Jason Duggars accident video clip.

[maybeizfundie]

It is true that emotional reactions vary from person to person (and family to family)

I never thought I would be this way, since I'm a crier by nature, but when one of my sons took a tumble down the stairs (in spite of the gate we had up), I didn't cry until much, much later. Dh literally collapsed (which was almost as scary as seeing the fall), but I was focused on the kid, talking to him, making sure he was OK. Dh did think I was cold-hearted. But if both of us were curled up on the floor crying, who was going to take care of the kid and make sure he didn't have a concussion or something?

The cameras didn't catch the whole thing from start to finish. What they did catch seemed to be the family in crisis-control mode, taking care of business, and relief that he wasn't dead or dying. The clip showed how many seconds of what would have been a rather drawn out situation.

That said, I did find the cell phone camera odd, though I don't think it's uniquely odd to the Duggars. The whole "Must catch everything on camera!" is something I see more and more and it's always been weird and disturbing to me.

[ophelia]

Iam really wondering how TLC will deal about this. I'm quite surprised they put it online, because it shows the Duggars in such a negative way like it was never did before. Even fans will find Michelle's behaviour terrible and since the producers apparently read here they might come some kind of statement. Just like it happened after the gun-picture when J'chelle explained how many squirrels you have to shoot to make a yummie TTC and thats why they have guns in a house full of little kids. :angry-banghead:

[debrand]

There's no one "right" way to express emotion. I thought the older kids did look worried and upset. The fact that they didn't cry doesn't mean they were hiding their feelings.

I don't think that the lack of tears is really the problem. During emergencies people respond in different ways, so I agree with you on that score. The Duggars don't appear to be simply calm, they really seem lacking in any emotion. I think that they do have emotions, they just have never learned to express them.

Jana is calm but shows some emotion. You can be calm and show emotion. That is not what I see from most of the Duggars.

There are a lot of people in that clip. Most of them have the same reaction. That is strange also. Just because they are siblings, doesn't mean that they would display their emotions in the same manner.

[IReallyAmHopewell]

thats why they have guns in a house full of little kids.

I'm anti-gun, but honestly, where they live it's easier to find houses with kids and NO guns. We've never seen guns at any other time--other than toy ones (which were perfectly acceptable when I was a kid in the 60s), so I don't think we can say they are irresponsible in THIS regard.

[ladeedum]

I will say at the end of the clip when Jana is on the phone, she does sound like she's been upset. Jill also looked like she'd been upset as well. Hopefully those who can watch the show will let us know that SOMEONE cried for this poor guy.

It's clear that Jana and Jill are the real moms. While Mother of the Year was busy shoving a camera in Jason's face, Jill was sitting next to Jason and Jana was crouching behind him. Both were trying to comfort him.

At least Mother of the Year stopped videoing in the hospital. But maybe that was because the doctor told her to get the camera the fuck out of his ER.

[longskirts]

It's clear that Jana and Jill are the real moms. While Mother of the Year was busy shoving a camera in Jason's face, Jill was sitting next to Jason and Jana was crouching behind him. Both were trying to comfort him.

I don't think that means they're the real moms. They were in those positions because they're the ones with first responder training.

Michelle videotaping it is really callous, though. I hope TLC will let them know that viewers are unhappy with that.

[snickerz]

It's also telling that as soon as soon as he was "patched up" they dragged him back on tour with them. The video of them in the bus with Ray Comfort showed him resting in the back of the bus ("resting" being a relative term, when you consider he was being crawled over by howlers). I think any normal family would have at least taken him home to be cared for by grandma while they finished up the tour.

[3 is enough]

And then he mentions a possible broken neck or "internal poblems." I feel like Josh is pretty TLC production savvy and knows what to say to make the cut, but come on, spare us the melodrama.

This. While it is entirely possible that someone from the production crew fed him those lines, I think he was milking it. They probably already knew the extent of the injuries at that point, and the waiting room scene was more or less staged for maximum dramatic effect.

I have no words to describe how appalled I am at the filming of this poor kid's traumatic ordeal. Not surprised, of course. I remember when Josie was born, and the news hit the internet, thinking "surely they didn't film this", and being proven wrong when the episode aired. More of the same, but Jason is 11? He should have been able to say he didn't want this accident on film.

