Lisa Metzger: Homeschooling on Bed Rest with Your 14th Child

[meep]

I don't remember the tetanus shot hurting much at all, it felt like a lingering bruise. 
My mother has had shingles and multiple recurrences already. She is not anti-vax totally but still is weary of them. I doubt she would ever get the shingles vax even though she would benefit from it. 

[Hane]

@quiversR4hunting , the summer I was 12 I started breaking out in speckly hives whenever I was in direct sunlight. My younger sister had rubella at the time, so my mom thought I had a mild case of it, too. It turned out I didn’t. When I was 16, the rubella vaccine came out, but the clinic at the health department refused to give it to me because “What if she’s pregnant?” The nurse didn’t care when I told her I hadn’t even kissed a boy yet.

When I was 20 and on oral birth control, my gyno agreed to vaccinate me. I had to go to the health department, pick up the vaccine, and take it to his office. 

[sixcatatty]

On 1/23/2020 at 6:50 PM, smittykins said:

*reminds self to discuss shingles vax with doctor *

I got chicken pox when I was ten(pre-vaccine), and as well as making me feel miserable, it blew my chances of getting a perfect attendance award at school for the third straight year.

Another one who got chicken pox before the vaccine was available. For some reason, it hit my feet more than any other place on my body. I also missed my school's spelling bee because I was poxed.

Now that I have four auto-immune diseases, I can't do live vaccines. I need to remember to ask about Shingrix (the new non-live shingles vaccine) when I see my rheumatologist in three weeks.

On 1/26/2020 at 5:31 PM, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I had no idea you could get it more than once.. Measles yes, Chicken pox, not a clue. 

While you're at it FJ-ers, get the Whooping Cough vaccine (pertussis) even if you had it as a child.  It wears off.  Something that medicine figured out 12 or so years ago during the last Whooping Cough "epidemic" when previously vaccinated adults caught it.

I caught it from my boss who coughed all over the office for weeks and never told any of us what he had.  After I started coughing with what I though was a chest cold that wouldn't leave, the doctor told me I had whopping cough.  When I protested I'd been vaccinated  she said, well we've recently found it wears off.  Got the shot after I was better.  

My measles titers are good. I got the whooping cough booster a couple of years ago.

On 1/22/2020 at 4:29 PM, feministxtian said:

Blood transfusions: Mr. Xtian had transfusions when he had his pancreatic surgery and of course, when he was fighting cancer. The medical staff asks a variety of questions before they even order the blood, like "do you have a problem not knowing the race/ethnicity/sex of the donors?" and "do you have any objections to blood transfusions". They asked both of us. I was like "oh hell no, top off the tank" and Mr. Xtian was the same way. 

BFD about the whole DNA thing. Pink and alive beats pale and dying. 

This is a topic that makes me stabby...vaccinations and blood transfusions...and proper medical care. Got my boosters the other day to protect the baby that's coming later this summer. 

For the love of God, get the shots, accept the transfusions, take the pills, whatever it takes. 

In 2014, the docs thought I had endometrial cancer. After two biopsies and being put on what we now know wasn't enough Progesterone, I bled for an ungodly amount of time. The night before Halloween 2014, I ended up in the ED in shock, unstable and with a Hemoglobin and Hematocrit that were pretty much wiped out.

I've never been happier to give consent for two units of of blood. After I went back to work, folks kept commenting on how pale I had looked before and how much better my color was. All I knew was I wasn't getting winded just heading to the bathroom like i had when I had no blood to speak of.

[Chocolate Lover]

19 hours ago, quiversR4hunting said:

 

I'm allergic to the sun. Yup, it is awful as it sounds. 

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I spent most of my adult years with polymorphic light eruption, and was one of the minority that didn't harden off with careful exposure.   The past few years it has almost gone away, only affecting my neck.  I read online somewhere that going through the menopause can do this.  I'm the right age (but no periods since my hysterectomy 15 years ago), so I'm crossing my fingers that I'm over it.  Because, I agree, having to wear clothing thick enough to stop the UV reaching my skin was no fun in a hot summer.

