Jump to content
IGNORED

Finnish-Australian Vegan Doomsday Cult Family of 12


PlentyOfJesusFishInTheSea

Recommended Posts

They do seem a bit TOO perfect.  One thing bothered me in the video where they were making gingerbread houses, one of the littles reached for the candy that was meant to be used for decorating and the mom fussed at him, saying that to take it would be stealing. "Stealing?" Weird way to put that, I thought.

  • Upvote 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Glasgowghirl said:

I have watched some parenting vlogs on YouTube, a lot of them have good organisation tips, but her videos are just strange to me. No family is that perfect and usually the ones that try and present themselves that way are the ones that have something to hide.

She is absolutely cultivating an image, not portraying life. 

Everything about her creeps me out. I don't care about being vegan or even the obviously work she's had done to her face. I am bothered by her obvious ying, omissions, carefully scripted "life" for the videos. There is totally something going on with her; she has an agenda is meticulously getting it "out there". The number of viewers reached by suggestion, all within a few days; the videos being posted now portraying wheat they did 4 and more months ago. The complete lack of indication of where they get their money, how they support all those kids - people are not obligated to say where they work, but generally, there are clues and comments that indicate employment..."going to work", "just came home from work", etc...

Everything just seems completely off when you get past the alternative lifestyle that is window dressing. 

  • Upvote 5
  • I Agree 3
  • Love 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

56 minutes ago, fundiefan said:

She is absolutely cultivating an image, not portraying life. 

Everything about her creeps me out. I don't care about being vegan or even the obviously work she's had done to her face. I am bothered by her obvious ying, omissions, carefully scripted "life" for the videos. There is totally something going on with her; she has an agenda is meticulously getting it "out there". The number of viewers reached by suggestion, all within a few days; the videos being posted now portraying wheat they did 4 and more months ago. The complete lack of indication of where they get their money, how they support all those kids - people are not obligated to say where they work, but generally, there are clues and comments that indicate employment..."going to work", "just came home from work", etc...

Everything just seems completely off when you get past the alternative lifestyle that is window dressing. 

 

Yes, something is definitely off with them. No mention of him working or how the fund themselves is suspicious. No way benefits, even for a family that size, stretches enough to pay for a house like that, even in a country with a great welfare system like Finland. The fact her mother in law heads a cult is even more worrying.

She kept the younger kids on formula longer than they needed to be, this wasn't the case of a child still getting a bottle at night for comfort. She mentioned giving them formula during the day, unless their is a medical reason, children that are 3 or 4 do not still need formula.

  • Upvote 2
  • I Agree 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just read my post - one up there ^^^^ - sorry it is illegible. I honestly don't know what I was doing or how I failed to type proper words. I wasn't even using my tablet, which always makes me look like an idiot. 

Edited by fundiefan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Recent observations:
In a recent family video, she said they go on the cruise two or three times a year. This time, it was meant to be for Jenna's 18th/hen night but most of the focus seemed to be on Cleopatra (Cleopatra do this/that, karaoke, etc). They changed rooms because 'they didn't like the colours so they went and complained and got better rooms' (I think there was mention of booking certain rooms, but that wasn't clear. The colour thing might have been a joke?).
Jenna seems very quiet, though a lot of that is likely due to english being her second language. She's very passive, but again, will give her a pass due to english being her second language/different customs I'm not aware of.
The oldest boy now claims to be 'partly vegan' while Jenna quietly disagrees in the background, so I'm curious there. He'll eat meat when it's there but he prefers vegan food (which personally I kind of understand because I try to eat plantbased except for special occasions). He removes the centre of mushrooms to make them cheaper in the shop (I didn't know that was a thing? Am I weird for eating the stalks??).
 

I'm wondering how much of this is for Cleopatra and her music career, and for Leonardo and Jenna's modeling aspirations. Youtube opens doors, after all (for some). If you gain enough followers through youtube, people will notice and pay attention, possibly getting careers out of it. Could do a 'Family Von Trapp' thing too, with that many musical kids. Thoughts?

Sorry for the long post, I've had the vlogs playing in the background haha

  • Upvote 3
  • I Agree 3
  • Love 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Taina has a wannabe 'Kardashian family'  vibe going on (IMO). Not necessarily selling her daughters sex tapes!!! ( hope there aren't any) but to sell herself as glamourised ( totally controlling) older mother with heaps of kids who will look very good in TV ads etc. The older kids appear to have some musical talent also. Good for well known talent shows to pick up on. 

