Medic Corps, a Duggar-Bates Totally Legitimate Humanitarian Organization

[Jinder Roles]

MediCorp and Medic Corp are two different organizations. I really hate them for picking a name that sounds legit and not a bunch of white missionaries cosplaying as qualified help.

 

[JDuggs]

5 minutes ago, Jinder Roles said:

MediCorp and Medic Corp are two different organizations. I really hate them for picking a name that sounds legit and not a bunch of white missionaries cosplaying as qualified help.

 

Do you have a link or any other information about MediCorp?

[marmalade]

Not sure why the quote function isn't working, but I wanted to piggyback on the NPR interview. Lawson was interviewed by FAUX this morning. I didn't see it because I never watch that network, but I would lay money that he was wearing his Air Pods. 🙄

[shesinsane]

For everyone wondering how to contribute to Haitian aid in a way that is likely to help the people of Haiti, Charity Navigator has a Haitian earthquake page (in their Hot Topics section) https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=8990

There are a lot of groups listed, each one has a rating of 1-4 stars and you can click on each org to find out more about them (including program expense ratios that clearly indicate admin costs).

Gosh darn it, Medic Corps isn't listed at all. Guess I'll have to donate my money elsewhere. 

[QuiverFullofBooks]

Here’s what Nathan told NPR:

NATHAN BATES: We have two focuses. One is get critical patients out or potential critical patients like, you know, anyone who's high risk, if they have no access. Our next goal is we're collecting intel to know exactly how many people are on location, what their ages are, the demographics, so we can do supply drops.

[SassyPants]

31 minutes ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Here’s what Nathan told NPR:

NATHAN BATES: We have two focuses. One is get critical patients out or potential critical patients like, you know, anyone who's high risk, if they have no access. Our next goal is we're collecting intel to know exactly how many people are on location, what their ages are, the demographics, so we can do supply drops.

Supply drops of Gothard propaganda? 

[Howl]

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One is get critical patients out or potential critical patients like, you know, anyone who's high risk, if they have no access.

I wasn't seeing that their plane was set up to be transformed to evacuate patients. Who on that team has actual medic experience to stabilize and monitor the patient en route to...where exactly? 

It seems like you should be doing one or the other: ferrying supplies to those that desperately need things like food and water OR addressing urgent medical needs OR (possible combo) ferrying medical supplies in and evacuating patients out. 

TeamRubiconUSA.org  is a good option. Team Rubicon is who those white savior complex jackwagons THINK they are. 

Rubicon coordinates with NGOs already present to meet needs for the underserved and have connections and understanding from helping with the prior earthquake in Haiti.  

 

[PennySycamore]

Nathan's interview with NPR doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does it?

[LacyMay]

1 hour ago, Howl said:

TeamRubiconUSA.org  is a good option. Team Rubicon is who those white savior complex jackwagons THINK they are. 

Rubicon coordinates with NGOs already present to meet needs for the underserved and have connections and understanding from helping with the prior earthquake in Haiti.  

Team Rubicon is also comprised of individuals with actual skills that are useful in that type of situation. 

 

I'll be honest, I want to see as few people flying in as possible immediately following this type of disaster because resources are finite and every new person uses resources and places strain on an already damaged infrastructure.

However I understand the need for help and assistance and that is best provided by people who can actually meet needs and place as little extra burden on the country as possible. Let's take a leap and say that *maybe* medic corps is doing some good (I'm doubtful) at the end of the day what they are doing could be done better by someone else. They frankly aren't worth the resources that they use. 

 

[mpheels]

4 hours ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Here’s what Nathan told NPR:

NATHAN BATES: We have two focuses. One is get critical patients out or potential critical patients like, you know, anyone who's high risk, if they have no access. Our next goal is we're collecting intel to know exactly how many people are on location, what their ages are, the demographics, so we can do supply drops.

From the video clip I saw, it looked like the medic corps guys were warm bodies standing around, so the people in charge told them to start doing some heavy lifting. I doubt they are using their own plane to transport patients.

[patsymae]

7 hours ago, mpheels said:

From the video clip I saw, it looked like the medic corps guys were warm bodies standing around, so the people in charge told them to start doing some heavy lifting. I doubt they are using their own plane to transport patients.

Critical patients out--to where? If they have no access-- to what? 

[Idlewild]

Do you think Lawson has his own songs playing on a loop through his ear pods?

[mpheels]

4 hours ago, patsymae said:

Critical patients out--to where? If they have no access-- to what? 

From remote mountain communities with no resources to Port au Prince, where there are at least MSF field hospitals, per the news. Though none of those patients looked “critical” - injured, yes, but all were conscious and breathing on their own. (I don’t actually think the medic corps guys had meaningful plans to be useful. Unlike their foray into the Bahamas, there are already several reputable NGOs established in Haiti. I think they saw the Duggar/Bates crew standing around being useless and put them to work.)

