Drake Pardo case - child removed from Texas home by CPS

[AuntKrazy]

This has good information about the case - and I like that it outlines both sides of what has happened:

https://texasmonitor.org/freedom-caucus-members-and-conservative-think-tank-take-on-the-case-of-a-childs-removal/

 

 

[DarkAnts]

So, they could get their son back if the cooperated with CPS. The parents choose not to. They are instead trying to play to the court of public opinion. It's sad because I don't think that will work out for them.

[FluffySnowball]

1 hour ago, DarkAnts said:

So, they could get their son back if the cooperated with CPS. The parents choose not to. They are instead trying to play to the court of public opinion. It's sad because I don't think that will work out for them.

I don’t think that’s sad, at least not for little Drake. That his parents aren’t willing to go to any lengths to get him back is telling. It’s not about him but about winning a power play. I hope he is in a caring and loving surrounding and can develop without restraints and fear. 

[squiddysquid]

On 8/7/2019 at 9:04 PM, JermajestyDuggar said:

I believe it used to be easier to do it. But with today’s technology, I imagine it doesn’t take that much follow up work to find out someone is doctor shopping. 

It's actually harder nowadays. You can't just call somebody up and ask them to send stuff over - which is a good thing in some cases, but a pain in the ass most of the time. Even if you send a patient to another hospital yourself to get an MRI or a specialist's opinion yourself, it can take 2-3 days to get the results.

Proving you are the treating doctor, proving you actually need those results, sometimes the written approval of the patient, especially if your patient can't consent themselves - as in paediatric cases - psych notes usually have an additional lock on them...

and at least in my country - patients can go online and erase certain things from their own file - because obviously, they have a right to access their own files - luckily not the ward round notes unless there's a malpractice suit and a court order...

Edited August 24, 2019 by squiddysquid
hell, in some hospitals you can't even access a patient's chest x-rays for 2 days if they've been transfered from one department to another within the same hosptial...

[DarkAnts]

A parent from a different case was finally charged with child abuse. People are still saying her kids were medically kidnapped. There are people who still support the abuser. The children in this case were never returned to the abuser. Her rights were terminated. I hope the best for the children.

 

https://discussglobal.com/melissa-diegel-denied-bail-victims-fearful/

[Terrie]

The moment someone uses the phrase "medical kidnappnig" I assume CPS is probably in the right. 

[nelliebelle1197]

So the kid is possibly autistic and this brilliant homeschooling mom does not understand it.  AND seems to have Munchausens by Proxy

[DarkAnts]

On 8/26/2019 at 11:26 AM, nelliebelle1197 said:

So the kid is possibly autistic and this brilliant homeschooling mom does not understand it.  AND seems to have Munchausens by Proxy

Some autistic kids have problems with food textures. There are ways to help them with it.  A feeding tube is not the way. One of my friends kid with texture issues. The child had had occupational therapy as a toddler to help. My friend said it involved letting the kid play with the food.  It was extremely messy (food in places where food should never go) but it was effective. The child eats most things now. They still have a few foods they don't like but thats normal. 

Edited August 28, 2019 by DarkAnts

[Terrie]

Some kids don't respond to occupational therapy, and eat a highly limited diet. There are many, many, MANY, options before a gtube. I know of at least one case where the kid's own doctor just shrugged when told the kid would only eat PB&J, pizza and spaghetti with butter, and said "He's getting enough calories and growing normally without issues. Just give him a daily multivitamin." 

[Howl]

I hope this kid is thriving with a qualified foster family. And this reminds me so much of the Rembis family in Lubbock, TX who would not comply with CPS requirements for certain kinds of counseling, but did eventually get all the kids back after a bit more than a year, IIRC. 

On 8/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, AuntKrazy said:

This has good information about the case - and I like that it outlines both sides of what has happened:

https://texasmonitor.org/freedom-caucus-members-and-conservative-think-tank-take-on-the-case-of-a-childs-removal/

Yup, In a short amount of time the kid has transitioned to solid food and is potty trained.  Red flags for a problem with the parents, especially with the mom? 

