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I'll print out the highlighted text with the actual names in parentheses, because it's both bizarre and confusing.  This petition is likely related to child custody issues over Brandon and Melani's four children. 
Here's a primer on names and the attempted murder of Brandon Boudreaux: 
Lori's niece Melani  Boudreaux divorced her husband Brandon.  During the divorce or perhaps just after, Brandon Boudreaux was in his driveway on October 2, 2019, when an SUV drives up, someone fires a shot that narrowly misses Brandon and shatters the window of his car.  That car is confirmed by police to be registered to Charles Vallow, Lori's late husband who was murdered by Alex Cox, Lori's brother.  Brandon assumes that the shooter is Alex Cox. 
Brandon subsequently went into hiding with his four kids.  Melani married Ian Pawloski (who himself was recently divorced) in Vegas over Thanksgiving weekend. 
Alex Cox, Lori's brother, gets married that same weekend, takes the last name of his new wife, but is found dying by the new wife's son;  Alex is declared dead a short time later, on December 12, 2019. 
This petition claims that Melanie confessed to her new husband Ian, that she had conspired with her uncle, Alex Cox (Lori's brother) to set up a hit on Brandon.
Text of petition in the tweet above with actual names substituted. 
...Melani Boudreaux Pawloski's new husband, Ian Pawloski,  has even provided statements to law enforcement that Melani told him [ian] shortly after their marriage that she [Melani] conspired with her uncle, Alex Cox, to kill Brandon Boudreaux.  Melani's new husband Ian has given up parenting time out of fear of what Melani may do or has done to his children
7. Melani is under investigation regarding the attempted murder of ex husband Brandon Boudreaux.  Melani's new husband Ian Pawloski has reported to law enforcement that Melani revealed to him [ian] shortly after their marriage that she conspired with her uncle [Alex Cox] to kill Melani's ex husband Brandon Boudreaux.  Melani is also under investigation relating to the disappearance of her Aunt Lori's two missing children. 
I can't find this petition or other information about this on EasterIdahoNews.   If accurate, Ian Pawloski (Melani's new husband) has realized that he's in over his head with some truly scary people and is singing like a little canary to police. 

I had heard about a situation with a niece but wasn’t sure of the details. Thank you for the update.
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EastIdahoNews.com is also reporting on this.  This post includes a link to the court documents filed by Brandon Boudreaux.  Brandon wants custody of their four kids and is justifiably concerned about the possibility of his ex-wife being granted unsupervised visits with their children. 

Lori Daybell’s niece knows where JJ and Tylee are, ex-husband claims in court documents

However, AFAIK, law enforcement has not confirmed if Ian is indeed talking to them about his new wife's confessions and, other than Brandon Boudreaux's claiming this in his petition,  I haven't seen a specific source where this information is confirmed. 

Interesting tidbit from the article linked above.  Melani and Ian have moved from Rexburg, ID  to Phoenix, AZ

 

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On 2/10/2020 at 7:22 AM, Howl said:

Joe Ryan, Lori's 3rd husband and Tylee's bio dad, died alone in his home in 2018 and was not found for weeks. 

Joe Ryan's sister Annie Ryan (Tylee's aunt) has set up a web page with a time line not significantly different than the timeline on East Idaho News.  However, I found her version to be clear and concise and a bit easier to follow, so it's a useful primer.  Why did she set up another timeline?

Annie Ryan does mourn the Lori she knew as her vibrant and happy sister-in-law years ago.  Joe Ryan and Lori were married for three or four-ish years and divorced in 2004.  

One thing this timeline did clarify for me is that JJ and Tylee both did make the move to Idaho, JJ was enrolled in school there and was last seen on 9/23/2019.

Link: Timeline of Events Around the Disappearance of Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow

 

So this is really weird in a "six degrees of separation" kinda way; Annie Ryan (aka Annie Cushing) has a daughter named Destinee Cushing who is part of the NYC cosplay scene (she's a hair/makeup artist and professional dancer), runs in the same crowd as Doug Phillips, and was featured in one of his videos.

