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2020: The Two Year Long Election


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7 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

It's going to be a healthcare election again 

What does this actually mean? Is the ACA gone with this ruling? What level of panic should I get to over this? 

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Just now, mamallama said:

Before panicking check out your state laws.  Some states enacted laws very similar to the ACA.

I'm in NC long controlled by the GOP who hate the ACA. 

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The goal is to create a single, seamless organization that moves quickly, saves resources, and — perhaps most crucially — minimizes staff overlap and the kind of infighting that marked the 2016 relationship between the Trump campaign and the party. While a splintered field of Democrats fight for the nomination, Republicans expect to gain an organizational advantage.

I'm worried this might just work. 

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2 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

 

See this is what I'm afraid of. Bit by bit taking away voting rights so Trump and then his spawn  can be in office for ever.

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The Democrats are working on updating the rules for primary debates for 2020. The delightfully snarky Alexandra Petri's take: "Suggested rules for the Democratic primary debates"

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I read the phrase “Democrats will hold at least a dozen presidential primary debates starting in June 2019 and running through April 2020,” and a little something in me died. I think it might have been hope. I did not know that the thing was there until it gave a horrible shriek and ceased to move. I understand that this pales in comparison to the, I want to say, 800 (?) — it might have been 753 — debates of the previous cycle, but it is still an awful lot.

As I understand them, the debates (and, indeed, the primary process in general) are supposed to start as early as possible so that, where previously you thought there were many potentially acceptable or even exciting candidates for the highest office in the land, you might at your leisure discover exactly why they are all vile, problematic boils.

I am glad the Democratic National Committee is committed to this understanding of the process. I can’t wait to discover specific, detailed reasons to loathe every possible contender! So I, for one, am relieved there will be at least 12 debates, with not too many participants, chosen at random so as not to create the perception of a kids' table.

I managed to get a glimpse of the planned debate themes. They are as follows:

Debate 1: The candidates will be forced to play “unpopular opinion” and state one opinion they think will alienate everyone else there. If even one other person agrees, they must continue to play until no one does.

Debate 2: Everyone must be photographed from a weird angle trying to eat corn on the cob. No questions will be asked.

Debate 3: A pop-up debate will be live-streamed from the headquarters of BuzzFeed or Between Two Ferns to show that the candidates are in touch with millennial culture. Everyone in this debate will come away looking terrific!

Debate 4: The candidates stride through a cornfield wearing button-down shirts to show that they understand the Trump Voter. Every question will be asked by a man at a gas station with a mug of hot coffee and some very strong opinions about manufacturing. Everyone in this debate will come away looking kind of meh.

Debate 5: The fifth debate will be invisible. You will turn on your TV and there will be nothing. But when you go to Twitter, everyone will be responding as usual, and you will have to piece the events of the fifth debate together from context clues. The Twitter battles will be bitter and devastating.

Debate 6: The sixth debate will be bad luck. A Thing Without a Name will be released and will haunt all the participants, preventing them from leaving the early primary states. Still, they will actually manage to debate the stated subject, alarming everyone.

Debate 7: The survivors of the sixth debate will attempt to subdue the Thing Without a Name. They will succeed, but at what cost? This debate was supposed to be about domestic policy.

Debate 8: By the eighth debate, no candidate will have slept in more than a month. They will all be forced to fight a gerrymander. They will not win.

Debate 9: The ninth debate will just be incoherent screaming for three hours, and at the end of it, one candidate will have entirely melted.

Debate 10: The candidates will all nap, but on CNN, everyone will agree that some of them napped much more convincingly than others and that this is when this starts to matter.

Debate 11: By the 11th debate, your favorite candidate will have entirely transformed into a hated, Gollum-like figure whose name it pains you to utter, whose hideous, bloodshot eyes and lizard snout give them a tactical if not a strategic advantage over the remaining two contenders, who have shed their pleasing skins and revealed themselves to be a courageous but foolhardy toaster and a malevolent sock puppet. You will hate everything and everyone. No one will win, although only one will survive.

Debate 12: The 12th debate will consist entirely of an hour of announcing eight more debates.

 

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I'm so conflicted. I love Elizabeth Warren, and think she could do a great job. However, I don't think she can win in the general election. We really need a young maverick to defeat Dumpy. Her whole misstep with the DNA test really upset me.

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Agreed. Like if she did win the primary I would of course campaign for her but she is low on my list for 2020. Plus the whole "yes the primary was rigged" in 2016 was a slap in the face to the African American and educated White women who did so much work during the primary. 

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I really am afraid she wouldn't be able to beat Trump. Do I think she would do a good job as president? Yes. But to go up against Trump there needs to be a newer person, who doesn't have baggage like the whole DNA test thing and who will inspire tons of voters. We need another version of Obama. 

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Already seeing some, "is Elizabeth Warren too unlikable" takes that remind me a lot of Hillary 2016. Anyway here is a novel concept: an interview in which she gets to talk about issues.

 

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There are rumors that Harris is running and I suppose it's encouraging that most of the replies here are a variation of HELL YEAH 

 

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