Andrea Mills 3: Still Buying Junk Food

[Justsum1twothree]

19 minutes ago, louannems said:

I watched the most recent package opening, but I didn't see it live.  I didn't see him open Rachel's hard-to-open gifts, though.  I wonder if he edited the livestream and cut it out?  I did watch late at night, in bed, though, so maybe I snoozed and missed it.

 

The package opening from Rachel was in Tom’s birthday video.

[WhatAlife]

5 hours ago, louannems said:

Eden was once again ignored.  She is such a quiet, sweet girl without girl friends, or school, or gymnastics or anything else except that overly large, loud family.  She is truly a Lost Girl in a family where the older brothers are lumped together and the little girls are lumped together.  Even while Andrea was all alive I felt they both ignored Eden.

 

I noticed that too in many of the videos. Why is that?  Why was she so invisible to her mom as well? 
You would think Andrea would be over the moon to have a daughter after 4 boys. 
Then again, maybe it’s the middle child syndrome? Lost in the mix?

Honestly, they always ignored Hannah too.  She seems developmentally delayed to me,like you say-not strong enough to toddle around and explore like kids her age should. I couldn’t believe that she just stayed on that blanket back in the summer during the Live dinner in the park ( when they were on their way back from the conference) .  Usually one year olds just dart off! 

[Saywha?]

I watched the recent package opening where he is sick and my heart breaks when he says Hannah is hungry but they spend an hour opening crap from strangers. Where are his priorities???

 

I also pray to god those kids aren’t refused dental care any longer going forward. Those kids deserve access. No matter what he cares about don’t refuse kids proper health care. That is so tragic to watch.  
 

in all I don’t think he’s doing a terrible job. He’s just a sadly very uneducated man in many way. 

[Pleiades_06]

People have been saying how chaotic learning in that house must be, but it never really struck me until I watched the birthday video.  Of all the things they do, it’s the educational part that makes me fume. Andrea presented a much calmer (edited) version of homeschool, but The “Judah Cam” can shows how crazy it is. And the ACE curriculum is total and utter shite. 

[Saywha?]

4 minutes ago, Pleiades_06 said:

People have been saying how chaotic learning in that house must be, but it never really struck me until I watched the birthday video.  Of all the things they do, it’s the educational part that makes me fume. Andrea presented a much calmer (edited) version of homeschool, but The “Judah Cam” can shows how crazy it is. And the ACE curriculum is total and utter shite. 

I would have to agree. Especially watching how some of the kids are wild and have trouble controlling themselves In his streams. They repeatedly have to be told to sit down. Would be super refreshing if each morning they were allowed to go to school and learn in a formal setting

[there_is_no_fun_in_fundie]

I caught some of the live game night tonight. Tom’s going to reduce the live game nights to twice a month and have game night just with the family the rest of the time. Good for him. I hope that gives the kids some more meaningful one on one time with him.

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but Rachel Day is so creepy. She was all over the chat answering questions down to the local weather where the Mill’s live... Like without pause meaning she knew off hand what the weather was there this week... Also someone asked about Asher and if he was doing ok, and she fired off almost right away that he didn’t want to participate tonight. I have no idea if Tom mentioned it earlier in the feed, because otherwise, how could she possibly know that? So creepy. They need to get a restraining order.

[Saywha?]

1 minute ago, there_is_no_fun_in_fundie said:

I caught some of the live game night tonight. Tom’s going to reduce the live game nights to twice a month and have game night just with the family the rest of the time. Good for him. I hope that gives the kids some more meaningful one on one time with him.

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but Rachel Day is so creepy. She was all over the chat answering questions down to the local weather where the Mill’s live... Like without pause meaning she knew off hand what the weather was there this week... Also someone asked about Asher and if he was doing ok, and she fired off almost right away that he didn’t want to participate tonight. I have no idea if Tom mentioned it earlier in the feed, because otherwise, how could she possibly know that? So creepy. They need to get a restraining order.

Thomas was sharing updates so I have no idea why she felt the need to insert herself in the task of a teen age family member. Let him do his thing. She just Hoovers. It is really sad. 

[Sloth]

5 minutes ago, there_is_no_fun_in_fundie said:

I caught some of the live game night tonight. Tom’s going to reduce the live game nights to twice a month and have game night just with the family the rest of the time. Good for him. I hope that gives the kids some more meaningful one on one time with him.