 

 

I just looked at her IG for the first time in ages, and was surprised to find this post from a few weeks ago:

She also mentions the Dateline episode:

 

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49 minutes ago, AnnaSofia said:

So this is really weird in a "six degrees of separation" kinda way; Annie Ryan (aka Annie Cushing) has a daughter named Destinee Cushing who is part of the NYC cosplay scene (she's a hair/makeup artist and professional dancer), runs in the same crowd as Doug Phillips, and was featured in one of his videos.

All too strange.

Kudos to Destinee and her mother, though, for stepping up to get needed attention on this case. 

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@AnnaSofia, how did you ever put that together?  I'm gobsmacked! Tell us more about how you came across that connection. 

The mom, Annie Ryan Cushing is the sister to Joe Ryan, Lori's third husband.  Cushing's passion is data analytics and how to make that sexy! However, she's using the blog part of her website (Annielytics) to host a timeline on the case.  Link to her timeline on the case is here

I do believe that Joe Ryan, Annie Ryan Cushing's brother, was murdered by Lori/Alex, but that's just me.  Annie Ryan Cushing also has some serious points to make  about the incompetence of the Chandler, AZ police,  their investigation (or lack of it) into Charles' complaints about Lori, his subsequent murder and their lack of attention to Tylee's well being.    Cushing has a list of linked headings at the beginning of her  timeline and you can link to those "rants" there.  Definitely worth a read. 

I'll also take a moment to point out that more than one person has suspected, based on what she did to Charles Vallow leading up to and including his murder, that Lori is a domestic abuser.  

I missed the Dr. Phil show featuring this case and Ms. Cushing.  Maybe I can watch it online. 

Lori may be winging over the Pacific back to Idaho soon after her extradition hearing on March 2.

Lori Vallow's extradition from Hawaii to be expedited by Idaho governor in missing children's case

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Idaho Gov. Brad Little said Sunday he’s hoping to speed up the extradition process to get Lori Vallow back from Hawaii to face trial for charges connected to the disappearance of her two underage children, who have been missing since September...Little said he’s waiting for prosecutors in Madison County, Idaho, where the initial arrest warrant was issued, to send him the required paperwork so he can order Vallow’s extradition..."Come to our office. We'll run it through the system, and we'll send it back and it'll go to Hawaii for extradition. I hope there is justice, and I hope the children are found," the Republican governor told KMVT.

...Kauai County prosecuting attorney Justin Kollar asked the judge to push Vallow's extradition hearing to the second week of March to allow more time to gather evidence and witnesses. Authorities also need to verify Vallow’s identity before ordering her extradition, Fox 10 Phoenix reported...

..."Once they get over that hurdle the judge is gonna order the extradition to happen and then some agents from Idaho will be dispatched. They're probably already there waiting," Marc Victor, a legal expert with Freedom Law, told Fox 10 Phoenix. "It will be my guess they gotta bear the burden of the transport; they gotta show up in Kauai and pick her up, transport her back to Idaho. But you can pretty much bet your bottom dollar that that's gonna happen."

 

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Sadly I can't claim any impressive sleuthing. I periodically check the Instagram accounts of some of Doug's former subjects, mostly just to see if any new DPIART pseudonyms pop up in the comments or photo credits.

Destinee Cushing came onto the radar a couple of years ago when Doug, Faith, and Hannah Snow spent Easter in NYC. Destinee does that same loop most of the NYC cosplayers do, Jazz Age Lawn Party, Easter at the Plaza, the Shanghai Mermaid events, etc. I suspect Doug did that "Dance in the Park" video in exchange for a good review (it was on his Facebook for a long time) and word of mouth recommendations within that crowd.

