Lori Alexander 74: Anniversary Pain

[delphinium65]

1 hour ago, onemama said:

A measure of autonomy is good, in my opinion. Total dependence is for children, not adults.

Absolutely.  A man requiring total dependence would be an absolute, non-negotiable dealbreaker for me.  

17 minutes ago, Melissa1977 said:

So, according to Lori, a homosexual couple is defined by two people (men?) with good salaries keeping an equal relationship. 

Wow, I think it's the best gay advertisement ever! 

If sexual orientation was actually a choice, as people like Lori seem to think, that would be a great selling point IMO.  

Edited January 13, 2020 by delphinium65
Multitasking gone wrong, typo

[kpmom]

46 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

 We had an egalitarian marriage and lots of compromise along the way. However, those compromises were not times when we would "give in" to the other. They involved a third option we could mutually agree on. Nothing was a battle to "get my way" or for him to get his way.

This describes my marriage too.  We don't agree on every little thing, but we can always find a way of compromising.  No one's "in charge", and why should there be?  We're both grown ass adults. 

I hate the way people like Lori and Ken talk about marriage like it's a battlefield. 

[feministxtian]

20 minutes ago, kpmom said:

I hate the way people like Lori and Ken talk about marriage like it's a battlefield. 

They take the worst parts of the bible, turn it into dogma and then poof! Marriage is a battlefield. They think that compromise or being egalitarian is not "God's will" for marriage. The man must "rule" and the woman must "submit". They don't get it. They don't get that having a peaceful marriage is possible without it. Due to certain issues in our marriage, I "gave in" at times even though I didn't like it...but I had gotten to the point where it just wasn't worth arguing about and although I felt strongly about certain things, giving in to him made life easier.

[Sweet Caroline]

9 hours ago, SongRed7 said:

I just finished reading Devil in the White City (Excellent book BTW, I'm probably the last one on the face of the earth to read it lol) Anyway, it's a true story based on circumstances surrounding the time of the Chicago World's Fair in 1893.  Throughout the book there are numerous references about working women and working mothers.  I know it's only a small glimpse of one time period, but in the 1890s it seems working women (among the middle and lower classes) was quite common.  It seems only the upper class women (for whom many other women worked for as domestics) who stayed home.  

Women always worked. 

 

 

Oh my goodness!  I love that book - creepy, but a good read.  I was more interested in the architecture and the goings on at the World’s Fair than the crimes being committed. 

You are right though. Many of his victims were single, working women who did not have a man to watch over them. Scandalous! What would Lori think?

[Caroline]

I think that book is a little too cerebral for Lori  - which explains a lot about what she believes.

[Seahorse Wrangler]

6 hours ago, klein_roeschen said:

When Lori talks about the good, old days she thinks of Lady Grantham sipping tea in the drawing room and not of Daisy the kitchenmaid working 15 hours days 7 days a week ( I know, wrong decade and wrong country, but I'm currently re-watching Downton Abbey and that example is fitting).

 

One of my favorite history topics is the worker's movement and esp the working women's movement of the 19th and early 20th century. The women's movement at that time in Germany was divided in 2 parts. The middle class movement, with it's focus on the vote, higher education and the chance for middle class women to work outside the home in higher jobs. The working women's where focused on bettering the working women's situation. Equal pay, less hours, better conditions for pregnant and nursing mothers. Working women at that time where working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, while on top still had the housekeeping to do. Or they worked from home making toys or sewing slippers and get a even shittier pay for all the work they did. It's no wonder that socialism, communism and anachism as political ideas all startet during that time.

The Lady Granthams and her ilk did work in a sense. It wasn't the back-breaking labour of the lower classes though. They networked as they drank tea, attended balls etc. They found a suitable position for a wayward brother/son/nephew.  They often mentored younger female relatives and found them suitable spouses.

Occasionally they ran the family estates while the lord and master was pontificating in Parliament or off serving Queen and Country.

 

I have to agree that the two women's movements had two differing aims and were often at odds with each other. If you get a chance to watch The Victorian Slum , it shows how different groups of people survived during the latter Victorian Era. It's a re-construction series but interesting.

[wallysmommy]

Since we have a global group of very smart people on FJ, is it a cultural term to call people attending college/university "pupils."  For my 30 or so years teaching in at US universities, we called them "students."  I'm asking because of Lori's ignorant  alleged quote as a tweet today about how horrible "pupils" are and that they are "fiends."  

[Chocolate Lover]

In the UK they're students, and have been for well over 40 years.

[quiversR4hunting]

15 hours ago, feministxtian said:

They take the worst parts of the bible, turn it into dogma and then poof! Marriage is a battlefield. They think that compromise or being egalitarian is not "God's will" for marriage. The man must "rule" and the woman must "submit". They don't get it. They don't get that having a peaceful marriage is possible without it. Due to certain issues in our marriage, I "gave in" at times even though I didn't like it...but I had gotten to the point where it just wasn't worth arguing about and although I felt strongly about certain things, giving in to him made life easier.

and cue Pat Benatar -

 

[SongRed7]

16 hours ago, kpmom said:

I hate the way people like Lori and Ken talk about marriage like it's a battlefield. 

