomas works so he’s not around as much, but Asher and Judah are the ones who do the most. Tom has said in a previous video that Asher and Judah are the ones who are always working around the house. Tom even said that Thomas has been slacking on helping around the house and in his school work. Tom said that’s partly why he wants to redo the chore chart. Plus he said he feels the littles could do more than Andrea had them doing now that they are a little older. (Just more for Tom not to have to do in my opinion). 
I just don’t get his fans who say that everyone needs to Keep donating to this family. They lost their mom so they need help financially. I don’t believe it myself. First of all, no amount of money is going to bring their mom back. Secondly, while I’m sure the funds have helped them, the truth is, because of that money(70k in just the go fund me), they are better off than they have ever been. He paid off his mortgage, so no payment there anymore. He isn’t spending as much on groceries be because he has two stores with credits over 2k.and all the gift cards to Walmart. All of Andreas hospital bills are paid off. He’s feeding his kids crap food from the stores with the credit accounts. Everyone has been sending clothes for the kids and snacks and candy. I fail to see how it has been harder financially for them. Tom has more money now than he’s probably ever had in his life. One thing he is doing right is adding a second bathroom. But I don’t see much else he is doing to benefit those kids. Gah, I need to get a life as this asshat makes me stressed. I feel so much for what those kids are going through. I just wish he’d wake up and grow up. But if he didn’t do either when his wife died I don’t see him ever doing it. 

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[PotsPansPatriarchy]

1 hour ago, Mom2Bubby said:

I remember hearing something about him being addicted to either video games or porn. I wish I could remember where I heard it. Seems like it was on this forum that someone was talking about it but I could be wrong. It might have been another one. I’d say he has a definite problem with impulse control. And yes, he is such a man child. I agree with the poster who said he just wants someone to do what Andrea used to do so that he can go back to doing whatever he wanted. 
Here’s the response from Ratchet Face in the comments section from the “direction of the channel” video. (sorry,  I’m feeling crabby today and don’t usually pick on peoples appearances). 

 

She said “Ratchet Face” ?

[justlooking]

On 2/21/2020 at 12:44 PM, PotsPansPatriarchy said:

Not a damn thing. But Tom will use anything to justify being a shit parent and endangering his kids.

So someone actually said something to him about Hanna being barefoot?  I missed that! I'm so GLAD.... At least he didn't get away with it without someone telling him!  OMG, he infuriates me so much........It's a small store - WTF???? 

[PotsPansPatriarchy]

2 minutes ago, justlooking said:

So someone actually said something to him about Hanna being barefoot?  I missed that! I'm so GLAD.... At least he didn't get away with it without someone telling him!  OMG, he infuriates me so much........It's a small store - WTF???? 

I don’t think anyone at the store mentioned it to him, unfortunately.