I hadn't looked at Destinee's IG in awhile, but I was Doug stalking last night and decided to check it out, then ran across the "Missing" post purely by chance. I hadn't been following this case very closely, so I was like "wait, isn't that the doomsday cult couple?" and came here to see if there was anything about it on FJ. Btw, excellent thread, @Howl

Sorry if this was a derail, it was just so strange to see the connection pop up like that. Also, did Joe Ryan live in San Antonio? (I think something mentioned that it's where Lori's brother attacked him?). It's making me wonder if there's any connection between the Ryans and Vision Forum. I had originally assumed Doug's association with Destinee was more or less random due to the cosplay scene, but maybe there's more to it.

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2 hours ago, AnnaSofia said:

Also, did Joe Ryan live in San Antonio? (I think something mentioned that it's where Lori's brother attacked him?).

From Annie Ryan Cushing's timeline. 

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8/5/07: Alex Cox is arrested in Austin, TX for aggravated assault – second degree against Lori Vallow’s third husband, Joseph Ryan. Cox had used a stun gun against Ryan and threatened to kill him. Ryan had just finished a supervised visit with his four-year-old daughter, Tylee Ryan. Ryan injured his back and sprained his wrist in the fall. Cox spent 90 days in jail (source). 

I was fairly certain that some reports claim this happened on the Bexar County Courthouse steps in San Antonio, but I guess not. 

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Notable: Alex Cox went to jail for assaulting Ryan with a stun gun and allegedly threatened to kill Ryan (source). Also, Lori Vallow was the only next of kin the ME’s office had at the time of Ryan’s death. She never returned any of their calls or notified me of my brother’s passing, even though we had been friends since 2002 and she had my contact info. There was also no funeral for him. Another family member was contacted by a funeral home more than a month after he had died.

When Annie Cushing visited Tylee (Joe's bio daughter) after she found out about Joe's death, she found Lori to be totally cold on the topic of Joe Ryan's death, and everyone pretending like nothing had happened. 

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Lori is going back to court tomorrow to get her bail reduced from $5 million. 

Also, Chad apparently has $152,000 in a Kauai bank account.

 

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I haven't been sucked into something like this where I'm checking in on multiple sources multiple times on the daily since the (Mormon adjacent) occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. 

There's a (sometimes) interesting thread on Lori/Chad on the LDS Freedom Forum.  They get completely derailed on theological issues at times. It's interesting because there is the bible, Mormon scripture and then the books, groups, gatherings, conferences, podcasts and teachings related to Preparing a People (who have denounced Chad and Lori) and Another Voice of Warning.   Julie Rowe (a Chad frenemy) and Hector Sosa (PTZ).  It's all about visions, piercing the veil, reincarnations (multiple probations) and End Times. I'm not sure what Hector Sosa is about, but he's dissolving his group in a few days, donating their assets to charity and Swiffering all accounts, member lists, whatever.  There's an element of paranoia that the Mormon bishops are coming for members of his group.  All of this is discussed, along with regular speculation and updates about Lori and Chad.  They are up to 40 pages.  You can check them out on their News about Chad Daybell (and Lori Vallow) thread.

 

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Odd little detail from Annie Ryan Cushing's Cast of Characters. 

Melani (Lori's niece) married Ian Pawlowski 4.5 months after Ian Pawlowski was divorced and less than two weeks after she and Brandon Boudreaux were divorced.  Melani and Brandon's divorce seems to have dragged on for awhile. 

In April of 2019,  Ian Robert Pawlowski seems to have been found not guilty on a Domestic Violence-Violation of Protection Order.  He also pops up on LinkedIn as a Customer Care Supervisor at Melaleuca:  The Wellness Company, in Rexburg, although he and Melani have now moved to AZ. 

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Odd little detail from Annie Ryan Cushing's Cast of Characters. 
Melani (Lori's niece) married Ian Pawlowski 4.5 months after Ian Pawlowski was divorced and less than two weeks after she and Brandon Boudreaux were divorced.  Melani and Brandon's divorce seems to have dragged on for awhile. 
In April of 2019,  Ian Robert Pawlowski seems to have been found not guilty on a Domestic Violence-Violation of Protection Order.  He also pops up on LinkedIn as a Customer Care Supervisor at Melaleuca:  The Wellness Company, in Rexburg, although he and Melani have now moved to AZ. 