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but Rachel Day is so creepy. She was all over the chat answering questions down to the local weather where the Mill’s live... Like without pause meaning she knew off hand what the weather was there this week... Also someone asked about Asher and if he was doing ok, and she fired off almost right away that he didn’t want to participate tonight. I have no idea if Tom mentioned it earlier in the feed, because otherwise, how could she possibly know that? So creepy. They need to get a restraining order.

I totally agree about Rachel, I actually think Tom should be a bit worried about her because with his business being at his home, their address would be easily found, guessing she probably already has it. She comes across as someone who would become a crazy stalker ?

 

I hope reducing the game nights means Tom is taking on board what people are saying about stepping up and being a proper dad.

[SilverBeach]

2 hours ago, Saywha? said:

in all I don’t think he’s doing a terrible job.

He's doing an absolutely shitty job. 

[OMG]

On 11/11/2019 at 11:23 AM, can'tstopwatching said:

In the package-opening live, Rachel is without mod status but still responding to the chat as if she were a mod. Thomas is on the chat as a mod and someone asked him if he would take college classes next year, and Rachel responded for him that he's not. What a strange thing to do. They don't want the answer from her, they want to have a conversation with Thomas, and I'm sure they'd be fine if he missed it and didn't answer. Just because he has said no to that before doesn't mean that's still his answer.

WOW. That's just soooo beyond inappropriate! She's certainly brazen with her arrogancy. I'd be very angry if this *person* answered for me (but I'd be flat out FURIOUS if she answered for my minor child!) This is arrogancy to the max. 

I've a feeling this will not end well. Yikes.

[OMG]

30 minutes ago, there_is_no_fun_in_fundie said:

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but Rachel Day is so creepy. She was all over the chat answering questions down to the local weather where the Mill’s live... Like without pause meaning she knew off hand what the weather was there this week... Also someone asked about Asher and if he was doing ok, and she fired off almost right away that he didn’t want to participate tonight. I have no idea if Tom mentioned it earlier in the feed, because otherwise, how could she possibly know that? So creepy. They need to get a restraining order.

Does anyone know where she lives? I mean, is she close in proximity to this family? And does she not have children of her own?? How does she have the time to devote hours to these dumb videos almost every night? I. don't. get. it. 

[Olivia Marie]

Tom is Live right now.  I only lasted five minutes.  I cannot stomach that loser.   Hard headed narcissistic  azz wipe.    The saying holds true.....his way, or the highway.    He is an authority on everything - just ask him.   

He needs to get rid of that freakin’ Alexa.  

The one thing I heard tonight is that he might not being doing as many Lives.  He should NOT do any Lives.     I have a suspicion this might have something to do with Rachel.   Maybe he finally realized she is a stalker, and that she is NOT going away.   He let her be his “spokeswoman”,  now he is going to pay the price for allowing that to happen.   Good luck with that, Tommy boy.   He probably found out she’s ready to leave her husband who isn’t even 10% of the man Tom is ?

Edited November 13, 2019 by Olivia Marie

[FreeFundiesKids]

48 minutes ago, Olivia Marie said:

The one thing I heard tonight is that he might not being doing as many Lives.  He should NOT do any Lives.     I have a suspicion this might have something to do with Rachel.   Maybe he finally realized she is a stalker, and that she is NOT going away.   He let her be his “spokeswoman”,  now he is going to pay the price for allowing that to happen.   Good luck with that, Tommy boy.   He probably found out she’s ready to leave her husband who isn’t even 10% of the man Tom is ?

I agree!! She is showing some alarming obsession with Mills family and Tom. I just rewatched some old lives when Andrea was still alive. I have noticed that Rachel never commented on live chat prior to Andrea's death. 

[Giraffe]

4 hours ago, Sloth said:

I totally agree about Rachel, I actually think Tom should be a bit worried about her because with his business being at his home, their address would be easily found, guessing she probably already has it. She comes across as someone who would become a crazy stalker ?

 

I hope reducing the game nights means Tom is taking on board what people are saying about stepping up and being a proper dad.

I completely agree with your first paragraph. Sadly I doubt him reducing the number of lives and public game nights is anything other than him growing tired of defending himself. 

[under siege]

7 hours ago, OMG said:

Does anyone know where she lives? I mean, is she close in proximity to this family? And does she not have children of her own?? How does she have the time to devote hours to these dumb videos almost every night? I. don't. get. it. 

Tom has been asked that very question more than once. He's said that Rachel isn't a real-life family friend and doesn't live close by.

