Lori Alexander 66: An Assortment of Cheap Whines

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

The horse of truth is also telling a big ol' untruth.  He may have scrambled for jobs in college, but Lori never did.  He father paid for everything.  Ken may have been broke after college, but Lori had daddy's money to fall back on.  

And yes, while they did live in a trailer for a while, Lori is on record as saying she hated it and was miserable. Ken, on the other hand, says it was one of the happiest times of his life. It was also after living in that trailer that Lori Ken decided he would be an orthodontic consultant rather than a pastor. Hmmm... I wonder what led to that decision?

And really?  They always intended to have 4 children?  Seriously?  Never seen that before.

This whole we tried to have more babies but it was too late nonsense is getting old and needs to stop right damn now,.  Lori had 4 kids by 30.  She quit having children and prevented more by using BC or abstinence or whatever.  They only decided to try again when she was 45. 

Kenny do the math:  For 15 years, when Lori would have been able to get pregnant, she actively chose not to.  Then at 45 she is "convicted" and decides to have more, knowing damn well the odds are miniscule to nil.

If she/ you love all the babeez so much then you would have kept going after 4.  But you chose to stop. You concentrated on growing your business, making money and saving for retirement -- not to mention buying that huge house in San Diego.  So just shut up about trusting the Lord to provide. You sure as hell didn't.  Stop being such a blatant hypocrite.

Edited May 24, 2019 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[ViolaSebastian]

I think a certain someone is leaving some important details out of his origin story...

[Sarah92]

Ken's comment shows how far removed he is from poverty. Being poor is expensive. The substandard housing he's recommending will cost the family more in the long run. Many of the families I was working with were very nervous during that cold snap when it became incredibly cold. There was a big fear of pipes freezing and bursting because they wouldn't be able to afford repairs. Roofs caving in from leaks, holes in floors, bad wiring that can lead to fires, draft Windows.... Is that what Ken recommend kids live in? Because that's what substandard housing looks like.  Those are the houses I counsel kids from. Trust that God gives us the wisdom to make good choices and don't have children you can't feed. 

[ViolaSebastian]

26 minutes ago, Sarah92 said:

Ken's comment shows how far removed he is from poverty. Being poor is expensive. The substandard housing he's recommending will cost the family more in the long run. Many of the families I was working with were very nervous during that cold snap when it became incredibly cold. There was a big fear of pipes freezing and bursting because they wouldn't be able to afford repairs. Roofs caving in from leaks, holes in floors, bad wiring that can lead to fires, draft Windows.... Is that what Ken recommend kids live in? Because that's what substandard housing looks like.  Those are the houses I counsel kids from. Trust that God gives us the wisdom to make good choices and don't have children you can't feed. 

I also feel like Ken is confusing living in a trailer with substandard housing. A trailer, in and of itself, is not necessarily substandard housing. What you described is substandard housing. I have a hard time believing that Lori's father would pay for his daughter to live in the conditions you described.

[livinglongerthanyou]

So Ken is saying it's soooooo godly to live in substandard housing? No, Ken, you idiot. It's not godly. It's dangerous and stressful. Mold. Drafts. Illness from being crammed together. Depression. Repairs you can't afford. Dangerous neighborhoods. You and Lori just need to STFU.

[Dreadcrumbs]

10 hours ago, ViolaSebastian said:

I think a certain someone is leaving some important details out of his origin story...

A 10 by 40 trailer and 12 yr old cars? Oh, the horror of it all!

[Curious]

4 hours ago, Dreadcrumbs said:

A 10 by 40 trailer and 12 yr old cars? Oh, the horror of it all!

While a 10x40 trailer is not luxurious if my math is correct (always debatable) it's about the same size as an average studio apartment.   I'm pretty sure that is roughly the size of the apartment my husband was living in when I moved out here.   While it was not ideal for us (mostly because I brought all my own stuff with me when I moved and I'd been living on my own for 10 years by then so had all the stuff you need to run a household) it wasn't awful and it definitely wasn't substandard. 

I think Ken is confusing SMALL with substandard because due to his and Lori's privilege they were used to larger living conditions.