She is after a TV slot in which to sell her kids for the highest price possible. IMO. 

  • Upvote 12
  • I Agree 2
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 hours ago, Glasgowghirl said:

I have watched some parenting vlogs on YouTube, a lot of them have good organisation tips, but her videos are just strange to me. No family is that perfect and usually the ones that try and present themselves that way are the ones that have something to hide.

Another weird point goes to them not having pictures on the walls. Photos of the kids. I mean, with such a big prole, you would think pictures would abound. Hell, the Nauglers take pictures of everything they touch (except thank god, the shit buckets). Taina's house looks like:

a) a porn movie set (not that I would ever watch adult content, of course not, what who said something?)

b) a "model home" where nobody lives

 

it's just way too clean for having so many children. Something is just not right. 

  • Upvote 4
  • Haha 2
  • I Agree 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I hate saying this but I did get the same vibe from this family as I did watching clips of the Willis family. Even to the point one of their kid's was on a talent show, I definitely think Taina wants her own show and she is definitely too strict with her family.

  • Upvote 1
  • Sad 1
  • I Agree 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello there!

I stumbled upon you lot in my quest to try & find out what the deal was with this family (the parents especially!)

I rarely go on Youtube, but when I do, it's for hot male actors, not parenting blogs. Then the 'morning routine' with this family was being suggested to me (17th), & for some weird reason I started watching it (Whoa, that kid nearly went over that gate, what's with the nappy changing conveyor belt routine etc etc!) For some reason I can't not watch all the vids, though some of them are so 'nothing'... & I don't really like kids (& I couldn't eat a whole one).

All I can surmise is that Mommy is angling for a TV reality show (strange the vids aren't being monetised yet!) She really needs to get her skates on if that is the case as Octopus (or whatever the youngest one is called) isn't going to be baby cute for much longer. Though they could go the way of the Royal family & have 10 kids & a spare...

Doesn't the mother ever smile???? 

I remembered, it's Omega isn't it?

Leonardo, Jerusalem, Cleopatra, Shakespeare, Aphrodite, Omega, King-James, Nefertiti, D’Artagnan, and Romeo.png

  • Upvote 13
  • Love 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Welcome to Free Jinger!

1 hour ago, Snowberry said:

I remembered, it's Omega isn't it?

Yes, but I prefer Octopus. ;)

 

  • Upvote 6
  • Haha 9
  • I Agree 2
  • Love 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, bea said:
Something about Leonardo is so off-putting.
Maybe it’s the pouty photos on his Instagram.

I know! While I watch all of the Taina’s videos (what’s wrong with me), I cannot bring myself to watch Leonardo’s channel, even out of curiosity, so off putting he is. The cringe there is way over what I can safely tolerate.

Edited by Coconut Flan
Removed tapatalk signature.
  • I Agree 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 hours ago, seattlechic said:

Another weird point goes to them not having pictures on the walls. Photos of the kids. I mean, with such a big prole, you would think pictures would abound. Hell, the Nauglers take pictures of everything they touch (except thank god, the shit buckets). Taina's house looks like:

a) a porn movie set (not that I would ever watch adult content, of course not, what who said something?)

b) a "model home" where nobody lives

 

it's just way too clean for having so many children. Something is just not right. 

If she is in fact a minimalist with OCD, then the house doesn’t surprise me at all. Minimalism is a real thing and it can be good for large families. But if she also has untreated OCD, that can be exacerbating the minimalism. She has “joked” about OCD on her videos but I think there’s some truth to it. Her kids have obviously picked up some of her compulsions. All the other kids threw their shoes on the ground and went to play while her kids lined theirs up perfectly. 

  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

All the black and white!  I would die :gay-rainbow: :banana-rainbow:.  Even Omega's toys (a chew toy and a mobile) are black and white. What happened to stimulating kids with bright colors?  I find it odd in her crunchy lifestyle that she doesn’t tandem nurse the second or even the 3 littlest ones.  I am sad about the blanket training... damn fundies.  

I would be a sad panda if I had to wake up that early, but some people are like that.  My MIL wakes up between 3-5 every morning, it is the way she is wired.  She dose all her chores and cooking before going to work at 8.  I could never do this, but she dose get to ‘chill’ after work because everything is done.  I can see the merit in that. 

  • Upvote 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I didnt watch much, its just too self promoting and smug for me. 