I mentioned weeks back that this was getting into dangerous territory and sadly, it looks like it's only now that Tom has started to realize that Rachel's keenness to help out was not as an innocent 'fan'.
Sometimes, obsession is not limited to the internet, nor is being married or having kids. I'm not going to speculate on worst case scenarios but I've witnessed similar in my work.  The Mills house is easy to get to and by the time something may happen the authorities, being so limited in that area as far as first responders, may not be able to be there to help in time.
Tom needs to be very careful. He shouldn't cut Rachel out suddenly and completely without taking care to have his home and family protected. He is now responsible for Rachel's state of being as well since he encouraged so much that is now the obsessive behaviour.
This is why you should not allow a complete stranger into your life, even be it virtual/online, without making sure you know who that person is. Kids are involved and not just the Mills kids.

I went to check out Rachel's channel to see if I could find where she's located. I didn't find that but two things of interest.
1) She is getting as many, or more, thumps down on recent videos than thumbs up.
2) She's 'featured' FOUR Mills family channels including Judah's and Eden's channels. As she was only a mod for the main channel this alone was overstepping the mark and should have been stopped by Tom.

 

[Saywha?]

I think I saw someone say she lived in Michigan. In fact it may have been one of her videos maybe  

[justlooking]

I watched the whole live chat bullsh** last night.  I may need to stop watching him - I don't like to bring negative into my life and I find myself anxious to get to the computer so I can post my anger about what I'm seeing.  That can't be good....But - he sat there the whole time answering a few family questions then the rest of the time it's Tom-on-his-throne dictating his bible verses.  He won't go to a church because he doesn't want someone telling him how to believe or how to translate the bible, but he's sitting there telling everyone HIS ideas on the translation......Makes me sick.  He's so obviously insecure.  He mentioned his addiction to porn and gaming in the past again.  He also mentioned AGAIN that he USED to have a couple of people he could talk to but that's gone now....WHAT IS THAT??????  He's said that 500 times in these live chats and I don't get it.  Wonder what happened there.  I was following the chats most of the time and someone asked him if Andrea breastfed all her babies - AND FUCK*** RACHAEL DAY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Dear God, If we pray for anything for that family - it needs to be that Rachael Day goes away quietly without issues....That is totally scary stuff there.  Why in the WORLD would he put so much trust into her?  When he has so much to lose if something goes wrong?  You just don't know anyone on the internet - we teach our children that every....single....day.  Oh, the topping on the cake, friends - is that he mentioned it was 17 degrees there - you could see out the window behind him that there was snow everywhere and guess who started crying and wouldn't stop?  Right?  So he goes to pick up Hanna and brings her to his chair........GUESS WHAT SHE HAD ON???????????? GUESS!!!!!!...................A DIAPER.  A FREAKING DIAPER.  THAT IS IT.   My stomach dropped to my knees.  Someone mentioned isn't she cold or something and he said NO it was 78 degrees in the house and it was hot.  Has this been mentioned yet on this board?  Am I the only one that is totally freaked out by this?  Maybe I'm just a prude.  I only had one child and she's gone to college now........but for the life of me I just can't believe it......

[justlooking]

Sorry!  I just have one more thing to say here - ha!  What was Claudia doing with the constant licking of her hands and rubbing her face all night?  She even licked tom on the shoulder once.  Thomas reached over several times and gently asked her to stop - and she said STOP IT to him so he backed off.  I'm sure not wanting to make a scene live.  Maybe she continued it just to upset him - ha!  but I have never seen anything like it.  It was licking and pulling on her mouth and licking her hands and rubbing her face and licking and licking.......just so weird.  Maybe she was sick?  Runny nose or something?  I just don't get it.  OH, also, Tom said he KNEW he was the best dad in the world - or best dad there is - something like that. Ok, thanks for letting me vent....ha!

[under siege]

14 minutes ago, justlooking said:

Sorry!  I just have one more thing to say here - ha!  What was Claudia doing with the constant licking of her hands and rubbing her face all night?  She even licked tom on the shoulder once.  Thomas reached over several times and gently asked her to stop - and she said STOP IT to him so he backed off.  I'm sure not wanting to make a scene live.  Maybe she continued it just to upset him - ha!  but I have never seen anything like it.  It was licking and pulling on her mouth and licking her hands and rubbing her face and licking and licking.......just so weird.  Maybe she was sick?  Runny nose or something?  I just don't get it.  OH, also, Tom said he KNEW he was the best dad in the world - or best dad there is - something like that. Ok, thanks for letting me vent....ha!

