Maxwell 24: Juicing, Chiropracters, and Faux Insurance

[Dru]

19 hours ago, clueliss said:

I have tried zucchini as a kid - forced on me repeatedly by the crazy aunt who used to try to 'hide' it in things (the tell on these incidents was her unwillingness to tell us what was in something).  I still don't like it.  And yup - duck free zucchini from folks.  Said issue from childhood along with limited finances when I was a kid (plus honestly folks. small town grocery stores often didn't carry a wide variety of foods back in the 70's) mean that exposure to some things just hasn't been there.  I'm not an adventurous eater.  I've only tried Spaghetti and Butternut squash in the last few years.  

My grandma tried doing that to me with liver. As if there's a way to hide that shit. Lol

18 hours ago, theologygeek said:

They sell Buddig in the dollar store around here.  I only had chipped beef once in my life when I was a kid.  I begged my mother to get the Stouffers one for me.  My father did not want my mother to ever make it because he had it when he was in the Air Force.  He called it shit on something or other.  The Stouffers one was disgusting.  Same thing happened when I was a child and begged my mother to get Spaghettios.  That was also disgusting.  lol  Maybe the chipped beef reminds Steve of his military days.  Who knows.  I can't believe they served that slop at a rehearsal dinner.  

I never buy it, but I would eat the hell out of some Spaghettios if someone put it in front of me. Lol

45 minutes ago, Four is Enough said:

Mayonnaise. Hellmann's. That is all.

Totally. We always had Miracle Whip in the house growing up because that's what my mom liked. Awful.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 minute ago, Dru said:

18 hours ago, theologygeek said:

I never buy it, but I would eat the hell out of some Spaghettios if someone put it in front of me. Lol

You and me, sister!  The kind with meatballs. I'd eat the heck out of that out of the can with a plastic spoon right now.

[nausicaa]

On 9/17/2018 at 1:12 AM, Tatar-tot said:

Teri is not that great at domestic stuff.  She should higher a maid and got to work.  She really seems to hate to do any sort of domestic task.  

It kinda cracks me up how Teri is actually the conservative Christian stereotype of the "career woman" with little interest or talent in traditionally feminine pursuits. 

She isn't very warm or nurturing. Her homeschooling was rote and uninspired to say the least. They don't seem to have any picturesque holiday traditions. She can't sew and her home decor is half-assed and out of style. I've never seen fresh flowers in their house or a backyard garden. She seems to take zero interest in cooking and just throws processed foods together with no regard to freshness, nutrition, or flavor combinations and serves the same thing over and over again. 

It makes me wonder how low their opinion of other women's homemaking skills is since they believe they should be imparting knowledge to us through their books and blog.

I'm a single, secular working woman and my house is better decorated than Teri's. I can sew decently. I like kids. And while I don't love cooking, I can make a healthier and more appetizing meal than that monstrosity (I do suck at gardening though). Like, what does Teri really think she's going to teach me and other women my age? This isn't to toot my own horn-- other than decorating, I'd consider myself pretty uneducated and mediocre at most of these things. But I'm still doing better than Teri. Every one of my secular SAHM friends has more June Cleaver genes than her. 

[snickerz]

1 hour ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

 

Ha!  When the time comes please write my obit.

I have already given my family strict instructions for when I die. My obit is to read:

"____  ____ is dead."

[anjulibai]

I wonder what Teri would have done if she hadn't been a fundie SAHM. She got a degree - did she have a plan for using it? Maybe a lot of her anxiety is related to needing a structured job. I mean, when I'm at home, I procrastinate and get anxious and depressed because I feel like I have so much to do around the house. But at work, with set tasks, I do well and enjoy it. I don't feel anxious, I feel like I can accomplish a great deal. Perhaps Teri is the same way. 

[Hane]

5 minutes ago, anjulibai said:

I wonder what Teri would have done if she hadn't been a fundie SAHM. She got a degree - did she have a plan for using it? Maybe a lot of her anxiety is related to needing a structured job. I mean, when I'm at home, I procrastinate and get anxious and depressed because I feel like I have so much to do around the house. But at work, with set tasks, I do well and enjoy it. I don't feel anxious, I feel like I can accomplish a great deal. Perhaps Teri is the same way. 