But oh, it is in their world...always ground to "keep" or "relinquish" depending on what's in your pants. 

[rayneflower]

Dear mother of pearl. I think she's lost it. 

 

I really wish she would understand that God gave the women abilities outside of the home! If he didn't think they were able he wouldn't have given them the brain power to be high powered doctors, lawyers, nurses, teachers, business women, ect. 

[kpmom]

4 hours ago, quiversR4hunting said:

and cue Pat Benatar -

 

I was thinking of that song, too!

I love Pat Benatar, but I never cared for the message of that song.  I figured if love was a battlefield I would have stayed happily single.  Who needs it?

[usmcmom]

I imagine Lori’s thought process in her current obsession with fat shaming goes something like this:

*Ken’s eyes wanders to an attractive woman who happens to be heavier than Lori...

”If only I could find a righteous way to degrade that woman.  Good thing I can find scriptures that include the words ‘shame’ and ‘judge.’ Now I can call other women ‘fat’ and defend myself while doing it,” 
******

I also think Lori likes to fat shame because being overweight is a visible thing.  If we try to shame other sins like envy, laziness, etc, Lori can claim it doesn’t apply to her because those are not physically visible.  

[Loveday]

Did Lori get a license to practice medicine over the holidays?

Leghumper:

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The transformed wife can you advise a natural herb or vitamin that I can take to boost my thyroid. It is under active and I refuse to take medicines.

"Dr" Alexander:

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 I use porcine powder for my thyroid medication from a compounding pharmacy. Intenzyme Forte by Biotics Research is a supplement with porcine powder. The thing with treating the thyroid is being careful since it can affect your heart rate and blood pressure.

No, Lori, the 'thing' with treating the thyroid is...wait for it...LETTING YOUR DOCTOR DO IT! 

I swear, I've never seen a more gullible group of people that some of Lori's followers. 

[onemama]

17 minutes ago, Loveday said:

porcine powder

Porcine.... as in "of, affecting, or resembling a pig or pigs"?  So is this lady using pig powder to power her thyroid? 

17 minutes ago, Loveday said:

The thing with treating the thyroid is being careful since it can affect your heart rate and blood pressure.

I don't have any problem with the usual recommendations of "eat iodine-rich fish" and "eat a few brazil nuts". But recommending medication is irresponsible!

Edited January 14, 2020 by onemama

[onemama]

21 hours ago, feministxtian said:

They take the worst parts of the bible, turn it into dogma and then poof! Marriage is a battlefield. They think that compromise or being egalitarian is not "God's will" for marriage. The man must "rule" and the woman must "submit". They don't get it. They don't get that having a peaceful marriage is possible without it. Due to certain issues in our marriage, I "gave in" at times even though I didn't like it...but I had gotten to the point where it just wasn't worth arguing about and although I felt strongly about certain things, giving in to him made life easier.

This sums up the problem with "Complementarianism". 

I find I have to give in to things when I wish they were different, but I also have boundaries that I need to keep in place. Lori would tell me to shut up, submit, relinquish all control and put out. That would make me a very, very bitter woman. Just like Lori! And Debi Pearl!

[feministxtian]

1 minute ago, onemama said:

This sums up the problem with "Complementarianism". 

I find I have to give in to things when I wish they were different, but I also have boundaries that I need to keep in place. Lori would tell me to shut up, submit, relinquish all control and put out. That would make me a very, very bitter woman. Just like Lori! And Debi Pearl!

And, doesn't she say that "widows" should be supported by the church? That's a fucking joke! My pastor didn't sit me down after Mr. Xtian's funeral and say "Ok Xtian, what bills do you have, how much do you need, we'll have a check to you tomorrow". Ummm, no. That so didn't happen. Fortunately (thank God) I have enough to get by for awhile, and hopefully the US Gov't will pay up for killing Mr. Xtian. 

Lori has NO idea of the real world...she'd shit her pants if she had to join it. 

[rayneflower]

So now not submitting to your husband is rebellion. 

 

I'm sorry but in my marriage we both do chores, both cook, both do dishes, there is no 'fetch me my slippers and bring me a martini' like she want's women to be now a days. Marriage isn't just cooking and cleaning for someone, Lori. But in your mind 10 minutes and lube keeps Ken happy.... probably not. ?‍♀️ 

 

I'm going to hide in the prayer closet now. Pray for Lori. Help her see women aren't just baby factories. 

[delphinium65]

59 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

I imagine Lori’s thought process in her current obsession with fat shaming goes something like this:

*Ken’s eyes wanders to an attractive woman who happens to be heavier than Lori... 

