Duggars By the Dozen 34: Lens Flare Photo with the Grandkids

[justoneoftwo]

I give it 2

[AussieKrissy]

6 hours ago, Italiangirl said:

I have to say i'm a little bit scared too by all this quiet in Duggar and Bates ville...what is waiting for us on 2019?? just on Duggars pregnancy we could easily have Anna, Jill, Jessa, Joy, Kendra, Lauren and Abbie!!  ?

Plus there will be courtship and weddings too

jinger too, don't forget her no reason she cant have one.

Every single married daughter or daughter in law could have a baby next year. 

[singsingsing]

Somewhere back in the mists of time, I learned how to read tarot cards. I was bored today, and after playing around with my cards trying to find some inspiration for NaNoWriMo, I decided to do spreads for all the Duggars. You guys... I am shook. The universe showed me some wild things.  But seriously, I found the whole process pretty interesting and figured I'd share the outcome with anyone interested.

Disclaimer: this is for entertainment purposes only. Whether you believe in psychic powers, tarot, messages from the universe, or anything remotely metaphysical, take it all with a gigantic grain of salt (and obviously if you don't remotely believe in any of it you know it's all just for fun). If you are spooked or made uncomfortable or are simply annoyed by such things, I will not take offence to you skipping this post, and have put all the readings behind spoilers.

I did each couple or individual separately. For each one, I shuffled the deck, asked, "What does the future have in store for ___________ ?" and did a simple celtic cross spread. These were the readings:

Jim Bob and Michelle:

Spoiler

Jim Bob and Michelle find fulfillment in their relationship. They are still very much in love and devoted to each other. Their relationship is the basis of their happiness and success. But they are challenged by indecisiveness, dishonesty, and someone close to them who stirs up conflict.

Their goal is to accumulate wealth, and they may be blinded by greed. Beneath it all, bitterness and bad feelings have developed due to a grief or trauma. There are feelings of jealousy and rigidity. But the treachery and deceit that affected them is now behind them. Before them, the biggest influence in their lives is a warm, loving woman, nurturing and gentle, loyal but basically a chameleon, creative but lacking a backbone (I'm thinking Jana).

Their biggest problem by far is being covetous, jealous, and wasting their own potential. Their family/household/close circle is defined by laziness and a desire for wealth without effort. They want religious order and tradition and greatly fear its upheaval.

In the future they will be forced to make some kind of significant move, at least somewhat against their will or due to negative circumstances.

Josh and Anna:

Spoiler

Josh and Anna's current situation is defined by disharmony and conflict, though this may be temporary or cyclical in nature. There is a problem with a lack of temperance. They're threatened or haunted by a hidden enemy or a secret that may be exposed. There is a pursuit of foolishness and an overarching naivete and ignorance. They keep going down this road. Their relationship is underpinned by a lack of morality, a lack of trust and integrity. Interestingly, there is a possible conflict with Jana, or Josh may be perceived as almost being the anti-Jana.

A time of happiness, fun, new relationships and enjoyment (possibly even to excess) is now passing from them, but they will double down, resist change and fight against the inevitable. This will continue to cause disharmony in their marriage. Their family and friends are worried about them and hopeful for change. 

Josh and Anna (or at least one of them) greatly fear their marriage ending. Ultimately they will stay together and be all right, but there will always be discontent and insecurity, as well as a taking of things for granted.

Jana:

Spoiler

Jana is currently in a position where she has to accept a demoralizing and unfair outcome. There is regret, but she has to move on. She knows she is in the right and is confident in herself and her decisions. Again, this may even have something to do directly with Josh. 

One part of her life is drawing to a close and something new is beginning. The problem is that she is prone to self-sabotage and playing the martyr and this may continue to be her future if she stays on her current path. Underlying it all is this great unfairness - she has been falsely accused, or forced to accept an unfair situation. She has been very nurturing, loving and loyal, but too much so, and she's been too passive and yielding. This is ending. She will soon be starting a new adventure and taking a risk, possibly even involving a move. This could indicate a courtship, and if so her suitor will probably be hard working, traditional, confident and enterprising. He will have dark hair and maybe be a fire sign (Aries, Leo or Sagittarius), and probably around her own age.

Despite her conciliatory personality, she does have a tendency to be vindictive and to not want to cooperate. This may be related to her chafing under the patriarchal system of the fundamentalism framework she lives in. She's under the influence or authority of a man who is corrupt, holds a grudge, and can't think outside the box. In her heart Jana wants the world - success, to influence others for good (however she may interpret that). Ultimately she must face her fear of change, because everything will change for her no matter how much she fights against it. 

There's some indication in both Josh and Jana's spreads that they're in direct opposition to one another, maybe even feuding somehow.