[EyesOpen]

Ima guessing Lori wouldn’t love this bad ass chick who is here in my house fixing my dishwasher because she owns her own appliance repair company. 

[Lgirlrocks]

Being a stay at home wife/mom isn’t full potential for women. Even stay at home moms have more to themselves than just being a mom/wife. I work full time but I am more than just a career women who is educated. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

From FB comments on "Fertility isn't Forever".  Putting this here while it's still up on the FB.  Would someone please make a screen shot to capture for posterity?

Got to say I'm loving Gail for giving it back to Kenny: 

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Gail Xxxxxx Ken Alexander Uhm being obsessed with fertility does not lead to an interest in adoption. Most Christian couples do not adopt and treat it as an inferior last resort to infertility. My brother is adopted from foster care and there are hundreds o children that are desperate for homes.

Gail Xxxxxx  Also if you “loved” adoption so much— why did you never adopt ? If biological children a) created a desire for children b) you regret not having more children c) judge other women for not having more children— then why did you not adopt ? It’s not my place to judge why you never adopted but maybe stop creating a platform that shames women for their private family decisions and a weird obsession with biological children (adoption is rarely even mentioned on this page )

 

Edited May 25, 2019 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[Sarah92]

13 hours ago, ViolaSebastian said:

I also feel like Ken is confusing living in a trailer with substandard housing. A trailer, in and of itself, is not necessarily substandard housing. What you described is substandard housing. I have a hard time believing that Lori's father would pay for his daughter to live in the conditions you described.

That could very well be the case! I lived in a double wide trailer for a while and it was actually one of the nicer places I lived in growing up. Three bedrooms, walk in closet, two bathrooms ... But the way it's built isn't sturdy at all. When a big storm hit there was always some worry. But poverty and being poor is so stressful. For my family a single flat tire could be devastating.  There's endless problems with being poor that Ken and Lori just don't get. It's why I worked so fucking hard to choose to college and get a stable job. My parents couldn't afford to have me latched on to them while I waited to get married to some random man in our small town. (I don't think I'd marry any of the guys from my home town)

[ViolaSebastian]

33 minutes ago, Sarah92 said:

That could very well be the case! I lived in a double wide trailer for a while and it was actually one of the nicer places I lived in growing up. Three bedrooms, walk in closet, two bathrooms ... But the way it's built isn't sturdy at all. When a big storm hit there was always some worry. But poverty and being poor is so stressful. For my family a single flat tire could be devastating.  There's endless problems with being poor that Ken and Lori just don't get. It's why I worked so fucking hard to choose to college and get a stable job. My parents couldn't afford to have me latched on to them while I waited to get married to some random man in our small town. (I don't think I'd marry any of the guys from my home town)

One of my real objections with Ken and Lori's poverty porn story line is that, in my opinion, they didn't ever actual live in poverty. They may have been poor, yes, but they had one hell of a safety net in Lori's dad. I doubt that they ever had to worry how they would get to work if their car broke down and they didn't have the money to pay for repairs, I doubt they ever had to forgo medical treatment because they just didn't have the money for co-pays, and I doubt they ever felt the absolute hopeless of living in a situation where there was no discernible or realistic way out. Lori's dad could, and frequently did, give them an extraordinary amount of assistance, both during and after this time period. Temporarily living in what was probably a pretty decent trailer and driving 12-year-old cars while you're in grad school is worlds away from having six children and living on $22,000 a year and being so poor that you pay your 10-year-old $10 to pull out her own tooth.

Edited May 25, 2019 by ViolaSebastian

[Lgirlrocks]

I never found myself in college. Moving away from home and going to school gave me the strength to come out as an atheist and a lesbian. I was both of those living at home, being home schooled and going to church. Even when I went out for school in the eighth grade and high school I felt that way. I question religion my whole life. I was always sexually attracted to women, when I started having sexual attractions. College has nothing to do with this. College allowed me the freedom to finally be who I was all of the time. 

