Where in the World is Doug Phillips (Who Is a Tool)? Part 9

[Howl]

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35.Phillips promised Ms. Torres that he would marry her and that she would be the person who would have the great privilege of being his  wife.  In Ms. Torres’s eyes  he was the primary leader of this movement and the most powerful male figure in  her universe.  Phillips repeatedly told Torres that this was possible because his wife, Beall Phillips, was going to die soon.

I recall reading this back when and thinking it was kind of funny, because it was just another crazy Doug lol in the middle of all the other Doug/VF crazy.

I read it now and it's utterly chilling.  I watch a fair bit of murder porn (Dateline, Investigation Discovery, true crime). When another woman is involved, a husband murdering his wife rather than divorcing is a recurring theme.  I honestly think Beall might have dodged a bullet. 

 

 

[The Mother Dust]

On 11/18/2018 at 7:02 AM, DomWackTroll said:

Dusty was "quietly out" as a partnered lesbian, but I want to be loud about it: HEY DOUG, YOUR DAUGHTER IS GETTING "ALL THE FEELS" FROM A LESBIAN! DEAL WITH IT, LOSER!

Oh, I never knew that about Dusty, interesting.  Just last week I was listening to an interview with Freddie Mercury that some lovely person had posted on youtube, and he was talking about how he admired Dusty Springfield and wished she would resume performing.  And now continuing with the awesome gay people theme, i'm a bit surprised i've not seen more shocked responses from FJers about Doug's kid doing what seems like will be a flattering  "special" on Oscar Wilde. I wasn't aware of VF during it's heyday, but i'm assuming it was all Gay People = Evil, like the rest of the hyper christian ilk. I mean....there is no grey area here, I think it's widely known he was gay.  How do the Phillipses reconcile this?  Unless the piece will be more critical than the preview is letting on.   Unless they really don't care what their former compatriots think?   So many questions....

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, The Mother Dust said:

I wasn't aware of VF during it's heyday, but i'm assuming it was all Gay People = Evil, like the rest of the hyper christian ilk.

Absolutely -- sodomite this, homosexual that. Doug used the typical fundie Christian asshat language any time he referred to LGBTQ individuals or issues.

Given his current activities, one wonders if Doug himself actually believed it all or if he just used the catch words & phrases to rile up the troops.

[The Mother Dust]

7 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

Absolutely -- sodomite this, homosexual that. Doug used the typical fundie Christian asshat language any time he referred to LGBTQ individuals or issues.

Given his current activities, one wonders if Doug himself actually believed it all or if he just used the catch words & phrases to rile up the troops.

Right....especially the artsy cabaret/burlesque scene in Europe....I wonder if Flo and the other girls would still be so enamored if they knew how he spoke about the LGBTQ community.  

[older than allosaurs]

21 hours ago, The Mother Dust said:

I have had linkedin for several years, (I work in I.T.) and I would put this in the "yes, but it's rare" category.  I think employers look at this mostly as part of the evaluation process after they have selected you for an interview.  I would advise your son to post his resume on the big job boards, and actively use indeed.com to start sending in applications.

I agree. I do freelance writing and editing and am an adjunct prof. I recently got a "request to apply" offer for a faculty job through LinkedIn, but that's rare, and not really what I'm there for.  I do expect that my profile gets used as a sort of reference check when I'm being considered for a gig that I located through other means. For that reason, I am careful about soliciting recommendations and reviews--quality over quantity helps. I also know that some students check it when deciding whether to sign up for my section of a required class.

Back in the day I taught my high school students (and my daughters) to use "skills-based" rather than experience based resume formats when they were starting out. That way you can quantify your facility with Excel, or whatever, outside of the job market. There are lots of templates out there to help you do that without looking like Beall.

[DomWackTroll]

Faith just wants us to "get over ourselves" and yay diversity!!! Girl, go tell it to your father. 