John and Abbie:

Spoiler

Okay, I'm warning you guys right now, this turned out to be a surprisingly negative spread.

John and Abbie are dealing with a lot and possibly spreading themselves too thin or taking on more than they can handle. They may be somewhat overwhelmed emotionally. Like Jana, they're dealing with an unfair situation and may have been tricked or taken advantage of in some way. 

One or both of them have a hidden sadness and are trying to suppress their emotions. Their relationship involves great success - there will be prosperity and material gain, possibly a new job or business, and also contentment, happiness and satisfaction. And in the past, one or both have exercised great strength to get through tough situations, but this is ending. The future holds negative thought patterns, lack of appreciation for the good things, and dwelling on regret and loss. There is the loss of one or more relationships and ensuing sadness and negativity.

Like Jana, they are also finding themselves in conflict somehow with the patriarchal system they live under, OR they may be causing conflict by perpetuating it. There are issues with one or both of their families or close circles, conflict, someone trying to impose their will on them and crush their resistance. They fear misfortune and trouble ahead, not being able to make a decision and being held hostage by negativity.

Interestingly, their ultimate outcome is the same as Jana's: success, pursuing dreams, but.... it's accompanied by a lack of contentment. Also possibly indicates being overshadowed by Jana in the end.

Jill and Derick:

Spoiler

Jill and Derick are working together to push ahead and accomplish a goal. They collaborate and cooperate. They're a team in pursuit of what they want. The problem is that Derick is unreliable - he loves wealth but is unwilling to work for it (people, I shit you not, this is what the cards say). They are worried about the future but anticipating change. Derick's unreliability is basically the foundation of all their problems. They may also have received some bad news which has had a significant impact on them.

A dispute possibly stemming from a misunderstanding or someone speaking rashly is coming to a close, and the Dillards can look forward to bountiful happiness in the future. They will be fulfilled, in harmony, full of love and joy. They'll have a harmonious marriage and family. 

Neither are very bright and are prone to being pedantic and petty, which sabotages their potential to achieve much in life. But again, their marriage is based on compromise and collaboration, so they work together, not against each other. 

There is an indication of a great deal of maternal influence on them (I'll admit my mind went straight to Cathy Dillard), with one or more women having a great deal of say and authority in their lives, but all are happy with this. There will be a great deal of happiness and abundance in their household, and Jill will have more babies. 

Their priority above all else is their relationship, and they are insecure about it. They fear being divided, at odds, or experiencing a marital breakdown. Ultimately this reading is extremely optimistic about their marital happiness, but they will experience some domestic disharmony due to tradition and resistance to change (which makes me think there may be drama in the future as their children chafe under their rules/religion).

Jessa and Ben:

Spoiler

Jessa and Ben are currently at a low point having previously been at a high point, but this only amounts to the temporary ups and downs of life. The problem is that they lack perspective and are feeling bitter due to their current misfortune. Right now they're dealing with disappointment, possibly brought on by others. It seems that they are trying to have another child and may be having some trouble. Some kind of injustice has befallen them, or at least this is how they feel. 

In the past they've struggled with weakness, inaction, possibly neglecting the health of their relationship - but they're putting that behind them. Ben is starting to take the lead. He is basically coming into his own and taking on more of a leadership position in the marriage. He's a bit brash but he cares about justice and doing the right thing. He's very keen to put his plans into action and will do what it takes to triumph over adversity.

These two have dealt with deception and bad dealings, and possibly some mental illness. They're wary of being taken advantage of. A crisis is brewing in their family or social circle. Someone is trying to bend them to their will.

Jessa and Ben's overarching goal is a happy marriage and family - providing for their children, being in good standing in their social circle, being secure long-term. In the end they are going to prevail. They'll be secure in the knowledge that they are in the right, they'll have spiritual security, and they'll accept themselves for who they are. This will involve leaving behind certain things from their past and embracing a new future.

Jinger and Jeremy:

Spoiler

This is a relationship (or two people) defined by weakness, intolerance, ignorance, and hopelessness in the face of adversity. But they're trying to learn to choose their battles and compromise when necessary. Jeremy's experience of the world has a big impact on their relationship (not in a bad way). There were some issues with minor but contentious disputes, but this will soon be in the past. Unfortunately something worse is coming - tyranny and domination by a cruel, unfeeling man.

They're dealing with great pain, tragedy and loss. They've definitely experienced misfortune, but help is coming and the end is in sight. Their hope for the future is exactly the same as Jessa and Ben's - marital happiness, happy family, good social standing, security and stability, but it will either come faster for the Vuolos, or they'll appreciate it sooner. 

Jeremy will definitely be the leader of their marriage, and the face of their marriage. He will be successful. Jeremy will remain Jeremy. There will be no huge revelations or changes for the Vuolos. It seems that have faced/are facing/will face some pretty significant pain and adversity, but they will stick to their path and not deviate much from what they are right now.

