John Shrader 19: FLYING VERMIN SCUM!

[Milly-Molly-Mandy]

On 3/3/2020 at 12:01 AM, subsaharanafrica said:

IDK, according to the CDC’s stats at minimum six times as many people have died in the US of influenza this season than have died worldwide of Covid-19. (CDC says it’s 18,000-46,000 flu deaths through Feb. 22 vs the just over 3,000 official Covid-19 deaths as reported by the BBC yesterday). 
 

Yet the same people freaking out about Coronavirus (sorry, I’ve been calling it caronavirus TIC so long that my phone autocorrects) refuse to get a flu shot because influenza is “natural”.  So is smallpox. 

Well that comment aged well  

[ignorantobserver]

15 minutes ago, Milly-Molly-Mandy said:

Well that comment aged well  

Allow me to add that, even though Covid 19 is currently the main problem, we shouldn't underestimate the flu either. I believe the current official recommendations are for everyone who might be at risk to get the flu shot this year, if only to reduce the pressure on the healthcare system (that can't deal with the usual bad cases of the flu in addition to everything else).

[Gobsmacked]

Our local GP's have issued a time line for flu shots beginning with the elderly, pregnant mums, folk at most risk etc through to everyone else. If folk are sensible and follow the guidelines we should all have had jabs by December. 

[Ozlsn]

One of the side benefits of being locked down over winter is that our flu numbers plummeted - the measures that protect against coronavirus also protect against flu, plus less contact means less transmission. Still get a flu shot though!

[squiddysquid]

Yeah, i worked in respiratory during that Aussie winter 2017 when we had that historic flu wave. Had people in their 20s come in with acute respiratory failure, this has year has been quiet flu-wise.

getting my shot every year too!

[sleepygirl1]

Do we think John and Ester will ever leave Zambia? What happens when the children get older and want to get married? I highly doubt John and Esther would allow one of their children to marry an African person.

[BlessingsVonFundiePants]

John’s 13 year old has had two seizures in the last week - but John’s heading out bush because that’s what god wants. I get the feeling they have convinced the kid that dying on the mission field Would be an awesome and glorious testimony in heaven. He apologises for the inconvenience he causes. 

Spoiler

Requesting your fervent prayers dear friends for the Spirit of God to Sweetly and Powerfully fill and use us as we Sally forth to Eastern Province, Souls to be Saved, and our son's Stressful Situation of continued Seizures

The Lord gave a full day of ministry here in Kafue, Zambia today at Truth Biblical Baptist Church, with the help of God's dear Holy Spirit I poured out my heart in continuing expository preaching through I Thessalonians.

We had a great group of people there, and though deeply burdened, I was very encouraged when two men we have been praying for many years both approached me after the message sharing how God had worked in their hearts. Only the Spirit of God can do this. 

It's 00:14 Monday am here, and by God's Grace I am all packed and leaving in about 3.5 hours heading out about 7+ hours to the Eastern Province. This is where Chechewa is spoken, which is the Zambian language in our Bilingual John and Romans! We are taking about 2,500 of those J&R to distribute as well as 72 full Beams Bibles. What a blessing!! ( SamBarb Martin )

I'll be preaching the Gospel of Christ and teaching the Word of God to about 4 groups of people in 4 different places. How I need the Filling and Empowerment of the dear sweet Holy Spirit of God to serve and minister and proclaim the Word of God.

We are leaving so early because we arrive after 7+ hours of driving, set up camp, then start preaching. It will be many hours of preaching, teaching, and counseling morning until 10 pm each night, and we will be in a village setting with no electricity. 

I've wired up a solar panel to run a modified megaphone, modified so we can connect a wireless mic setup. I'm told our voices can reach almost a mile away, and other villages usually hear and come join the preaching service!

I should be preaching to several hundred people over the course of the week, many or even most who are religious, but lost. 

Please pray for us as we travel.

Please pray for Precious Eternal Souls to be Saved. 

Please pray for our Nehemiah, who experienced two seizures just this past week. It breaks our hearts to hear him apologizing even before his speech stops slurring knowing we are so concerned over him. Please pray for God's mercy on this sweet dear young man of 13 years old. He is pictured with his oldest sibling Enoch (17) as they both helped me install the solar setup for off-grid preaching in the Bush and the Villages.

We also lost the dear sweet servant of God that helped us with our Prayer Letters. What a precious servant and loving friend. No one can ever replace Karen, but we are praying for God to raise up someone to help our family and ministry in that way. 

