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1 hour ago, Petronella said:

This makes me so mad! SO MAD! Calling socialising “useless”?????? So, human connections and mutual caring are worthless to Lori?? How tragic. How can someone read that and want to follow her?

I’m also ticked off at games being wasteful, though that is less obviously awful and more mainstream to hate. I find that games—both solitary ones and games with friends—give a happy structure to my downtime. They give me pleasure, and make me think and overcome challenges. When I play with others, relationships are strengthened. When I play alone, my creativity is refilled.

And if Lori truly believes that modern conveniences have given keepers-at-home lots of downtime, then WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH THEM USING THAT TIME TO WORK???????a

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This is more Lori projecting.  Who spends the most time on her computer doing wasteful things -- Give me an L, Give me an O, Give me an R_R_, I!  What does that spell -- LORI!

How many times can she dust and straighten up the five picture frames she has (her wedding pic, and her four kids wedding pics), her doodle journal, and her stack of concordances written by men?  If Ken is on the road, how much mess can she have? If she doesn't have a housekeeper (still suspicious on that one), then she probably makes Ken change the sheets on the bed because, you know, her injured neck and back.  She can't mop -- her injured neck and back.  She can't vacuum -- her injured neck and back.  I know people who are truly injured and require help, which they desperately need.  Heck, I have a housekeeper every two weeks and I'm not injured.  But I don't tell others what to do.  Lori, sometimes you play martyr/self-righteous card a little too hard.

 

 

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I’m an introvert and have been taking Prozac for depression for years. Socializing with friends is part of my medicine. I actually force myself to get out of the house to go to church and spend time with my friends because I know it’s healthy. 

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So now it’s not enough for Lori for women to be stay at home moms, they have to be stay at home moms with no down time and no friends.  It sounds like she truly wants to isolate women in a creepy, captive way.

Apparently she personally can spend tons of time online, however, disseminating her “do as I say, not as I do” beliefs.

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3 hours ago, Petronella said:

This makes me so mad! SO MAD! Calling socialising “useless”?????? So, human connections and mutual caring are worthless to Lori?? How tragic. How can someone read that and want to follow her?

I’m also ticked off at games being wasteful, though that is less obviously awful and more mainstream to hate. I find that games—both solitary ones and games with friends—give a happy structure to my downtime. They give me pleasure, and make me think and overcome challenges. When I play with others, relationships are strengthened. When I play alone, my creativity is refilled.

And if Lori truly believes that modern conveniences have given keepers-at-home lots of downtime, then WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH THEM USING THAT TIME TO WORK???????

Socializing has been lifesaving the last few weeks.

I moved to this community almost five years ago.  Had a small medical crisis that illustrated how few people we knew and could rely on, about a year after that.  So I've spent the past three years deliberately building a wide deep network of friends in different parts of the community.  It's just good for the health of a community to be connected.  To know people, to hep and be helped as needed.  Over the past month,  all those friendships have kept me going.  People to meet during school, after school, people who want to make fancy dinners, others who build model kits with the kids, places to volunteer and get out of my head for a few hours.  Worship services where I'm reminded that my religious community literally stands with us.

Human beings are social.  We group up, we bond, we come to each other's rescue when someone in a bonded group gets in trouble.  I therefore propose a new theory:  Lori-Who-Is-A-Monster is actually a Russian Bot.

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Above is why submitting for the sake of submitting it wrong. If men aren’t being “godly” leaders and aren’t loving their wives like Christ loves the church then a women shouldn’t have to submit to their authority. Biblical submission isn’t what Lori thinks it is. Women aren’t to be doormats. They are supposed to give their opinion and their husband has the final say. Any good man will listen to their wives and do what they say if it’s the right thing. 

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Lori women are no longer property. We no longer stone our children when they disobey. 

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 King James Version (KJV)

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

You can’t pick and choose what you follow in the Bible. That’s not how it works. 

My boyt friend and I are equals. It works because we take the time to listen to each other. Sorry Lori that you don’t know how to be a decent human.

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Lori has been boosting her post again

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Haven´t seen Margaret Gordon asking why all the unbelivers are allowed to post on a Christian page. 

This brothers me.
So the women who were mentored by Lori told they were being abused, but of course they weren´t because they were not physically abused or asked to do evil. I hope those women found someone else to mentor them, someone who knows that abuse can manifest in so many ways, not just physically. If her mentoring was anything like her "ministry" is now, it was bad, really bad. And it´s good thing that Lori does not mentor one-on-one longer, I bet my money on that she got too lazy to do that. And the pastor´s at their church(es) said she has to stop. And in the end no one wanted her to mentor.