 

[hoipolloi]

10 minutes ago, DomWackTroll said:

Faith just wants us to "get over ourselves" and yay diversity!!! 

She says while shopping at that bastion of diversity, Hobby Lobby.  

[Marian the Librarian]

48 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

Absolutely -- sodomite this, homosexual that. Doug used the typical fundie Christian asshat language any time he referred to LGBTQ individuals or issues.

Given his current activities, one wonders if Doug himself actually believed it all or if he just used the catch words & phrases to rile up the troops.

And let us not forget Dougie's frequent use of the word "normativity," his shorthand for "Its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"

After the holiest-of-holy wedding of Peter Bradrick and Kelly Brown, VF acolyte Nattie Darnell kvelled long and loud that their nuptials struck "another blow for normativity." 

Nattie's old Persevero! blog was a goldmine of opportunity for snark. Ah, the good old days...

[The Mother Dust]

56 minutes ago, DomWackTroll said:

Faith just wants us to "get over ourselves" and yay diversity!!! Girl, go tell it to your father. 

 

That's rich. A rainbow hued testing of the waters before the Oscar Wilde special?  Insert eyeroll here. I'm sorry, I just can't get over it.  My English major self is feeling protective and possessive.   She's got to know her family would blast him if VF was still a thing.  Just using him for content because he's a popular figure.  It makes me angry.  Were you allowed to read his works before Tool O'Ween?? HUH???!!

[Howl]

I don't think we need to get over ourselves and I don't think I need to get over myself.  The legacy from your dad, however.....

[DomWackTroll]

1 hour ago, Marian the Librarian said:

And let us not forget Dougie's frequent use of the word "normativity," his shorthand for "Its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"

After the holiest-of-holy wedding of Peter Bradrick and Kelly Brown, VF acolyte Nattie Darnell kvelled long and loud that their nuptials struck "another blow for normativity." 

I remember there was one wedding couple who actually had a sign on the back of their car that said, "WELCOME TO NORMATIVITY!", but I can't remember if it was P&K or someone else. 

Edit: I found a photo of it in this post (link below). It was actually writing on the window, and in the comments, someone says it was the Melissa Keen/Justin Turley wedding. 

https://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/god-glorifying-normativity/

[Palimpsest]

2 hours ago, DomWackTroll said:

 in the comments, someone says it was the Melissa Keen/Justin Turley wedding. 

In the comments someone also says that Justin played in a band that performed for Hugh Heffner. 

Ah, yes.  Melissa Keen from Return of the Daughters.  Those were the days.

Late to the party on Beall's strange LinkedIn page, but she needs to decide what she wants to do and figure out how to get a job doing it!  The whole thing is a confused mess, for all the reasons given above.

If she likes caring for seniors so much then find a job at Helping Angels, or an equivalent, in TX and build up a resume.  With her "experience," her pals writing overblown references, and Beall's gift of the gab she might be able to talk herself into a job as activity director for an Assisted Living residence too.  Not many people want to work with seniors but it can be very rewarding.

Sadly, I suspect she wants to set up her own business caring for seniors and that is what the Phillips Enterprises thing is all about.  I hope not.  I don't trust Beall as far as I could throw her.  And that isn't far.

What seriously bothers me is that innocent people might hire that good Christian lady, Beall, to care for an aging parent - and then find Mom is making frequent donations to Operation Meatball.  Got to keep Liberty's international travel fund going.  And it wouldn't be the first time a vulnerable senior got fleeced by someone with sticky fingers.

[AnnaSofia]

19 hours ago, The Mother Dust said:

  i'm a bit surprised i've not seen more shocked responses from FJers about Doug's kid doing what seems like will be a flattering  "special" on Oscar Wilde. I wasn't aware of VF during it's heyday, but i'm assuming it was all Gay People = Evil, like the rest of the hyper christian ilk. I mean....there is no grey area here, I think it's widely known he was gay.  How do the Phillipses reconcile this?  Unless the piece will be more critical than the preview is letting on.   Unless they really don't care what their former compatriots think?   So many questions....