This reminds me of something I heard back in the early ‘60s, when few middle-class suburban mothers in my area were employed outside the home. One poor woman was plunged into deep depression when her little boy died of leukemia. Her doctor actually advised her to get a job out in the community.

[IReallyAmHopewell]

57 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Maybe he got two helpings of the zucchini pie?  That would include 1/4 of a small zuch and TWO baby carrots after all.

That and he sneaks extra burrito filling---3/4 teaspoon and doesn't confess. Damned to hell for all eternity--which is an improvement over living at home like his sisters forever. And those fabulous kettle bell (whatever they are called) workouts. And manly work. Manly work is essential.

44 minutes ago, nausicaa said:

 She should higher a maid and got to work.

HIRE??? She birthed them. 3 of 'em. Hiring requires PAYING. Not happening.

[SPHASH]

Happy Birthday Forgotten Jesse, you are now another year closer to death.

[Jana814]

37 minutes ago, Hane said:

This reminds me of something I heard back in the early ‘60s, when few middle-class suburban mothers in my area were employed outside the home. One poor woman was plunged into deep depression when her little boy died of leukemia. Her doctor actually advised her to get a job out in the community.

Wow that's interesting that a doctor would suggest that especially during that time period. 

[PennySycamore]

2 minutes ago, Jana814 said:

Wow that's interesting that a doctor would suggest that especially during that time period. 

Not really.  Lots of women had jobs outside the home -poor women, blue collar women, single women, even rich women.  Even those women who were not employed outside the home were active in their communities:  Red Cross, Community Chest. women's clubs, the Wednesday Afternoon Fine Arts League, etc. 

[theologygeek]

8 hours ago, nausicaa said:

It kinda cracks me up how Teri is actually the conservative Christian stereotype of the "career woman" with little interest or talent in traditionally feminine pursuits. 

She isn't very warm or nurturing. Her homeschooling was rote and uninspired to say the least. They don't seem to have any picturesque holiday traditions. She can't sew and her home decor is half-assed and out of style. I've never seen fresh flowers in their house or a backyard garden. She seems to take zero interest in cooking and just throws processed foods together with no regard to freshness, nutrition, or flavor combinations and serves the same thing over and over again. 

It makes me wonder how low their opinion of other women's homemaking skills is since they believe they should be imparting knowledge to us through their books and blog.

This is what happens when a man forces a woman to do what they don't want to do.  You end up miserable and not even wanting to get out of bed.  You want a couple of kids?  Have them.  No kids?  Then don't.  A houseful?  Then do it if you can afford to.  Stay home, work from home, work outside the home-follow your dreams.  The saying is true-"If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."  Teri looked so happy when she visited her old college.  She sounded happy too in that post.  Steve is just evil for stopping her from living out her dreams.  

[Jana814]

27 minutes ago, theologygeek said:

This is what happens when a man forces a woman to do what they don't want to do.  You end up miserable and not even wanting to get out of bed.  You want a couple of kids?  Have them.  No kids?  Then don't.  A houseful?  Then do it if you can afford to.  Stay home, work from home, work outside the home-follow your dreams.  The saying is true-"If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."  Teri looked so happy when she visited her old college.  She sounded happy too in that post.  Steve is just evil for stopping her from living out her dreams.  

Teri did look happy in the her old college visit.  Steve didn't care about Teri and what was right for her. All he cared about was himself.  I'm sure a big reason why he started his own church was he needed to control everything and he couldn't in someone else's church. 

[Black Aliss]

13 hours ago, catlady said:

Actually, it was even less per person.  One of Anna’s replies was that it served eight.  Eight!  This was in 2009, so Joe and John were still at home.  When I have a go at this recipe, I will probably reduce the beef and increase the zucchini, carrots, and celery.

Let us know how it turns out. The term "small zucchini" is so imprecise (says the woman who seeks out recipes that specify amounts in ounces or grams!). My favorite zucchini user-upper uses 1# of pasta to 2# zucchini or yellow squash and a half-pound of ricotta (plus loads of basil and garlic) and I automatically double or triple the amount of carrots called for in most recipes.