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Countless times Lori has said that she won´t tolerate anyone on her page who don´t think like her. She delets scripture and well-rounded comments that challenge her narrow ways of thinking. 
I guess it´s safe to conclude that the comments she let´s stay are approved by her. Many comments has been deleted but this still remains, so it must be something she agrees with

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Last, but not least: this is how mean she is. She likes Tim´s comment (I´m sorry  I can´t take a screen shot where her "thumb up" shows

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Ah yes, the old your husband is neutered defense. I remember being told by a "christian man" my husband was the vagina bearer in our family because we were egalitarian. 

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20 minutes ago, EowynW said:

Ah yes, the old your husband is neutered defense. I remember being told by a "christian man" my husband was the vagina bearer in our family because we were egalitarian. 

How dare you be egalitarian?!? If your husband doesn't freeze at the sound of your raised voice, you're doing things wrong!!! :D

Obviously, I'm just kidding. I just couldn't resist making a tired old joke. And I'll show myself out.

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On the topic of Lori and Bible studies(which is in the recent post), I'm thinking she caused drama in the past at a Bible study was told not to return. So, she makes claims that every women's Bible study is a hangout for gossiping women. 

Lori has admitted that she can be bossy and I recall somwhere she admitted having a hard time making friends in school. I bet she's one of those people that doesn't realize that her bossy or shitty attitude is a turn off. 

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Here is one moore comment the Godly Mentor likes

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Here is a screen shot of her thumb up

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How is allowing these comments to stay and to like them teatching the young women to love their husbands? Why is it ok to mock women, to tell they are Jezebelz and subtile whores? 

Her "ministry" is moore and moore  a place for bitter and angry men vent their hate for women.

There is something really wrong with her. I hope her family would take her to see a doctor, because the way she behaves is plain and simple crazy :crazy:

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I believe she has a bossy and bad attitude (then and now), but she must have had friends in high school as she was on the homecoming court. Friendless people don't do that. 

And from the stories she tells she dated a lot of boys. She says they all tried to get in her pants -- but she kept going out with the same kind of guys.

I have nothing to base this on except a gut feeling, but I think Lori was what we called boy crazy and a flirty prick tease.

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Ephesians 5:21-33 King James Version (KJV)

21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

 

 

 

all I get from the above is that men are supposed to love their wives as god loves the church and as they love themselves. Lori’s version of submission is wrong. 

If Lori truly felt she was called to teach women she could set up a private page and only allow women to join it. Nope that won’t work for her. Most of her comments come from SINGLE men who can’t get/keep a wife. Of course the guys that comment want a doormat. Doormats lay there until you move it. They don’t think. 

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You don't even want to look at Lincoln Clay's FB page.  The cover picture was enough to tell me what he is all about.

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6 minutes ago, wallysmommy said:

You don't even want to look at Lincoln Clay's FB page.  The cover picture was enough to tell me what he is all about.

and now I have to  :D

 

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Scarier still is that our friend Lincoln has an ISD (intermediate school district) listed as an employer. ?

 

Edited to add: Apparently i stands for independent in this case. Sorry, my midwest location calls them itermediate.

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John Steele posted this:  "one of the certain marks of low intelligence: Responding to a general statement as if it applied personally. 'women on average are shorter than men' 'EXCUSE me, I am a TALL WOMAN'. Once you see it, it's everywhere"-Stephan Molyneux. This was in reply to a woman who called B.S.  on this very general statement he made: " Look at any relationship where the wife wears the pants... Everybody is miserable." That wasn't even the nature of her reply. Well John, I must say its a mark of low intelligence to make a statement that has nothing to do with healthy, normal relationships and or cannot be proven. I mean any marriage will be miserable when one person takes the reigns and dictates everything, including if its the husband leading. If both people aren't communicating or hearing the other its a recipe for disaster. 

What I've noticed is that they take people who have unhealthy relationships, struggle with mental illness, or can't handle stress and use it as evidence that they're right. But it's not, because they ignore all those individuals who have healthy, thriving relations and those who have a good balance in their lives. Some people can't handle stress, some people have mental health issues, and some people have poor relationships for whatever reasons. Those people need help, not to be made fun of and called whores. These people who complain about their working mom's, I wonder if they ever thought that maybe they struggled with depression or trauma that impaired their ability to function as a parent. 

Also, I believe Lori boosted another post and most of the comments are making fun of it. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go be an idle woman and idk gossip or something. 

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6 hours ago, Pink Muffin said:

This brothers me.
So the women who were mentored by Lori told they were being abused, but of course they weren´t because they were not physically abused or asked to do evil. I hope those women found someone else to mentor them, someone who knows that abuse can manifest in so many ways, not just physically. If her mentoring was anything like her "ministry" is now, it was bad, really bad. And it´s good thing that Lori does not mentor one-on-one longer, I bet my money on that she got too lazy to do that. And the pastor´s at their church(es) said she has to stop. And in the end no one wanted her to mentor.

Well, Lori Alexander lies. She knows firsthand that I was physically abused, choked around the neck, in fact.  My first email to her as her "mentored" "disciple" included this information. (This was years ago, right after ALCR began).