Joseph and Kendra:

Spoiler

Joseph and Kendra are blissfully ignorant, innocent and naive. Blind optimism may end up hurting them. As with Jana, there is a tendency for self-sabotage and martyrdom here. Their goal is basically to be happy, have a good life, and have their hopes fulfilled. Their childlike character and innocence defines their whole relationship. They love each other unconditionally. But they may have trouble fully embracing the realities of adulthood. They have had a great deal of maternal influence in their relationship recently which is now starting to lessen. 

They're going to have to be careful going forward that they're not naively trusting the wrong people as someone may not have their best interests at heart. Possibly there's some indication that they're becoming less passive/like doormats and more discerning as they grow up. Indeed, they feel uneasy and maybe even fearful of the inevitable changes happening in their lives/relationship.

Joe and Kendra are going to be receiving some major news or be confronted with something new relating to their family soon which may lead to travel or a move, and it will happen fast. Their biggest fear seems to be that they will be too impatient or take the easy way out and it will only distract from the real problem. 

Unfortunately they do have a rough patch ahead of them and will have to confront some intense emotional turmoil, pain and insecurity in their relationship.

Josiah and Lauren:

Spoiler

Josiah is charming and attractive but capable of great deceit and disloyalty, and is not above exercising trickery and fraud on those who trust him. His facade may be slipping. Lauren is strong and knows what she wants and isn't afraid to pursue it, but is also very careful of the feelings of others. She's practical and generous. She and Josiah are in direct conflict (whether they realize it yet or not).

What they both want is to face life as a team and have a cooperative union, and the bedrock of their relationship is the ability to exercise self-control. They've had a wonderful, joyful and exhilarating honeymoon period, possibly/probably including a pregnancy, but now reality is hitting. A dispute will bring out the worst in someone and their success/happiness is short term. Major problems will emerge in the relationship and play out amongst their close family and friends. One partner will feel taken for granted while the other will become unfaithful (or tempted). 

They'll place their hopes on a move/new home/new beginning (and Jana's future beau may even factor into it somehow), and it seems this may just work for a while because they do have good times ahead of them. They will be happy for a while, but it won't last. But they may be able to draw strength from that good time as they face adversity again. 

Joy-Anna and Austin:

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Honestly, this one is kind of my favourite because it's just so. damn. practical.

Joy and Austin are currently dealing with some kind of embarrassment, possibly negative gossip. They've been disappointed by people working against them. They are trying to trust that others will get their just desserts and that their own sacrifices and trials will be worth it in the end.

Much of their life revolves around monetary risk and trying to hold on to what they've gained. They recently made a significant new start which involved taking a risk but was a practical decision and well thought out. 

There is a miscommunication in their future that may lead to bad feelings and dispute. They're a bit shallow and like to get what they want without much concern for the feelings of others. They'll have to deal with someone close who has an anger problem or is otherwise somewhat volatile and unreliable. 

Their biggest fears are related to finances: making a poor investment, going into debt, etc. They may find themselves in some financial trouble in the future, either due to being the victim of a corrupt person, or by taking advantage of others and being less than above board themselves.

Keep an eye out for my next post to see what's in the cards for Jedidiah through Josie!

[SapphireSlytherin]

@singsingsing - this is fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to share this.  

[Lurker]

@singsingsing Thank you for sharing, this was so interesting.  

[AussieKrissy]

@singsingsing

Cheers I love reading stuff like that 

[AussieKrissy]

Ok @singsingsing I am ready for the next lot lol 

[singsingsing]

Okay guys, here's Part 2 of the Duggars' fortunes, haha!

Jedidiah:

Spoiler

Currently the major influence or motivating factor in Jedidiah's life is the concept of justice. This could mean defending the weak, helping the less fortunate and actively working for good. Or it could mean striving for a just outcome, which may be the more likely interpretation given the context. There is a possible failed courtship or relationship here and it is negatively affecting him. He hopes to recover from this period of misfortune and celebrate good fortune in the future. But he's been affected by deceit and unfair dealings, and there is the possibility this relationship may have even failed due to the influence of another young man.

Jedidiah has perhaps been a bit too generous or less careful with money in the past and it's gotten him into trouble. He's going to continue making poor decisions and may deal with some significant loss because of it. He seems to have some bad feelings relating to women (or maybe one specific woman) and selfishness/greediness when it comes to money. 

Those closest to him are helping him get through a difficult time. He's worried, but things are going to change. In the future he will be faced with disharmony in the family as tradition comes into conflict with a desire for change.

