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Lori 67: Stop reading - it'll give you ideas

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ViolaSebastian
4 hours ago, Briefly said:

I hope that does not mean anything has happened to Alyssa, I think she's the pregnant one.  Lori is such a despicable piece of filth that I can easily see her doing something like that.

As of an hour ago, Alyssa was out boating on the Amalfi coast. I think she's doing okay. 

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Another gem from one of Lori's fan boys. He is a avowed white Christian nationalist and his friends include many other racist fan boys and girls (Severine, Julie B. ) who fawn all over Lori. Ken has been sent screenshots of John's racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric but as usual nothing is ever done. Birds of a feather. 

 

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5 minutes ago, livinglongerthanyou said:

Another gem from one of Lori's fan boys. He is a avowed white Christian nationalist and his friends include many other racist fan boys and girls (Severine, Julie B. ) who fawn all over Lori. Ken has been sent screenshots of John's racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric but as usual nothing is ever done. Birds of a feather. 

 

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This makes me so incredibly angry. Lori and der ilk are despicable, hateful sadists. And I mean that quite literally: They downplay abuse, are obsessed with corporal punishment, fawn over the Pearls, hate Muslims, ridicule refugees, want to oppress women in a multitude of ways... 

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2 hours ago, louisa05 said:

One of the three principals I worked for at hell the Christian school made the kids do that one constantly. On the intercom, at chapel, at pep rallies...It was popular with the charismatic/neo-pentecostal crowd.

He did it as a two parter as follows: 

Leader: God is Good! 

Crowd: All the Time!

Leader: And All the Time!

Crowd: God is Good! 

 

Sometimes that is said in my United Methodist Church.  Not every Sunday but sometimes.  The UMC does a lot of responsive reading, and it's occasionally included.

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hollyfeller

Ken is commenting on Dale Partridge's FB page again.  Rufus help me.

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Lgirlrocks

@ken we all know that “training” means beating for you. What you did was abuse. My parents spanked but it was nothing like what you guys did. Most people know that children are born innocent, without sin. Sin comes into play much later. When kids are testing boundaries and learning right from wrong is when they need to be guided by a gentle hand not hit when they mess up. I’m not saying don’t punish a wrong doer. What I’m saying is don’t abuse them or beat them. All you are doing is teaching them what they shouldn’t get caught doing or saying. 

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3 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

@ken we all know that “training” means beating for you. What you did was abuse.

Absolutely.  Both Ken and Lori are responsible for the abuse . NO @Ken  you are not light years ahead of anyone.  You and your wife are child abusers: physically, emotionally and spiritually.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2019/01/lori-alexanders-cruel-child-discipline-advice/    (32 screenshots) .... depicting what Lori said. 

Lori, the internet remembers so keep deleting and trying to cover your ass.  You can't.  More and more people are seeing through you.  You abused you children, you advocate and encourage it.  You have spiritually abused your children and grandchildren (remember the "snake will get you" video story you told your grandchild?   You are a violent woman who hates almost all women (now that is a lot of hate).  You are judgmental, hateful, and lack compassion and empathy.  

 

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I believe my children were a gift not so much to me but to the world and I am forever thankful I get to be a part of their lives. Their individuality is not there to be broken, it is the true gift of god to them and to the rest of us. They have a part in this world and their aim should be to find that path and for me and their father to try to help them do this as smoothly as possible. Yes, they do need to learn what is right and what is wrong, they need to learn what to do in different situations, they need to get to know god. Most of all they need to be loved because god is most prominently shown in love and god is the greatest love of all. By knowing love children get to meet god. Having a parent there who loves you, tries to be a good example and who when necessary points you in the right direction is a great gift and I do think this brings children closer to god and makes them be able to be functional in society at large but I have a hard time seeing this in many of these fundamentalist Christian parenting techniques. Children are instead treated as more or less the same, punishments are tough, expectations on behavior very high and often not age appropriate. I am sad to say that they seem to often miss the uniqueness of their children and failing to help them live up to their full potential. Children are not possessions, they are their own beings but parents were given an important role at a crucial point to help them. Reading Ken's comment just makes me so sad for all these children who had to be viewed as flawed from the start. 

