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Klayman is a full-blown nutter, so this is going to get painfully stupid. :teasing-dunce:

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10 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

Klayman is a full-blown nutter, so this is going to get painfully stupid. :teasing-dunce:

Maybe... but what will Whitaker do with it? That's what's worrisome here. Is Whitaker going to use this criminal complaint, however stupid it may be, as an excuse to fire Mueller?

Remember, Corsi and the presidunce are tight. This might be a premeditated action.

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Things are unravelling fast. Expect an attempt to fire Mueller soon.

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The unravelling continues...

Papadopoulos’s Russia Ties Continue to Intrigue the FBI

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George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his interactions with a Russia-linked professor in 2016, went to jail on Monday after fighting, and failing, to delay the start of his two-week prison sentence. But a letter now being investigated by the House Intelligence Committee and the FBI indicates that Papadopoulos is still in the crosshairs of investigators probing a potential conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The letter, dated November 19 and obtained last week by The Atlantic, was sent to Democratic Representative Adam Schiff’s office by an individual who claims to have been close to Papadopoulos in late 2016 and early 2017. The letter was brought to the attention of Schiff and House Intelligence Committee staff, according to an aide who requested anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. The letter was also obtained by federal authorities, who are taking its claims “very seriously,” said two U.S. officials who also requested anonymity due to the sensitivities of the probe.

The statement makes a series of explosive but uncorroborated claims about Papadopoulos’s alleged coordination with Russians in the weeks following Trump’s election in November 2016, including that Papadopoulos said he was “doing a business deal with Russians which would result in large financial gains for himself and Mr. Trump.” The confidant—whose name The Atlantic is withholding at their request but whose identity is known to congressional and federal investigators—said they were willing to take a polygraph test “to prove that I am being truthful” and had come forward now after seeing Papadopoulos “become increasingly hostile towards those who are investigating him and his associates.”  A lawyer for Papadopoulos declined to comment.

If corroborated, the claims in the letter would add to an emerging portrait of Trump and his associates’ eagerness to strike backdoor deals with Russia even after the intelligence community concluded that Moscow had interfered in the 2016 election. (Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, tried to set up a “backchannel” to Russia in the weeks after the election and met with the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank during the transition period. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, meanwhile, negotiated with the Russian ambassador about U.S. sanctions before Trump was inaugurated.)

Much of the attention in recent days has been focused on former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and what the campaign knew about WikiLeaks’ plans to release stolen Democratic emails. But Papadopoulos remains one of the most important figures in the Russia investigation. He was ostensibly the first member of the Trump campaign to learn that the Russians had stolen emails that they planned to use against Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. Rather than tell the FBI about the Russian “dirt” on Clinton, Papadopoulos continued trying to facilitate a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin as the campaign wore on. His disclosure to an Australian diplomat in May 2016 that Russia had dirt on Clinton is purportedly what triggered the FBI’s Russia investigation—Australian officials reported the comment to American law enforcement authorities in July 2016, after WikiLeaks released the stolen DNC emails.

Federal and congressional investigators are now examining the letter to determine whether Papadopoulos’s ties to Russia were deeper than he has acknowledged, and whether he stayed in Trump’s orbit because of, rather than in spite of, those connections. The confidant who sent the letter to Schiff’s office last week claimed to have witnessed a phone call between Papadopoulos and Trump in December 2016, around the same time that Papadopoulos was allegedly boasting about the Russia deal and sending emails to Flynn and Trump’s campaign CEO, Steve Bannon. In one email, Flynn urged Papadopoulos to “stay in touch, and, at some point, we should get together.” Trump has called Papadopoulos “a coffee boy” who played no meaningful role on the campaign.

Papadopoulos, who has denied having any financial ties to Russia, has claimed in recent weeks that his contact with a shadowy overseas professor named Joseph Mifsud was a set-up by Western intelligence agencies. Mifsud, who claimed to have high-level Kremlin contacts, told Papadopoulos in April 2016 that the Kremlin had dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails—well before the Russian hacks on the Democratic National Committee or Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta were made public. Papadopoulos told the FBI that he learned of the Kremlin “dirt” before joining the Trump campaign, but that was a lie, according to prosecutors. He had already been a campaign adviser for well over a month by the time Mifsud told him about the stolen emails.

Mifsud was also apparently eager to connect Papadopoulos with his current wife, Simona Mangiante. Mangiante told The Atlantic last month that she first heard about Papadopoulos and his work for the Trump campaign after starting a job at the London Centre of International Law Practice, where Mifsud was the “Director for International Strategic Development,” in September 2016. Mifsud and his associate Nagi Idris told Mangiante over lunch that Papadopoulos, who worked at the London Centre briefly in the spring of 2016, would be visiting London soon, and that if Mangiante met him, she should “make sure” she said she liked Trump—or not discuss politics at all. Mangiante insists, however, that Mifsud never directly introduced her to Papadopoulos, who she says she met on LinkedIn later that fall.

