JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

[DillyDally]

1 hour ago, HereticHick said:

We might need to start discussing our holiday nail art plans...

Duvets... Discuss!

[viii]

3 hours ago, artdecades said:

rebecca minkoff on the other hand is a large international brand and household name. They surely have multiple high paid publicists and social media managers. That oversight is incredible. 

I feel like a lot of the time these companies are fully aware, and don't cancel unless there is backlash. 

[Bazinga]

I'm of the maybe unpopular opinion here (I don't follow closely enough to know), that I don't feel like any of these Duggar girls have real jobs just because they are trying to shill crap online. I really don't care if they earn money doing it, they are extremely entitled, lazy, and most do the bare minimum when discussing their sponsored posts (wish always make me wonder how sponsors still work with them). Are they excited they have opportunities to make money like this? Sure. Am I giving them back pats for doing it? Hell no! I would eat my sock if any of these people got a real, blue or white collar working job. Like Tori for instance. The girl spent all that time getting her teaching degree. No way she is actually going to use it (aside for her homeschooling pursuits). If she ever became a full time teacher (even at a private school), I would be impressed. But I don't think we will see that happen. As for Jinger specifically, I think she really loves her some fame and money. I truly think we will see them start denouncing everything they have preached in the past, NOT because they mean any of it and truly changed, but because they want that monnnney baby. I would truly be cautious of them if they start having a "change of heart". 

[HereticHick]

26 minutes ago, DillyDally said:

Duvets... Discuss!

My duvet and my nails are both peanut butter-colored

[Rachel333]

3 hours ago, TuringMachine said:

Refined sugar isn't vegetarian either. They use cow bones in the process.

Eh, that one is more of a grey area since bone char is only used in the refining and not part of the final product. It's impossible to completely avoid buying products that have caused harm to animals or have had animal products used somewhere in the process, which is why veganism is usually defined as excluding animal products "as far as is possible and practical." A lot of vegetarians aren't too worried about sugar, and even PETA recommends not stressing about it.

[TuringMachine]

8 minutes ago, Rachel333 said:

Eh, that one is more of a grey area since bone char is only used in the refining and not part of the final product. It's impossible to completely avoid buying products that have caused harm to animals or have had animal products used somewhere in the process, which is why veganism is usually defined as excluding animal products "as far as is possible and practical." A lot of vegetarians aren't too worried about sugar, and even PETA recommends not stressing about it.

I only mentioned it because I know a couple of vegans who do care, so it's something to keep in mind if you're cooking for someone who is avoiding animal products. Personally, I'm not even vegetarian.

[Rachel333]

13 minutes ago, TuringMachine said:

I only mentioned it because I know a couple of vegans who do care, so it's something to keep in mind if you're cooking for someone who is avoiding animal products. Personally, I'm not even vegetarian.

True, plenty do care! It's just not quite as absolute as saying that something with, say, is non-vegetarian. Wine is kind of a similar case where animal products are often used in the fining process but are filtered out of the final product, so you'll get various opinions from vegetarians on wine.

A weird one that a lot of people are unaware of is figs. In an example of mutualism and co-evolution, figs are pollinated by wasps. The female wasp crawls inside the fig to lay her eggs, dies, and the fig digests her, so when you eat that fig you are eating the product of a digested wasp. Now, this varies by fig species, and most commercially grown figs in the US are self-pollinating, but it's a concern for some vegetarians and vegans. Here's an article about it, and here's a page that presents both sides when it comes to veganism.

[Iamtheway]

1 hour ago, HereticHick said:

My duvet and my nails are both peanut butter-colored

But do you wear your shoes inside? 

14 minutes ago, Rachel333 said:

A weird one that a lot of people are unaware of is figs. In an example of mutualism and co-evolution, figs are pollinated by wasps. The female wasp crawls inside the fig to lay her eggs, dies, and the fig digests her, so when you eat that fig you are eating the product of a digested wasp. Now, this varies by fig species, and most commercially grown figs in the US are self-pollinating, but it's a concern for some vegetarians and vegans. Here's an article about it, and here's a page that presents both sides when it comes to veganism.

But that is a natural process though. I understand some people might not want to eat a digested wasp but for me a big part of eating (mostly) vegetarian is how the industry works and that I don’t want to support animal suffering. If they crawl in and die on their own as part of their reproducing I would not worry about it.

The refined sugar makes me sad though. Candy is my biggest weakness and there was already the gelatin and the palm oil to look out for. Now what? 

[FluffySnowball]

1 hour ago, Rachel333 said:

Eh, that one is more of a grey area since bone char is only used in the refining and not part of the final product. It's impossible to completely avoid buying products that have caused harm to animals or have had animal products used somewhere in the process, which is why veganism is usually defined as excluding animal products "as far as is possible and practical." A lot of vegetarians aren't too worried about sugar, and even PETA recommends not stressing about it.

True! A diet still needs to be practical. But I just fairly recently (like a year ago or so) learnt that there’s vegan wine. So apparently when the liquid gets filtered or something, a cow blather is sometimes used, making the product not acceptable for consumption according to the standards of many vegans. However, when another, not animal-based filter is used, the wine is vegan. Who’d have thought about that? I certainly didn’t! (I’m not vegan btw, I’m vegetarian, but I find the whole topic quite interesting) Now, let’s continue with duvets ?

