JinJer 51: Can't Even Sell Donuts!

[Pleiades_06]

3 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

First, Jinger has not really made it big. Her parents had a lot of kids that they couldn't support, and were lucky to be the first inline when reality tv and the genre of freak shows arrived. That’s it. Currently she and her narcissistic, lazy husband are riding on coattails as long as they can, and after that, it’s anyone’s guess as to how successful they might ultimately be. I do think the Duggars who practice some sort of reproductive planning/control, and those with some education and skills will ultimately fare better. In this regard, the Vuolos, Forsyths and Dillards’s financial outlooks will likely be better than the various male Duggars and the Seewalds.

I agree she has really not made it big-my point was that, in some people’s opinions (read: fundies) it appears she’s made it big because she’s on social media/tv. She’s a role model for people out there and has basically done nothing to earn it

[medimus]

On 1/20/2020 at 6:02 PM, just_ordinary said:

And I do wonder: with all the headlines of a medical doctor shortage. Where are they? If the courses are full- where do they go? Are they all finding places in the cities? And why don’t you even get an appointment with a specialist easily in a city? Do we really need much more doctors than 15 years ago? 

Sorry for the long text. Just couldn’t stop..

We need more doctors because older people are more ill and there are more older people. In most of Europe the birth rate has been under replacement rate (2.1) for a while now, which means the ratio of old people to doctors is even more out of kilter than it would be if we were just living longer.

The other thing is that if universities have a maximum number of places for medicine (or nursing or physiotherapy etc) and those are not alligned to the number of doctors necessary two decades down the line, then it is definitely possible for courses to be full and for there not to be enough doctors.

On a more general higher education topic, it is possible for universities not to run application systems. Where I grew up you just rocked up to the university you wanted to go to in August/September the year you were going to start. You needed ID and your secondary school diploma and that was it. The only courses this wasn't true for was medicine (did an entrance exam in July) and things like music which had auditions to check that you were at an appropriate level.

This system did have an incredibly high first year failure rate (more than 50% for the vast majority of courses), but that didn't stop you from continuing, you might just have to repeat a few exams. But it was also cheap (600 euro a year full price, discounted price A 350 ish, and B 80 euro a year). It is possible, though I think they have made it much more expensive since I left 

[sixcatatty]

5 hours ago, HereticHick said:

Forget about the old bat teacher. Reach out a hand to the smart but poor kids behind you that need a leg up.  Seek them out as interns. Take them to lunch. Give them advice. Expect things from them. Keep in touch with them.

For those of us who have "made it" against the odds--that's our duty.  I can't fix a broken higher ed system. But railing against Harvard et al doesn't solve anything either. I can do a lot more good in the world mentoring a young person than bitching about the Ivy League.

Your being a public defender is awesome, by the way.

 

Thank you. Interesting you mentioned paying it forward. I've done that. I can count at least 10--not enough by far--in the last 20 years.

[SilverBeach]

On 1/20/2020 at 9:25 AM, JanasTattooParlor said:

The culture says that being a well educated black student is showing your whiteness and those students get shunned by other black people in the school. It makes me so sad as I’ve watched a few of my students this year start off as strong students and then drop off after the first quarter of school because their peers are telling them school doesn’t matter and it only matters to get by. It seems like no amount of encouragement helps either because they care more about what their peers think than what I think.

Parents, churches, mentors, all can help combat this nonsense about school and learning being a white thing. Sometimes the best students get the chance to go to an an out of neighborhood magnet or charter school or something. Poor black chidren are fed a diet of entertainment and sports starts and think those are realistic career asperations. Academically gifted black children are not celebrated at all. Some poor parents stress education, it's a stereotype that they don't care. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

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