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Michaela & Brandon Keilen 5: She Goes By Michaela

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imokit

Paediatric nursing isn't just cute babies and toddlers unless you do nicu or work on a specialised ward in a specialist children's hospital.

You can't hide from the gays/abortionists in paeds.

In a general hospital a paediatric ward will have a mix of ages. On my 23 bed ward there is nearly always at least one teenager admitted with self harm waiting for a mental health review.   There are often transgender teens or LGBT teens.

There is also a lot of talk about child protection.  Doing paediatrics would mean Michael confronting issues of parental autonomy.  What is and isn't ok.  What needs to be reported.  Child protection goes against fundamentalist values of parents (father) always being right and allowed to discipline/raise their children as they wish.

An adult in hospital may be gay, but probably won't be flinging it around the way a troubled a teenager would.  It can be easier not to notice the things you disagree with in patients on adult wards.

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Melissa1977
23 hours ago, imokit said:

Paediatric nursing isn't just cute babies and toddlers unless you do nicu or work on a specialised ward in a specialist children's hospital.

You can't hide from the gays/abortionists in paeds.

In a general hospital a paediatric ward will have a mix of ages. On my 23 bed ward there is nearly always at least one teenager admitted with self harm waiting for a mental health review.   There are often transgender teens or LGBT teens.

There is also a lot of talk about child protection.  Doing paediatrics would mean Michael confronting issues of parental autonomy.  What is and isn't ok.  What needs to be reported.  Child protection goes against fundamentalist values of parents (father) always being right and allowed to discipline/raise their children as they wish.

An adult in hospital may be gay, but probably won't be flinging it around the way a troubled a teenager would.  It can be easier not to notice the things you disagree with in patients on adult wards.

Unless she works for a very conservative doctor/hospital. Big hospitals cannot avoid the issues you stated, but I wonder what happens with a small hospital in a extremely conservative rural area.

As for Michaela having to change her beliefs due to her nursing job, if she's truly convinced she's not going to change. For decades, nuns worked in hospitals in my area (including very sick children as patients) and their job didn't make them less fundie. They were known by their coldness. 

 

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JermajestyDuggar

Maybe Michael will get “lucky” and find a super conservative fundie pediatrician to work for. You know, a quack like Patrick Johnston (TAM’s husband) would probably be a fundie nurse dream job. 🙄

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SassyPants

A smaller hospital would likely not have a booming pediatric department. Most children get treated in big centers or in specialized children’s hospitals. Also, picu and Nicu patients are quite sick. This would not be similar to enjoying time in the company of children. I think a medical office might better suit the bill. 

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QuiverFullofBooks

Michael and Brandon are having a Black Friday sale, if you want baby gear, homemade ornaments, or an illustrated children’s book about a medieval quest.

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ColeJo

I'm not very familiar with the nursing field, but specialized areas like the NICU typically require a BSN. I think Michaela is working to become an LPN. I can only speak for my area, but I don't see them anywhere besides home care and assisted living. One of my local health systems do not seem to utilize LPNs or even MAs as much because they hire RNs. Employers prefer registered nurses having a BSN.

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SassyPants
1 hour ago, ColeJo said:

I'm not very familiar with the nursing field, but specialized areas like the NICU typically require a BSN. I think Michaela is working to become an LPN. I can only speak for my area, but I don't see them anywhere besides home care and assisted living. One of my local health systems do not seem to utilize LPNs or even MAs as much because they hire RNs. Employers prefer registered nurses having a BSN.

I’m a retired Nicu nurse in CA. I also have a BSN, and many RNs only have AA degrees, but that doesn’t prevent them from ICU work in my state. Now being an LPN would prevent Nicu or picu work, at least in any facility where I have worked. However, the RN with an AA ( step down from BSN) is fully employable at the staff nurse level. Management positions require more advanced degrees. Every state is different though.

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Granwych
On 11/28/2019 at 1:36 AM, imokit said:

Paediatric nursing isn't just cute babies and toddlers unless you do nicu or work on a specialised ward in a specialist children's hospital.

You can't hide from the gays/abortionists in paeds.

In a general hospital a paediatric ward will have a mix of ages. On my 23 bed ward there is nearly always at least one teenager admitted with self harm waiting for a mental health review.   There are often transgender teens or LGBT teens.

There is also a lot of talk about child protection.  Doing paediatrics would mean Michael confronting issues of parental autonomy.  What is and isn't ok.  What needs to be reported.  Child protection goes against fundamentalist values of parents (father) always being right and allowed to discipline/raise their children as they wish.

An adult in hospital may be gay, but probably won't be flinging it around the way a troubled a teenager would.  It can be easier not to notice the things you disagree with in patients on adult wards.

When I was a student nurse I cried more on pediatrics rotations than any other one.   Wherever she goes I hope she does well.

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just_ordinary

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Would I want to be cared for by Michael if I had no other option? Sure. But if I did, I certainly would prefer someone else. With people like her I would fear to find tracts on my nightstand, get into discussions about Jesus. She has the same holier than though attitude as the rest. She wears a skirt scrub. If that isn’t a massive red flag. I cannot believe that she is the right person to care for people who are in a vulnerable position if she detects big differences. I am sure she will feel the need to “save” them. I can see her working at a crisis pregnancy centre afterwards.