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15 hours ago, louisa05 said:

Leader: God is Good! 

Crowd: All the Time!

Not relegated just to fundy schools. My kids Catholic school would often do this, too. 

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1 hour ago, SongRed7 said:

Not relegated just to fundy schools. My kids Catholic school would often do this, too. 

I taught in Catholic school, later. None of that. But even if there had been, something tells me not  six times a day or more in any Catholic school.  Beginning and end of morning announcements, beginning and end of homeroom announcements, beginning and end of afternoon announcements. Beginning of chapel, after the singing before the guest speaker at chapel, end of chapel. Beginning and end of all other assemblies. Beginning and end of all pep rallies. It was like it never stopped. On Thursdays (chapel day) it was at least nine times. It is one of the things from there that gives me anxiety when I hear it. 

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I have a friend (who is one of the best mamas I know) who talks about being very, very careful not to break her young son's will. She wants to raise him equipped with the tools to become leader and an advocate, should he chose to do so, and she has this beautiful parenting philosophy that focuses on differentiating age-appropriate meltdowns due to developmentally-related lack of emotional control and willful breaking of the rules. (All of her and her partner's rules are very fair and focused on safety and family harmony). Interestingly, she's one of the most devout Christians I personally know--but she's into that "socialist, long-haired, freaky hippy Jesus" I keep reading about in, I dunno, the Bible or someplace. ;) Ken and Lori could take several, several seats when it comes to her parenting style. Oh, and her son is an absolute treasure.

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EowynW

Ken is always on Dale's page. Lori can often be found there too. 

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Antipatriarch
18 hours ago, louisa05 said:

It was popular with the charismatic/neo-pentecostal crowd.

He did it as a two parter as follows: 

Leader: God is Good! 

Crowd: All the Time!

Leader: And All the Time!

Crowd: God is Good! 

Israel Houghton has a song "You Are Good" that has that for a bridge ("You are good... All the time... All the time... You are good." repeated a bunch of times). (Link below.)

If you want to see something cringe-worthy, visit a church with a bunch of white folks leading and singing this, some of them clapping on 1 and 3, the rest trying not to get too "emotional" cause that would be undignified.

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ViolaSebastian
3 minutes ago, Antipatriarch said:

Israel Houghton has a song "You Are Good" that has that for a bridge ("You are good... All the time... All the time... You are good." repeated a bunch of times). (Link below.)

If you want to see something cringe-worthy, visit a church with a bunch of white folks leading and singing this, some of them clapping on 1 and 3, the rest trying not to get too "emotional" cause that would be undignified.

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Oh, there is so much tragic hair in this video. 

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42 minutes ago, Antipatriarch said:

Israel Houghton has a song "You Are Good" that has that for a bridge ("You are good... All the time... All the time... You are good." repeated a bunch of times). (Link below.)

If you want to see something cringe-worthy, visit a church with a bunch of white folks leading and singing this, some of them clapping on 1 and 3, the rest trying not to get too "emotional" cause that would be undignified.

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The Southern Baptist church we went to while we were attempting Fundy had that song just about every week.  The choir director, who I am firmly convinced was certain that HE was the most important person/thing/etc. at that church, would stretch out the word Good for what seemed like hours!  Like he was personally responsible for telling God that he (God) is gooooooooooooooooooooooooood.  He left that church before we did, he went to another church and last I heard he had pretty much taken over their entire music program to feature himself.  That is what I think of when I hear that song.

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We all know proper parenting is hard work, something Lori isn't really akin to. 

It's nurturing their interests, whether it be cooking (I've spent so much on cooking utensils, equipment, and spices that Lori would be jealous of our kitchen), music lessons (which Ken and Lori never speak of, so I assume that they can't play any instruments), or art (again, they don't speak about this either).  It's funny how God speaks to Lori about things that interest Lori only.

It's tough being a good parent. To them, it's all about breaking the will of the child. They don't seem to understand that a broken child ends up being a broken adult. It doesn't sound like their wills were broken when they were children.