Mifsud may only be one part of the story of Papadopoulos’s connections to Russian nationals in 2016. According to the letter sent to Schiff last week, Papadopoulos revealed in late 2016 that “Greek Orthodox leaders” and their Russian counterparts were “playing an important role” in Papadopoulos’s collaboration with the Russians.

Papadopoulos’s contact with Greek officials in 2016 have been of some interest to those investigating a potential conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. In a September interview with CNN, Papadopoulos acknowledged for the first time that he told Greece’s foreign minister about the Russian “dirt” on Clinton in May 2016 while visiting the country on a trip authorized by the Trump campaign. Russian President Vladimir Putin was set to visit Greece the very next day, and the foreign minister “explained to me that where you are sitting right now, tomorrow Putin will be sitting there," Papadopoulos told CNN, claiming that his disclosure about the “dirt” was “a nervous reaction” that he just “blurted out.”

Throughout 2016, Papadopoulos made multiple trips to Greece and developed a working relationship with influential Greek officials while he was serving as a foreign policy advisor on the Trump campaign. In addition to the foreign minister Nikos Kotzias, Papadopoulos had meetings with the former President of Greece Prokopis Pavlopoulos and Ieronymos II, the Archbishop of Athens and All Greece. Papadopoulos’s closest association with the Greek government, however, appears to have been with Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos, an outspoken supporter of Moscow with whom Papadopoulos met several times in 2016 and early 2017, including at Trump’s inauguration. In his congratulatory tweet celebrating Trump’s election victory, Kammenos noted Papadopoulos’s importance in maintaining U.S.-Greek relations. A NATO military intelligence official told BuzzFeed News earlier this year that the Greek Ministry of Defense “is considered compromised by Russian intelligence.”

It remains to be seen whether Schiff, the incoming chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, will subpoena Papadopoulos to appear before the panel once the Democrats take control in January. Patrick Boland, a spokesman for Schiff,  told The Atlantic that, “at the appropriate time,” the congressman hopes to get “full answers on the range” of Papadopoulos’s “contacts with the Russians and their intermediaries.” Boland said that Schiff and his staff “evaluate all information brought to our attention, and remain concerned about the conduct that formed the basis of Mr. Papadopoulos’ guilty plea, as well as his subsequent and apparently contradictory statements.” Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to investigators about “the timing, extent, and nature of his relationships and interactions with certain foreign nationals whom he understood to have close connections with senior Russian government officials.”

Papadopoulos is not a stranger to the halls of Capitol Hill. He faced Congress for the first time in October, in a private hearing before the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees for which he eagerly volunteered following his sentencing one month prior. “I didn’t want to have to expose the biggest political scandal in modern history,” Papadopoulos tweeted ahead of his testimony. “I was happy living on the Greek islands. But, guess life works in mysterious ways and I am happy I was called.” Despite promoting his unqualified willingness to testify before Congress, however, Papadopoulos asked the Senate Intelligence Committee for immunity before agreeing to testify. While the Senate is unlikely to accommodate him, the request itself may signal an awareness on Papadopoulos’s part—or his lawyers’—that he still faces significant legal exposure.

Here's a copy of the letter in question:

 

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What's this about then? Seth Abramson is all in a tizzy about it...

I embiggened the photo as much as I could. It says:

Alderman
Edward M. Burke
Chairman
Committee on
Finance

After googling him, it turns out he's the longest serving alderman in Chicago. 

[...] Burke is the lead partner in a Chicago law firm, Klafter and Burke, that specializes in representing clients in property tax appeals before the Cook County Assessor's Office, the Cook County Board of Review, and in the courts. The firm was successful in several "significant legal challenges" to Illinois real estate law.

[...] Burke is also a licensed private detective in Illinois.

 

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6 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

What's this about then? Seth Abramson is all in a tizzy about it...

I don't know. The comments say it is a City Hall office. 

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2 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

I don't know. The comments say it is a City Hall office. 

Intriguing that he's chairman of the Committee on Finance... and well versed in property taxes.

There's a Trump Tower in Chicago, but don't the Kushner's also have real estate dealings there?

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Aha, so this is the connection. We were thinking in the right direction after all.

 

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This morning the presidunce called Cohen a liar, but..