Still shaking my head at someone encountering their first zucchini in 2009.

[catlady]

29 minutes ago, Black Aliss said:

Let us know how it turns out. The term "small zucchini" is so imprecise (says the woman who seeks out recipes that specify amounts in ounces or grams!). My favorite zucchini user-upper uses 1# of pasta to 2# zucchini or yellow squash and a half-pound of ricotta (plus loads of basil and garlic) and I automatically double or triple the amount of carrots called for in most recipes.

Still shaking my head at someone encountering their first zucchini in 2009.

i improvise *a lot* with almost every recipe (excepting things like jam or bread, where precision counts).  i'll probably end up using two grocery store zucchinis--these tend to be smaller than farm stand ones, four or five big carrots, and half a bunch of celery.  (is it a bunch?)  my pie plate will end up heaped pretty high, and it will serve three.  not eight.   the only thing in that recipe that seems reasonable is the onion--a whole one. what a departure from when Terri combined half an onion with what, four pounds of beef?  

[theologygeek]

2 hours ago, Jana814 said:

Teri did look happy in the her old college visit.  Steve didn't care about Teri and what was right for her. All he cared about was himself.  I'm sure a big reason why he started his own church was he needed to control everything and he couldn't in someone else's church. 

Yeah...That, and the kids can't get into any shenanigans if their only church friends are elderly.  Steve certainly had a plan there.  Homeschool, work together traveling the country, and do church for the elderly.  The kids didn't stand a chance to make real friends with that kind of life.  The closest they got to friends was the nice girl from Ohio or the boy from Canada who they met at conferences.  Exchanging letters and seeing each other at events was the closest they got to having friends.  That's pretty sad.  What's sadder is that none of the adult children figured it out yet.  

[Elegant Mess]

14 hours ago, Foudeb said:

I swear if I had to write a birthday post in Sarah's style for myself it would read something like, Foudeb is human. She shows her uniqueness by breathing in oxygen at regular intervals. She also eats several times a day. Her family like those traits about her. Praise Jesus! 

But how does she take her coffee? 

[Dru]

1 hour ago, theologygeek said:

Yeah...That, and the kids can't get into any shenanigans if their only church friends are elderly.  Steve certainly had a plan there.  Homeschool, work together traveling the country, and do church for the elderly.  The kids didn't stand a chance to make real friends with that kind of life.  The closest they got to friends was the nice girl from Ohio or the boy from Canada who they met at conferences.  Exchanging letters and seeing each other at events was the closest they got to having friends.  That's pretty sad.  What's sadder is that none of the adult children figured it out yet.  

There isn't anything for them to figure out because their parents were very open about the fact that they shouldn't have friends outside of the family. Back in 2002/2003 Sarah posted on one of the message boards (I think it was the daughter's board) about how much she regrets playing with neighborhood kids when she was little and how nothing good came from it. Interestingly she also refers to the reversals as "our" younger kids when talking about how her parents don't allow them friends.

[LurkerOverThePond]

One just has to wonder what goes on in Chelsy's mind when she attends the Sunday lunch at Maxwell HQ... Pretty much every food picture on the Bontrager blog makes me drool. NR Anna might also know a thing or two about cooking, since she seems to be such a natural homemaker. 

I always thought food at Maxwells was better than this shit Teri made, like very basic but nutritious and decent looking/tasting. Seems I was totally wrong. I had no idea she regularly fed her kids frozen microwave meals (nothing wrong with that every now and then, but don't go preaching others about your homemaking skills when your everyday meals consist of frozen pizza). No wonder Reversal Anna started cooking!

[Granwych]

3 hours ago, Elegant Mess said:

But how does she take her coffee? 

In a cup??

Along other thought lines, I'm a little surprised that Steve lets the wimmenz serve anything but loaves and fishes.

[Hane]

8 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

 

Still shaking my head at someone encountering their first zucchini in 2009.

Flashback to the summer of 1963: My (very Italian) family went on vacation to Cape Cod and at one point we visited an art museum. Grandma overheard the following conversation between two ultra-bohemian-looking women:

Woman 1: Oh, DO come for dinner. We’re having something exotic. Zucchini.

