Gwen Shamblin 5: She is a shit writer!

[thoughtful]

Curiosity led me to google "politely full." I did find some other people besides Gwen using it. I have no idea where it originated, though.

 

[RemnantSurvivor]

On 2/2/2019 at 1:56 PM, SilverBeach said:

We know this isn't true. I wonder if any non-food focused, non-eating disordered folks attend Remnant. How boring it must be for them if there are any.

Yes, there are some. I was one of them. I will admit that I was borderline too thin but it was probably also arbitrary least partially due to the massive amounts of walking on my college campus I did. I rarely (almost never) drank diet drinks—I hated the after taste. I could put down a massive amount of food thanks to my fast metabolism and people always used to ask where I put it all since I was still thin. I’m still thin to this day. Oh also, my stomach almost never growled. I knew when I was hungry because of how I felt, not a physical rumbling of the stomach. 

 

For those that “don’t have weight to lose”, she would say to replace hunger/fullness with what you are struggling with. For example: “if you are struggling with hunger, pray for God to help you through the temptation” would be “if you are struggling with depression/anxiety, pray for God to help you through the temptation”. 

[RFfamANON]

22 hours ago, formergothardite said:

Children digest food much faster than adults and feel like playing right after a meal. However, when adults eat too much, they feel lethargic because so much blood and fluids rush to the stomach to digest the huge amount of food, taking the energy and blood away from the muscles.

I call BS!  Has Gwen not read any of the stats about kids NOT playing as much as generations past; That they spend more time on devices and less time on the playground.  Having spent a significant amount of time in third world countries treating malnutrition,  I can honestly say that how much kids play has nothing to do with the amount of food they have eaten. And starvation has real and lasting effects on them. It makes me furious that her followers are so isolated that they have become incapable of critical thinking. 

[formergothardite]

Living on diet coke and chips will apparently cure whatever ails you.  It would be one thing if she was actually teaching healthy eating habits but she isn't. You can follow her plan and exist on nothing but pure junk food and she claims that is fine. 

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Once you eat the small amounts the body is calling for, the pain and ulcers are eradicated. No more “baking soda medications” or other spastic colon medications are needed once you regularly and constantly eat and drink smaller amounts. It saves your body, your time, and your pocketbook. It is wrong to keep making the wrong choices.

Remember to make the list of your pains. Then make a list of how good you feel physically and spiritually when you do it right. Read this frequently. Keep it on your phone. Notice how it affects work, relationships, finances, time, joy, your outlook, and your children. If you will eat what the body calls for (ultimately what God programmed), you will not have all of these problems. You will have less heartburn, fewer ulcers, more energy, and a stronger connection to your Creator—thanking Him rather than blaming Him. You are taking the personal responsibility that you were made to take. You are becoming a new creation, and it is amazing

 

[Pianokeeper]

God programmed us to require Diet Coke?  Umm... I missed that chapter in the Bible, I guess. 

[Hane]

16 hours ago, Briefly said:

 

Gwen really has some screwed up thinking.  Where does she get the idea that children do not eat a lot?  They grow and they need fuel for that.  They have growth spurts at different times. 

A cousin was just telling me how her wiry little two-year-old regularly chows down two eggs, two waffles, fruit, and milk for breakfast, and eats far more than she does.

[ajknowsthings]

Has anyone encountered Exodus Chiropractic?  I read on the threads they have Exodus Construction and a dental company but nothing about chiro.  My friend had the creepiest encounter there and I have to say the name + reviews + family photo looks like a total fit for Remnant...

 

 

[SJWaterford]

2 hours ago, ajknowsthings said:

Has anyone encountered Exodus Chiropractic?  I read on the threads they have Exodus Construction and a dental company but nothing about chiro.  My friend had the creepiest encounter there and I have to say the name + reviews + family photo looks like a total fit for Remnant...

 

 

It doesn't appear to be connected. They actually seem to have a heart for a charity(Mathew 10) that doesn't fit Remnant at all. Doesn't mean your friend didn't have a creepy encounter, and the almost 100 percent positive reviews does throw up that red (Remnant unduly influenced) flag. Maybe someone should warn them about their business name possibly being associated with Brentwood's own hometown cult. 

[RFfree]

2 hours ago, ajknowsthings said:

Has anyone encountered Exodus Chiropractic?  I read on the threads they have Exodus Construction and a dental company but nothing about chiro.  My friend had the creepiest encounter there and I have to say the name + reviews + family photo looks like a total fit for Remnant...

 

 

I was curious so I looked him up on facebook and searched his 1500+ friends for remnant names and found none. Probably just a coincidence, i also found other branches of exodus chiro. One interesting thing i saw was a highlight of a review on google and somebody was talking about how she loved taking her 4 and 1 year old for adjustments. Is that really a thing ?‍♀️

[RemnantSurvivor]

2 hours ago, ajknowsthings said:

Has anyone encountered Exodus Chiropractic?  I read on the threads they have Exodus Construction and a dental company but nothing about chiro.  My friend had the creepiest encounter there and I have to say the name + reviews + family photo looks like a total fit for Remnant...