[JDuggs]

I hope someone can prove me wrong, but I think it’s time to stop criticizing Medic Corps for having a name similar to Medicorps. Medicorps doesn’t currently appear to be a functioning organization. If it is, it doesn’t have any legitimate internet presence. When it seemed to be more operational (around 2007?), Medicorps seemed about as legitimate as Medic Corps. The name suggests that the Medic Corps crew shows up at disasters to provide medical care, which they don’t. So that is misleading. But they are not actually riding the coattails of a “real” organization by using that name.

Medic Corps’s disaster relief effort seems to be more about a boots on the ground crew of Christian men who are willing to pitch in with any help needed. They don’t bring any personnel who provide medical care. But they don’t want to say that because medical assistance seems much more important. So their name not matching their mission regarding disaster relief seems disingenuous. They are truly just a group of guys who don’t have real jobs, so they can fly off to any disaster to play hero whenever they want.

[Jinder Roles]

If that’s the case then both Medicorps and Medic Corps can go fuck themselves. 

[CarrotCake]

There is actually a company named MediCorps next to my officebuilding here in the Netherlands. I think it moved in somewhere in the last year but since I am rarely in the office now I am not sure, I keep on thinking of the Bates/Duggars when I pass 😁

 

I just googled and apperently they are a commercial Covid-test company that helps companies with testing their employees.

[bal maiden]

Trace Bates has posted pictures on his instagram, and they're pissing me off so much. Not quite sure how to embed the post here, but here's the link. 

First, who are the Haitian kids they are carrying, and did they get the parents' permission to take and use photos? What are their safeguarding procedures for working with kids? Same questions for the photos of the child on the stretcher being loaded into the helicopter. Using these photos is just disaster porn to get them more donations. 

Second, the guy with the mask on who is touching a girl's leg - if he is a real medic, why doesn't he know how to wear a surgical mask properly? 

Third, what's with the photo with the military chopper in the background? Are they trying to make it look like that's their helicopter, or that they are somehow affiliated or endorsed by the military? edit - ooooh I've just seen Lawson's photos, and it doesn't look like those are actual military, just people with camo and guns. At least Lawson has blurred out kids' faces in his pictures. 

Fourth, are they dumping medical supplies into a skip in one picture? Weird. That stuff is sure not being stacked carefully if it's intended for medical use.

Finally, the dude doing the shaka in the group photo - what the fuck? Really not appropriate for the situation. You're not on a bros vacation. They all look way too clean and way to pleased with themselves for me to take them seriously. 

 

Edited August 25, 2021 by bal maiden

[AussieKrissy]

1 hour ago, bal maiden said:

Trace Bates has posted pictures on his instagram, and they're pissing me off so much. Not quite sure how to embed the post here, but here's the link. 

First, who are the Haitian kids they are carrying, and did they get the parents' permission to take and use photos? What are their safeguarding procedures for working with kids? Same questions for the photos of the child on the stretcher being loaded into the helicopter. Using these photos is just disaster porn to get them more donations. 

Second, the guy with the mask on who is touching a girl's leg - if he is a real medic, why doesn't he know how to wear a surgical mask properly? 

Third, what's with the photo with the military chopper in the background? Are they trying to make it look like that's their helicopter, or that they are somehow affiliated or endorsed by the military? edit - ooooh I've just seen Lawson's photos, and it doesn't look like those are actual military, just people with camo and guns. At least Lawson has blurred out kids' faces in his pictures. 

Fourth, are they dumping medical supplies into a skip in one picture? Weird. That stuff is sure not being stacked carefully if it's intended for medical use.

Finally, the dude doing the shaka in the group photo - what the fuck? Really not appropriate for the situation. You're not on a bros vacation. They all look way too clean and way to pleased with themselves for me to take them seriously. 

 

To summarise for you…

They are all a bunch of fuckwit twat waffles 

[RosyDaisy]

You don't pose for pictures while providing aid.  What a bunch of arrogant, egotistical assholes!🤬

[Knight of Ni]

Things can go wrong even when you have representatives from legitimate organizations helping. In the aftermath of the 2010 earthquake, UN representatives from Nepal introduced cholera into Haiti. This led to a cholera epidemic that caused many more 1000s of deaths. 

[fundiefriday]

6 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

To summarise for you…

They are all a bunch of fuckwit twat waffles 

Well said!

[GuineaPigCourtship]

What Nathan said is certainly a bunch of words arranged to look like a statement but it doesn't actually say anything.

[JDuggs]

Per the Medic Corps Instagram, the Medic Corps medical director, an actual doctor, did show up in Haiti. They also had an ICU nurse working with them. I believe this is meant to slow down the criticism they must be receiving.

[JDuggs]

Medic Corps is gearing up for Hurricane Ida. Back on their next adventure!

[Queeen Victoria]

27 minutes ago, JDuggs said:

Medic Corps is gearing up for Hurricane Ida. Back on their next adventure!

Heaven help us, not Medic Corps.  I live just outside New Orleans.  

Edited August 29, 2021 by Queeen Victoria
Changed my mind about wording.