Lori Alexander 71: She of Appalling Ignorance

[wallysmommy]

I would hope that a man could control himself for a few weeks after a woman has a baby, so co-sleeping shouldn't be a barrier to being available as Lori so eloquently puts it.  Her shade-throwing is so obvious. 

[SilverBeach]

Lori Alexander needs to get the fuck out of other people's bedrooms and go read up on logical fallacies. 

[Free Jana Duggar]

As usual, Lori is railing on something that is none of her business.  God doesn't care if you cosleep or not.

 

When our kids were small, we let them sleep with us occasionally, but most of the time they were in their own rooms.

My only concern with cosleeping would be suffocating an infant, but now there are products to make it safer.

I'm also sick of the husband or children first debate. It's whoever has an immediate need.  

Edited September 20, 2019 by Free Jana Duggar

[SilverBeach]

43 minutes ago, Free Jana Duggar said:

I'm also sick of the husband or children first debate. It's whoever has an immediate need.  

And sometime, it's the woman who has an immediate need. She counts too.

[usmcmom]

I never slept well if our kids were in the bed. If they were ill or it was storming, we’d let them sleep with us when they were little (maybe up to age five or six).  Our daughter was still coming into our room when she was ten and eleven - during thunderstorms, after a bad dream of if she was ill.  It got to where she was coming to my bedside every night - like every time she woke up.  

I finally told her that I’d leave a pallet made up on the floor by my bed and she could come in any time she wanted to and sleep beside me. She came in most nights for almost a year and rarely woke me up. I’d wake up in the morning and she’d be beside me in her cozy little nest. If it was storming, I knew to expect her. She’d lie beside me and lift her hand up to mine. We held hands through the storm and she was not scared when we did that. It was no big deal and I knew she would outgrow it eventually, and she did. She still talks about those nights and how nice it felt to know she could always lie beside me at night.

My husband  and I did not lack in our intimate time, so Lori would be glad of that.  But I am sure she is having a cow right now, reading this and knowing I actually loved my daughter and let her gently grow out of a difficult phase. She’d make a child cry it out, spending her nights frightened and alone in a dark room. 

I look back on those days and I so glad I took the compassionate approach with my daughter. Now it seems like a very special, bonding time for us. I wonder if Lori has any tender memories with her kids. I think, for her and Ken, it was all about training and just getting through the hands on parenting years. 

Anyway, I can’t figure out why Lori even writes about things that aren’t mentioned in the Bible. I guess she pounces on things someone says (right now it is usually Alyssa, I think) and then makes a post so she can attack them and argue with strangers online. Such a wonderful biblical ministry she has.  

Edited September 20, 2019 by usmcmom
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[Lgirlrocks]

10 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

I never slept well if our kids were in the bed. If they were ill or it was storming, we’d let them sleep with us when they were little (maybe up to age five or six).  Our daughter was still coming into our room when she was ten and eleven - during thunderstorms, after a bad dream of if she was ill.  It got to where she was coming to my bedside every night - like every time she woke up.  

I finally told her that I’d leave a pallet made up on the floor by my bed and she could come in any time she wanted to and sleep beside me. She came in most nights for almost a year and rarely woke me up. I’d wake up in the morning and she’d be beside me in her cozy little nest. If it was storming, I knew to expect her. She’d lie beside me and lift her hand up to mine. We held hands through the storm and she was not scared when we did that. It was no big deal and I knew she would outgrow it eventually, and she did. She still talks about those nights and how nice it felt to know she could always lie beside me at night.

My husband  and I did not lack in our intimate time, so Lori would be glad of that.  But I am sure she is having a cow right now, reading this and knowing I actually loved my daughter and let her gently grow out of a difficult phase. She’s make a child cry it out, spending her nights frightened and alone in a dark room. 

I look back on those days and I so glad I took the compassionate approach with my daughter. Now it seems like a very special, bonding time for us. I wonder if Lori has any tender memories with her kids. I think, for her and Ken, it was all about training and just getting through the hands on parenting years. 