As for her doodle on dying children, Lori needs to STFU.  I wonder what the impetus of her latest doodle is.  I hope that none of her grandchildren are sick or dying.

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wallysmommy

Thread title -- I probably should stop reading her FB and IG for the sake of my blood pressure and having ideas of kicking her in her skinny ass.

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1 hour ago, Antipatriarch said:

Israel Houghton has a song "You Are Good" that has that for a bridge ("You are good... All the time... All the time... You are good." repeated a bunch of times). (Link below.)

If you want to see something cringe-worthy, visit a church with a bunch of white folks leading and singing this, some of them clapping on 1 and 3, the rest trying not to get too "emotional" cause that would be undignified.

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I can't even watch that. Repetitive worship choruses give me anxiety symptoms. Not as much on video as when experienced in person. 

A crazy ass woman whose career is "life coach and motivational speaker" and running a nursing home that the state has shut down for a myriad of reasons does our confirmation retreats and has latched on to evangelical worship music. So she plays videos of it at the retreat and orders the kids (and adults in attendance) to sin, dance and wave arms with it to prove that they love Jesus. I literally have to leave the room as I get such terrible anxiety around that stuff since leaving the Christian school. 

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37 minutes ago, wallysmommy said:

Thread title -- I probably should stop reading her FB and IG for the sake of my blood pressure and having ideas of kicking her in her skinny ass.

I'll hold your hoops. 

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6 hours ago, elliha said:

I believe my children were a gift not so much to me but to the world and I am forever thankful I get to be a part of their lives. Their individuality is not there to be broken, it is the true gift of god to them and to the rest of us. They have a part in this world and their aim should be to find that path and for me and their father to try to help them do this as smoothly as possible. Yes, they do need to learn what is right and what is wrong, they need to learn what to do in different situations, they need to get to know god. Most of all they need to be loved because god is most prominently shown in love and god is the greatest love of all. By knowing love children get to meet god. Having a parent there who loves you, tries to be a good example and who when necessary points you in the right direction is a great gift and I do think this brings children closer to god and makes them be able to be functional in society at large but I have a hard time seeing this in many of these fundamentalist Christian parenting techniques. Children are instead treated as more or less the same, punishments are tough, expectations on behavior very high and often not age appropriate. I am sad to say that they seem to often miss the uniqueness of their children and failing to help them live up to their full potential. Children are not possessions, they are their own beings but parents were given an important role at a crucial point to help them. Reading Ken's comment just makes me so sad for all these children who had to be viewed as flawed from the start. 

I loved this comment, @elliha.  Ken's comment made me sad too.  I followed the link to that Patheos blog post @Liza posted and now I'm feeling nauseous.  

My parents spanked us a lot, sometimes repetitively.  I'm still stubborn and strong willed, but strangely enough, I struggle with fear of authorities. I guess that's the only thing all those spankings taught me: fear authority because they have the right to inflict pain on you and humiliate you. 

Spanking is assault and the opposite of treating others as you would have them treat you. I believe that spanking on the bare bottom, as Lori recommends, is nothing less than sexual assault.   It will mess with the brain of a child. 

At the very least, being beaten by those who ought to love her and protect her sets a child up to question God's love. God is supposed to be our father. How exactly is a child supposed to trust God as his father when his earthly father beats him into submission?  

 

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4 hours ago, louisa05 said:

I taught in Catholic school, later. None of that. But even if there had been, something tells me not  six times a day or more in any Catholic school.  Beginning and end of morning announcements, beginning and end of homeroom announcements, beginning and end of afternoon announcements. Beginning of chapel, after the singing before the guest speaker at chapel, end of chapel. Beginning and end of all other assemblies. Beginning and end of all pep rallies. It was like it never stopped. On Thursdays (chapel day) it was at least nine times. It is one of the things from there that gives me anxiety when I hear it. 

I hate that it was forced so much as to trigger that.  It's something I hear once in a while in church, and it always brings a big smile to me because I associate it with a wonderful, boisterous adopted grandma of mine who represented unconditional love to me while I was growing up - She was always there with a hug, a fresh baked cookie, and a smile for a kid who felt like she never belonged anywhere else.  My experience of it as an adult is of an emotional safe-space because of her.  