[quiversR4hunting]

19 minutes ago, Chocolate Lover said:

I spent most of my adult years with polymorphic light eruption, and was one of the minority that didn't harden off with careful exposure.   The past few years it has almost gone away, only affecting my neck.  I read online somewhere that going through the menopause can do this.  I'm the right age (but no periods since my hysterectomy 15 years ago), so I'm crossing my fingers that I'm over it.  Because, I agree, having to wear clothing thick enough to stop the UV reaching my skin was no fun in a hot summer.

oh you give me hope! I haven't hit menopause yet. It took 3 years (including a trip to Cleveland clinic) to get my diagnosis, it took so long because I don't get hives. I just itch on all exposed skin (minus my face and hands- which I think is because they are always exposed). And the itch will last 6 weeks and if I repeat exposure the itch is more intense and the only thing that stops it is steroid treatment. I do run in shorts and a tank but try to do so in the early morning and I don't have swim leggings so my legs get exposed when I am on the jet ski (I can't stop all my fun) but I can handle the itches from only 30 to 60 minutes of exposure but more than that or repeat exposure makes me crazy with being itchy. 

[justwatching]

I had chicken pox twice.  Once in kindergarten when mom said I had about 6 spots and again in 6th grade with a full blown case.

Same here! I was so miserable!

[texasdreamer]

I had chickenpox as a child. Then again as an adult with my 5 children. Before the vaccine. Back in the olden days I had measles, mumps and chicken pox all in one school year. We were in total fear of polio. I am so grateful that my children and grands and great grands have these vaccines available. I mean people have died needlessly from these diseases.I would get the shot for shingles but have a kidney transplant. Need to check again and see if there is a new one that would be ok. 

[Edhelfin]

How can this gem be forgotten?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.metzgernation.com/amp/my-ectopic-baby

On 1/17/2020 at 1:39 AM, JermajestyDuggar said:

My guess is that Lisa changed the names of her three adopted kids. Although I didn’t read this, it’s just a guess. Her children’s names all seem to stick to the same style. Lisa is such a narcissist that she wouldn’t care about a child whose had a certain name for 10 years. She cares more about what kind of names she likes. So I’m guessing she changed their names to suit her. 

I used to read her blog 'a 2nd generation of homeschooling'. There was a post about how her two black children 'chose new names' after adoption. One of them was originally named Kanye. 

She takes her toddlers to abortion clinics and the whole family is proof that wearing pants or sleeveless tops does not mean you are 'fundie-lite' (cough Jill and Jinger cough). She is one of the most rabid fundies out there and is especially keen on the 'expectant management' topic (i.e. no medical intervention for ectopic pregnancy, just wait and expect to not die).

Edited January 28, 2020 by Edhelfin

[albireo]

2 hours ago, Edhelfin said:

How can this gem be forgotten?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.metzgernation.com/amp/my-ectopic-baby

What the actual fuck? Does she not realize that the ectopic pregnancy was killing her even before the tube ruptured? I wonder what really goes through fundies' heads in life-threatening situations. Lisa claims to have no fear for her own life, but I bet she did at the time.

[Giraffe]

Some fundies, Lisa clearly being one of them, have an almost romanticized view of dying in pregnancy/labor/childbirth. It’s bizarre! They focus on the 1 in ______ ectopic pregnancies where the pregnancy continues and both survive while ignoring how many other people have died from untreated ectopic pregnancies. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

3 hours ago, Edhelfin said:

How can this gem be forgotten?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.metzgernation.com/amp/my-ectopic-baby

I used to read her blog 'a 2nd generation of homeschooling'. There was a post about how her two black children 'chose new names' after adoption. One of them was originally named Kanye. 