Anyway, I can’t figure out why Lori even writes about things that aren’t mentioned in the Bible. I guess she pounces on things someone says (right now it is usually Alyssa, I think) and then makes a post so she can attack them and argue with strangers online. Such a wonderful biblical ministry she has.  

That is so awesome! My mom did that for my brothers and I when we were little. If I had a nightmare I would go and sleep in my parents room. They always had a bed on the floor. Really make a child feel safe. 

[Sarah92]

8 hours ago, SuperNova said:

It never ceases to amaze me that Lori allows comments like these on her blog. Robert Z. sees his sons as other men in his bed. 

"Nothing provokes me to anger more than coming to bed, tired and ready to hit cool sheets, only to find my 8, 10, or 12 year old son in bed with my wife. There’s just something about the idea of my wife being in bed with “some other guy“, and the fact that that “other guy” is my son does not even begin to make it OK. And I do not expect to have to “warm bunk” in my own bed."

I’m going to guess that this man has a porn addiction. The only way I can see those thoughts popping up in his head is if he had a porn addiction that has distorted how he views parent-child relationships. I can’t think of any other reason he would think this way. Either way it’s sick. 

I got into bed with my parents a lot. I was incredibly scared of the dark as a child and it still wigs me out. I would want to sleep with the lights on and everything. As I got older I’d sleep on the floor of my parents’ room on a little nest. Eventually my parents bought my sister and I a full sized futon that we shared. It actually helped a lot because it’s easier for me to go to sleep when I have someone with me. Even now, I’m thankful I got a roommate two months ago because it helps me sleep easier. Even from separate rooms know that I have another safe person in the house helps. 

My question is, how does Lori decide what to write on? If say theoretically she isn’t harassing her children, where in the world would she get the idea to write on cosleeping?

[usmcmom]

3 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

That is so awesome! My mom did that for my brothers and I when we were little. If I had a nightmare I would go and sleep in my parents room. They always had a bed on the floor. Really make a child feel safe. 

Thank you!  It worked out well for us. She grew up to be such an independent young woman. She went to school out of state and spent a summer studying in Europe, traveling to ten different countries with her college program.  So I guess at least I didn’t stunt her in that regard.  

Lori and her ilk would say such “indulgent” parenting makes kids weak.  

I’m glad you have good bedtime memories too. 

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

38 minutes ago, Sarah92 said:

My question is, how does Lori decide what to write on?

From my observation, it's one of three things:

1. Alyssa did something she doesn't like, so Lori wants to "correct" her "mistakes" in childrearing by admonishing other women

2. Ken did something she doesn't like, so Lori has a twofold opportunity: underhandedly backstab Ken and show off what a wonderful, submissive wife she is for not getting mad

3. A neighbor, fellow congregation member, or random woman on the street did something she doesn't like, so she wants to build herself a soapbox to indirectly shame this person because despite her bitterness and anger, she doesn't have the balls for a face-to-face confrontation. Which is a good thing for everyone involved, but it just goes to show how shaky her argument is that she feels so much more comfortable preaching to her leghumpers in her safe space where she can delete dissension and cry persecution, than actually having conversations with real people. 

At this point I assume all of her posts are reactionary, and I've made a fun little game out of imagining what exactly pissed her off this time. 

ETA: just read the blog post on co-sleeping. I don't have kids and have been married for less than two months, so I am by no means an expert but is it actually normal for men to care more about opportunities for sex than that their children feel safe, nurtured, and bonded with their parents? 