Trump’s Recall of Moscow Deal Matches Cohen’s, President’s Lawyers Say

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President Trump’s recollection of discussions about building a Trump Tower in Moscow aligned with those of his longtime fixer Michael D. Cohen, the president’s lawyers said on Thursday after Mr. Cohen admitted in court that he had pursued the project as Mr. Trump secured the Republican nomination for president.

The president knew about the deal and discussed it with Mr. Cohen before it fell apart, Mr. Trump’s lawyers said. Mr. Trump detailed those conversations last week in written responses to investigators for the special counsel investigating Russia’s 2016 election interference, Robert S. Mueller III. Prosecutors had sought to question Mr. Trump for months and eventually agreed to accept written answers for some queries.

“The president said there was a proposal, it was discussed with Cohen, there was a nonbinding letter of intent and it didn’t go beyond that,” said one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, Rudolph W. Giuliani.

Mr. Cohen admitted in court on Thursday that he had lied to congressional investigators about the length of the negotiations over the Trump Tower Moscow project and the extent of Mr. Trump’s involvement. He said that he discussed the deal with Mr. Trump several times and that Mr. Cohen continued to work on a potential deal until at least June 2016, court documents showed — months later than Mr. Cohen had told Congress that the deal fell apart.

Mr. Giuliani said that Mr. Mueller’s office did not ask the president about the timing of his discussions with Mr. Cohen about the project.

The fact that Mr. Cohen’s admission in a deal with prosecutors came so soon after Mr. Trump returned his responses to Mr. Mueller’s questions raised concerns among the president’s legal team that Mr. Mueller was laying a perjury trap — waiting for the president to explain his understanding of events before presenting evidence to the contrary to show that he lied, according to people close to the president’s legal team.

Mr. Giuliani said that the president and the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for his family’s businesses, have been forthcoming with Mr. Mueller’s investigators for months about the deal. The company, he added, voluntarily provided investigators with documents related to the Moscow deal.

“We have provided them with every document about this from the beginning — that’s the only reason they know about it,” Mr. Giuliani said.

Mr. Giuliani declined to provide the wording of Mr. Mueller’s questions about the deal or Mr. Trump’s answers. Mr. Mueller’s investigators told Mr. Trump’s lawyers earlier this year that they had several questions for the president about the deal.

“What interaction and communication did you have with Michael Cohen, Felix Sater and others, including foreign nationals, regarding real estate developments in Russia during the period of the campaign?” the investigators wanted to ask the president, according to notes Mr. Trump’s lawyers took during a meeting with Mr. Mueller’s prosecutors.

Though his lawyers said his statements to Mr. Mueller lined up with Mr. Cohen’s, the president attacked Mr. Cohen’s credibility on Thursday. The president called Mr. Cohen “weak” and accused him of lying to investigators to reduce his prison sentence.

“So he’s lying very simply in order to get a reduced sentence, O.K.?” Mr. Trump said while leaving the White House for the Group of 20 meeting in Buenos Aires.

Mr. Giuliani sought to explain why Mr. Trump would attack Mr. Cohen even if they had the same understanding of the facts.

“He has so many different versions of the same stories, so by definition he is a liar and we can’t trust him,” Mr. Giuliani said of Mr. Cohen. “He has lied, so how can we believe him?”

He added: “Cohen has just told us he’s a liar. Given the fact that he’s a liar, I can’t tell you what he’s lying about.”

 

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I'm becoming more encouraged by the hour...but I won't be satisfied until I see Fuckface Von Clownstick being led out of the WH in cuffs.  

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On 11/28/2018 at 1:43 PM, Cartmann99 said:

Klayman is a full-blown nutter, so this is going to get painfully stupid. :teasing-dunce:

Does Corsi think that private citizens can just up and file criminal complaints? Admittedly I don't know just how that works on the federal level, but generally you can't. If I read the background right, it would take Whitaker taking Corsi seriously enough to bring a grand jury -- doesn't seem likely.

Elie Mystal is my favorite legal explainer. Here he is on recent events:

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/11/today-we-settle-all-mueller-family-business/

 

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LOL, are they really this stupid?

 

This ball of tangled Russian string is looonnngggg... but it's slowly and surely unravelling. 

 

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Haha, lalala! They are all going down. :happy-partydance:

Mueller Reportedly Looking at Ivanka Trump’s Involvement With Trump Tower Moscow

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Donald Trump Jr. is not the only Trump offspring who is reportedly being looked at by Special Counsel Robert Mueller in relation to the Trump Tower Moscow deal.

Ivanka Trump, who is also a White House Advisor, is also being eyed by the Special Counsel for her involvement in the real estate plan that never came to fruition.

The report comes from Yahoo on the same day as former Trump fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the proposed real estate deal in Moscow.

