Sierra 2: Pregnancy Rumors Again?

[front hugs > duggs]

@crancraz I do that too! I personally really like CFA. We don’t have very many near us at all, but one just opened right near my work and is super convenient. I felt truly guilty about liking it. So I try to “offset” each dollar spent with a donation to different LGBTQ charities as well. I still feel guilty, but hope I’m putting some good back into the universe!

[Bobology]

Our local CFA had a trans worker when we* visited once. Could have NOT been a trans man but I'm 99% sure it was. 

This is my opinion: Their nuggets apear to be marinated in sugar and then coated in a light coating that includes sugar before they are cooked in a fryer that has sugar oil in it. And that's why the kids love it.

* My CFA experience began with a public statement in 2012 that I would NEVER go to a CFA. Enter a hungry grandchild, stuck in a mall before lunch and the only other food place open is a cookie counter, so CFA it was. He's 6 now and I still take him to CFA occasionally when he asks.

[FecundFundieFundus]

Other than the omnipresent gendering, Sierra's birthday post to her eldest daughter is pretty sweet. No pleas for help except in her eyes in the accompanying photos. 

Skmeon says the kid looks just like Sierra ("She gets that a lot. It's an honor for me." Aw, I'm giving you a mom point for that one), but dang this kid and one of the boys have the EXACT SAME FACE. Mark has super strong face genes I guess

[QuiverFullofBooks]

Sierra is looking and sounding more and more like Jill Rodrigues. 

[crancraz]

17 hours ago, front hugs > duggs said:

@crancraz I do that too! I personally really like CFA. We don’t have very many near us at all, but one just opened right near my work and is super convenient. I felt truly guilty about liking it. So I try to “offset” each dollar spent with a donation to different LGBTQ charities as well. I still feel guilty, but hope I’m putting some good back into the universe!

@front hugs > duggs  lessens the guilt a little!

[Snarkasarus Rex]

I get why people don’t like CFA, but for those who refuse to eat there, do you also boycott Amazon, Wal-mart, and Nestle, avoid Chinese-made products, drink only fair trade coffee, and have only ethically sourced jewelry?  What about your investments?  Have you looked at the companies your retirement accounts are invested in?

If you don’t like what CFA’s charitable org is doing, by all means, don’t give CFA your money.  I too have my personal list of companies I refuse to patronize for ethical reasons, but I don’t pat myself on the back for it because that would make me a giant hypocrite.

CFA seems to be an easy target, but there are many companies out there who have done far worse and that impact is overlooked or ignored.

[PlentyOfJesusFishInTheSea]

4 hours ago, Snarkasarus Rex said:

I get why people don’t like CFA, but for those who refuse to eat there, do you also boycott Amazon, Wal-mart, and Nestle, avoid Chinese-made products, drink only fair trade coffee, and have only ethically sourced jewelry?  What about your investments?  Have you looked at the companies your retirement accounts are invested in?

If you don’t like what CFA’s charitable org is doing, by all means, don’t give CFA your money.  I too have my personal list of companies I refuse to patronize for ethical reasons, but I don’t pat myself on the back for it because that would make me a giant hypocrite.

CFA seems to be an easy target, but there are many companies out there who have done far worse and that impact is overlooked or ignored.

This is the hard thing about capitalism - apparently it's up to the consumer to make these calls but the information is often opaque, and we are often trying to also optimize for other things (cost, convenience). Often companies may be good in some areas and less good in others.

So I'm saying, do your best, avoid all shitty stores if you can, but don't beat yourself up if you have to make hard choices. Maybe I'm a dirty socialist but I think it makes more sense to regulate these companies so their harm is minimized than to expect all consumers to "vote with their dollar."

[HereticHick]

Fundies, please stop ruining the word "date."  Taking your daughter on a birthday "outing" is not a date. Getting coffee with your brother is not a date. Me walking my dog is not a date.  This conference call I'm going to be on later today is not a date.