Woman 2: ?

Woman 1: (in italics) Squash.

My first-generation-American grandma just about peed laughing. For years, we referred to the vegetable as Exotic Zucchini.

This summer, my daughter made chocolate chip zucchini bread, a departure from our traditional cinnamon-spice kind. It was delicious, and tasted like Toll House cookies.

[samurai_sarah]

18 hours ago, nausicaa said:

It kinda cracks me up how Teri is actually the conservative Christian stereotype of the "career woman" with little interest or talent in traditionally feminine pursuits. 

She isn't very warm or nurturing. Her homeschooling was rote and uninspired to say the least. They don't seem to have any picturesque holiday traditions. She can't sew and her home decor is half-assed and out of style. I've never seen fresh flowers in their house or a backyard garden. She seems to take zero interest in cooking and just throws processed foods together with no regard to freshness, nutrition, or flavor combinations and serves the same thing over and over again. 

It makes me wonder how low their opinion of other women's homemaking skills is since they believe they should be imparting knowledge to us through their books and blog.

I'm a single, secular working woman and my house is better decorated than Teri's. I can sew decently. I like kids. And while I don't love cooking, I can make a healthier and more appetizing meal than that monstrosity (I do suck at gardening though). Like, what does Teri really think she's going to teach me and other women my age? This isn't to toot my own horn-- other than decorating, I'd consider myself pretty uneducated and mediocre at most of these things. But I'm still doing better than Teri. Every one of my secular SAHM friends has more June Cleaver genes than her. 

I'm with you all the way. And well, there is one thing Teri does very well: She makes me feel good about my home-making skills. If she's the gold standard, I'm platinum.

So are plenty of our fellow FJers, who hold all kinds of personal beliefs, and know a burrito recipe that's healthier and easier than Teri's. And yes, I am judging, because if she holds herself up as better than thou, she needs to deliver!

[Coconutwater]

5 hours ago, Elegant Mess said:

But how does she take her coffee? 

With lots of mocha and a little coffee? 

[danvillebelle]

Not defending Teri at all, but - she does know how to sew, she just doesn't anymore.  I remember a whole section in MOTH about her sewing matching outfits for herself and the girls and when someone asked her how she found the time, she told them she sewed for 30 minutes a day (scheduled, of course).  

I think she quit when they finally gave up on the matching frumpers several years ago.

[Captain Obvious]

5 hours ago, LurkerOverThePond said:

One just has to wonder what goes on in Chelsy's mind when she attends the Sunday lunch at Maxwell HQ... Pretty much every food picture on the Bontrager blog makes me drool. NR Anna might also know a thing or two about cooking, since she seems to be such a natural homemaker. 

I always thought food at Maxwells was better than this shit Teri made, like very basic but nutritious and decent looking/tasting. Seems I was totally wrong. I had no idea she regularly fed her kids frozen microwave meals (nothing wrong with that every now and then, but don't go preaching others about your homemaking skills when your everyday meals consist of frozen pizza). No wonder Reversal Anna started cooking!

See this is what I don't understand. The Maxwell girls definitely bake, and not just using box mixes either - we've seen them making home-made pastry and tortillas before, and Anna also makes bread rolls regularly. They have quite a lot of specialist cooking equipment like Anna's smoker, wok thing and breadmaker. And sure as hell they have the time to cook properly.

I guess we just have to assume they don't know any better. Processed, basic food is what they're used to, and their experience of eating out is limited to church-hosted dinners and 'family' restaurants. Probably their idea of something really fancy is Olive Garden - hell, that one time they tried lobster it was overcooked as hell and they hated it. 

It actually reminds me of an article I read once that said that many Americans have a diet that's basically larger versions of what you'd expect to find on a kids' menu. From what I've read on here, it seems that's even more likely for people from the midwest, Southern or rural areas. 

[HereticHick]

I say there is at least an 80% chance that the Maxwells will acquire an OfJesse by Jesse's 25th birthday.

She will:

--Love coffee

--Love Jesus

--Have a Servant's Heart

--Enjoy working out