College hasn't made me less marriageable. If anything it’s made me more ready for marriage. I had to budget for groceries and anything else I needed while in school. I worked and went to school. I had to figure out how to do things on my own. Like when my car battery died. I didn’t have someone right there to do things for me. I am smarter. I learned so much that I may not have taken the time to learn on my own. 

I love how lori never answers questions directly. She has no answers. She shouldn’t post things she knows nothing about. My mom always quotes this article she read about how to stay out of poverty. It’s graduate from high school. Don’t get pregnant or get someone pregnant in high school. And go to college. I had a friend who did all of those and was still in poverty. He had no family to fall on. How do we solve poverty? Well Lori could do what Jesus said to do and give all of her possessions away and follow him. They could foster or adopt, I hope they never get to or they would end up in jail. She could advocate for stricter punishments for people who rape. Offer to help pay for the births of women who want to abort. 

Spoiler

 

[lilwriter85]

16 hours ago, ViolaSebastian said:

I also feel like Ken is confusing living in a trailer with substandard housing. A trailer, in and of itself, is not necessarily substandard housing. What you described is substandard housing. I have a hard time believing that Lori's father would pay for his daughter to live in the conditions you described.

I agree, I don't think Lori's father would have had her living in that kind of situation. Many mobile homes are well designed and can be great if maintained well in later years. 

1 hour ago, ViolaSebastian said:

One of my real objections with Ken and Lori's poverty porn story line is that, in my opinion, they didn't ever actual live in poverty. They may have been poor, yes, but they had one hell of a safety net in Lori's dad. I doubt that they ever had to worry how they would get to work if their car broke down and they didn't have the money to pay for repairs, I doubt they ever had to forgo medical treatment because they just didn't have the money for co-pays, and I doubt they ever felt the absolute hopeless of living in a situation where there was no discernible or realistic way out. Lori's dad could, and frequently did, give them an extraordinary amount of assistance, both during and after this time period. Temporarily living in what was probably a pretty decent trailer and driving 12-year-old cars while you're in grad school is worlds away from having six children and living on $22,000 a year and being so poor that you pay your 10-year-old $10 to pull out her own tooth.

Ken doesn't or won't admit that he and Lori ended up better off than many other families. He managed to have a business that was able to comfortably support a family. They had 4 kids, which isn't small, but it's a lot affordable to support 4 kids instead of 10 kids. If Lori and Ken were sent to live with a large fundie family barely scraping by they would be asking to go home within a day. 

[lilwriter85]

On 5/24/2019 at 2:02 PM, freealljs said:

The only thing Lori expects from Ken is his paycheck.  She doesn't expect any love, happiness, and respect from him.  His paycheck is the only thing that matters to her.  I would feel bad for Ken for marrying a woman that clearly only sees his earnign potential, his $$$, except he's shown that he's a douche here on FJ and on FB.

I wonder what would happen if Ken's paycheck stopped coming in. I'm sure that she would expect her kids to take care of her financially (she doesn't care about emotional support), but really she shouldn't expect any $$$ from her kids.  She's going to be in for a rude awakening if Ken gets too sick to work or passes away.

I used to feel bad for Ken and I kind of think if he had married someone from a similar background he would been an ok person. When he was here on FJ, he mentioned how didn't grow up upper middle class like Lori and IIRC, he hinted that Lori couldn't understand certain financial issues.  

If something was to happen to Ken in the next few years like a major illness and financial difficulties occur, Lori would definitely be asking her kids to help. I don't think there is anything wrong with helping adult children helping out parents. But, with Lori you know she would expect complete support from her kids and I can't see her downsizing her lifestyle. 

[louisa05]

10 hours ago, Dreadcrumbs said:

A 10 by 40 trailer and 12 yr old cars? Oh, the horror of it all!

We just traded in an 18 year old car. For an 11 year old one. 

Those two make my eyes roll out of my head. No clue about how other people live. 

[livinglongerthanyou]

5 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Being a stay at home wife/mom isn’t full potential for women. Even stay at home moms have more to themselves than just being a mom/wife. I work full time but I am more than just a career women who is educated. 

Jason has an awful lot of photos of himself for a "humble preacher". 