May the Lord bless you all and keep you, 

Bro. John Shrader 
a servant of the Most High God 
Zambia

Rick-Jodi Shrader, Esther Shrader

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by BlessingsVonFundiePants
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[Italiangirl]

Please pray for our Nehemiah, who experienced two seizures just this past week. It breaks our hearts to hear him apologizing even before his speech stops slurring knowing we are so concerned over him. Please pray for God's mercy on this sweet dear young man of 13 years old. He is pictured with his oldest sibling Enoch (17) as they both helped me install the solar setup for off-grid preaching in the Bush and the Villages.

 

Sure it could be seen how much you are concerned about his health John, just a few words almost at the end of your post and no mention of what have you done to make him feel better/ discover the cause of this seizure. I'm not an expert but how common is to develop seizures like this seemingly out of nowhere? Is it possible there was some sign before that they just choose to ignore? 

How old is the oldest? I believe he is almost 18? So he will have soon to return to the US for a passport/visa right? And then? How could they search a godly young lady for him to court and married if he and all the family are stuck in Zambia? Will, they just ship him to John's dad when is time and saying something you can choose between this 2,3,4 girls your future wife, we have already audition them and the family and they have passed the interview. Where will they live after the wedding? Back in Zambia? And how will they support themself, keep writing from daddy dearest church? So many questions 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Italiangirl

[Ozlsn]

WTAF John and Esther. What pathetic excuse for parents are you?! Get your child to a neurologist. Why the hell didn't they get him assessed already? Why aren't they talking about medications, and other possible treatments?? 

 

[formergothardite]

44 minutes ago, BlessingsVonFundiePants said:

. I get the feeling they have convinced the kid that dying on the mission field Would be an awesome and glorious testimony in heaven.

John started off this Zambia adventure practically telling people he thought at least one of his children was going to die because of dark, scary Africa. I hope the child will be okay, but John is not going to get him the treatment he needs and Esther isn't going to do it either. 

[ignorantobserver]

Isn't Esther still in the US ? Is there any hope that she will put her foot down and get the poor boy to a doctor once she gets home ?

It's pretty impressive that these kids managed to avoid malaria, snakebites and other "local" medical problems until now, given their family situation. Ironically, John might just get his dead kid to show off with, but only due to issues that have nothing to do with his "mission" and everything with his irresponsibility. I hope very much that Nehemia's health issues won't put him in danger and that he doesn't suffer. What kind of abusive monster has his child apologize for having a seizure ?

Edited September 21, 2020 by ignorantobserver

[Gobsmacked]

John's completely lost it. Who uses such flowery language? He really does think he is back in the late 1800's. Pompous ridiculous narcassist John. I have no words left.  

[subsaharanafrica]

On 9/19/2020 at 9:53 AM, Milly-Molly-Mandy said:

Well that comment aged well  

Lol. True. 

7 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

John's completely lost it. Who uses such flowery language? He really does think he is back in the late 1800's. Pompous ridiculous narcassist John. I have no words left.  

Can you imagine that being pumped out of a loudspeaker at some godawful hour of the morning so loud it can be heard a mile away? If that woke me up I would not be charitable about it. 

[Ozlsn]

1 hour ago, ignorantobserver said:

What kind of abusive monster has his child apologize for having a seizure ?

What kind of parent lets their kid apologise, or thinks it a thing to brag about?

[thoughtful]

3 hours ago, BlessingsVonFundiePants said:

Requesting your fervent prayers dear friends for the Spirit of God to Sweetly and Powerfully fill and use us as we Sally forth to Eastern Province, Souls to be Saved, and our son's Stressful Situation of continued Seizures

This fucker makes me rage. All the world is his playroom, for pretending to be a righteous preacher and have fun with words.

He treats his children, his wife, and the people around him like dolls in his infantile fantasy.

[ignorantobserver]

Yes, "Stressful Situation of continued Seizures" ! I usually love John the poet because he is so bad at it and so completely unaware of his shortcomings. But here, he just shows how little he takes the situation seriously. Even moreso than the typical IFB patriarch, he has nobody to criticise him, call him out for his idiocy, tell him his poems are bad or his behaviour inappropriate - he doesn't have a congregation of equals, he is the mighty whitey in a foreign country and would never listen to the locals. After all, what can those Zambian doctors possibly know about his white son's illness ? I hope Esther decides her son's wellbeing is more important than her marriage.

[Gobsmacked]

I had really hoped that the poor lad would be taken to a Doctor whilst in the US. He possibly requires an MRI or similar for a diagnosis to be reached. If that had happened John would be using frilly valance language to tell the world all about it. John's Genius excuse for a father should surely have insisted on something being done??????? If something has been done then Johnnyboy will let us know soon enough after catching up with 'his' thread. 

 

[apandaaries]

Wasn’t John recently bragging about the miracle cure they’d discovered through extensive googling? And now he can’t be fussed to take his child to a doctor, despite dangerous seizures? John, whose terrible back pains led to a Caribbean vacation, while his wife stayed home with eleventy kids?