I noticed that the lawyer for the parents at no time discusses the health status of the child.  What's at stake here is the absolute power of the parents to abuse their kids however they see fit.  I hope that this kid is NOT returned to the family, at least not for quite awhile. 

Edited August 28, 2019 by Howl

[Glasgowghirl]

On 8/28/2019 at 5:33 AM, DarkAnts said:

Some autistic kids have problems with food textures. There are ways to help them with it.  A feeding tube is not the way. One of my friends kid with texture issues. The child had had occupational therapy as a toddler to help. My friend said it involved letting the kid play with the food.  It was extremely messy (food in places where food should never go) but it was effective. The child eats most things now. They still have a few foods they don't like but thats normal. 

My nephew is not autistic but has a bad food phobia, when he was at primary school he was sick a few times just because he was next to someone who had cookies and the sweet smell of them was enough to make him sick. He's now 13 and gradually trying to eat some new foods but textures and smells are still an issue for him. Tube feeding would definitely not have helped my nephew, it would have made his issues worse. 

Drake was not medically kidnapped, the parents chose to ignore doctor's CPS and other professionals who are looking out for the child, more than his parent's are.

[jozina]

 

 

 

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On 8/24/2019 at 6:01 PM, squiddysquid said:

and at least in my country - patients can go online and erase certain things from their own file - because obviously, they have a right to access their own files - luckily not the ward round notes unless there's a malpractice suit and a court order...

Are you in Australia? The My Health Record is such a joke, I'm yet to meet a doctor who finds it useful. People can also upload their own notes, and some of the stuff I've seen is hilarious. In theory I should be exactly the kind of person who accesses it (emergency situations with people who can't speak for themselves or don't know their own records). In reality, almost nothing makes its way there in a timely manner. Patients can generally access their own files though (including ward round notes) if they apply for them. They can't get the original copies and hospitals or clinics can charge them to receive copies, but despite the medical notes belonging to the doctor/hospital a patient does generally have the right to access them with a few rare exceptions. I always warn my residents about writing things they wouldn't want a patient to see! ? A subpoena just generally involves the same info with a hefty legal fee. If you're not in Australia my apologies but I'm hoping that we're the only country who has come up with such a stupid system like My Health Record.

From what I've seen with the Munchausen's(+/- by proxy) mob they seem to come in 2 groups - the ones who want to show you their files and files of medical notes (which often include faked info, or are suspicious given how many specialists they see in a short period of time) or the ones who are very tight lipped and don't want to help you access info about their apparently very medically complicated history.  Both suspicious.  Kids can be so tricky to pick up on.  Totally agree that G tubes are common with these people.

 

 

[squiddysquid]

I worked in Australia, but it's the same in Europe and the US too. We had a case of Munchhausen's where the patient got hold of her notes without us knowing it...

But no, the electronic stuff is more hindering than useful. I just write important stuff with a sharpie on my insurance card, cause that's something they always check...

Edited September 9, 2019 by squiddysquid

[DarkAnts]

The parents asked the Supreme Court of Texas to review the case. They have no intention of working with CPS at the moment.

[Glasgowghirl]

On 9/9/2019 at 1:50 PM, DarkAnts said:

The parents asked the Supreme Court of Texas to review the case. They have no intention of working with CPS at the moment.

Even if I felt I had had my children taken into care unlawfully, I'd still cooperate with the relevant authorities if it meant I could get them back. 

[unsafetydancer]

1 hour ago, Glasgowghirl said:

Even if I felt I had had my children taken into care unlawfully, I'd still cooperate with the relevant authorities if it meant I could get them back.

Wouldn't most normal people do this?

[damnedifyoudo]

This case is local to me, the family participates in several FB special needs groups I'm in.  I'm dismayed at how many families are rallying behind them with no skepticism at all.  Maybe the other skeptics are staying quiet, as I am.  I know if I say anything, I'll be branded a monster, but I feel that most of us in the group, know that our kids wouldn't change at all, much less get any better if removed from our care, which is the most damning fact here.
But they've latched onto the "mama bear" having to fight with doctors who refuse to listen angle, which most of us have experienced at one time or another, and everyone has thrown their cynicism out the window.