Trump 38: Donald Trump and the Wall of Lies

[smittykins]

Not sure if this is the right spot, but...

Yesterday, I saw a political ad saying “Call this number and press “1” if you agree with President Trump’s immigration policy.  End chain migration!  End the visa lottery!  BUILD THE WALL!”

[AmazonGrace]

Spanky gets things wrong: 

 

[CTRLZero]

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Yesterday, I saw a political ad saying “Call this number and press “1” if you agree with President Trump’s immigration policy.  End chain migration [now that Melania's parents have arrived]!

Trump has benefited from immigration in so many ways.  I always think about adding the above whenever I see the "end chain migration" phrase.

[AmazonGrace]

 

Why is Trump in scare quotes? 

 

[onekidanddone]

34 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

Why is Trump in scare quotes? 

 

Right just like the Democrats didn't win back the House on all the "achievements" of Trump.

God I hate that man.

[fraurosena]

24 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

Why is Trump in scare quotes? 

 

The Shutdown in only because of the 2020 Presidential Election.

• Uhm, I thought you shut down government because you want funding for that stupid boarder wall?

The Democrats know they can't win based on all of the achievements

• a]. The Dems just had a blue tsunami win in the midterms. b]. Which achievements? The taxcut for the rich? Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court? I don't think the American public agrees with that, see a].

of "Trump"

• AKA Melania?

they are going all out on the desperately needed Wall and Border Security

• I don't think you know what going all out means.

For them, strictly politics.

• Well, duh. They're politicians. It's what they're supposed to do. Unlike petulant petty presidunces who shut down government in a tantrum because they're not getting what they want.

[47of74]

I heard Spanky McFornicateFace was doing things with GoT posters now.

Ugh.

My personal response to Spanky is as follows;

[fraurosena]

 It's a bigly debt, yuge even, and anything bigly and yuge is good in his mind. The presidunce must be so proud of this achievement!

 

[fraurosena]

Wishful thinking? Or could there be some truth in this? I'm in two minds on this. On the one hand, if he thinks he would get away scot(t) free, he just might do this. On the other hand, he seems so delusional about his own success that it looks like he would never let go of the presiduncy and he will certainly attempt to run for a second term.

What do you guys think?

Donald Trump Will Resign The Presidency in 2019 in Exchange For Immunity For Him And His Family, Former Bush Adviser Says

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Alan J. Steinberg—who served as an adviser to former President George W. Bush—wrote in an opinion piece published this week that he didn't believe President Donald Trump would be removed from office through impeachment.

Steinberg, a former Environmental Protection Agency regional administrator, said that he believed Trump would resign in 2019 in exchange for immunity. 

"Trump will not be removed from office by the constitutional impeachment and removal process," Steinberg wrote in The Star-Ledger. "Instead, the self-professed supreme dealmaker will use his presidency as a bargaining chip with federal and state authorities in 2019, agreeing to leave office in exchange for the relevant authorities not pursuing criminal charges against him, his children or the Trump Organization."

Steinberg noted in the piece that should the House of Representatives impeach Trump, 20 Republican senators would have to break with the president to remove him from office—and that seems very unlikely. Steinberg wrote that the many legal challenges facing Trump—the investigation from special counsel Robert Mueller, the probe from the Southern District of New York as well as inquiries from the attorney general of New York and the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office—could lead him to leave the White House, especially as authorities close in on his family. 

Steinberg wrote for The Star-Ledger:

"Aside from all the legal nightmares facing Trump and his presidency, it appears virtually impossible for Trump to be reelected in 2020. The economy appears headed for a severe recession, as evidenced by the recent plunge in the stock market, which appears on pace for its worst December since the Great Depression.

There are only two years left in Trump’s presidential term. With his approval ratings in an abysmal state, and the forthcoming recession making it near impossible for Trump to stage a political recovery, it appears most likely that he will use the continuation of his presidency as a bargaining chip."

Steinberg is far from the only person who believes Trump will be out of office before his first term is up. 

Former Republican Representative John LeBoutillier wrote that it seemed increasingly clear that Trump's presidency was going fully off the rails. Making predictions for The Hill, he wrote: "1. Donald J. Trump’s presidency will not survive 2019; 2. The downward trajectory of every aspect of his tenure indicates we are headed for a spectacular political crash-and-burn—and fairly soon; 3. His increasingly erratic and angry behavior, his self-imposed isolation, his inability and refusal to listen to smart advisers that he hired, all are leading him to a precipice." 

The new year has begun with Trump fighting over his long-promised wall along the southern border of the United States. The president sparked a partial government shutdown when he refused to sign a spending bill that didn't include funding for the wall, and it's unclear when that shutdown might end. 

"The Democrats, much as I suspected, have allocated no money for a new Wall," Trump tweeted this week. "So imaginative! The problem is, without a Wall there can be no real Border Security - and our Country must finally have a Strong and Secure Southern Border!" 

Trump, meanwhile, aside from his dedicated based, remains largely unpopular, with his average approval rating at 41.4 percent on Wednesday morning, according to the tracker from data-focused website FiveThirtyEight. 

 

[Alisamer]

I wonder if that's even an option... if it gets to the point where there's enough clear evidence to charge him or his family with crimes, can he hold the presidency hostage like that? "Give me immunity and I'll resign!" That's kind of crappy, if it is possible. If they committed crimes, they should properly pay for them.