It came up a bit a few pages back. It's not just Doug's kid, it's a Dougie-made production. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think he's posted it on his DW Cinematographer Facebook page, which I suspect is because several of his old VF sycophants still show up there to kiss his ass. 

[smittykins]

21 hours ago, The Mother Dust said:

Oh, I never knew that about Dusty, interesting.  Just last week I was listening to an interview with Freddie Mercury that some lovely person had posted on youtube, and he was talking about how he admired Dusty Springfield and wished she would resume performing.  And now continuing with the awesome gay people theme, i'm a bit surprised i've not seen more shocked responses from FJers about Doug's kid doing what seems like will be a flattering  "special" on Oscar Wilde. I wasn't aware of VF during it's heyday, but i'm assuming it was all Gay People = Evil, like the rest of the hyper christian ilk. I mean....there is no grey area here, I think it's widely known he was gay.  How do the Phillipses reconcile this?  Unless the piece will be more critical than the preview is letting on.   Unless they really don't care what their former compatriots think?   So many questions....

I think the ones I was most surprised about were Robert Reed(The Brady Bunch), Ron Pallilo(Welcome Back Kotter), and singer Lesley Gore("It's My Party").  And Ron had a Catholic funeral, even though he was in a long-term relationship with his partner. 

[bea]

Oddly, the Vision Forum and Doug Phillips Wikipedia entries are out of date and incomplete.
I mean. In case anyone wants to update them.

[Lisafer]

Hey, I was browsing FJ and an ad popped up that amused me greatly. And then I realized which fundie needed this outfit:

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The Tool, of course! Kitschy cosplay glory, and it covers his mouth so he can't talk!

[formergothardite]

@Lisafer, that reminded me of the advertisement for swords he made.  That is Doug narrating it. He is just so in love with himself. 

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[Palimpsest]

21 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

That is Doug narrating it. He is just so in love with himself. 

I don't remember seeing that before.  His terrible attempt at a British accent is hilarious.

 

[bea]

Dear God, how did I manage to miss that? It’s fabulously awful.

Oh Doug. You pretentious douchebag.

[formergothardite]

34 minutes ago, bea said:

Oh Doug. You pretentious douchebag.

He is so pretentious and he obviously thinks he did a good job since he left it up on the VF YouTube channel! He had to have written the "four elements to be a valiant swordsman" and thought it was very clever. 

 

 

[formergothardite]

I've never seen this video before. In it Doug discusses what he will do if a wife comes to him to discuss problems with her husband.  He will listen, but he gives his normal benefit of a doubt automatically to the man. So the wife has to provide an awful lot of proof before Doug will believe her over the man because the man is a leader and people in leadership roles get a benefit of a doubt.  It is around the 3:30 mark.  And despite the name it doesn't really seem to be about stoning children. 

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[AnnaSofia]

On the Dougie stalking front, it looks like he was at the fundraiser Faith performed in during the first weekend of November In Pagosa Springs.

 

[smittykins]

Swordfight in a warehouse!

[snowgirl]

On 11/30/2018 at 8:19 AM, smittykins said:

Swordfight in a warehouse!

Ohhh, I thought it was Home Depot!  ha ha

 

[Lisafer]

On 11/29/2018 at 4:22 PM, formergothardite said:

I've never seen this video before. In it Doug discusses what he will do if a wife comes to him to discuss problems with her husband.  He will listen, but he gives his normal benefit of a doubt automatically to the man. So the wife has to provide an awful lot of proof before Doug will believe her over the man because the man is a leader and people in leadership roles get a benefit of a doubt.  It is around the 3:30 mark.  And despite the name it doesn't really seem to be about stoning children. 

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Why on earth would people in leadership get the benefit of the doubt? Oh wait, it's so that if they get accused by the nanny, they can try to weasel out of the charges...