She takes her toddlers to abortion clinics and the whole family is proof that wearing pants or sleeveless tops does not mean you are 'fundie-lite' (cough Jill and Jinger cough). She is one of the most rabid fundies out there and is especially keen on the 'expectant management' topic (i.e. no medical intervention for ectopic pregnancy, just wait and expect to not die).

I laugh at the idea that her adopted children chose their names. Lisa did. She probably gave them a few suggestions that fit in with her family and they chose from those few names. If the boys had said they wanted to be named Lebron James Metzger, she would have said no. And I am sure Lisa gave them the name change idea in the first place. I bet the boys hadnt even thought of changing their first names. My friend had their adopted daughter since she was 2 (they did foster to adopt) and they never thought of changing her first name. The naming style is a little different from their bio kids but it’s no big deal at all. 

[AmazonGrace]

On 1/29/2020 at 4:15 AM, albireo said:

What the actual fuck? Does she not realize that the ectopic pregnancy was killing her even before the tube ruptured? I wonder what really goes through fundies' heads in life-threatening situations. Lisa claims to have no fear for her own life, but I bet she did at the time.

So if God lovingly creates each little human embryo, what the hell was he thinking putting them outside the womb where they will die and kill their mother? He's got a nasty sense of humor.

Spoiler

 

[LeftCoastLurker]

On 1/27/2020 at 1:56 AM, Smee said:

I should look into getting a shingles shot. I had chickenpox when I was about one, and my elder brother and sister got it at the same time AND my dad (who had the worst case). Poor mum was looking after us all. My dad got shingles a couple of years ago and was miserable. I also had two friends who had it, both in their 30s. One was misdiagnosed at first... as syphillis. I don’t need to tell you where her shingles outbreak was, and the hella pain she would have been in.

I got shingles in my late 20's. It took three doctors to figure it out since it presented on my inner thighs! They never did mention STDs! Second most painful thing I've experienced. Me thinks at my advanced age I need to scurry to the doctor to get that vaccination!

[FiveAcres]

14 hours ago, LeftCoastLurker said:

I got shingles in my late 20's. It took three doctors to figure it out since it presented on my inner thighs! They never did mention STDs! Second most painful thing I've experienced. Me thinks at my advanced age I need to scurry to the doctor to get that vaccination!

I'm on the list at my doctor's office to get the series of two vaccinations. I've had shingles twice now, and would rather not go three for three. 

At least the second time I knew what I had in time to start taking the anti-viral. I think it helped.

[Howl]

This may vary by state, but in Texas, pharmacists are trained to give inoculations and any pharmacist should be able to give you your Shingix shingles vaccination.    I've gotten various flu shots, shingles shots, tetanus, pneumonia shot and whatever at my doctor's office, Walgreens, and the pharmacy in my local Texas grocery chain, HEB.   

The extremely effective shingles vaccine, Shingrix, is a two-shot series not covered by MediCare.  It wasn't cheap, but much much cheaper and less painful than getting shingles. 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Howl

[KnittingOwl]

On 1/28/2020 at 11:47 AM, Chocolate Lover said:

I spent most of my adult years with polymorphic light eruption, and was one of the minority that didn't harden off with careful exposure.   The past few years it has almost gone away, only affecting my neck.  I read online somewhere that going through the menopause can do this.  I'm the right age (but no periods since my hysterectomy 15 years ago), so I'm crossing my fingers that I'm over it.  Because, I agree, having to wear clothing thick enough to stop the UV reaching my skin was no fun in a hot summer.

Interesting! Both my mom and I have it. Mom is just starting menopause, so maybe it will get better for her soon. And it’s better for me in the PNW, but covering up is still a pain

[milkteeth]

I highly recommend getting your titers done if you're able to. I started a new job last year that required proof that I had been given all my shots as a kiddo. My Mom was a very no nonsense military nurse so I knew that I had received all of them, but unfortunately I couldn't find my vaccine records. I had my titers done instead and learned that I had absolutely no immunity to measles. This was also during a measles outbreak in my part of the Pacific Northwest. My arm was pretty sore afterwards, but it's worth it. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

She makes zero sense. She doesn’t even explain how the two are connected. 