She did not "mentor" me, however - she instead handed off my email containing the facts about the choking to TJFW, who told me to leave and separate immediately for my own safety and that of my children.

Lori has told so many versions of the story that I am not sure she remembers which one is the truth right now.

Lori has forwarded emails to a ministry which will remain unnamed for confidentiality reasons.  These women are truly abused. I've had to call police in at least one instance and report, because the sweet, brainwashed and financially dependent dear wives wouldn't dare. They are riddled with fear.  They have been abused spiritually, which is really just as bad or worse than physically.

I'm so angry right now my hands are shaking as I type.

Lori Alexander has NO BUSINESS preaching or teaching.  Neither does Ken.

Both of them need to meet the real Jesus.

Then they need to immediately shut down that blog and start using their platform with almost 90K people to preach The Gospel.  Or get off the interwebz. Period.

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1 hour ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

she must have had friends in high school as she was on the homecoming court

Pictures or it didn't happen.

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6 hours ago, Pink Muffin said:
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Lies. All lies. For years you mentored women one on one, REFUSING to mentor the ones who were TRULY ABUSED, but passing them off to TJFW to advise, because you KNEW you had no business teaching or advising these women.  You did it to ME.  If you did it to me, you've done it to others.

And the moment anyone of us disagreed with you publicly or privately in your little Social Club Chat Crap Room, you blocked and banned and called us liars.

You are not a Christian. You bear no fruit of being a Christian.

You bear the fruit of the Law.

Your heartless Pharisee is showing.

You wouldn't know God's command if God Himself stood on your doorstep and told you.

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@ladyicantxplain I’m so sad for what you-and as you said, likely many others- experienced though Lori Alexander’s mentoring. It’s awful. 

I agree that she boosted the post. All it has done is serve as an opportunity for people to mock God. But she doesn’t care- she’s eating up all the attention from her fanboys who can’t get/keep a partner. Talk about rotten fruit. 

DH and I have been married 20 years. He’s not my authority and I’m not his. Somehow we have made life decisions together- as a team. There haven’t been major conflicts and I think that’s because we spent time getting to know one another before we were married. We dated a year and then were engaged for a little over a year. 

Our family of four (I’m including our kids here as well as I think they are of age) sets our family goals and we talk about where we are or if we’ve gone off course. That’s not the job of just one person. 

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11 hours ago, Sarah92 said:

John Steele posted this:  "one of the certain marks of low intelligence: Responding to a general statement as if it applied personally. 'women on average are shorter than men' 'EXCUSE me, I am a TALL WOMAN'. Once you see it, it's everywhere"-Stephan Molyneux. This was in reply to a woman who called B.S.  on this very general statement he made: " Look at any relationship where the wife wears the pants... Everybody is miserable." (snip)

Not against you, just jumping off.

Actually, in my experience, it is the mark of intelligence to question commonplaces. Questioning a general statement that everyone else seems to hold true shows that one can think outside the box. Challenging accepted thinking is what makes humans both great and sometimes terrible. If no one had ever thought "hang on a minute, instead of hunting mammoths, we could just cultivate cattle", we'd still be running around with spears come dinner-time.

While this is a gross simplification, the fact is that someone had a bright idea that went against convention. Dr Semmelweis had the revolutionary idea that washing one's hands might protect women from contracting puerperal fever - a leading cause of death for new mothers in the 19th century. It went against convention in hospitals at the time, but it made all the difference. He questioned standard procedure and a generally accepted state of affairs, and as a result we are all better off!

As for the assertion that people are miserable in a relationship in which the wife wears the trousers? That doesn't even make sense. It imposes binary gender roles on LGBTQ couples. Plus, it assumes that someone has to be in power. Egalitarian relationships don't happen in his world?

But okay, I'll play. My deeply Catholic grandfather always used to say that you can happily live under someone's thumb. You just have to find the right thumb. :) And then he and gran always giggled like teenagers, because they were in love. And that is what I don't see in Lori's marriage. And in the fundie-approved model of marriage. Where's the innovative thinking? Where's the love? Where's the moment, when you just go "eff it all" and go out to bat for your family, no matter what?

When it comes to power, there's only one thing everyone wants to hear: "I love you, no matter what."

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13 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

Pictures or it didn't happen.

She did post a pic of her and some other girls all dressed up like it could have been homecoming when she wrote that.

Lori wasn't bad looking back it the day, so it's possible she made the homecoming court.  

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15 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

believe she has a bossy and bad attitude (then and now), but she must have had friends in high school as she was on the homecoming court. Friendless people don't do that. 

You went to a nicer high school that I did.  At mine there was always 'the one' or even better, 'the one couple who weren't a couple but both outcasts' picked to do what we called 'walk' that people choose only to laugh at and make fun of them.  I was the lucky recipient one year.   People thought it was hilarious to be cruel to the very unpopular.   That probably wasn't Lori though.  I think she honed her mean through years of practice.   

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