I think that sounds like something his kids and advisors may try to encourage him to do, but I'm not sure Trump's ego would allow him to do something like that. He's clearly delusional, and a rational trade like that seems beyond him. 

[AmazonGrace]

Spanky did a press briefing just now to steal Pelosi's thunder

 

[onekidanddone]

8 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

Spanky did a press briefing just now to steal Pelosi's thunder

 

That isn't a wall, it is a fence. For such a SUCCESSFUL developer he sure is stupid.  Bigly.

[fraurosena]

Because of course he had to try and steal the spotlight...

 

[Dandruff]

2 hours ago, fraurosena said:

What do you guys think?

Donald Trump Will Resign The Presidency in 2019 in Exchange For Immunity For Him And His Family, Former Bush Adviser Says

This wouldn't surprise me, though I suspect he might only be able to negotiate for his family.  Reason would be to make sure his businesses are taken of while he's...away.

[CTRLZero]

Just a slice of local life:   We went to a pub to shoot some pool.  About a dozen furloughed federal employees gathered at a nearby table.  "Happy Furlough Day!" they yelled in greeting to their fellow friends in shutdown mode.  We eavesdropped just a little.  There was a lot of speculation and questions about what was going on in Congress and the White House response.  These people did not seem very pleased to be off work, despite the camaraderie in the pub.  Based on some comments, I'm guessing these employees will not be lining up to reelect Trump in 2020.

I'm flying soon.  I hope the TSA employees who are currently working under postponed pay conditions are as cheery as always. 

[JenniferJuniper]

4 hours ago, fraurosena said:

Wishful thinking? Or could there be some truth in this? I'm in two minds on this. On the one hand, if he thinks he would get away scot(t) free, he just might do this. On the other hand, he seems so delusional about his own success that it looks like he would never let go of the presiduncy and he will certainly attempt to run for a second term.

What do you guys think?

No.

I don't know who this guy is but a) Trump and his criminal spawn don't deserve the courtesy and b) time is not on this monster's side.  The 2020 election, hard though it is to believe, is next year.  If the stock market continues to tank and we head into a recession, a sufficient number of Republicans in the Senate (concerned only for their own political futures) will likely turn on and him convict him once he is impeached, removing him from office.  

Then he should be fed to the prosecuting dogs, Ramsay Bolton-style. 

[The limit does not exist]

5 hours ago, fraurosena said:

What do you guys think?

Donald Trump Will Resign The Presidency in 2019 in Exchange For Immunity For Him And His Family, Former Bush Adviser Says

 

I don't know think he could resign and get immunity from everything.

Even IF (and it seems like a big IF) he is able to get a deal for immunity from federal crimes, he could still be charged by individual states. It's the same issue he has with pardons.

[AnywhereButHere]

It does seem a really big if. Leaving his ginormous ego aside (I can see him getting nervous in his twittershits, but I think he still believes he’s untouchable), like @The limit does not exist said, it would be hard to see individual state courts letting go of their charges. I certainly can’t see the SDNY letting him walk away. 

I don’t know if I’d want it to be an option. Is it better for the country if he is able to just walk away and fade into obscurity, or is it better for him (and by extension the whole country) to be put through the chaos of a trial and punished for his shit. 

I want to see him held accountable, and I do feel that it wills be best for all in the long run, but god am I tired of the drama. 

[JenniferJuniper]

12 minutes ago, AnywhereButHere said:

It does seem a really big if. Leaving his ginormous ego aside (I can see him getting nervous in his twittershits, but I think he still believes he’s untouchable), like @The limit does not exist said, it would be hard to see individual state courts letting go of their charges. I certainly can’t see the SDNY letting him walk away. 

 

SDNY is a federal jurisdiction, although the brand new attorney general of New York state today promised to investigate his finances.  I'm not aware of pending charges in any state courts.  But I'm sure there have been state level crimes as well.  How could there not be?

[AnywhereButHere]

@JenniferJuniper Thanks for the correction! Although that’s one slim thread of hope cut now...  come on, states! 

[Dandruff]

1 hour ago, AnywhereButHere said:

I don’t know if I’d want it to be an option. Is it better for the country if he is able to just walk away and fade into obscurity, or is it better for him (and by extension the whole country) to be put through the chaos of a trial and punished for his shit.

I doubt he'd fade away into obscurity.  I'd expect him to walk away and gloat.

[Gobsmacked]

1 hour ago, Dandruff said:

I doubt he'd fade away into obscurity.  I'd expect him to walk away and gloat.

Hopefully he would just explode into a glutinous orange blob of many parts and drift far away into space. Far far away........

[fraurosena]

Remember a couple of months ago, when there was an FBI raid on the office of Ed Burke? Well, this former Trump lawyer has now been charged with attempted extortion.

  

[onekidanddone]

9 hours ago, AnywhereButHere said:

I don’t know if I’d want it to be an option. Is it better for the country if he is able to just walk away and fade into obscurity, or is it better for him (and by extension the whole country) to be put through the chaos of a trial and punished for his shit. 

That would be the ultimate punishment him

[AmazonGrace]

It is scared https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1081177511592108032?s=19