[FaithAndReason]

3 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

She makes zero sense. She doesn’t even explain how the two are connected. 

Watching the half-time show turned people into abusers and sex-traffickers? I guess Trump and Co. have been watching that half-time show for the last 40+ years. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by FaithAndReason
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[JermajestyDuggar]

2 minutes ago, FaithAndReason said:

Watching the half-time show turned people into abusers and sex-traffickers? 

I mean, I guess that’s the leap she’s making. Fundies seem to make claims without any sort of proof all the time. Particularly when it comes to abortion and the LGBTQ community. And none of their sheeple friends ask for any sort of proof. They just go along with it because it’s what they want to believe. 

[Howl]

23 minutes ago, FaithAndReason said:

Watching the half-time show turned people into abusers and sex-traffickers?

There's no cause and effect with the content of the half-time show, but sex workers flock to large events that bring a lot of men into a city.  No doubt in my mind at all that, sadly, women/girls are being trafficked at these events.  

At least some of these histrionic asshats wringing their hands and clutching pearls have porn habits/addictions or are sexual abusers themselves.  

  

[JermajestyDuggar]

14 minutes ago, Howl said:

There's no cause and effect with the content of the half-time show, but sex workers flock to large events that bring a lot of men into a city.  No doubt in my mind at all that, sadly, women/girls are being trafficked at these events.  

At least some of these histrionic asshats wringing their hands and clutching pearls have porn habits/addictions or are sexual abusers themselves.  

  

And I’m sure they would never talk about sex trafficking at other large public events. Like trump rallies. Or concerts they like. No, just the super bowl. Because it’s easy for them to boycott and rip apart because they weren’t going to watch anyway. 

[kmachete14]

Just to clarify: Paying to watch a woman dance on a pole in a club is 100% different than paying to have sex with a 16 year old that was flown out to Miami by her pimp. And both are 100% different than a talented singing & dancing 50 year old performer using a pole as a prop in her show. Also, do these people not see cheerleaders? They wear the same skimpy clothing and stick out their butts too . . . 

[smittykins]

I think it was on Lori’s FB page(I saw it on reddit), one commenter basically said the same thing.(Paraphrased)”Your average cheerleader shows more cleavage and crotch on the regular than JLo did on Sunday.”

[Marmion]

7 hours ago, FaithAndReason said:

Watching the half-time show turned people into abusers and sex-traffickers? I guess Trump and Co. have been watching that half-time show for the last 40+ years. 

She's actually not alone in this regard .  { https://www.wcnc.com/article/sports/nfl/superbowl/franklin-graham-super-bowl-halftime-showed-young-girls-that-sexual-exploitation-of-women-is-okay/275-1f51be13-a056-4549-84ad-f050d39b6b93 , https://deadline.com/2020/02/rocker-dee-snider-attacks-shakira-and-jennifer-lopezs-super-bowl-halftime-show-1202850607/ }  Needless to say , my Holiness family would have been taken back , and appalled by the revealing outfits , and " carnal dancing " , if they had occasion to see it . But still , if people don't know that Shakira wears midriff tops , she's a belly dancer , and that Jennifer Lopez is known to wear skimpy outfits , they just aren't at all familiar with them .  As for me , while I can certainly see how a sheltered person , with conservative community standards could find them to be " Nike" , I myself was far more interested in the fireworks , and light show , than either one's physical presentation .  But then I'm not really the least bit sexually oriented , just saying .  But yeah , I thought that JLo's outfit had looked seemingly more revealing that that of  Shakira , or even a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader , but this was due even more so to her outfit not only being form fitting , but also in large part fleshtoned . But you all can see , and judge for yourselves as to whether or not it was age appropriate for all audiences .   

 

Edited February 5, 2020 by Marmion
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