Lori Alexander: 63: Teacher of Foolishness

[smittykins]

I noticed that in her response to a mom who wants to stay home but can’t afford to, Lori suggests watching a few more children during the day to earn extra money.  Umm, wouldn’t that enable their mother to work an unGodly job outside the home?

[teachergirl]

Yes, the hypocrisy of THAT argument drives me nuts. Plus it degrades the millions of caregivers who have degrees, training, CP/First Aid, have to write lesson plans, etc. It really falls into the "anyone can take care of children" mentality that has led to low wages for those who take of our youngest children. Rant over. I hate Lori.

[smittykins]

Not to mention the different state requirements for a home daycare license.

[ViolaSebastian]

1 hour ago, Liza said:

I wonder if Lori & Ken paid for their sons' college education?   This whole debt thing is confusing.  For Lori, this debt problem seems to only apply to women but debt affects the whole family. 

Also, many parents pay for/or help pay for college.  Then there are things like scholarships awarded for high performance and for people who cannot afford to go.  For those living in large cities, kids can go and live at home (at least the first two years) and there are public colleges/4 years.  There are also companies that help pay for your education as does the military.  I also believe that loans are often long term loans.  Actually, I think it may be even more important for women to get a 4 year degree than men because they do not go to trade schools as often.  Correct me here if I am wrong.

   It seems to me that for Lori, it is all about the privilege she was born into and then married into.  She does not, or will not (more likely), see that beyond holding women back, she is also promoting downward mobility (the opposite of what she has lived) AND, this downward mobility, in turn, affects, the children of the young parents today who decide before their children are even born, that college is not in the cards.  She has made it a "sin" to want to learn.  Perhaps, it is the fear that their 'evil' education will take them away from God.  I think it more likely that they may question what they were taught using critical thinking skills, but that is good.  A faith that cannot stand up to question and reason is a house built on cards.  

@cara   You mentioned that one of Lori's daughters studied sociology in college.  Which one?  I thought that neither of them went to college.

I’m not cara, but Cassi went to college—three different times. Biola, a community college, and then “the local university,” but there is more than one university in San Diego, so I can’t say which one. 

[Free Jana Duggar]

How to deal with a difficult mother or mother in law?  Gee, I don't know, Lori. How do your daughters and daughters in law deal with you?

And did you see Lacy trashing her DIL publicly in the comments? What a gem she must be 

I don't know what kind of person the DIL is, but I was taught, "What Susie says about Sally says a lot more about Susie than it does about Sally."

[ViolaSebastian]

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Just like with our husbands we need to learn to accept love as it comes. 

Fuck. That. Noise. I (and every other human being) have the right to set boundaries and have reasonable expectations for the people that we let into our lives, regardless of the biological or legal connection we have to that person. It took me 31 years to realize that if someone is hurting me, she can show herself out the door. And from what I see on a day-to-day basis, this is still a lesson that young women, in particular, are struggling to grasp. 

[Loveday]

Apparently, I'm a 'fading older woman.' 

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These fading older women have not come to terms with their lost youth and beauty. They cannot accept that their best days are long behind them. Many waited too long to have children and chose unGodly men. This is why women need to start their families while they are young and seek out a proper Christian husband. Avoid the fantasy that your sexual desirability will last much past your fertility. They are closely intertwined.

This is from a female reader. I wonder how she's going to feel when she starts to 'fade.'

[Frog99]

2 hours ago, teachergirl said:

Yes, the hypocrisy of THAT argument drives me nuts. Plus it degrades the millions of caregivers who have degrees, training, CP/First Aid, have to write lesson plans, etc. It really falls into the "anyone can take care of children" mentality that has led to low wages for those who take of our youngest children. Rant over. I hate Lori.

I had the same thought. And my in home childcare provider did more than watch kids. She provided a structured environment that fostered a love of learning- circle time, arts and crafts, outside play time, etc. She had a large variety of developmentally appropriate toys and books. She was an active participant in their day. She went through training to become a provider and had to participate in ongoing training to maintain her licensure. She was subject to home visits to inspect, etc. And, she had a heart for what she did. She had a commitment to serving children and their families, and it showed in the care she provided for my children. 

54 minutes ago, Free Jana Duggar said:

How to deal with a difficult mother or mother in law?  Gee, I don't know, Lori. How do your daughters and daughters in law deal with you?

And did you see Lacy trashing her DIL publicly in the comments? What a gem she must be 

I don't know what kind of person the DIL is, but I was taught, "What Susie says about Sally says a lot more about Susie than it does about Sally."

I saw that and was horrified. To be so hateful and disparaging on a public page says a lot about what kind of MIL she is. I would keep my distance too. 

[Frog99]

Lacy is called on her disparaging words: 

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But, alas, she wants to keep it all out there. Anyone else hoping that DIL shows up? 