Was the attempt on Brandon’s life before or after their divorce?
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2 hours ago, justwatching said:

Was the attempt on Brandon’s life before or after their divorce?

That attempt was October 2, 2019 and the divorce was finalized around mid November. 

 Melani abruptly asked Brandon for a divorce in June (?) 2019; Brandon filed for divorce in July. I'd have to root around on timelines to sort out when Melani moved out and left the kids with Brandon; Melanie moved to Idaho with Lori, the kids and Alex sometime in August 2019. 

Melani married Ian Pawlowski in Vegas on 11/30/19, "less than two weeks after she and Brandon Boudreaux were divorced,*" hence my estimate of mid November for the divorce being finalized.

*according to Annie (Ryan) Cushing 

Lori's bond reduction hearing is scheduled for 2 pm Kauai time or 6 pm CST. 

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The hearing was live streamed from the courtroom.  The audio wasn't great and live stream kept refreshing about every 15 seconds, so it was all a bit choppy.  However, bail is confirmed at 5 million, because as the judge noted, the 5 million amount was confirmed at the first hearing, and confirmed still means confirmed.   

The way things transpired, I'm guessing that, ahead of the hearing, Lori had decided that if there is no bail reduction,  she wants to waive extradition and return to Idaho to, in the words of her lawyer, defend herself against these false allegations! 

Her lawyer implied that the reason she didn't produce the kids when required to do so by the State of Idaho was because "the government" would immediately take custody of the kids.  

The  camera was towards the front and to one side of the courtroom and it showed one half of those in attendance.  Chad was not visible in any of that video, but he could have been sitting on the other side of the court room. 

 

 

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Glad the judge saw through their bullshit. Here's some additional info on today's hearing:

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[Lori's attorney] De Costa added that he has never seen a Class B felony where bail was set at over $1 million, to which Kollar said none of them has seen such a case in their careers.

You can say that again, Mr. Kollar!

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EastIdahoNews.com confirmed that Chad was not at the hearing.  

At one point in the hearing, the camera zoomed in on Lori's feet.  She was wearing the orange jail jumpsuit, jail socks and jail slides and it looked like there were shackles on her ankles. 

Perhaps she thinks she can get out on bail in Idaho, when she returns.  If she can't come up with some live kids, won't she stay in jail?  

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There was a custody hearing today for Brandon Boudreaux and Melani Boudreaux Pawloski's four children.  Melani is Lori's niece. 

The kids are currently with Brandon, who took them and went into hiding after someone, likely Lori's brother, tried to shoot him in his driveway, but they are probably hiding out with Brandon's family in American Fork, Utah.  Melani was caught skulking around Brandon's parents house a few months ago and was charged with criminal trespass.  

Brandon was not at the hearing, but the knives are out.  Melani's lawyers claim that Brandon victimizes women, is heavily into "dark and extreme pornography," has  homosexual hookups and the family is into organized crime!  And wait, there's MORE! 

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Without offering any evidence of his claims, Smith [Melanie's lawyer] also accused the Boudreaux family of covering up child molestations, drug addictions, kidnappings, assaults and killings.

Ian strenuously denies Brandon's claim that Melani confessed to Ian that she had helped set up a hit on Brandon via Alex Cox.  Melani's lawyers claim that since Brandon's family is heavily involved in organized crime, many people might have tried to off Brandon in a drive-by shooting. 

Good grief.  

Niece of Lori Daybell says ex-husband’s claims are false, makes explosive allegations of her own

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This whole situation is just horrible, I don't blame Brandon for keeping his children away and hope he is able to obtain full custody. I wouldn't want my children around that family either too many horrible happenings going on surrounding them. 

