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1 hour ago, mango_fandango said:

dickhead behaviour of the first degree. 

That describes everything about Stevehovah to a T

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6 hours ago, treemom said:

We trust god with our pre-existing conditions = we have Medicare 

It's also "We have three adult daughters at home to provide daily care when it's needed. We also have all our adult, married, sons within a 1 mile radius and since they're wage earners, they will obviously pick up the financial slack that may come from an illness the lord chooses to allow into our perfect home". 

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6 hours ago, Lisafer said:

@Alisamer Steve and Teri may be counting on their kids to help them in their old age, but what happens when Steve can no longer bathe and toilet himself? Are his virginal daughters going to be able to cope with wiping his ass and seeing his penis? I know he talks about his balls all the time, but actually having to put Desitin on there before helping him pull up his Depends is a whole new level.

I couldn't agree more, but that has to be one of the most revolting images ever!

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On 1/20/2019 at 8:14 PM, dripcurl said:

quite the little obituarian bitch

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a candidate for a new post count title!

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Someone mentioned on the Chelsy and John thread that they never showed a Christmas tree even though Chels grew up having one. I hope they had one, but just didn’t picture it to appease Teri and Stevie, just like she deleted the pic of herself wearing pants while riding a horse. 

Wonder if Nate n’ Mel have a Christmas tree, or Joe n’ Elissa? I kind of doubt Pris n’ NR Anna have one. Why is it the Maxwells don’t have a tree? Many fundies do; Duggars, Bates, Rodrigues...

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8 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

ill toss this out there … if Teri goes first Steve is remarried within a year.

But only if he can find someone to put up with his bullshit...

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19 minutes ago, Markie said:

Someone mentioned on the Chelsy and John thread that they never showed a Christmas tree even though Chels grew up having one. I hope they had one, but just didn’t picture it to appease Teri and Stevie, just like she deleted the pic of herself wearing pants while riding a horse. 

Wonder if Nate n’ Mel have a Christmas tree, or Joe n’ Elissa? I kind of doubt Pris n’ NR Anna have one. Why is it the Maxwells don’t have a tree? Many fundies do; Duggars, Bates, Rodrigues...

I didn’t have one this year because I was working a lot and my fiancé was as well and by the time we thought about it, we said to each other “we don’t have kids, it’s too much work at this point” Chelsy is pregnant and they traveled a lot during the holidays so it may just be that. 

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24 minutes ago, Markie said:

Why is it the Maxwells don’t have a tree?

Because the origin of Christmas trees is pagan

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13 minutes ago, courtlylove said:

Because the origin of Christmas trees is pagan

And it could bring pleasure. Can’t have that. Decorating it takes time, they would have to try and change their schedule for it. It could be f*n decorating it. Can’t have that. 

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20 minutes ago, courtlylove said:

Because the origin of Christmas trees is pagan

So is gift-giving at Yuletide. To be consistent they shouldn't do that either...

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10 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Wow, what a terrible birthday post. Man, I wish Sarah would wake up one day and wonder "what if..." and just - do what she wants.

How about change their Internet password to something unmentionable (like "PlannedParenthoodRocks!"), demand fair compensation for the work she has done over the years in exchange for the password and no future tell-all, then hit the road with Ellie?

I know, I'm dreaming.

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I wondered about the tree. Maybe it was simply that they did a massive amount of traveling and wouldn’t be home enough to justify putting one up. She  definitely strikes me as one who would have a tree if she wanted it.

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Regarding Steve & Teri, their pre existing conditions, and scamaratin.. I spent some time this afternoon looking at their website and they will accept bills for pre existing condition if the isssues are considered cured if you go 12 months with no treatment and no symptoms 

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Alternatively you can have a pre existing condition but not be getting treatment for it for 5 years 

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So either they are saying their conditions have been stable without treatment for 5 years, are considered “cured” or they are banking on not having any future medical issues due to their pre existing conditions (“god will take care of it”) and are paying for their meds and doctor visits out of pocket.  They probably also now have Medicare (like a previous poster suggested) which will now cover those pesky pre existing conditions.  Scamaratin does require bills first be sent to Medicare if you have it before being sent to scamaratin.

it seems the main objection to conventional insurance is that they cover abortions and contraceptives.  I did see that some people choose to accept their employer provided dental and vision coverage because scamaratin doesn’t cover any of that.  What gets me is that this “insurance” is really only for people who have little to no medical needs.  For someone like me who takes very expensive medications every month, uses very expensive medical equipment and can have frequent hospitalizations it just won’t work.  They only cover a 1 time supply of 120 days of prescriptions.  

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They also don’t cover therapies for developmental issues.  We don’t know if the family with the baby born with Microcephaly in the J-Rod thread has scamaratin but if so, none of his needed therapies will be covered at all:

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And for all of the negatives with scamaratin this one upsets me the most.  They would rather a mother risk her life with a diagnosed ectopic pregnancy as she must wait until the tube is ruptured before getting any treatment other than tests if she wants any of those bills covered (and FFS calling an embryo a “child”):

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And if it isn’t in the tube but it is still “alive” somewhere else in your body?  You are SOL as long as the embryo has a hearbeat as you are not allowed to terminate for any reason whatsoever.

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2 hours ago, Lisafer said:

But only if he can find someone to put up with his bullshit...