Spoiler

 

[mango_fandango]

Wow, what a bitch Lori is. 

[Hane]

1 hour ago, Loveday said:

Apparently, I'm a 'fading older woman.' 

This is from a female reader. I wonder how she's going to feel when she starts to 'fade.'

Hey, she’s skinny, so that makes Ken still consider her fuckworthy.

[SuperNova]

The comments section of Lori's posts are always entertaining, especially given that she vets every single one. The pseudo-intellectual giant Montesquieu offers up this gem as proof that no one really needs college:

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Lincoln’s 4 basic free habits, which anyone can use to get anything they wish in life were:
1) Never watched television (average American watches 9 years)
2) Never used psychotropic drugs. (70 million Americans are on psychotropic drugs)
3) Never viewed pornography (70% of all online clicks are for porn, according to TIME magazine)
4) Read voraciously of the Bible, the classics, and history. (Knowledge of the Bible, Classics, and history are at all time lows in America currently)

Alia tentande via est
A New Way Must be tried.

Lincoln's secret to success is that never watched T.V. or viewed online porn. From what damp, cheeto and axe body spray smelling basement did this man crawl? The Latin phrase at the end really cinches it for me.

[delphinium65]

9 minutes ago, SuperNova said:

Lincoln's secret to success is that never watched T.V. or viewed online porn.

So before the invention of TV or the internet everyone was successful.  Got it.  Good to know Lori agrees with that assessment.  

[smittykins]

And before the invention of psychotropic drugs, “crazy” people were locked up in asylums.

[Lgirlrocks]

texhnically anything can ruin a marriage. God says anything goes in the marriage bed if both parties agree it is okay. You could say that the Bible says not to lust and watching porn could make you lust. 

Im not married but living in sin. My bf watches porn every once in a while and it doesn’t bother me. If I didn’t ask if he did it I would never know. If you have a problem with your partner watching porn ask before you start dating. 

The thing Lori is missing is all forms of addiction are wrong. Once again Lori is teaching things that aren’t what she is called to teach and misses the mark. 

[cara]

5 hours ago, smittykins said:

I noticed that in her response to a mom who wants to stay home but can’t afford to, Lori suggests watching a few more children during the day to earn extra money.  Umm, wouldn’t that enable their mother to work an unGodly job outside the home?

Yes! On one hand she says that outsourced childcare is wrong, that children need to be with their mothers 24/7 and then tells women to do it for living? Does she listen to herself?? ? 

Lori is very quiet about the New Zealand attack. I suppose that's because she doesn't concern herself with trivial global matters. Also, because a lot of her followers are staunch white supremacists and she knows it. 

[klein_roeschen]

6 hours ago, smittykins said:

I noticed that in her response to a mom who wants to stay home but can’t afford to, Lori suggests watching a few more children during the day to earn extra money.  Umm, wouldn’t that enable their mother to work an unGodly job outside the home?

But these are evil working jezebel mothers and therefore a lost cause. But their children aren't. That way they stay for most of the day with a good christian woman, who can set an example on biblical womanhood and saves the poor children from a live of being a heathen. Or so I think.

[OyHiOh]

3 hours ago, Loveday said:

Apparently, I'm a 'fading older woman.' 

This is from a female reader. I wonder how she's going to feel when she starts to 'fade.'

Who else is tempted to bombard that thread with photos of beautiful older women?  My vote is for Marin Mazzie . . . 

[ViolaSebastian]

If I found out that my child's daycare caregiver was a Lorite, I would yank my child out of that house so fast her would spin. A time would come where hypothetical child would need to be disciplined while in care--and it sure as shit wouldn't be something of which I'd approve. If there were a "raisen incident," the police would get involved.

[Liza]

On 3/16/2019 at 12:46 PM, ViolaSebastian said:

f I found out that my child's daycare caregiver was a Lorite, I would yank my child out of that house so fast her would spin. A time would come where hypothetical child would need to be disciplined while in care--and it sure as shit wouldn't be something of which I'd approve. If there were a "raisen incident," the police would get involved.

And, yet, her own children who were the victims of her abuse ... and if they dont remember it, they surely have seen all across the media ... can't miss the number of sites that have brought this up ... her own kids let her babysit their kids.  This means that they are okay with it.   