I've often wondered about Claudia. Some think she is adorable, feisty and independent. Even on here some people think she's the cutest of the Mills family.
I try not to diagnose when it comes to online families but I do believe Claudia is the one that will be the most troublesome as a tween/teen.  Andrea described her once was being frienemies with her siblings (when it came to describing which kids were closest together)
Now there isn't the constant parent, and there has been a major disruption/devastation in her life,  the situation with her is not good for her at all (Nor is it for any of the kids)
idd behaviours are being brushed off as 'adapting to change' and the like but this little girl needs to be watched and I don't' mean online by thousands of Tom's 'youtube people'.

[justlooking]

19 minutes ago, under siege said:

I've often wondered about Claudia. Some think she is adorable, feisty and independent. Even on here some people think she's the cutest of the Mills family.
I try not to diagnose when it comes to online families but I do believe Claudia is the one that will be the most troublesome as a tween/teen.  Andrea described her once was being frienemies with her siblings (when it came to describing which kids were closest together)
Now there isn't the constant parent, and there has been a major disruption/devastation in her life,  the situation with her is not good for her at all (Nor is it for any of the kids)
idd behaviours are being brushed off as 'adapting to change' and the like but this little girl needs to be watched and I don't' mean online by thousands of Tom's 'youtube people'.

I totally agree.  Very sad.  You know she won't get any extra attention.........Andrea was always there during the day to give Claudia gentle guidance, and I'm sure it's weird to now have to get that from your siblings.  Must be so confusing.  Tom also said last night that Claudia keeps asking where her Mom is and he said SHE DIED.......Can't he be a little more gentle?  Geez.  She's in heaven with Jesus now......or something sweet and nurturing instead of so brazen.  I know that's his belief - so why just say she's DEAD - I would tell her Mommy was sick and now shes in heaven with Jesus but she will always love you, etc.  I know he wants to always say the TRUTH, that he wants death to be a part of their lives.  Ok, got it. But how about a little sweetness too?  

49 minutes ago, justlooking said:

 

 

Edited November 13, 2019 by justlooking

[formergothardite]

12 hours ago, Pleiades_06 said:

People have been saying how chaotic learning in that house must be, but it never really struck me until I watched the birthday video.  Of all the things they do, it’s the educational part that makes me fume. Andrea presented a much calmer (edited) version of homeschool, but The “Judah Cam” can shows how crazy it is. And the ACE curriculum is total and utter shite. 

Andrea didn't give them that much of an education, but unless the family has really stepped in to teach, they are probably getting even less now. Those poor kids need to be put in school, but I doubt Tom will do that. 

58 minutes ago, justlooking said:

A DIAPER.  A FREAKING DIAPER.  THAT IS IT.   My stomach dropped to my knees.  Someone mentioned isn't she cold or something and he said NO it was 78 degrees in the house and it was hot.  Has this been mentioned yet on this board?  Am I the only one that is totally freaked out by this?  Maybe I'm just a prude.  I only had one child and she's gone to college now........but for the life of me I just can't believe it.....

My oldest never wore clothing as a child. At 78 the house is pretty warm. Was it wise to show his child in only a diaper to the world? No. But just wearing a diaper around the house isn't that big of a deal. I don't really understand how that is weird. 

[justlooking]

3 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

Andrea didn't give them that much of an education, but unless the family has really stepped in to teach, they are probably getting even less now. Those poor kids need to be put in school, but I doubt Tom will do that. 

My oldest never wore clothing as a child. At 78 the house is pretty warm. Was it wise to show his child in only a diaper to the world? No. But just wearing a diaper around the house isn't that big of a deal. I don't really understand how that is weird. 

 

3 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

Andrea didn't give them that much of an education, but unless the family has really stepped in to teach, they are probably getting even less now. Those poor kids need to be put in school, but I doubt Tom will do that. 

My oldest never wore clothing as a child. At 78 the house is pretty warm. Was it wise to show his child in only a diaper to the world? No. But just wearing a diaper around the house isn't that big of a deal. I don't really understand how that is weird. 

That's fair - my daughter would have been cold in just a diaper.  Wouldn't have happened in my house but I get it.

Edited November 13, 2019 by justlooking

[mollysmom]

I'm one of the ones who adores Claudia. I think she is just the cutest thing ever. A handful....yes...but in my opinion a super cute handful. I'm not sure if it's because she reminds me of myself as a little girl (before that little attitude got beat out of me) but yeah....I'm a fan of Claudia for sure.

