Kellyanne and George Conway 2

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[fraurosena]

Thanks for adding George in the title, @GreyhoundFan! 

I'm still at a loss for how those two are still married.

Isn't his wife one of the underlings?  Is he trying to say that she's keeping Trump from doing his worst? (And therefore implying she was the author of that article last year?) How does that explain her constant lying for him then? 

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[fraurosena]

59 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

 

Has Kellyanne ever met her husband, who retweeted this:

 

[Botkinetti]

Sometimes I think Kellyanne has adopted George Costanza as her spirit animal. His version of Opposite Day when he did the opposite of what he thought he should worked out well enough . Maybe she has decided that since it worked in a sitcom it will work for her and trump. 

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"Kellyanne and George Conway’s tawdry love triangle with all of us"

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I’m beginning to wonder whether George and Kellyanne Conway have enlisted us all into a private fetish — a relationship-spicing exercise defined by mutual debasement and public shame. We now know too much about the marriage between two prominent conservatives. Not the nitty-gritty of who snores and who loads the dishwasher wrong, but the vast cosmic business, like who has apparently lost all semblance of respect for whose lifelong wedded partner.

George Conway, according to the succinct bio accompanying the essays he publishes in national media sharply criticizing the Trump administration, is “a lawyer in New York.” Which is true, but this description is like calling George W. Bush “a painter with an exhibit at the Kennedy Center.” Also true, weirdly, but that’s not why anybody’s buying tickets.

George Conway is known for being a vehement Never Trumper, but what he’s really known for is being the husband of Kellyanne Conway. Who is herself a senior counselor to President Trump.

George has become the toast of the resistance. Not because of what he says; scores of learned experts have spent the past three years furiously penning similar arguments. He has become the toast of the resistance mostly because we know who his wife is. He’s riding her coattails while on an apparent mission that would, ultimately, put her out of a job. Which makes the whole thing more . . . diabolical? More squalid? More delicious?

“There is a cancer in the presidency,” George wrote in April; in June he described one of Trump’s briefs as “spectacularly anti-constitutional.” He seemed to peak in July, calling his wife’s boss “racist,” as well as “boorish, dim-witted, inarticulate, incoherent, narcissistic and insensitive.” Then, last week he hit a new apex with a massive, 12,000-word piece in the Atlantic, whose scathing contents, while weaving the articles of the Constitution into the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, could be boiled down to the story’s title: “Unfit for Office.”

On a sweeping historical level, these are shocking things for a conservative to publicly say about a sitting president. On a personal level — they’re shocking things for someone to publicly say about his wife’s boss. The behaviors and worldviews Conway denounces are the very behaviors and worldviews that his wife spends her waking hours shaping and enabling. The regime he finds abhorrent is the regime his wife, Trump’s former campaign manager, worked to build.

Can you imagine? I’m not saying whose perspective is right (George’s is right), I’m just saying that if many of us publicly insulted our wives’ bosses that way, either we wouldn’t have wives, or our wives wouldn’t have bosses.

But there they are, George and Kellyanne and Donald, staggering on in their bizarre throuple through various circles of perdition: Trump calls George “a husband from hell.” Kellyanne goes on Fox News, again, to defend Trump. George tweets about Trump’s “narcissism and sociopathy.”

And then! Last weekend, Kellyanne’s cousin married Vice President Pence’s nephew, and — cheers to the happy couple — the Conways attended the wedding together.

Massive, 12,000-word stories in major magazines don’t come out of nowhere; they take weeks to produce. Does that mean George spent weeks feverishly hiding his activities from his life partner? Or does that mean he was coming home every night and giving Kellyanne blow-by-blows, gloating about the new insults he’d created to denigrate her life’s work? If Kellyanne knew, did she tell the president? And then what happened?

These are the Conways-at-home scenarios I find myself actively imagining. What are their specific pathologies? How can either of them stay married to to the other? This isn’t James Carville and Mary Matalin; this is “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” Is it this all part of an act — a long con for a co-authored book deal? Why can’t we look away?

The tawdriness of watching George Conway drag Trump through the mud gets at so much of our psychology these days. It’s the proof that, yes, politics really are ripping families apart. It’s the validation, for liberals, that someone within Trump’s tribe is willing to call him a fraud. It’s the sense, for conservatives, that some people really do care more about stopping Trump than they care about anything else.

And it’s the shame. I think, for the people who have “George Conway” on a Google news alert, who eagerly wait to see what he’s going to say next, what they’re really savoring is the imagined shame of it all, traveling from George through Kellyanne to Donald Trump. Here is a president who seems not to feel shame but who does seem to fear, more than anything else, appearing weak or emasculated.

We’re watching not a love triangle but six or seven of them.

George, cheating on Kellyanne with his democratic principles.