I never slept in my parent's bed, and frankly the thought was appalling to me as a child but at this point in my life, I wish I had. I want my future children to feel comfortable enough to come to us at any time of day or night if they're scared or lonely. My husband has more of a nurturing spirit than I do and he would never put sex ahead of childcare. What kind of men are these women married to? 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Sonic the Whoredgehog

[hollyfeller]

1 hour ago, Sonic the Whoredgehog said:

From my observation, it's one of three things:

1. Alyssa did something she doesn't like, so Lori wants to "correct" her "mistakes" in childrearing by admonishing other women

2. Ken did something she doesn't like, so Lori has a twofold opportunity: underhandedly backstab Ken and show off what a wonderful, submissive wife she is for not getting mad

3. A neighbor, fellow congregation member, or random woman on the street did something she doesn't like, so she wants to build herself a soapbox to indirectly shame this person because despite her bitterness and anger, she doesn't have the balls for a face-to-face confrontation. Which is a good thing for everyone involved, but it just goes to show how shaky her argument is that she feels so much more comfortable preaching to her leghumpers in her safe space where she can delete dissension and cry persecution, than actually having conversations with real people. 

At this point I assume all of her posts are reactionary, and I've made a fun little game out of imagining what exactly pissed her off this time. 

ETA: just read the blog post on co-sleeping. I don't have kids and have been married for less than two months, so I am by no means an expert but is it actually normal for men to care more about opportunities for sex than that their children feel safe, nurtured, and bonded with their parents? 

I never slept in my parent's bed, and frankly the thought was appalling to me as a child but at this point in my life, I wish I had. I want my future children to feel comfortable enough to come to us at any time of day or night if they're scared or lonely. My husband has more of a nurturing spirit than I do and he would never put sex ahead of childcare. What kind of men are these women married to? 

Hence my replacing "co-sleeping" with "wearing underwear" in my earlier comment.  With exceptions of course, both contribute to a new mom's comfort and both are an obstacle to sex on demand.  But Lori wants a husband to have the ability to lay down the law and discontinue either one.  Not Biblical, Lori.  Not Biblical.

[freealljs]

I suppose Lori would object if I put in "sleeping in separate beds", like Ken and Lori do, in place of "co-sleeping."  Her argument is utterly ridiculous.  

Plus, it seems out of the norm of her usual stupid shit.

I also wonder when @Ken will show up on his horse of truth.  I also hope that he is doing alright. I'm not a big fan of his, but he was so sick and Lori has yet to write (recently) about Ken and her love for him.

[SongRed7]

I know it goes without saying, but Lori Alexander is an awful, awful person.   As she is trying to disguise as a public service announcement against medicine on FB today, she manages to:

• Malign, once again, the late Rachel Held Evans for her wrong thinking (even though Lori INSISTS that is not what she is doing, she is not "celebrating" her death. No sireeee"
• Point out that besides her "wrong thinking", RHE was also (gasp!) "pro-vaccination"
• RHE watched "evil" shows like Game of Thrones (which is just porn)
• RHE took Tamiflu and even though we don't REALLY know what caused her seizures and demise, Lori is certainly sure it was the Tamiflu.
• She wraps it up by giving caution and make sure you understand what you are taking medicine wise.  But what she REALLY is conveying is that RHE was evil because she didn't teach the same things as Lori and she is mostly likely definitely 100% responsible for her own death and questionable TV watching habits and probably deserved what she got.

 

I don't hate anybody, but I really hate her. 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by SongRed7

[usmcmom]

Lori did more research in her attempt to once again bash Rachel Held Evans than she has ever done for any other post. She has texts and timelines. It’s like a Real Housewives reunion and she came ready to destroy a woman of whom she is still extremely jealous. 

******

@Ken How can you not see the cruelty in your wife’s post today? There is absolutely no reason for Rachel’s name to be brought into a post on the flu. Why do you continue to let Lori represent you and your family this way?  You are clearly as cruel as Lori or you’d make her delete posts like this one. Be the Command Man you say you are and take charge of your household. I can guarantee you the husband of Rachel Held Evans is doing a much better job of running his home and protecting his family than you have ever done. 

[kmachete14]

Her logic is so awful.

Truly everything she says means that you should never take any medicine to treat any illness since they all have side effects. If you die, it must have been the medicine, not the illness!! WTF!

Elderberry syrup has these side effects:

Nausea/vomiting (consumption of raw berries)

Weakness.