[SweetLaurel]

35 minutes ago, lilwriter85 said:

something was to happen to Ken in the next few years like a major illness and financial difficulties occur, Lori would definitely be asking her kids to help. I don't think there is anything wrong with helping adult children helping out parents. But, with Lori you know she would expect complete support from her kids and I can't see her downsizing her lifestyle. 

Why do people think she would have to downsize or have issues?  He is, I guarantee it, heavily insured.  They have good medical  insurance.  They have a retirement plan.  She will be FINE.  Yes, she will whine and moan and rely on the kids for emotional support but unlike many of us who had kids to support and now work 2 jobs to take care of them, her lifestyle will not change.  She will keep her house, still go to Door County and eat her slimy salads and toss out all the lube the day of.  

 

Edited May 25, 2019 by SweetLaurel
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[hollyfeller]

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but this is yet another example of a salad that makes me want to barf.  No way does Ken eat this 5 nights a week.

[Dreadcrumbs]

9 minutes ago, hollyfeller said:

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but this is yet another example of a salad that makes me want to barf.  No way does Ken eat this 5 nights a week.

Everything is in thick chunks. It looks weird. I'm not even sure yhe ingredients are always the problem with Lori's salads, but the composition.

I also doubt Ken eats this every night.

[lilwriter85]

I bet that homemade dressing tastes like crap. 

[ViolaSebastian]

Who wants to eat the same damn thing five nights in a row? Aside from the unappetizing nature of this photo, it seems odd that they're always eating the same thing night after night. Don't they get tired of it?

[feministxtian]

I still have to wonder how Lori would cope in a situation like mine. Would she be able to understand the medical jargon, make intelligent decisions for care, understand a medical POA? Would she be able to talk to the doctors and nurses to understand the disease/prognosis/treatment plan? Would she be able to provide care at home? Would she know the meds/dosages/times? 

Hey @Ken if you get sick, you're screwed. Better hope you can pony up for 24/7 home health. 

This educated, intelligent, formerly working woman can handle BOTH her husband's diseases, juggle meds, speak intelligently to medical staff, administer meds and understand what they are and what they treat..

[lilwriter85]

6 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

I still have to wonder how Lori would cope in a situation like mine. Would she be able to understand the medical jargon, make intelligent decisions for care, understand a medical POA? Would she be able to talk to the doctors and nurses to understand the disease/prognosis/treatment plan? Would she be able to provide care at home? Would she know the meds/dosages/times? 

Hey @Ken if you get sick, you're screwed. Better hope you can pony up for 24/7 home health. 

This educated, intelligent, formerly working woman can handle BOTH her husband's diseases, juggle meds, speak intelligently to medical staff, administer meds and understand what they are and what they treat..

I think Lori would try to act like she knows more than the doctors. Several months back, she bitched on IG or somewhere that her father's doctor wanted him to drink four cans of Ensure a day for health reasons. Lori felt it wasn't right because of the sugar content.  I can see her doing similar things if Ken was seriously ill or injured. If Ken need home health care services I can see Lori being rude to caregivers or nurses. 

[kpmom]

On 5/23/2019 at 9:26 AM, ViolaSebastian said:

DI found a new one recently called Forever, which is on Amazon. It has Maya Rudolph and Fred Armisen as a couple who die and go to the other side, where life is pretty boring. Its funny, but it’s thus far been very “clean” humor. For some reason I can’t do really dirty stuff when I don’t feel well. Maybe is age setting in, as well. ?

I keep seeing that advertised when I sign on to Amazon Prime and wondered about it.  So thank you for mentioning it.

Also on Amazon Prime (hope it hasn't been mentioned already), I'd highly recommend "Fleabag".  I'm not even sure how to describe it.  A comedy, but not entirely.  Yeah, that's not really helpful, I know. ?  It's hard to describe, you'd just have to watch it.  It's not "clean" but not "really dirty" either, imo.  I'm not into "really dirty" either.

I watched Season One two years ago when I was in the hospital, and really enjoyed it.  Season Two just came out.  I'm trying to hold back watching it all in one sitting.