Kellyanne, torn between a domestic partner and a professional one.

America, wondering what George might know that we don’t and how this will end, and what’s going to happen in one or five years when this administration is over and we all have to look at each other again, asking ourselves, Is that what you thought of me? Now that I know that, can we ever go back?

And the president of the United States impotent and metaphorically cuckolded on a regular basis, as his trusted adviser’s spouse spanks him on Twitter.

 

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Add me to the list of those who absolutely cannot understand how these two stay married.

[Howl]

On 8/29/2019 at 9:09 AM, fraurosena said:

I'm still at a loss for how those two are still married.

No mystery to me.  They are both lawyers, cynical and powerful movers and shakers and are playing both ends against the middle.  Whichever way things go, one of them is in position to capitalize.  Remember, the key word is cynical. 

Kellyanne ran a successful political polling company pre Trump and George is a very successful high-powered attorney who has the presence of mind to turn down an offer of a job in the WH.  And did I mention that they lived in Trump Tower in NYC from 2001 to 2008?

[candygirl200413]

Thank you @Howl, both of them are just trying to play us(us meaning society) at both ends as you said. They both have motives.

[AmazonGrace]

Is his wife still working for Donald Trump?

 

[fraurosena]

16 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

Is his wife still working for Donald Trump?

 

Oh yes. They're still playing both sides. 

[Howl]

I've been paying attention to Trump's tweets and a lot of the spin coming out of the WH may very well be orchestrated by Kellyanne.

Kellyanne was a very successful pollster before joining the WH borg and fusing with the collective hive mind. 

Someone has the chops to spin, spin, spin, every idiotic thing that comes out of the whirling dervish topped by the gelid mass that is Trump's brain. Every. Single. Thing.  And it has be a continuous plausible narrative for the base.  I used to think that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was generating  a lot of the talking points and she may have been doing it to a certain degree; however, I see Kellyanne's hand in this because it's been  consistent messaging throughout the chaos and rampant turnover.  

And whoever is the WH spokeswoman, the ultimately forgettable what's-her-name, is likely contributing zilch, because she's desperately unqualified for her job and never says anything. 

[GreyhoundFan]

"‘If I threaten someone, you’ll know it’: Kellyanne Conway is sounding like Donald Trump"

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Kellyanne Conway doesn’t want reporters to say that she threatened the Washington Examiner reporter whom she threatened. “So, listen, if you’re going to cover my personal life, if you’re going to cover my personal life, then we’re welcome to do the same around here,” said Conway in a phone call recorded by the Washington Examiner’s Caitlin Yilek.

It’s the media story of the week, thanks to all the hostile, condescending and imperious comments that Conway made in the call. The audio is intoxicating.

Here’s the quick summary of the proceedings: Yilek on Tuesday aggregated a story from Bloomberg News claiming that President Trump had considered replacing acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney with Conway, counselor to the president. Trump later denied the report, as if that’s relevant. In contextualizing Conway’s alleged candidacy for a promotion, Yilek noted that she had unique circumstances tugging at her professional life:

Conway has been in the middle of Trump’s barbs with her husband, George, a conservative lawyer who frequently makes headlines for his criticism of the president. George Conway said earlier this month that White House aides should resign unless they can ‘have some moderating or blunting effect’ on Trump. He refused to discuss his wife, who has worked for Trump since the 2016 presidential campaign.

It was that passage that Conway couldn’t abide, so she rang up Yilek. A key part:

So I just am wondering why in God’s earth you would need to mention anything about George Conway’s tweets in an article that talks about me as possibly being chief of staff. Other than it looks to me like there’s no original reporting here, you just read Twitter and other people’s stuff, which I guess is why you don’t pick up the phone when people call from the White House because if it’s not on Twitter or it’s not on cable TV, it’s not real.

There’s so much delicious filling in that polemical empanada — generational haughtiness about trends in info-tech, reportorial nitpicking, “wondering” as camouflage for bullying, and so on. The counselor goes on to ask Yilek, in essence, to justify her professional existence. The Washington Examiner identifies Yilek as a “breaking news reporter,” which served as Conway’s jumping-off point: “I’m just trying to give you a chance to explain why you think what you wrote qualifies as breaking news or reporting,” said Conway.

As the White House aide continued complaining, Yilek projected a quiet confidence that clearly unsettled Conway, who was forced to declare that she was a “powerful woman.” “Don’t pull the crap where you’re trying to undercut another woman based on who she’s married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven’t noticed. Not the other way around,” said Conway.

The call wound down, and Conway returned to her theme: “I’m not caught in the middle of anything except trying to understand somebody whose title is breaking news reporter, what that means.”

To which Yilek responded, “Look, I’ve got to go. I’ve got a meeting to run to.”