Dizziness.

Numbness.

Stupor.

Based on Lori's logic, you shouldn't be taking this syrup either. SMH.

[WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?]

That reminds me that I need to schedule my annual checkup. As an added bonus, I can get my flu shot at the same time. Thanks for the reminder, Aunt Lori!

[usmcmom]

9 minutes ago, WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo? said:

That reminds me that I need to schedule my annual checkup. As an added bonus, I can get my flu shot at the same time. Thanks for the reminder, Aunt Lori!

Yeah I need to get my shot too. I think I’ll get mine at the Publix pharmacy and use the $10 gift card at the bakery. Might as well use my husband’s gift card too. 

[WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?]

@usmcmom, the last few years I've tried to make sure my kids see me get my flu shot, to emphasize that it's an important thing that everyone needs to do, and not just something that adults force on kids. They haven't been particularly impressed, so I guess this year I'll just get it when it's the most convenient for me. 

We have several drug stores and grocery stores with pharmacies that give flu shots, but none of them offer a gift card. I'm a tiny bit jealous!

[ColeJo]

When RHE died, I wanted answers. Usually, if there is a bad reaction to an antibiotic, doctors would stop it if the risk outweighed the benefit. For Tamiflu, they could have stopped it as well if she was on it while being hospitalized. It is likely that she could have developed encephalitis which can happen with the flu. She had constant seizures and later brain swelling.

I didn’t draw any conclusions though. Lori doesn’t have compassion in her vocabulary. She has a new grandbaby and a husband who may have residual heart issues. Both are vulnerable.

I develop bronchitis after the flu and it makes it difficult to breathe. My sister has asthma. My mom has heart failure. My dad’s flu developed into pneumonia. Those are all reasons to get the flu shot.

Elderberry syrup for symptom management? That’s fine, but it doesn’t prevent it or keep it from spreading. 
I may have experienced fatigue and soreness at the injection site, but it was nothing compared to actually getting the flu.

[Florita]

My youngest son (who has asthma) caught the H1N1 flu during the pandemic in 2009. The whole family took Tamiflu (6 of us, ages at that time 45 to 4). We survived. I do remember it was hard on my stomach. The kid with the flu was feeling all better within two days.

And yes, thanks for the reminder. I need to get my flu shot. 

[hollyfeller]

So who in Lori’s life took Tamiflu that she wrote an entire blog post about it? I guess since there are no verses in the Bible about it Tamiflu must be terrible.

[wallysmommy]

This is what it would look like if I had a conversation with Lori.  "What does that mean?"  https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+that+mean+impractical+jokers&oq=what+does+that+mean+impra&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.7655j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[SongRed7]

And just for fun, I wish someone would ask her how the antibiotics Ken took/takes (or the high blood pressure medicine he takes that she let slip) why/how those medicines are good?  Why didn't she just pump him full of black salve syrup or something. 

I'm banned, but almost want to make a fact account just to ask her to explain the difference. 

 

 

[Lgirlrocks]

Spoiler

Once again Lori answers a question with one of her post. 

[usmcmom]

I thought I remembered reading something from Rachel’s husband very recently, and here it is. My guess? Lori saw this too, felt herself enraged over the love so many had for Rachel and went on the attack. 

“Rarely are worthwhile things very easy.”  That is exactly why Lori cannot be kind. It is too difficult for her and she won’t even make the effort. Visiting her husband in the hospital? Worthwhile and difficult. Sitting at her dying mother’s bedside? Worthwhile and difficult. 

[polecat]

Lori and her cosleeping nonsense -- my husband and I didn't even sleep together for ~15 or so years, maybe longer, of our marriage because we didn't work the same shift. So if I wanted to cosleep with my kids, I did (and I did! because that's how I got enough sleep!). Lori needs to stay out of other people's bedrooms and beds and mind her own business. As usual. 

And flu shots -- we get ours at Target, and they give $5 gift cards. Staying healthy + feeding my Target addiction? I'm in.