Michaela is the second or maybe only third best option in my opinion. 

But yes, that’s still better than not receiving care at all. 

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SassyPants
3 hours ago, just_ordinary said:

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Would I want to be cared for by Michael if I had no other option? Sure. But if I did, I certainly would prefer someone else. With people like her I would fear to find tracts on my nightstand, get into discussions about Jesus. She has the same holier than though attitude as the rest. She wears a skirt scrub. If that isn’t a massive red flag. I cannot believe that she is the right person to care for people who are in a vulnerable position if she detects big differences. I am sure she will feel the need to “save” them. I can see her working at a crisis pregnancy centre afterwards.

Michaela is the second or maybe only third best option in my opinion. 

But yes, that’s still better than not receiving care at all. 

Lots of nurses wear scrub dresses, especially older nurses. MK would not stand out for dressing in a skirt or a dress.

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just_ordinary
6 hours ago, SassyPants said:

Lots of nurses wear scrub dresses, especially older nurses. MK would not stand out for dressing in a skirt or a dress.

That’s interesting. I have never seen that apart from movies set before the 70s. And I have had my fair share of hospitality experience as patient and visitor.

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Eponine
On 11/30/2019 at 3:09 PM, just_ordinary said:

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Would I want to be cared for by Michael if I had no other option? Sure. But if I did, I certainly would prefer someone else. With people like her I would fear to find tracts on my nightstand, get into discussions about Jesus. She has the same holier than though attitude as the rest. She wears a skirt scrub. If that isn’t a massive red flag. I cannot believe that she is the right person to care for people who are in a vulnerable position if she detects big differences. I am sure she will feel the need to “save” them. I can see her working at a crisis pregnancy centre afterwards.

I've seen plenty of students in our program who come from very conservative religious traditions that mandate skirts and sometimes head coverings - it does not at all make them any less capable of caring for patients, or less capable of compassion. I work with many, many of them and I've never once heard a word about religion in the context of their studies or clinicals. We have a whole section of our nursing program for women from some very conservative Orthodox Jewish communities in the area and they do everything all the other students do, but they wear skirt scrubs and sometimes head coverings or wigs.

Honestly, anyone from any background could make a terrible nurse, religious people have no monopoly on that. It's hard and emotionally exhausting to begin with so it takes a strong and dedicated person to pursue that career.  Some fundies probably can't handle it for religious reasons, and they likely end up in private offices or pregnancy crisis centers, etc, like you mentioned. I just don't think it's fair to write off any nurse who wears nurse scrubs as probably bad at their job.

Incidentally, what I hear from anecdotes from our nursing students and faculty is that patients are more likely to refuse to be treated by particular nurses or doctors - the most common are stories of religious men of various flavors who don't want to be treated by female doctors (but nurses are usually okay, oddly), and non-religious assholes who refuse to be treated by Muslim doctors or nurses who wear head coverings.

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HereticHick
On 11/30/2019 at 3:09 PM, just_ordinary said:

 She wears a skirt scrub. If that isn’t a massive red flag.

I'm bracing myself for your sharing your "opinions" about hijab-wearing women in the medical field.

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squiddysquid

When I was in medschool, I did an exchange semester in SE Asia, all females wore skirts in the operating theatre (what I couldn't get used to were the surgery flip flops...) Medical students wear school uniforms, that meant skirts for the girls.

As to why I think Michaella will be a good nurse; compassion and empathy go a long way in that profession and if she does an RN program, she'll have the knowledge, board exams and all.

I don't know about nurses, but one of the major rules is treating every patient the same - with the best means possible - and never be judgemental, that's not our job. If you come to my hospital, I don't care who you are, you'll get the care you need - anything else would be against regulations too, pretty certain that's the standard in nursing as well.

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theotherelise

Hopefully Michaela uses her next few months in LPN training and then time in RN school to determine where she fits best in the field. It would also be perfectly fine if she decided while getting her LPN that becoming an RN would not comport with the restrictions of beliefs and then looked for work in a hospice or nursing home or something. From what I've heard, clinicals have a way of really opening ones eyes to some of the realities of the work. 

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nelliebelle1197
On 11/29/2019 at 1:43 AM, Melissa1977 said:

Unless she works for a very conservative doctor/hospital. Big hospitals cannot avoid the issues you stated, but I wonder what happens with a small hospital in a extremely conservative rural area.

As for Michaela having to change her beliefs due to her nursing job, if she's truly convinced she's not going to change. For decades, nuns worked in hospitals in my area (including very sick children as patients) and their job didn't make them less fundie. They were known by their coldness. 

 

I am not sure there is much difference. People who are ideologues and cannot care for certain people have no business in a medical profession.

On 11/30/2019 at 6:59 PM, SassyPants said:

Lots of nurses wear scrub dresses, especially older nurses. MK would not stand out for dressing in a skirt or a dress.

Really? Not around here!

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Syriana

Over here, the only place you wouldn't find dresses as an option is theatre - every other department has options.

MK is going to have to adhere to the appropriate professional standards of whichever facility she ultimately works at, she will be neither the first nor the last to have to cover personal distaste with a professional facade.  Having the ability to keep your opinions off your face and out of your actions is something common to many professions (emergency services, medical, legal and teaching to name a few...and retail, at this time of year especially so as good manners seem to be regularly forgotten!).

 

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