[kunoichi66]

Holy Smoke.....really?

:cry: That poor wee boy.....I hope he's all right. And I hope the family feel the effects of this accident. Any chance of a CPS investigation?

[GeoBQn]

Iam really wondering how TLC will deal about this. I'm quite surprised they put it online, because it shows the Duggars in such a negative way like it was never did before. Even fans will find Michelle's behaviour terrible

I'm always amazed at their fans' ability to turn the family's negative behavior into a positive. Reading the 19 Kids and Counting Facebook fan page and Duggar Family Blog makes me *headdesk* all day. "JD was just going out to target practice." "Michelle is fantastic mother and it's normal for older kids to help out the younger ones." "Josie just had a cold. It was so nice of the Israeli doctor to offer to fly home with her, to give Michelle peace of mind." (That last one was a real example from the Duggar Family Blog.) My guess is that fans will continue to say that Michelle is a great mother and find some excuse for why her filming the situation on her iPhone was appropriate.

[Jessica]

I have no words to describe how appalled I am at the filming of this poor kid's traumatic ordeal. Not surprised, of course. I remember when Josie was born, and the news hit the internet, thinking "surely they didn't film this", and being proven wrong when the episode aired. More of the same, but Jason is 11? He should have been able to say he didn't want this accident on film.

That clip of Josie struggling to breathe still makes my blood boil like nothing else. "OH, hey guys, our baby was just born prematurely and is fighting for life. Why dontcha get a nice shot of her struggling just to breathe? Oh, isn't she cute?" I would be ashamed to show my face if I had done what they did to Jason.

My son had a febrile seizure in May. I got a picture of him on my phone but that was AFTER we got to the ER, AFTER the doctor had already checked him out, AFTER everything was taken care of and they just wanted us to stay there so they could check up on him every couple hours. And I only sent the picture to my mom because she was worried sick. I think if I had filmed him seizing or been posting on Facebook someone would have called CPS on me. But no, the Duggars are a Good Christian Family so everything they do is right!

[snarkykitty]

The dull thud half a second before the screams started made me sick to my stomach. I wish that they hadn't played it. I sure hope that it wasn't dubbed in. The sound of a body hitting something after a 12 foot fall brought me back to seeing videos of 9/11 and hearing the sounds... it's so triggering.

I too cannot imagine filming what was happening. My niece (then 15) had a seizure in my living room last year, and it was the scariest thing I've ever witnessed. The way she came down - like a rag doll (she's quite tall so she kind of crumpled down) - and her body shook - it was so traumatizing. She hit the wall on her way down, and her neck and her back hurt.After she came to, we made sure she kept still, my mother cradling her head so she didn't move it.

I would NEVER have thought of filming it. And nobody else did. I mean, EMTs don't even record stuff like that. Who would have even imagined to do so??

As for people's reactions,everyone is different, but you're right. Michele seemed downright GIDDY in her TH. When my niece had the seizure, I didn't shed a tear until after the ambulance took her away, when I had a full-on sobbing panic attack. I'm good in an emergency, but when I have time to reflect, boy does it hit me. I don't know how the situation could NOT have visibly affected her. I mean, when they were in the ER, was she telling him to stop crying? Calming someone down is one thing, but a fall like that - even an adult would likely be crying. She seemed so unaffected and bossy. I did hear someone say to give him morphine - maybe it gave him a few minutes of peace.

[FakePigtails]

In addition to my disgust at the family for shoving multiple camera phones in the kid's face, did anyone else notice that JBoob's retelling of what happened involved the venue asking if they wanted to call an ambulance? How is that a question unless you have no moral compass and are trying to cover your business's ass? A kid fell 12 feet through a hole to a room you don't even know how to access. Idiots.

[longskirts]

I thought Jim Bob kind of acknowledged it was a dumb question when he said his answer was "yes please call one immediately". Like duh we need one RIGHT NOW.

In an emergency you should just call, you don't wait for permission.

[moreorlessnu]

It's almost as thought someone asked Michelle (off screen) why she pulled out her phone to tape the incident, and her answer was along the lines of "Oh, my kids did it too, so I can't possibly be *that* bad if everyone else did it, too."