 

I was recently watching one of their live dinners from probably about a year ago & Andrea was having a hard time finding the live chat on her phone. She turned to Asher (who was sitting next to her) and asked him to help her find it. Tom GRABBED the phone out of her hand & did it himself. A few minutes later he did the exact same thing. I'm very aware that I'm sensitive but I thought that was so unbelievable rude. I honestly couldn't believe it. He was treating her like shit. And she just sat there and took it. That really pissed me off. I've said before & I'll say it again, if this is how Tom acts while the camera is rolling I'm afraid to know how he acts when he doesn't have all these people watching. 

[justlooking]

4 minutes ago, mollysmom said:

I'm one of the ones who adores Claudia. I think she is just the cutest thing ever. A handful....yes...but in my opinion a super cute handful. I'm not sure if it's because she reminds me of myself as a little girl (before that little attitude got beat out of me) but yeah....I'm a fan of Claudia for sure.

 

I was recently watching one of their live dinners from probably about a year ago & Andrea was having a hard time finding the live chat on her phone. She turned to Asher (who was sitting next to her) and asked him to help her find it. Tom GRABBED the phone out of her hand & did it himself. A few minutes later he did the exact same thing. I'm very aware that I'm sensitive but I thought that was so unbelievable rude. I honestly couldn't believe it. He was treating her like shit. And she just sat there and took it. That really pissed me off. I've said before & I'll say it again, if this is how Tom acts while the camera is rolling I'm afraid to know how he acts when he doesn't have all these people watching. 

Last year I was watching one of her videos and Andrea and Claudia were in the kitchen and Claudia said something so funny and feisty we laughed so hard!  We even replayed it several times cracking up.  I loved how Andrea handled her - it seemed respectful of her feisty ways, but still gave her boundaries....

[Olivia Marie]

1 hour ago, justlooking said:

I watched the whole live chat bullsh** last night.  I may need to stop watching him - I don't like to bring negative into my life and I find myself anxious to get to the computer so I can post my anger about what I'm seeing.  That can't be good....But - he sat there the whole time answering a few family questions then the rest of the time it's Tom-on-his-throne dictating his bible verses.  He won't go to a church because he doesn't want someone telling him how to believe or how to translate the bible, but he's sitting there telling everyone HIS ideas on the translation......Makes me sick.  He's so obviously insecure.  He mentioned his addiction to porn and gaming in the past again.  He also mentioned AGAIN that he USED to have a couple of people he could talk to but that's gone now....WHAT IS THAT??????  He's said that 500 times in these live chats and I don't get it.  Wonder what happened there.  I was following the chats most of the time and someone asked him if Andrea breastfed all her babies - AND FUCK*** RACHAEL DAY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Dear God, If we pray for anything for that family - it needs to be that Rachael Day goes away quietly without issues....That is totally scary stuff there.  Why in the WORLD would he put so much trust into her?  When he has so much to lose if something goes wrong?  You just don't know anyone on the internet - we teach our children that every....single....day.  Oh, the topping on the cake, friends - is that he mentioned it was 17 degrees there - you could see out the window behind him that there was snow everywhere and guess who started crying and wouldn't stop?  Right?  So he goes to pick up Hanna and brings her to his chair........GUESS WHAT SHE HAD ON???????????? GUESS!!!!!!...................A DIAPER.  A FREAKING DIAPER.  THAT IS IT.   My stomach dropped to my knees.  Someone mentioned isn't she cold or something and he said NO it was 78 degrees in the house and it was hot.  Has this been mentioned yet on this board?  Am I the only one that is totally freaked out by this?  Maybe I'm just a prude.  I only had one child and she's gone to college now........but for the life of me I just can't believe it......

He.Is.Disgusting!!!!   A narcissistic POS.   Like you, watching him, and the total neglect of the children....sends my anxiety level into outer space, and I’m not an anxious person.  He makes me ragey!!!  Last night I could only watch about five minutes.  

When he says he used to have a couple of people to talk to, my radar goes off like a police car siren.   I bet a dollar to nothing those people are women.  Possibly they didn’t like stalker Rachel everywhere, because that’s where she is.   He has so many desperate chicks fawning and slobbering all over him, there have probably been some cat fights in his precious YouTube harem.   For a few days he was flying high, it was obvious he was in lust with someone.  Now he is very pissed.   Tommy sweetie, you play....you have to pay. 

I don’t  give a flip about what happens to Tom.  I do, however, care deeply about what is happening to the innocent and neglected children.  They are prisoners.     It rips my heart out ?

 

 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Olivia Marie