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HerNameIsBuffy

John Shrader 19: FLYING VERMIN SCUM!

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Xan
7 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

But Esther and Anna need(ed) parents and rescuing and nothing.  If those two situations don't make you mount your white horse for your baby girls and grandkiddos than what does?.  

 

This exactly.  I wouldn't have let one of my daughters marry someone this crazy to begin with.  But, if I had and I found out that she was living with 7 kids in a pop-up camper in someone's back yard, I'd have been in my car going to save them.  And if I found out that my daughter was married to someone who molested his sisters, I'd be running to save her and her children.  The fact that Mike and Suzette have never saved any of their children makes them monsters.

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On 2/8/2020 at 4:32 PM, Palimpsest said:

I know I have shared such testimonies in the past, and many of those "testimonies" later were revealed to not be genuine, but I had much to learn about Africa and, no matter how careful I was with the Gospel, I was too eager to believe the professions of such men. I could not even fathom someone intentionally making a false profession of faith! Some of them I think truly were receptive to the message, but never had the genuine experience that "godly sorrow worketh repentance unto salvation...", and thus believed in their head, but not their "heart...unto righteousness."

We have now begun to be so careful before baptizing..

Well won't this be awkward when they bolt? 

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Some of John's first converts did appear genuine. It was when they realised that John is a false prophet that they walked away. I'm sure that has happened throughout his other-folk-funded holiday under the blue skies of Zambia and beyond. 

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DarkAnts
2 hours ago, DarkAnts said:

Making a child pick siblings to go to the movies is shitty. Take them all or find another activity to do.

Wrong thread sorry.

ETA - post in question moved to Naugler's thread.  

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Pleiades_06
39 minutes ago, DarkAnts said:

Wrong thread sorry.

Which thread was this intended for? It’s a great point!

ETA - post in question moved to Naugler's thread.

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HerNameIsBuffy
31 minutes ago, DarkAnts said:

Wrong thread sorry.

Let me know which thread you meant this for and I'll move it for you.

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DarkAnts
8 minutes ago, Pleiades_06 said:

Which thread was this intended for? It’s a great point!

Naugler thread. One of the kids picked three others to go to see a movie.

7 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Let me know which thread you meant this for and I'll move it for you.

Naugler thread. Thank you.

ETA - post in question moved to Naugler's thread.

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Howl

At some point in the last year, John blogged about and seemed to repent of, or at least have some awareness of, his pride and arrogance and how it affected people adversely.   That's obviously in the rear-view mirror. 

Sadly, he's incapable of self-reflection and personal growth.  Or he gets a glimpse of himself, realizes what's involved in personal growth and crawls right back under his True, Biblical, Literally Holier-Than-Thou,  missionary persona.  I think the true purpose of  Bro. John's religious fanaticism is to (like Stehovah) keep his demons at bay.  I hope it's working. 

 

On 2/11/2020 at 12:00 PM, Giraffe said:

Esther’s due mid-February, not Pris. 

Pregnancy count down begins about now!  Hope all goes well for Esther. 

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Palimpsest
2 hours ago, Howl said:

At some point in the last year, John blogged about and seemed to repent of, or at least have some awareness of, his pride and arrogance and how it affected people adversely.   That's obviously in the rear-view mirror.

I don't remember any of that in the last year (he's been rather inactive on FB).

However, at many points in the last 8 years (and counting) that I have been watching Shrader, he flagellates.  On a regular basis.  The flagellation alternates with bombast and self-satisfaction. 

When up against the wall, Johnny weeps copiously, bemoans his failings, metaphorically puts ashes on his head and dresses in sackcloth.  It usually indicates some "friend" calling him out decisively, or something going very wrong with his "mission." 

Like all his "converts" heading for the hills.

But, sadly, the putative self-examining stage never lasts for long.  Johnny's always back to his boastful and self-satisfied self in days.  He does it for dollars.

And Esther is due late February, per John's latest update.

I hope the "missionary daughter from Alaska" who may or may not be a qualified midwife is already there.  No local help this time for Esther.  Apparently that is their plan for the delivery of sprog #12.  I hope all goes well.

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8 hours ago, Palimpsest said:

I hope the "missionary daughter from Alaska" who may or may not be a qualified midwife is already there.  No local help this time for Esther.  Apparently that is their plan for the delivery of sprog #12. 

I'm wondering if they can't afford the local midwife this time. Or if John managed to alienate her enough she said no.

8 hours ago, Palimpsest said:

I hope all goes well.

Me too. The last pregnancy was how I fell down this rabbit hole, and that was stressful enough.

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Palimpsest
5 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

I'm wondering if they can't afford the local midwife this time. Or if John managed to alienate her enough she said no.

I doubt it is lack of money, given that they managed to get John's expensive back surgery completely paid for, and have been able to afford taking Nehemiah to hospitals in Lusaka.    I think they must have alienated the local midwives or perhaps no longer trust them.

The midwife they had for Stephen was a Mrs Phiri.  John tried very hard and unsuccessfully to convert her and her husband.  John stopped talking about them pretty quickly, but they found another national midwife for Isaiah. 