Selfish, insufferable, piece of shit.

[Ozlsn]

6 hours ago, ignorantobserver said:

I hope Esther decides her son's wellbeing is more important than her marriage

She won't. She's been trained to submit to John, which has only been reinforced by him. If she had any sense or courage she would have stayed with Nehemiah in the US, or left him with his grandparents to get treatment. 

7 hours ago, thoughtful said:

He treats his children, his wife, and the people around him like dolls in his infantile fantasy.

No one except John is real to John. Sure, they have bodies and move around, but they don't exist to him as much more than extras in the Glorious Life Of John. If - God forbid - one of the children or Esther were to die there would be many poorly alliterative posts about how terrible this was for John, how he was deeply affected, how this has put his work into jeopardy etc. And poetry, don't forget the poetry.

The majority of parents would have sought a lot more treatment by now. John and Esther have resources - she just went to the Nurptials with Nehemiah FFS - and appear to have done the bare minimum. They could have seen specialists in Lukasa or even Jo'burg. They could have seen specialists in Texas, Florida or Ohio FFS. She took the two children who needed the most care from her to the US - why she didn't stay on to get a clear diagnosis and treatment I don't understand, but given they were there about 3 weeks in total I don't think they could have, especially not in the time of covid.

One thing that really concerns me is the ongoing impact of the seizures. How are John and more to the point Esther going to cope if Nehemiah starts needing high levels of additional care? John seems fine with having a child die, but I don't think he's prepared for a child with disabilities at all. 

[apandaaries]

A friend of mine has had seizures her whole life. They suck. I can’t believe John thinks okay to allow his son to apologize for a medical condition.

That said, according to my friend children often outgrow (for lack of a better word) seizures during puberty. That his onset was at 13 is especially troublesome. 
I can’t believe how blithe they’re being about this. What fucking selfish assholes—I’m including John, Esther, Rick, Jodi, and ma and pa Keller. One of those adults could and should advocate for him, and none are. ?

[Howl]

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It's 00:14 Monday am here, and by God's Grace I am all packed and leaving in about 3.5 hours heading out about 7+ hours to the Eastern Province. This is where Chechewa is spoken, which is the Zambian language in our Bilingual John and Romans!

Chechewa, the language that John has not bothered to learn. 

Also: John is in a manic phase

Also: Totally on brand for John to take an amplified sound system that can annoy people for Jesus up to a mile away.  

Also: Is this the area where the church was burned?

So  hoping his son gets some kind of treatment.  Was it confirmed that Esther sought treatment for Nehemiah when they were in the US?

Edited September 22, 2020 by Howl

[Ozlsn]

On 9/23/2020 at 12:51 AM, Howl said:

So  hoping his son gets some kind of treatment.  Was it confirmed that Esther sought treatment for Nehemiah when they were in the US?

I can't see why else she would have taken him to the Nurptials, but there's no confirmation. And to be honest I am cynical that if they did seek treatment it was from a naturopath or at best from a friend of a church person who has experience with seizures. I don't think they could have seen a specialist, had follow up scans and seen the specialist again for treatment plans (assuming things work not dissimilarly to here) in the time they were there, especially as they were definitely in Texas with John's parents, Ohio for the Nurptials and possibly in Florida as well? (I thought they were there visiting Esther's family before the wedding, but I could be wrong. I'm not a total stalker, heh). 

Having said that there is a gap between when Esther spoke at Rick's church and the Nurptials, so maybe they did see a specialist, have scans etc then and are being followed up locally/by telehealth.

What makes me think not is the lack of gritting for medical expenses frankly. John was all over how essential his medical costs were, but there seems to be silence on this.

[Xan]

I agree.  I thought she brought Nehemiah over with her for medical treatment.  It may be that she just brought him along in case he had a seizure because she knew John wouldn't be attentive enough.  Or maybe she thought that if he had a seizure here in the states, she could take him to the closest ER and maybe someone there could help.

Someone needs to rage at John about this.  John went to great lengths to get his back surgery.  Why can he and Esther not be bothered to get treatment for their son?

[gustava]

However, if he is still having seizures, whatever treatment he received, such as medication, needs to be re-evaluation....immediately.

[subsaharanafrica]

On 9/22/2020 at 5:51 PM, Howl said:

Chechewa, the language that John has not bothered to learn. 

I’m not quite sure why he has been calling it Chichewa tbh. That’s what it’s called on the Malawian side of the border. In Zambia it’s  Nyanja or what it was called in Malawi before the government there changed the name to Chichewa. 
 

Chichewa isn’t really a Zambian language. Nyanja and Chinyanja are. (Even though all three are the exact same language).