Some women will settle for anything with a pulse and a dick.

(In the old days, we used to say “any mammal with a day job,” but the pickings are increasingly slim.)

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19 minutes ago, Hane said:

Some women will settle for anything with a pulse and a dick.

(In the old days, we used to say “any mammal with a day job,” but the pickings are increasingly slim.)

I thank G-d and my departed parents daily that they insisted I get an education leading to my own day job. The pickings can become so slim as to disappear when they turn sideways and it won’t make me a moment’s difference. 

And I’m not snarking by omission on sisters who haven’t been as fortunate as myself and need the economic support. Also not snarking on those who enjoy guy companionship. Just very grateful those parts of my history are history. 

Should Steve precede Teri in going to where he knows he’s going, I wonder if PSarah and her sisters - or at least a couple of them - will have increased chances of marrying. Their brothers would likely be relieved at the lessened responsibility and their SILs could attend to whatever support Teri needed. And I doubt Teri would be as strict about requirements as Steve is.

It would also be intriguing to see how she herself might change without the lord of her life there 24/7 to micromanage her. 

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Omfg! Ectopic pregnancies are DANGEROUS if they rupture. They are the LEADING cause of DEATH for a woman in the first trimester. 

 

(As in pregnancy-related death, obviously.) No idea how often it happens, but it would NOT be something I’d wanna risk. I cannot BELIEVE these fuckers value the life of an embryo (IT IS NOT A FUCKING CHILD) over the life of a woman. Fuck Scamaritan.

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30 minutes ago, mango_fandango said:

I cannot BELIEVE these fuckers value the life of an embryo (IT IS NOT A FUCKING CHILD) over the life of a woman.

They may not care for either if the woman happens to need more than a 120-day prescription for a chronic condition.  Sounds more pro-death than pro-life to me.

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2 hours ago, Dandruff said:

They may not care for either if the woman happens to need more than a 120-day prescription for a chronic condition.  Sounds more pro-death than pro-life to me.

I wouldn't describe anything that refuses to fund therapies for disabled children as"pro-life" exactly. I am also a bit surprised at them requiring bills to be submitted to Medicare first - surely ideologically they should be running away from the evil, government funded socialist healthcare and covering it all themselves?

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7 hours ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

ill toss this out there … if Teri goes first Steve is remarried within a year.

While his daughters stay unmarried and he has 4 females to take care of him!

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3 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

I wouldn't describe anything that refuses to fund therapies for disabled children as"pro-life"

As the mother of a profoundly disabled child, THIS. 
 

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@keepercjr thanks for the scamaritan synopsis! I have several mental illness diagnoses. Obviously they wouldn't be paying for my medication! And the ectopic thing is such shit. An ectopic pregnancy should be treated immediately. It's a life-threatening emergency. 

@MamaJunebug I have little doubt that the Maxwell women's lives would change dramatically if Steve passed away before Teri. I think their chance of marriage would improve as well. (I am not wishing death on him, to be clear, but it is inevitable that he will die at some point!)

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As I read the posts about Samaritan I wonder how/if their views (about lots) might have shifted if Susannah had lived, but required years of complex care.  Or if one of their family members had an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured and threatened their life or fertility.  Right now their theology works because very little in their highly structured, sheltered, and controlled lives threatens it.  

I am the mother of a very disabled child - think wheelchair, non-verbal, feeding-tube, seizures, and so on.  He is one of three children and during the early years of his life it was all I could do to keep my head above water.  Managing his 24-hour care while also mothering two typically developing kids was overwhelming - even with good support.  What I cannot imagine is going on to have 4-5 (or more) kids after my high-needs kid. The care would be unsustainable.  I suppose the answer is that Sarah, or one of the other girls who will never have their own kids,  would have moved in and provided full-time care.

Expecting women to bear children whose care they cannot sustain without massive supports and for whom Samaritan will not support is the epitome of anti-life.  Or, more to the point and as is often the case with "pro-lifers", what it means is that only some lives matter - poor, disabled, non (my kind of) -Christian, and so on are irrelevant.......  The theological and intellectual gymnastics required to make sense of this thinking are truly impressive.  

I know, I know....stating the obvious.  But I needed to vent.  These attitudes are very triggering!

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16 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

I can totally understand Teri finding three young children difficult, anyone would, even without depression. So what does Steve do? Tell Teri to homeschool, reverses his vasectomy, and gives Teri five MORE children. That is dickhead behaviour of the first degree. 

Going back a little in the thread but I find Teri and Steve incredibly hypocritical. It seems like the 7 year vasectomy gap between Sarah and Joseph really helped Teri get her head out of the water. It's during that time that she came up with coping mechanisms for her depression: exercice, personal time (ok-Bible time), better diet, and a routine. Those things are not Maxwell-invented, they're scientifically proven to help with mood. Their godly schedule is just another word for routine, which can help people with depression accomplish day-to-day tasks. When I struggled with postpartum, my therapist told me to make a list of daily goals including showering and eating breakfast. 

I think by the time she had Joseph, she was in a very different place mentally. Not to mention she had 3 much older children to help with chores and babysitting.

Instead of promoting quiverfull, they should totally be promoting contraception! Their testimony should be "How a 7-year vasectomy saved my marriage and made me a better mother". 

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