However, they had to have a "missionary midwife from Australia" to deliver Caleb.   Perhaps she is no longer around or they've alienated her too.  It seems really strange to have to fly someone in from Alaska, who presumably knows nothing about local resources or hospitals, to deliver #12.

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Xan

I think Esther is beginning to need help feeding and caring for all the kids and big kid John.  He got the midwife there through his fundamentalist channels and now she can help Esther because God knows John isn't going to.  We'll have to wait and see how long she stays after Esther delivers.

I keep wondering when all the locals are going to finally weary of John's shenanigans and quit indulging him.  Hasn't he reached saturation point yet on giving out chapters of the Bible? There can't be a home within 30 miles that doesn't have at least one of John's booklets.

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Palimpsest
1 minute ago, Xan said:

I keep wondering when all the locals are going to finally weary of John's shenanigans and quit indulging him.  Hasn't he reached saturation point yet on giving out chapters of the Bible? There can't be a home within 30 miles that doesn't have at least one of John's booklets.

But they can always use a new supply of toilet paper.

And anyway, John can always start converting wandering Scotsmen.

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I make no secret about my love for the Truth. Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, and the Word of God are all identified as the Truth. My love and commitment to the Truth has cost me friendships. I have been searching for men for years that have that same love for Truth. I have also been praying for years for God to bring me in contact with such men.

Enter Stephen the Scot.

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Last night I received these words from a man I have started meeting with here in Zambia. We met again yesterday. He's from Scotland, a heritage I share through my mother's father, but more than our shared heritage is a shared love for Truth.

Bless John's little heart.

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His testimony of salvation, out of the grip of a heroin addiction, is truly precious, as he basically locked himself away in his house with a Bible.

I simply cannot tell you how much these words thrilled my heart. Can't wait to see what the Lord does from here.

 

Truly precious.

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His messages:

"John I want to thank you for your time again. I have been thinking about what we have spoken about. I really appreciate that you took the time to explain things, and I actually want even more of your time... I don't want to sound selfish or something like that, but I do want to take advantage of your willingness to teach what you have learned over such a long period of time.

I have been trying to digest everything we have spoken about.

The truth is more important to me than anything in this life, I would sell everything I own for just a small piece of the truth. In fact I can't even find sleep right now because I am thinking about it.

I hope we have a long journey ahead together. John 8:32"

 

Run, Stephen, run.  John preys on vulnerable people like you, and he's actually full of shite.  By the way, are you actually married to your Zambian wife?  If so, why are you going back to Scotland without her?

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Immeasurable encouragement friends, simply immeasurable.

Rejoicing in the Lord,

js

 

But, Johnny, Stephen's off back to Scotland in a couple of weeks.  Don't count your chickens, because he could escape too.

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The truth is more important to me than anything in this life, I would sell everything I own for just a small piece of the truth.

I'm thinking, "Oh my god, Stephen NO! Don't give Bro. Shrader any money!"  Then I read that Stephen is headed back to Scotland soon, so "Phew! Close call for Stephen!"  

I'm still curious about what became of Canadian Missionary Wanna Be With the Weird Name who sold everything to come and work with John and then was disappeared by Bro. Shrader.  Not a peep. 

Good thing John isn't identifying the Alaskan midwife by name.  I'd send her a personal message somehow, even if it meant hiring a bush pilot to deliver it, to not go to Zambia!  Also, how the hell much money does it cost to fly from (presumably) Anchorage to Zambia? That's just crazy. 

Also, if I may.  Can we all "Drink!" every time we see the word precious used by a fundamentalist?  

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On 2/11/2020 at 12:45 PM, Palimpsest said:

 

Per John's last update, Esther isn't due until the end of February.   

Interesting. There could be a Leap-Day baby. Has this rabbit trail been had yet?

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Palimpsest
52 minutes ago, Howl said:

I'm still curious about what became of Canadian Missionary Wanna Be With the Weird Name who sold everything to come and work with John and then was disappeared by Bro. Shrader.  Not a peep. 

Bro. Theophil Nussbaumer from Ontario.  Last mentioned in the March 2018 newsletter when John was discipling him in Bible study.  And then Bro. Theophil disappeared. 

No wait, John did mention quite recently that someone, possibly Theophil, had prayed about joining him.  But it didn't work out. 

I suspect Theophil got thoroughly pissed off and disillusioned with John. He was in Kafue just after the Great Revolt of December 2017 and the Satanic Attack by Roderick.  Then it became the John and Boyd show. 

Theophil's family's church sponsors Pastor Akim Mulaisho (the national IFB pastor in the Copper Belt who rubber stamped Shrader's original residency papers.)  I don't think he had anything to sell.  He was just a kid in his early 20s, and I hope he's safely back on the family farm having seen what a shambles Shrader's mission is in real life.

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Giraffe

How many people do you need to alienate before you 1) accept you’re the asshole in the scenario and 2) to truly be a blessing to those in Zambia you claim to serve, it’s necessary to move back to the states so they can be free of your bullshittery?

How awful a neighbor are you that even the midwives won’t help your wife?! (Eta: are they worried you’ll destroy their businesses if the birth doesn’t go perfectly? Have they discovered you’re a snake and don’t want to be seen as in league with you?)

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