How did we ever get the privilege of listening in on this back-and-forth? Well, the Examiner transcript makes clear that Conway’s assistant, Tom Joannou, requested an off-the-record chat. After an exchange of some unknown duration, Joannou put Conway on the line. According to the transcript: “When Conway came onto the line, without any agreement that a conversation with her would be off the record, the conversation reverted to being on the record, as per Washington Examiner policy and standard journalistic practice.” One complication with this explanation: At one point in the exchange, Yilek asks Conway if she like to “dispute that on the record? I would be happy to put that in my story.”

It’s hard to believe that as Conway berates and scolds and scorns Yilek, she has any expectation that her words will eventually be conveyed to the public via audio and a handy transcript. “I didn’t say the call was on or off the record 'cause I could care less. She must have thought it was off the record because then she asked, quote, ‘Would you like to put any of this on the record,’” Conway said Friday. She laid out her side of the story in a fine-print tweet:

Here’s the position of the Examiner:

In comments to reporters at the White House on Friday, Conway said of Yilek: “She’s not like the rest of you, she’s not here at the White House doing the beat, out here asking questions,” said Conway.

Exactly!

In her status as a breaking news reporter, Yilek owed nothing to Conway. She didn’t have to worry about losing access or having her hard pass revoked or her questions ignored. Here’s a good example of why the White House press corps needs outsiders to supplement its work. Via Yilek and the Examiner, we now have a good idea of how Conway seeks to shape media coverage of the White House.

And we also get to see how she recovers from it, too. With great savvy: “There wasn’t one thing I said in that call that I haven’t said publicly,” she told reporters on Friday. That’s perhaps a reference to her stated misgivings about speaking for her husband. In a memorable incident from April 2018, Conway tore into CNN’s Dana Bash for asking her what was up with her husband’s tweets attacking the president. “We’re now going to talk about other people’s — people’s spouses and significant others, just because they either work in the White House or at CNN?” ripped Conway. And in a feature by The Post’s Ben Terris, Conway indeed provided an earlier version of the power-provider line: “Nobody knows who I am because of my husband. People know of my husband because of me,” she said.

One unexplained wrinkle is how this “powerful woman” found time in her day to rail against someone whom she holds in such low regard. Yilek’s alleged offense, after all, was merely to note that Conway’s husband is one of Trump’s most vociferous critics, an awkward situation that would become yet more awkward if she were elevated to chief of staff. “I feel there’s a part of him that thinks I chose Donald Trump over him,” Kellyanne Conway told Terris. “Which is ridiculous. One is my work and one is my marriage.”

Whereas Trump bullies people with bluster and froth, Conway does so with precision and calm. In her discussion with reporters Friday, she said, “I still didn’t get an answer from her, which was the essential question, which was: Why do you call yourself a breaking news reporter if you’re not writing breaking news and you’re not even being a reporter?” Like her boss, she can’t let go.

And when asked about what the Examiner regards as a threat to investigate reporters’ personal lives, Conway goes all-in on Trumpian gaslighting and bravado: “I never threatened anyone. Don’t use those words … No, no, no … If I threaten somebody, you’ll know it. If I threaten someone, you’ll know it.”

 

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I think George owes Junior some aloe for the burn:

[Howl]

Kellyanne Conway is an absolutely vicious evil twunt, twitwaffle, twatwaffle...I could go on, but I think we are all clear on Kellyanne's character; like Trump, there. is. no. bottom.  

Kellyanne Conway Smears Lisa Page As A Woman Who ‘Feels Really Sorry For Herself’   The White House official said it sounds like the ex-FBI lawyer gets “very rattled every time the president tweets something.”  

This is in reference to Lisa Pages's interview with Molly Jong-Fast, at The Daily Beast: 

Lisa Page Speaks: ‘There’s No Fathomable Way I Have Committed Any Crime at All’    The former FBI lawyer and ongoing Trump target breaks two years of silence in this exclusive interview. And she has quite a lot to say.

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She said the final straw was when at an October rally, Trump performed an imagined “orgasm” between her and former FBI official Peter Strzok, her one-time romantic partner and email correspondent.

Has the footage been suppressed?   I haven't seen it anywhere. 

 

Edited December 2, 2019 by Howl

[fraurosena]

20 hours ago, Howl said:

Has the footage been suppressed?   I haven't seen it anywhere. 

I've seen the start of it and quickly zapped it away. It's vulgar, cringeworthy and disgusting. Imagine Trump doing the infamous When Harry met Sally scene and you'll get what I mean.

 

[GreyhoundFan]

K-Con makes me ill.

 

 

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I haven't seen Netflix's "Marriage Story" yet, but have read good reviews. I love SNL's version with K-Con and George:

 

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K-Con is looking more brittle than usual:

 

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Methinks Clay loves K-Con as much as we do...

 

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