[Koala]

Omg, that was chilling. I can't get over the sight of her stretching to hold that phone over his little face when the EMT was trying to work on him, and the HUGE smile she had on her face when they were rolling him to the ambulance. What kind of sick person does that???

I have 2 children, and if ANYONE tried to video tape them in a situation like that, I would break the effing cameras into a million pieces. The one time my son had to go to the ER, we never even thought to call family, much less video it. Want to know when we called everyone? Try once we were home and our son was in bed asleep. We were so worried about him, it just never crossed our minds to call anyone.

[luckylassie]

This may sound like a stupid question but when Josie was filmed struggling to breathe, who was filming? Why would a camera crew (if it was them) be at the house that late at night? They were all supposedly asleep.

[GeoBQn]

TLC posted the clip on the 19 Kids and Counting FB fan page. Out of about 200 comments, about 2 people thought that it was inappropriate for Michelle to be filming Jason on her phone. The rest are praising Michelle for "remaining calm." They are also praying for Jason, apparently not realizing that this happened months ago.

[Aeryn406]

IIRC, I think several of the girls rode with Josie in the back of the ambulance and one of them whipped out their iPhone. I wonder when that little technique became house protocol?

Re: Jason's fall - The FB page for 19K&C just started advertising the next VSE and the comments are filling up with "we'll be praying for you, sweetie!!" and "The family was so brave!" We need to even things out a bit with some good old FJ common sense!

[luckylassie]

maybe we should do some F.J. "soul winning" and go around to all the Duggar fawn forums spreading sense. TLC forums (as you probably know) are the worst. Anything negative toward the Duggars is magically deleted from the board. I registered there not long ago and got into it with another poster. Then, surprise...my comments vanish into thin air.

How would Michelle feel, I wonder, if Jason whipped out a camera during a time of HER own misery and then put it on you tube? I can dream can't I?

[treemom]

So he fell into the orchestra pit? And the theater didn't know how to access it? That is really WTF. I doubt it was just a gaping hole to fall into BTW. If it was the orchestra pit it means unsurprisingly the kids were not being supervised.

[Aeryn406]

maybe we should do some F.J. "soul winning" and go around to all the Duggar fawn forums spreading sense. TLC forums (as you probably know) are the worst. Anything negative toward the Duggars is magically deleted from the board. I registered there not long ago and got into it with another poster. Then, surprise...my comments vanish into thin air.

How would Michelle feel, I wonder, if Jason whipped out a camera during a time of HER own misery and then put it on you tube? I can dream can't I?

First: Comments don't disappear from FB! 8-)

Second: I'm sure if one of the kids taped J'Chelle or DimBulb at an awkward moment, they'd be lectured on how uncaring and disrespectful it was and then they'd really get it once the TLC cameras went away. :?

[3 is enough]

unsurprisingly the kids were not being supervised.

Yes. That was my first thought. They were probably running around backstage creating their usual havoc, and this was the result. Not their fault, but Michelle's usual "boys will be boys, they have so much energy to burn" really came back to bite her this time.

Wonder if they will keep a closer eye on them after this? I somehow doubt it.

[JenniferJuniper]

:cry: That poor wee boy.....I hope he's all right. And I hope the family feel the effects of this accident. Any chance of a CPS investigation?

I think a dime should be dropped and CPS notified.

Last night I sent a link to the video to Paul Petersen's Minor Consideration website. He despises TLC and wants them out of the child exploitation business. He was also all over Jon and Kate, but I'm not sure I've ever heard of him addressing the Duggars and their show specifically. Here's his chance.

[Eclipse]

I don't know if there is anything wrong with Jill's retelling of the events. When I was a 10, most of my class and my older sister's class all saw one of my sister's friends get hit by a car one day while we walked home from school. He was visibly more injured and died after being taken off life support. But to this day, whenever any of us talk about it, we use the same tone of voice and demeanour that Jill did, mostly because we would crumple into a mess if we let emotions come up talking about it.

Where was JimBob or Michelle? Shouldn't the parents have some idea where their 11 year old is so you don't have to go searching for the dark hole he falls into? His screams were bone chilling.