 

[TheMustardCardigan]

Fundie use of the word "date" to describe two family members having outings together is just so WEIRD to me. I think it stems from these people having umpteen children and having very rare one-on-one time with them? Like, Sierra's day with her daughter sounds pretty similar to a LOT of days I spent with my mom running errands when I was a child. We'd go shopping, take care of tasks like going to the bank, maybe stop for lunch or get a slushie to drink on the go as a fun treat. It's not a date, it's called spending time with your kid or just plain old normal day-to-day life.

But Sierra is most likely running around like a chicken with her head cut off chasing after half a dozen kids and toddlers all day, so she thinks "spend time one-on-one with your kid" is some kind of grand epiphany that no one else has realized is important!

[JermajestyDuggar]

31 minutes ago, TheMustardCardigan said:

Fundie use of the word "date" to describe two family members having outings together is just so WEIRD to me. I think it stems from these people having umpteen children and having very rare one-on-one time with them? Like, Sierra's day with her daughter sounds pretty similar to a LOT of days I spent with my mom running errands when I was a child. We'd go shopping, take care of tasks like going to the bank, maybe stop for lunch or get a slushie to drink on the go as a fun treat. It's not a date, it's called spending time with your kid or just plain old normal day-to-day life.

But Sierra is most likely running around like a chicken with her head cut off chasing after half a dozen kids and toddlers all day, so she thinks "spend time one-on-one with your kid" is some kind of grand epiphany that no one else has realized is important!

It’s sad as hell to me. I have two kids and both my husband and myself have plenty of one on one time with our kids. Every single day actually. If it’s this rare for Sierra to spend one on one time with a child just imagine how rare it is for Mark. My guess is it’s non-existent. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by JermajestyDuggar

[nvmbr02]

I can see how it is difficult to have one on one time with that many kids. I mean I don't even have time to have weekly one on my one with my kids sometimes and there are only 3 of them and my husband generally has even less time. It was easier when they were younger, we has way less going on in our lives but these days there is always something. We make time when we can, like running through the Starbucks drive through on the way to cheer practice or hitting Sonic after baseball, etc... Especially on the rare occasion I have only one kid in the car and we aren't zooming off to the next thing on the schedule. 

But Sierra's kids are younger. And as far as I know they are involved activities outside the home. And they don't have school or after school activities or clubs. She just has plain too many children to spend time with on a daily basis. And that is very sad. 

[Lgirlrocks]

Not sure why Sierra uses the word “date” but I think most fundies use it because they can’t actually date until married. No I don’t include chaperoned dates dating. To me when you date you get some alone time. Doesn’t have to be every time. I couldn’t imagine not being alone with a person before I marry them. 

When I was little, five or six maybe, my dad took me on a “date”. It was the only one we went on. Not sure if I called it a date or if he did. We got dressed up and went out to dinner. I hung out with my dad all of the time. It was never called a date. We just went out for a soda or to the store. 

[Daisy0322]

I go to "lunch dates" with friends or a shopping date with my mom. I don't use it in a romantic way, I think of it as meaning quality one on one time with another person. That said... fundies can make anything sound weird lol

[Jana814]

My parents have lunch together every Thursday. They don’t call it a date, they call it “getting out of the house while the cleaning people are at our house”. 

[Alice in Fundieland]

On 9/3/2019 at 5:40 AM, Snarkasarus Rex said:

I get why people don’t like CFA, but for those who refuse to eat there, do you also boycott Amazon, Wal-mart, and Nestle, avoid Chinese-made products, drink only fair trade coffee, and have only ethically sourced jewelry?  What about your investments?  Have you looked at the companies your retirement accounts are invested in?

If you don’t like what CFA’s charitable org is doing, by all means, don’t give CFA your money.  I too have my personal list of companies I refuse to patronize for ethical reasons, but I don’t pat myself on the back for it because that would make me a giant hypocrite.

CFA seems to be an easy target, but there are many companies out there who have done far worse and that impact is overlooked or ignored.