I wonder if Ken actually would prefer for Lori to gain a little weight...is she perhaps refusing to submit to what her husband wants? Doesn't she yammer on and on about women being as attractive to their husbands as possible?  According to her own rules, that would be sin.  Not that I think a woman has to adjust her weight to keep a man, but that's a big part of Lori's message. 

[rayneflower]

2 minutes ago, delphinium65 said:

I wonder if Ken actually would prefer for Lori to gain a little weight...is she perhaps refusing to submit to what her husband wants? Doesn't she yammer on and on about women being as attractive to their husbands as possible?  According to her own rules, that would be sin.  Not that I think a woman has to adjust her weight to keep a man, but that's a big part of Lori's message. 

 

Lori is a hypocrite. She wants every woman to be like her; slime salad, only salad, housewife, skinny as a rail. 

 

Lori looks FRAIL. She doesn't look healthy, I highly doubt she keeps up with her health like should. She spends all her time on Twitter, Facebook Chat room, and paying her maids. 

 

[Maggie Mae]

23 minutes ago, rayneflower said:

Lori looks FRAIL. She doesn't look healthy, I highly doubt she keeps up with her health like should. She spends all her time on Twitter, Facebook Chat room, and paying her maids.

I don't think she looks frail. I think she looks like hot garbage, but not frail. She's aged very poorly. But on some of her instagram stories she does full body shots and not all of her clothes are flattering to her midsection.

Actually, wow, going through her stuff to find full body pictures, its shocking how much she's aged, and not well.

[wallysmommy]

Her post comes a couple of weeks after the holidays.  Did something happen over Christmas Dinner where someone ate more than their allocation of slime salad?  Did they drink too much water or eat too much $14/pound butter?  

 

[delphinium65]

1 minute ago, wallysmommy said:

Her post comes a couple of weeks after the holidays.  Did something happen over Christmas Dinner where someone ate more than their allocation of slime salad?  Did they drink too much water or eat too much $14/pound butter?  

 

My bet is on Lori's precious butter.  I can NOT imagine voluntarily swallowing that salad!  

[klein_roeschen]

7 hours ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

The Lady Granthams and her ilk did work in a sense. It wasn't the back-breaking labour of the lower classes though. They networked as they drank tea, attended balls etc. They found a suitable position for a wayward brother/son/nephew.  They often mentored younger female relatives and found them suitable spouses.

Occasionally they ran the family estates while the lord and master was pontificating in Parliament or off serving Queen and Country.

 

I have to agree that the two women's movements had two differing aims and were often at odds with each other. If you get a chance to watch The Victorian Slum , it shows how different groups of people survived during the latter Victorian Era. It's a re-construction series but interesting.

I know that upper- class women didn't just sitting around, doing elaborate needle work, but did Lori know it or care? She has her fantasy about the good old times no matter what the reality was. And thank for the link, I looked some time ago for that show but couldn't find it. I love historical reanactment shows. And I'm in hospital for a few days next month and that will keep me from going mad with boredom.

 

1 hour ago, usmcmom said:

I also think Lori likes to fat shame because being overweight is a visible thing.  If we try to shame other sins like envy, laziness, etc, Lori can claim it doesn’t apply to her because those are not physically visible.  

Fat shaming is more accepted than being overly rasism or sexism these days. You will get called out for open rasist or sexist comments, but if you call out an overweight person a lazy glutton that should eat less and exercise more, not many people care. She isn't alone with her fat shaming and for many people this is less controverse than her other topics.

1 hour ago, Loveday said:

Did Lori get a license to practice medicine over the holidays?

Leghumper:

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The transformed wife can you advise a natural herb or vitamin that I can take to boost my thyroid. It is under active and I refuse to take medicines.

"Dr" Alexander:

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 I use porcine powder for my thyroid medication from a compounding pharmacy. Intenzyme Forte by Biotics Research is a supplement with porcine powder. The thing with treating the thyroid is being careful since it can affect your heart rate and blood pressure.

No, Lori, the 'thing' with treating the thyroid is...wait for it...LETTING YOUR DOCTOR DO IT! 

I swear, I've never seen a more gullible group of people that some of Lori's followers. 

I have hypothyriodism and take a pill with l-thyroxin in the morning. Every 3 months my doc run the bloodwork, to look if she needs to adjust the dosage. But the thing with supplements and other woo is, they promise you a lot, while they didn't guarantee you anything. If shit goes south with them, they wash their hands clean because they have a fine print on the bottle that nobody reads.  So her recommondation with that stuff can go very south, the thyriod gland isn't something you should mess with.

And on the other side, if I had to take porcine powder daily, I would switch it for some nice sausage or a schnitzel or some tasty roast or some burgers made of pork (pork is the most common meat here), so my taste buds have something of this too

[Hane]

Maybe Ken does have a wandering eye, but I’d be surprised if it wandered toward more zaftig women than Lori. Remember, he was instrumental in getting on their daughters’ cases if they seemed to be “committing the sin” of “gaining five pounds or more.”