 

 

The name definitely screams remnant but after poking around on their website, I don’t think this is remnant related. I think it’s just a coincidence.  

[RFsurvivor]

I remember Gwen not supporting members going to chiropractors. I think there was even a member who was one and quit practicing after joining RF

[RemnantSurvivor]

12 minutes ago, RFsurvivor said:

I remember Gwen not supporting members going to chiropractors. I think there was even a member who was one and quit practicing after joining RF

Yep! There was! Although I do think there was one later on that was “allowed” to continue practicing later on. 

[throwaway9988]

2 hours ago, RFsurvivor said:

I remember Gwen not supporting members going to chiropractors. I think there was even a member who was one and quit practicing after joining RF

Yes, and although I am also not impressed with Chiropractic or other forms of alternative medicine, why someone would join a church which prohibited them from practicing their career, recommended other members against supporting their career, and condemned them to living with small children in their in-laws' basement was and still is beyond me. 

Gwen pretends to be evidence-based in her recommendations to members because it is part of her whole narrative about telling people the capital-T-Truth, but I also remember there was a Wednesday evening event right before my friends' wedding when their non-Remnant family members were all present due to being in town already for the wedding, and Gwen started rambling about how dinosaurs are a hoax and all the scientists are clearly wrong.  When you are a Remnant member you learn to ignore stuff like that because otherwise the cognitive dissonance builds up and other people start to notice, but I was surprised she didn't at least try to tone down the craziness for when the non-Remnant family members were visiting.  Maybe too many years of no one ever fact-checking her to her face had already caught up with her.   

To anyone not drinking the Kool-Aid, it's obvious that a rando with an outdated dietician degree is not right at the expense of thousands of scientists currently studying within their own field of research being wrong...and if Gwen is up there on stage pretending the obviously-wrong things she just said are Truth from God's Prophet, then she's wrong about a lot of other things she says are Truth.  Sadly, most Remnant members are just too far gone to even go down that train of thought; they are carefully brainwashed into thinking that any thought that is critical in any way of Gwen or Leadership is actually "spiritual warfare" with "Satan putting thoughts into their head" and that "entertaining those thoughts" is a sin that will send them to Hell, and thus they must pray those thoughts away.  ??

2 hours ago, RemnantSurvivor said:

Yep! There was! Although I do think there was one later on that was “allowed” to continue practicing later on. 

Hmm.  Sounds a bit like how no one was allowed to initiate divorce unless a crime occurred or their spouse was literally oppressing their First Amendment right to worship, but then Tarzan came along and suddenly now someone was allowed to initiate a divorce ? 

P.S. I see I am a "bathroom baby" today; I think that is one of my favorites.

[formergothardite]

Today's message is head hunger, or greed. Of course being greedy like Gwen is okay. Material wealth greed is fine just as long as you starve yourself. 

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Once you begin to wait for true physiological hunger, you discover that there is another feeling of hunger. It is your own “I am not hungry, but I want it anyway” will. We will call this head hunger, sensual desires, or greed. This desire is beyond what the Heavenly Father wants for you, and it is a fixation on a sensation of “it tastes good.” Many drives can feed this behavior over the years. It seems to fill up time and end boredom. It is the learned habit that popcorn must go with a movie—even if you are not hungry.

The more we control when we eat, what we feed ourselves, and please our own desires, the stronger the desire eating is. The reverse is also true… the more we wait on God, look to God, please God— the less we will please ourselves, and the head hunger will die! But for most who thought they needed to diet, desire eating has grown so over the years that it might even have turned into a ravenous, head- strong, willful, and self-loving monster. It feels like a magnetic force to the refrigerator that controls you rather than you controlling 

Do you think Gwen has told members not to read here? I remember when Recovering Grace started Gothard told people not to read there and said he wished he could find a way to block the site from all IBLP members. I could see Gwen, after the disaster of her sending members to try and convince us she isn't running a cult, attempting to prevent people from reading FJ. 

Oh, and Tarzan was there for Gwen's Monday morning live video again. Does he have a job or is RF his job now? 

[thoughtful]

1 hour ago, formergothardite said:

head hunger

Sounds zombie-related.

[RFsurvivor]

3 hours ago, formergothardite said:

Do you think Gwen has told members not to read here? I remember when Recovering Grace started Gothard told people not to read there and said he wished he could find a way to block the site from all IBLP members. I could see Gwen, after the disaster of her sending members to try and convince us she isn't running a cult, attempting to prevent people from reading FJ.

I am almost certain she has told members to not come here. The general rule is don’t research Remnant online because Satan has control of the world and there are lies online. RF members are also told to avoid sites with “lies about the truth” to avoid traffic to the sites which will likely make Google have those results show sooner. 

 

I even remember being told, if you get bored and want to help “the kingdom” to go run RF videos in the background to help them get more views and to google remnant and other key words and only select links from RF to make them higher results over time....