I read where the Michael/Debbie Pearl clan (To Train Up a Child) ... the horrific book that people tried to get removed from the shelves unsucessfully ... their kids support that book and their parents.  I saw this really stupid video of them all acting like it was no big deal.  The kids/now grown support their parents in this?  It is related to the deaths of at least three children and they support it?  wtf is wrong with them all.  Make me sick.  Lori recommends that child abuse manual and instructs her fan-girls to make it hurt, hit harder, pain is a great teacher.  Make me sick to my stomach.   I dont bellieve in Hell but there will be some sort of payment that thee sick individuals will have to make.  They think they are Godly.  I dont see anything Godly in beating children, submitting to men like you are some sort of garbage ... I never have and never will buy into that kind of insanity.  These people are not Christians ... they have cult views, they are controlling, evil and dont give a damn about life.  Pro life only before that life gets here.  Once the kids are born, they treat them like s***.  The girls really get the short end of the stick.  It sucks.  

[SongRed7]

I’m waiting for Lori to comment on the Lori Loughlin scandal. I know she thinks women going to college anyways is the worst ever, but she also commented at one point that she enjoyed watching Lori Loughlin  on various Hallmark programs. She said she seems like a “very wholesome and nice person.”  

[ColeJo]

I think all physical punishment does is instill fear. At least that was the case with me. I was a child who acted out and had a lot of meltdowns (I didn't find out I was autistic until age 20), so I got a lot of spankings from my dad's hard calloused hands. All the good that it did was make my dad unapproachable when I was struggling during middle school. There is a difference between authoritarian and authoritative parenting.

ETA: Once the spankings stopped, there were emotional scars. However, my dad is able to recognize that it wasn't as effective. My parents were taught how to effectively discipline a child, so they fell back on what they knew. Hopefully, the cycle won't continue.

[lilwriter85]

8 hours ago, Liza said:

I wonder if Lori & Ken paid for their sons' college education?   This whole debt thing is confusing.  For Lori, this debt problem seems to only apply to women but debt affects the whole family. 

Also, many parents pay for/or help pay for college.  Then there are things like scholarships awarded for high performance and for people who cannot afford to go.  For those living in large cities, kids can go and live at home (at least the first two years) and there are public colleges/4 years.  There are also companies that help pay for your education as does the military.  I also believe that loans are often long term loans.  Actually, I think it may be even more important for women to get a 4 year degree than men because they do not go to trade schools as often.  Correct me here if I am wrong.

   It seems to me that for Lori, it is all about the privilege she was born into and then married into.  She does not, or will not (more likely), see that beyond holding women back, she is also promoting downward mobility (the opposite of what she has lived) AND, this downward mobility, in turn, affects, the children of the young parents today who decide before their children are even born, that college is not in the cards.  She has made it a "sin" to want to learn.  Perhaps, it is the fear that their 'evil' education will take them away from God.  I think it more likely that they may question what they were taught using critical thinking skills, but that is good.  A faith that cannot stand up to question and reason is a house built on cards.  

@cara   You mentioned that one of Lori's daughters studied sociology in college.  Which one?  I thought that neither of them went to college.

 I can't recall Lori ever discussing whether they paid the sons' college education expenses. But, back during the Always Learning years, she mentioned her daughter Cassi leaving BIOLA because Ken didn't want to continue paying the tuition. Cassi left and attended a junior college and a public four year school. The sons also attended and graduated from BIOLA. My guess is they paid for the sons and by the time Cassi was there Ken had enough of the high tuition and expenses.  I'm also guessing the orthodontist son took out loans for dental school. 

In the past, Lori ignored people's comments about scholarships and other aid programs. I remember her once deleting a comment from a woman whose daughter was attending a public college on scholarships. 

[Lgirlrocks]

31 minutes ago, ColeJo said:

I think all physical punishment does is instill fear. At least that was the case with me. I was a child who acted out and had a lot of meltdowns (I didn't find out I was autistic until age 20), so I got a lot of spankings from my dad's hard calloused hands. All the good that it did was make my dad unapproachable when I was struggling during middle school. There is a difference between authoritarian and authoritative parenting.

ETA: Once the spankings stopped, there were emotional scars. However, my dad is able to recognize that it wasn't as effective. My parents were taught how to effectively discipline a child, so they fell back on what they knew. Hopefully, the cycle won't continue.

I’m sorry you had to go through that. My best friend was abused by her dad. He broke belts “spanking” her. He always though she was lying about things. In middle school a boy who asked her out and was turned down said he was going to bring a gun and shoot her. I told her dad about it because she didn’t want to. I later found out she was beat for it. He was embarrised that he found out about it from someone else. All physical pain does is make us fearful. Knowing I could get spanked never kept me from not doing things. I was more afraid of disappointing someone from my actions. 

[SilverBeach]

Somebody should tell Mr. SB that I've faded and he shouldn't sexually desire me because I'm past menopause and no longer fertile. After he got through laughing his ass off, he would check that person real good and let them know that he never wanted me to be just and incubator and that he finds me beautiful and sexy as hell. To be a woman in Lori Alexander's cult with the noxious beliefs about what that means, is horrible. I bet Kenny doesn't even want his ten minutes and lube anymore.