 

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16 minutes ago, onemama said:

My parents spanked us a lot, sometimes repetitively.  I'm still stubborn and strong willed, but strangely enough, I struggle with fear of authorities. I guess that's the only thing all those spankings taught me: fear authority because they have the right to inflict pain on you and humiliate you. 

I think what being spanked and yelled at as a child taught me was to be quiet and stay out of the way. Still to this day I'm finding that sometimes I'll see something and say "Oh, I always wanted to do that..." (take dance lessons, stuff like that) and my mom will say "But you never asked!" 

Well of course I didn't ask. I never asked for anything I didn't really have to. I'd check out every ballet book in the library and practice the moves in my bedroom using the footboard as a barre, read every novel I could find with a dancer in it, read biographies of famous dancers, I'd go to my friend's recitals, I'd watch them dance and twirl batons in the parade, I'd try to teach myself to twirl a toy baton, etc. The too-big hand-me-down ballet shoes we got were kept carefully in my closet (and worn to try dancing) for years and years. Any TV show or movie with dancing in it, I'd watch as often as possible. I could not possibly have done anything more to show my interest. But I'd never ever ask. Lessons cost money. Costumes cost money. And I'd been yelled at plenty of times about how "We're not made of money!" We took piano, because mom plays piano. We did a couple years of gymnastics (Impossible while wearing my heavy thick glasses and being incredibly nearsighted) because my sister kept trying to use the sofa as a balance beam and nearly broke it and her. But no dancing.

If I'd had kids, I'd have wanted them to not be afraid to ask for things. Sure, they couldn't possibly get everything they asked for, but I wouldn't want them to think that their interests didn't matter, or that they weren't important enough to ask for things. 

I love my parents, but I still try not to ask them for anything, and feel bad when I do. I take on too much and feel bad passing on things I just can't fit in. I'm pretty sure that's not what they meant to teach, but there it is. 

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On 5/30/2019 at 2:40 AM, Lgirlrocks said:

@hollyfeller those pictures are beautiful. Lori would say those women are taking jobs from men. 

I agree those pictures are great.

Re: Women taking mens jobs

This is what I don't get, sometimes women take over the family business. For example, my friend has 4 daughters, no sons. They are still in school but they are in 4-H, help with chores, gifted in athletics and academics. I can see at least one of them taking over or working with her dad and mom on the family farm after they grow up. If one of the daughters does this, even if she is married, it doesn't mean her future husband is skilled in animal husbandry, livestock care, etc. There are things you learn just by growing up and doing* (with dad/grandpa/mom, etc) on a farm. 

So how would her taking over the family business "taking a job away from a man"? (Not asking Lgirlrocks, just in general, how would Lori say that is taking a job away from a man...there was nor never would be a job posting for "taking over family farm".)

*not unschooling like the Nauglers, doing with an experienced farmer. 

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21 minutes ago, AuntKrazy said:

I hate that it was forced so much as to trigger that.  It's something I hear once in a while in church, and it always brings a big smile to me because I associate it with a wonderful, boisterous adopted grandma of mine who represented unconditional love to me while I was growing up - She was always there with a hug, a fresh baked cookie, and a smile for a kid who felt like she never belonged anywhere else.  My experience of it as an adult is of an emotional safe-space because of her.  

 

Many things I associate with that place trigger anxiety. It was spiritually and emotionally abusive. 

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More of this women are too emotional garbage. Yes, women are too emotional but a man can beat the shit out of his wife for asking a question but not be "too emotional". Emotions are not bad, it's what we do with them that can become toxic. I work with emotions everyday and the people, mainly kids, that I work with often have every right to feel the anger, hurt, and pain that they do. 

Also if you're raising women who are "emotional and weak" maybe it's because you're doing it wrong? I mean what could possibly go wrong with limiting access to education, telling a daughter her opinions, thoughts, and feelings don't matter and won't matter to her husband? Telling her that she can't fully understand scripture without a man? Nope that doesn't have any lasting harm and makes for totally adjusted adults.

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