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I gotta say, after reading about Tammy/Chad's mega bankruptcy awhile back (~$350,000 in debts), I think there was a scam afoot to off Joe Ryan, Charles Vallow, Brandon Beaudreaux and sweet Tammy for insurance money. 

Lori seemed to be successful in attracting handsome, decent men with a lot of income. 

Idle speculation here: Joe's life insurance (I assuming he had some for Tylee) would have been managed by  *checks notes* Lori.  I have read nothing about this, so again, idle speculation. 

Brandon was successful in whatever line of bidness he was in, and was likely heavily insured since he has four kids and I'm guessing Miz Melanie didn't work outside the home.  The hit on Brandon was THIS CLOSE, but not successful. 

The plan went awry for the madcap murderers when it was discovered that Lori was not the beneficiary of the million-dollar policy on Charles Vallow.    

So now we're down to Tammy, whose life was worth a $400,000 payoff plus change. 

I gotta say, Chad was not the ultra fit and successful businessman that Lori has preferred in the past, but he did come through with Tammy's life insurance. 

I'll share a little story from around 30 years ago when I was working on a project in eastern central Utah.  Every few days a very average looking young local guy, definitely on the "traditional build" side of things, would show up to clean out the Port-a-potty.  A pretty young woman often accompanied him and it drove one of the guys on our crew crazy.  We had a long ride in the crew van out to the project site, and he'd go on and on, with "what's she see in him, anyway?".  Finally one of the women on our crew turned around, looked him right in the eye and said, "Maybe he has a really big dick."  As you can imagine, the subject was never brought up again.  Further aside, we chattered with the guy about his life in the small town.   He told us his grandfather was a polygamist.  I simply cannot imagine the number of relatives he has there.  He is probably related, literally, to every person that lives there. 

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Lori is going back to Idaho tonight (3/4/2020). Chad returned to ID last week. 

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Authorities await Vallow’s arrival in Idaho where she will face charges of desertion, nonsupport of dependent children, resisting or obstructing officers, criminal solicitation to commit a crime and contempt of court.

In addition to the missing children, Rexburg police are also investigating three suspicious deaths and an attempted murder that appear to point to Vallow and her current husband, Chad Daybell, who are allegedly tied to a “doomsday” cult.

The couple moved to Kauai shortly after Rexburg police arrived on their doorstep Nov. 26 asking about the children, Tylee Ryan, 17, and Joshua “J.J.” Vallow, 7.

Meanwhile Daybell, left Kauai Thursday and returned on Saturday to Rexburg, Idaho, according to news reports.

 

 

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I saw a brief video of Lori's court appearance where the authorities from Idaho were ready to fly her back to ID on the red-eye.  Lori's attorney asked the judge to order that she not be questioned on the flight, or if she was, that anything she said not be allowed to be used against her.  The Hawaiian judge said that once Lori was transferred to the custody of ID authorities, she (the judge) no longer had jurisdiction but understood why he was making the request and agreed to have it part of the record.  When Lori walked into the courtroom, she had on ankle cuffs (I guess that's what they are called) but I think her hands were not cuffed because as she stood next to her attorney, she crossed her arms over her chest.  It gave me the impression of someone who was annoyed by the whole business.  I think she thinks she can still get away with murder.

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The FBI is asking the public for any photos or videos they might have from trips to Yellowstone National Park last September when Tylee was last seen:

 

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19 hours ago, EmmieJ said:

It gave me the impression of someone who was annoyed by the whole business.  I think she thinks she can still get away with murder.

Yup.  When you are a Translated Being...

My speculation: FBI believes that Tylee was killed in Yellowstone and are trying to narrow search criteria to look for the body. Alex has murdered Charles Vallow  and (I personally think) Joe Ryan and possibly poisoned Tammy or provided Chad with the means to poison/kill Tammy.  It's not a stretch that he would do in Tylee.  Lori and Alex: Psychopath brother and sister?

Dark, dark, dark, I know.  But it's pretty much where it's at. 

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