[Fashion Forward]

This is the first I've seen either of the Shamblin children in photos posted on social media in a long time.

[formergothardite]

9 minutes ago, RFsurvivor said:

only select links from RF to make them higher results over time....

Oh, we might need to do some goggle tactics on Gwen like we did with Doug the Tool 

[JermajestyDuggar]

The stark contrast between the weight of Gwen’s children must strike so many of the people in the congregation. Elizabeth is underweight while Michael is overweight. I am overweight and I absolutely do not connect “sin” or anything of the sort with weight. I have been overweight much of my life. It doesn’t make me a bad person or sinful. However I know these people do think this. So does it strike them as odd that Gwen’s own children are not within the weight norm of their congregation? It must! Yes, Elizabeth is thin and thin is good in RF. But they have to see that she is underweight to the point of possible ill health. While her brother is overweight. If Gwen’s own children can’t maintain a healthy BMI, why are they listening to her?! I honestly think her children’s weights are largely due to her complete mind fuck she has put them through and they would likely have much more average weights if she had never raised them the way she did. I think there are a lot of factors that impact our weight (genetics, regular exercise, access to healthy food, education, SES). But I think one of the biggest factors for Elizabeth and Michael is Gwen.

[formergothardite]

How can people in that church look at Elizabeth shrink each week and not get red flags? 

[fransalley]

3 hours ago, RFsurvivor said:

I am almost certain she has told members to not come here. The general rule is don’t research Remnant online because Satan has control of the world and there are lies online. RF members are also told to avoid sites with “lies about the truth” to avoid traffic to the sites which will likely make Google have those results show sooner. 

 

I even remember being told, if you get bored and want to help “the kingdom” to go run RF videos in the background to help them get more views and to google remnant and other key words and only select links from RF to make them higher results over time....

What's the criteria of a cult called where information to the members is restricted?  Because in the group I was in, if we read negative publicity about them, we were told it was "persecution" or from "disgruntled members".  Later, after I left the group, I heard the term "spiritual pornography" applied to anything negative said or published about the group, and that people in the group shouldn't read it.

[AmazonGrace]

...food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

1 Corinthians 8:8

[Blessings of the Corn]

On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 11:33 AM, SuperNova said:

How is everything cheaper for the rest of my life? You can't order half of an entree when you eat at a restaurant. Advising people to pay full price for a meal and give the other half to a family member is not cost effective in any way. 

No one in RF is eating anyway! And how long do a starve myself before eating out? A day? Two days? What do I do if a friend spontaneously invites me to lunch? 

 

How does this work if you're having dinner in someone's home? If someone is kind enough to invite you to their home and share their table with you, it would be quite rude to push away half of your food like a spoiled child.

Gwen is staggeringly disconnected from the average person. This is not weight loss advice! It's decadent wastefulness. 

Not to mention insanely harmful! Being thin is not the end all be all in life! I wish it wasn't even an issues. If people (woman specifically) weren't told to hate our bodies from birth we would probably have less health/weight issues. Ugh. I have been on a track to lose weight and work out for almost two years now, and I have learned more than anything that weight does not depict health nor should it matter as much as it does. I lost it for health, and I feel 100% better, but I loved myself enough to start in the first place, and I certainly do not starve myself. I HATE her tips and devotionals. They are part of the problem in our society.

Love yourself. You are worth it. You are allowed to take up space. You are allowed to be fat or thin. You are allowed to enjoy food with NO apologies. You deserve love and attention.

 If you have emotional eating issues then see a real therapist. Please don't listen to this evil woman (Gwen). Ugh. She bothers me so much.

[RemnantSurvivor]

3 hours ago, fransalley said:

What's the criteria of a cult called where information to the members is restricted?  Because in the group I was in, if we read negative publicity about them, we were told it was "persecution" or from "disgruntled members".  Later, after I left the group, I heard the term "spiritual pornography" applied to anything negative said or published about the group, and that people in the group shouldn't read it.

For RF it’s definitely called spiritual “persecution”. Anything and everything that goes against Gwen is called persecution or “testing”—depending on who, what, etc. 

[SilverBeach]

On 2/3/2019 at 8:42 PM, thoughtful said:

Curiosity led me to google "politely full." I did find some other people besides Gwen using it. I have no idea where it originated, though.

 

I still don't understand what it means though. I know that eating politely means not eating overly quickly with food falling out of your mouth, but politely full? One the food is in my stomach, what does it matter? Just an odd phrase to me. Maybe they mean slightly full. I'm a stickler for appropriate word usage.

2 minutes ago, SilverBeach said:

 

 

8 minutes ago, RemnantSurvivor said:

For RF it’s definitely called spiritual “persecution”. Anything and everything that goes against Gwen is called persecution or “testing”—depending on who, what, etc. 

That's mind control 101, limiting and controlling what members can read. I will never understand how criticism is equal to persecution. Because it's not.