On many occasions this has helped me determine whether or not I want to give a company my money. I don’t know if there’s an Android version but I’d imagine there is because the app has been around for several years. 

HRC Foundation's Buyer's Guide by Human Rights Campaign
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hrc-foundations-buyers-guide/id345618414

[Alice in Fundieland]

Obviously that app focuses on LGBTQ+ friendly companies and I know there are other issues to be concerned with, but it’s a helpful starting point. 

[NoKidsAndCounting]

The "date" term is a little weird when using it for family members, but I know that JRod is really hot on using the word "date" even when describing an outing with a brother and sister together.  If I had asked my brother out on a "date "he would have thrown up a little in his mouth and asked our parents if I needed help.

[squiddysquid]

So the kid had to pay for this "date"? #parentingfail

[lizzybee]

Imagine feeling so compelled every time you do something not only to document it heavily for thousands of strangers, but also feeling you must wax lengthily from some sort of supposed moral high ground at them on how they too should be doing whatever it is that you’re doing. It’s like she thinks she’s some sort of sage master-mother that must educate the rest of us on how to appropriately enjoy our children. ?

[OyToTheVey]

Idk maybe it’s cuz I’m an only child. But what Sierra describes is just everyday life. Going to the store with mom or dad and having a treat. It happens when kids tag along. But because there’s So many kids and she can’t pay attention to 6 at a time, it’s considered special time. I feel so bad for these kids. Thinking an hour out of your parents day in a month is special. That’s just shit parenting imo. Stop having kids and pay attention to the ones you already have. And please give the older ones to school. School year just started it’s not too late. And please please please stop posting breakdowns of how hard everything is. Your kids will see it and end up blaming themselves. 

[FecundFundieFundus]

I use "it's a date" with anyone I have an appointment with and "going on a date" with close friends or family when we have a one on one special outing occasionally. Like "I have a date with Angie to get some coffee and go thrift shopping." I don't think that's weird, but ymmv. I think it's acceptable usage, after all we say "going as so and so's date" for formal events, even when the "date" is platonic or blood related. 

I have never in my life said that I'm dating my children. For me that verb is exclusively for romantic or sexual partners. 

 

[ven]

Just a thought : can we move sierra to the other fundie family general thread ? She is out of place in the duggar thread by now i would think as she isnt the wedding maker anymore etc etc 

[TheMustardCardigan]

5 hours ago, OyToTheVey said:

Stop having kids and pay attention to the ones you already have. And please give the older ones to school. School year just started it’s not too late. 

Sierra would really benefit from sending her older kids to school... not to mention the kids would all really benefit from it too. Instead of being subjected to mom's weird rants about Chick Fil A sandwiches and dramatic monologues about how she needs to ~keep marching~ through the piles of laundry, they could be getting out of the house and learning a damn thing or two.

[LacyMay]

I'm conflicted here. I actually thought the post was kind of sweet, but it's because having come from a lower income single parent home a day like that would have been unheard of. 

What annoys me is every time Sierra posts about spending time with her kids she does it in this weird way like it was a HUGE sacrifice for her or a super special thing. You are a stay at home mom who made a choice to have a quiver. Stop acting like you deserve a gold star for spending time with your kids.

 

And ghe overuse of the word date is weird.

Edited September 5, 2019 by LacyMay

[AussieKrissy]

I almost put up a post the other day (on social media) about my three year old being my “little coffee and cupcake date”. 

Then I thought of this site and was like, nah and wrote companion instead.  In hindsight sidekickwould have been more apt. 

It was not like a special outing we just happened to walk by. Being a mum and daughter, doing errands. 

Maybe because I only have one she gets my unlimited time.  Maybe with more than one I would phrase it more like, I have a date (set) to do something with only this particular child to make just our relationship important for that time. 

I know what I’m trying to say. I also know it’s clear as mud. Lol

Edited September 5, 2019 by AussieKrissy
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