One of the things I noticed immediately is that she seems to like to tell us that she does one thing but the video shows something completely different. "The kids dont sleep with bottles but here they are sleeping with bottles" "I usually have three kids in my arms but here I am with two" "We normally use crunchy granola diapers but we got these for free" "I dont wear make up but here I am putting it on" 

The second thing I noticed is she seems to desperately want to be seen as young and cute and desirable. She wants to be one of her older daughters and shows us her sexy little bear suit in one video and her teeny shorts in another.

Good on her, the kids seem mostly normal if normal is  two children who got married before they were old enough to drink i guess...

Edited by Berta McGee
  • Upvote 11
  • Love 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The mother definetely gives me crazy vibes, but i dont find the oldest son that weird to be honest.

I think he just lacks charisma to be succesfull on youtube, and find him (and his wife) extremely boring. If i didnt knew about his weird family i would just asume they are another young couple trying to become influencers making videos rambling about their lives without having anything interesting to say.

 

  • Upvote 2
  • Love 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/28/2018 at 10:28 PM, seattlechic said:

Another weird point goes to them not having pictures on the walls. Photos of the kids. I mean, with such a big prole, you would think pictures would abound. Hell, the Nauglers take pictures of everything they touch (except thank god, the shit buckets). Taina's house looks like:

a) a porn movie set (not that I would ever watch adult content, of course not, what who said something?)

b) a "model home" where nobody lives

 

it's just way too clean for having so many children. Something is just not right. 

Ok I can’t remember if this got covered in this thread or elsewhere but the house is up for rent on a Finnish site somewhere, and I believe they’ve said that they’re borrowing it from a relative? It’s not even clear if they’re still living there.  

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Berta McGee said:

 

Good on her, the kids seem mostly normal if normal is  two children who got married before they were old enough to drink i guess...

If they got married in Finland you have to be 18 for both.

6 hours ago, Sisterlyparrot said:

Ok I can’t remember if this got covered in this thread or elsewhere but the house is up for rent on a Finnish site somewhere, and I believe they’ve said that they’re borrowing it from a relative? It’s not even clear if they’re still living there.  

IIRC it was a For Sale ad. (It's been taken off the site so the house was either sold or taken off the market)

  • Thank You 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, Berta McGee said:

didnt watch much, its just too self promoting and smug for me

^^That's how I felt about it, too. ^^ It had a very "look at me! I'm so perfect!" vibe to it. Whenever someone tries to present themselves as super-human, I get twitchy. It's like she needs everything she does in her life to end in an exclamation point. "All white! Ten kids! Up at 3am!" 

Like others have speculated, I think the videos and launch were orchestrated. There's just not enough real life happening there. 

  • Upvote 2
  • I Agree 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am all for keeping things mostly neutral but she takes it to the extreme the kids need some colour in lives. Everything was too organised for my liking.

  • Upvote 3
  • I Agree 1
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/29/2018 at 8:21 PM, Berta McGee said:

I didnt watch much, its just too self promoting and smug for me. 

One of the things I noticed immediately is that she seems to like to tell us that she does one thing but the video shows something completely different. "The kids dont sleep with bottles but here they are sleeping with bottles" "I usually have three kids in my arms but here I am with two" "We normally use crunchy granola diapers but we got these for free" "I dont wear make up but here I am putting it on" 

The second thing I noticed is she seems to desperately want to be seen as young and cute and desirable. She wants to be one of her older daughters and shows us her sexy little bear suit in one video and her teeny shorts in another.

Good on her, the kids seem mostly normal if normal is  two children who got married before they were old enough to drink i guess...

I have friends who do this kind of crap, just to portray an image. Talk a big game of all the things you do or have plans to do, but in reality their lives are very different. The fakeness of it all is so off putting. I like watching real people. Let me see the chaos of everyone trying to get dressed and out the door in the morning. Show me mom fussing at the kids because someone spilled juice on the white carpet. I need normalcy!

  • Upvote 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mom primps and poses for the camera a lot!  She does this so much it could rival the behavior of a 15-year-old. Who does that at 40? 

She does seem to truly care for and be bonded with her children. Given the fundies that I usually follow, I'm happy for that and that the kids appear to eat healthier food and modesty bullshit isn't in play. Mom lets them play and get dirty, etc. so their are some positives. 

There are just some subtle creepies that are OFF and I think previous commenters got it right! Mom has a huge ego and a plan to land a TV show contract.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.