Yahoo reports:

Multiple sources have confirmed to Yahoo News that the president’s oldest daughter, Ivanka, who is now a top White House adviser, and his oldest son, Don Jr. were also working to make Trump Tower Moscow a reality. The sources said those efforts were independent of Cohen’s work on a project. One of the sources said Ivanka was also involved in Cohen’s efforts. And a separate source familiar with the investigation told Yahoo News that Mueller has asked questions about Ivanka and Don Jr.’s work on Trump Tower Moscow.

Earlier today, Buzzfeed also reported that there were plans to give Russian President Vladimir Putin a $50 million penthouse in the Moscow project. It is unclear if Trump knew about the proposed gift which, like the tower, never came to be.

Here's that Buzzfeed article referenced in the quote above:

Trump Org Reportedly Planned on Giving Putin a Posh $50 Million Penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow

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The Trump Organization reportedly planned on giving Russian President Vladimir Putin a posh $50 million penthouse in the planned Trump Tower Moscow.

Buzzfeed, which first reported on the news, cited four people as the source of the information, one of them the originator of the project.

Two of them were also described as “US law enforcement officials.” They told Buzzfeed this: “Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer at the time, discussed the idea with a representative of Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s press secretary.”

The latest Buzzfeed scoop raises further questions about President Donald Trump‘s relationship with Putin and the Kremlin. However, it is not entirely clear that Trump knew about the plan to give away the prime real estate to Putin personally, although Cohen has testified that he regularly kept Trump apprised of such things.

One thing that is known, though, is that the plan ultimately crumbled and Putin’s penthouse was never built much less gifted to the Russian president.

The news also comes on the same day as Trump’s former fixer Cohen testified in court that he was pursuing a business deal in Russia in June 2016,  after Trump had garnered the Republican nomination.

Trump said beginning in July 2016 that he had no business relations or deals with Russia.

 

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Trump associate Felix Sater tells @wsj that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have gotten a $50 million penthouse in a proposed development.

From Day 1, Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo was talking about how Felix Sater would figure prominently in some way in the  Russia shit-er-roo.  This guys skated on long-term prison stints for multi-million dollar financial scams by helping the Feds with his knowledge of Russian shenanigans.  Felix Sater may be Individual 2 in the Cohen deal.  Just google "Felix Sater" and a ton of stuff will pop up. 

Also, I noticed one of my favorite things.  When referring to criminal elements, newspapers use the term "associate" or "associates." That word shows up all over the place when you google "Felix Sater." 

Here's a good article from The Guardian from over a year ago with an excellent overview of Sater and his role in this investigation. 

Felix Sater: the enigmatic businessman at the heart of the Trump-Russia inquiry

 

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Trump is supposedly in a vile mood at the G 20.  

I just saw footage of Melania and Trump exiting a jet.  He reached out for her hand and they held hands the whole way down.  Maybe she's had to "comfort" him when he's in a narcissistic downward spiral, 'cause he's gettin' Muellered big time and Mueller is gettin' too close to Eric and Jr. 

Can't wait to see SNL; they are sure to have a hilarious Erick and Jr. skit. 

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Who says Mueller doesn't have a sense of timing?

To speed things up, maybe you should start sending the presidunce off on more international trips... :pb_lol:

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Poor Pavel, he's finding out the hard way you shouldn't mess with Mueller.

Mueller could hit Manafort with retrial, new charges

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Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is considering retrying former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on a slew of federal charges that resulted in a hung jury over the summer.

At a hearing in federal court Friday morning, prosecutors said they are also weighing leveling new criminal charges for Manafort, contending that he obstructed justice and committed additional federal crimes since entering a plea agreement with the special counsel in September.

“That determination has not been made,” said special counsel attorney Andrew Weissmann.

Weissmann's contention led Judge Amy Berman Jackson, a member of the U.S. District Court of Washington, D.C., to set a tentative March 5 sentencing date for Manafort.

Prosecutors will file a more detailed explanation of what they believe Manafort lied about to investigators on Dec. 7. Manafort’s defense team will then have until January to reply, leading to a likely late January hearing on the matter.

Manafort, who was already convicted on tax and bank fraud charges following an August trial on Virginia, appeared to be cooperating with Mueller to avoid a second trial on money laundering charges in Washington. But Mueller’s team said Monday that Manafort lied repeatedly during his discussions with prosecutors.

Manafort’s attorneys insist he did not violate the plea deal and said they intend to rebut the government’s filing after they see it. Manafort is currently jailed while he awaits sentencing and waived his right to appear in court Friday.

We'll find out more about how Mueller knows Manafort lied in just one week. 

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