[theotherelise]

I thought my cheap "parmesan" was mostly sawdust?! lol

But actually because I've been running out the clock on my workday, I decided to investigate. I DO use kroger parmesan and was curious. They have answered this question on facebook and the enzymes used are microbial, so it is vegetarian safe:

"Kroger Hey Ash, We researched this for you and the enzymes are a microbial source. If you have any other concerns you are more than welcome to call our Product Department at (800) 632-6900."

https://www.facebook.com/Kroger/posts/are-your-kroger-brand-shredded-cheeses-vegetarian-safe-they-all-just-state-enzym/10154122996518218/

[Rachel333]

14 minutes ago, Iamtheway said:

But that is a natural process though. I understand some people might not want to eat a digested wasp but for me a big part of eating (mostly) vegetarian is how the industry works and that I don’t want to support animal suffering. If they crawl in and die on their own as part of their reproducing I would not worry about it.

Sure, and a lot of vegetarians feel the same way. Personally, while I care a lot about opposing animal suffering, I think the main reason I'm vegetarian is because I just hate the idea of eating animals (I didn't even know vegetarianism was a thing when I made that decision as a child, I just knew I didn't want to eat animals), so while I don't have ethical objections to eating figs, I do find the idea gross enough that it has made me not want to eat figs anymore. 

[Destiny]

58 minutes ago, theotherelise said:

I thought my cheap "parmesan" was mostly sawdust?! lol

Nope, it's recycled grocery bags and almost entirely plastic, but oh so delicious! LOL

[TuringMachine]

21 minutes ago, Destiny said:

Nope, it's recycled grocery bags and almost entirely plastic, but oh so delicious! LOL

As a Californian: plastic grocery bags? 

[Destiny]

1 minute ago, TuringMachine said:

As a Californian: plastic grocery bags? 

Of course, but the pre-ban ones. Not the heavier ones!

[Beermeet]

As a Californian,  I understand these jokes!  The heavier 10 cent ones would make terrible cheese.  

[Destiny]

Just now, Beermeet said:

As a Californian,  I understand these jokes!  The heavier 10 cent ones would make terrible cheese.  

The 10 cent ones are what they make the terrible plastic wrapped American "cheese" from. This is fact! ?

[Beermeet]

3 minutes ago, Destiny said:

The 10 cent ones are what they make the terrible plastic wrapped American "cheese" from. This is fact! ?

Or, maybe the heavy 10 centers ARE made of American "cheese"!  ?

[Destiny]

1 minute ago, Beermeet said:

Or, maybe the heavy 10 centers ARE made of American "cheese"!  ?

Ooh, that's a possibility too. There's just no way that crap isn't, like, 97% plastic. I'm not sure of the order but the relationship is DEFINITELY fact. 

 

[Whydon'ttheyspeakintongues]

Poor Jinger - she's trying so hard to be the trendy, cool one!  But hair dye, jeans and lessons in conturing can't hide ugly beliefs.

[just_ordinary]

Well, it’s not as if they kill the calves to just get their stomach. As long as people eat meat I am all for using every possible piece of it. So the calve gets killed for its meat but if the organs and bones get used too that’s much better than throwing them away in my books. 

We live in a world where almost every food we eat has in its production killed hundreds of animals. Crops, fruits and vegetables are high in pesticides and massive mono cultivation kills millions of small animals (and I am not talking insects here). And corn, soy and life stock are often a reason for cutting down rain forest. We dry out land, compact ground, contaminate our water with fertiliser and fly avocados, bananas, quinoa, rice and cocoa around the world just because we want it. 

I am not shaming vegetarians or vegans. Treating animals with respect is a huge concern for me and I totally understand why someone would refrain from meat or all animal products even though it’s not for me. The meat industry plays also a big factor in environmental questions. I am rather concerned that we as humans always find a way of fucking things up. Instead of cutting back we often overdo it. Because a farmer in a third world country that butchers 4 cows (and use every single piece of it) a year is much less of a problem than a first world vegan that eats tons of superfoods that had to be transported around the world. 

And vegan wine is a myth because almost every bottle contains the reminiscence of several dead insects. Same for juice. There no way to prevent it. 

[Whydon'ttheyspeakintongues]

As someone who has been a vegetarian for decades (a decision I made when I was 11) all I can say is that what you consider to be acceptable to eat and still be a vegetarian is an entirely personal decision (which may also change over time).   There are almost as many variations on what is considered vegetarian as there are vegetarians themselves. 

Having copped the brunt of quite a bit of rude and judgmental crap over my life time (which I find refreshingly absent on this thread) I really think that it truly needs to be a case of 'each to their own'.

[MarblesMom]

Until this moment, I had no clue how many CA peeps OR plastic bags OR vegetarians were near.  Welcoming all.

DO NOT EAT EACH OTHER.   Soylent Green Is People!

[theotherelise]

Portlandias bag taliban skit made me laugh today after seeing the thread...

 

[CreatedToBeACritic]

uhm, my website is live. please let me know if there are glaring mistakes on it or if any of you have good content to include.

https://jingernicolevuolo.com/

[Charliemae]

 

1 hour ago, CreatedToBeACritic said:

uhm, my website is live. please let me know if there are glaring mistakes on it or if any of you have good content to include.

https://jingernicolevuolo.com/

I would take that down. I don't know much about the law, but using someone's full name like that seems like libel. 

JinJer should stick with trying to profit off of his low level celebrity.   Pictures at soccer games and cute pics of their kid with a ball go over well with every demographic. Instead they want to be exactly like Jim Bob and Michelle except instead of red necks they think they're intellectuals.  That is not a look they can pull off well and they will consistently be called out.