Jeremiah:

Spoiler

Jeremiah is experiencing a loss, defeat, or some kind of major confusion. There is a risk of bitterness, hatred and jealousy, and perhaps developing a grudge. He may have a secret he doesn't want exposed, and may also feel that the help Jed is getting from those closest to them is not being given to him. He's trying to resist the inevitable and digging his heels in, and indecision has been his downfall. Things are going to improve greatly for him in the future, though, as he will come into a financial windfall, through honest means, possibly a gift or inheritance.

Currently his difficulties arise from a weakness of will and inability to hold to his convictions - he doesn't have much strength. A possible broken relationship among those close to him (likely Jed?) is having a significant effect on him. He fears the same thing happening to him. If he doesn't improve his outlook and develop a more positive attitude he may miss out on a wonderful opportunity.

Jason:

Spoiler

Jason seems apathetic, maybe a bit lazy, not really concerned with potential risk and somewhat withdrawn. He's lonely and insecure and is dealing with some strong emotions. He is striving for harmony, being able to tactfully deal with conflict and maybe also working through some cognitive dissonance. He's definitely doing a lot of introspection and is coming to terms with himself and his religion. He's getting over a period of hopelessness and will be much stronger for what he's gone through.

He is careful with money and worried about debt. He has the example of a loving and strong relationship among those close to him (probably his parents). Spiritual and religious matters weigh heavily on him and he takes them very seriously. He's seeking religious knowledge and fulfillment.

There will be a separation in his future - he may break with his family somehow, or go through a divorce.

James:

Spoiler

James is dealing with some kind of humiliation and may have people spreading rumours about him (or be dealing with some similar issue). Someone has tricked him or made him think they were a friend when they weren't.

He has a goal that he thinks will bring him happiness and success and is committed to sticking to his path to achieve it - following his dream. But at the root of it all there is intolerance and ignorance stemming from religious issues which he will have to overcome. He was influenced a lot by his mother or another strong female figure but her influence is waning now.

James is going to have to face some very major demons and temptations in the future and will probably have enormous anxieties and/or struggles related to religion.

Right now he is working very steadily toward achieving his goal and will probably travel to do so. He's seen from those closest to him how unpredictable life can be, so he'll try to look to the future with optimism and will probably end up embracing a new opportunity or forging a different path. He wants to be a fair, kind man and is uninterested in traditionally 'manly' pursuits. He's more balanced. He wants to be someone people will come to for advice, and to help others with their problems. In the future he will be popular and successful but will have to watch that he doesn't overindulge. 

Justin:

Spoiler

Justin is prone to sentimentalizing the past and may think everything was so much better 'back in the good old days'. He has a tendency to be willfully ignorant and stick his head in the stand. Unfortunately he's got heart break in his future, but he will rally and get over it eventually. He is prone to taking on more than he can handle and spreading himself too thin. 

There has been some experience with monetary irresponsibility or fraud (this may be a problem with the Duggars in general as it's coming up again and again in these spreads). Again, there is a broken relationship in his future and he may miss out on something good due to dwelling on the bad. He may not really like his family or friends and wish for something different. He worries he'll get all he desires but it will end up not being worth it, or come at a cost.

Jackson:

Spoiler

Jackson is dealing with fear, anxiety, depression and/or guilt. He's been on the losing end of some minor disputes that are threatening to become major problems. There is embarrassment here again due to gossiping or bad-mouthing - he may want to inflict it on someone or avoid it himself. People are working against each other and he's losing battles. Great misfortune has befallen him and is now coming to an end, but he'll be paralyzed by a resistance to inevitable change. He dwells too much on past hurts and needs to learn to let go. 

He may deal with an unfaithful partner in the future, or currently have some kind of negative female influence in his life. Whoever this woman or girl is, she is stupid, ignorant, vain and dishonest, and if it is a future spouse, she'll be cheating on him.

He fears hatred, resentment and abuse of power - maybe he's seen it in others and fears it in himself, or just fears being the victim of it. In the end he will triumph and enjoy great good fortune and success in life. Overall, though, he has a LOT of conflict going on and there may be a major dispute or battle coming.

Johannah:

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Johannah is not having a very good time of it, and there doesn't seem to be much hope for improvement. She's stuck/trapped. She may make sacrifices or give up things to pursue spiritual matters. Very strong possibility for a Journey to the Heart in her future. She wants enlightenment, self-acceptance and self-confidence, as well as spiritual security.

She is very influenced by her role as a woman and by religion, and might want to lead or advise others in religious matters. She has had security and stability in her life up till this point. She is really not materialistic and this has been encouraged, as have her feminine attributes. She seems to enjoy beauty and creativity and has had the freedom to explore that. But things are going to change and she'll find herself dealing with unfounded accusations and maybe even rebelling against a situation she finds unfair.

She is dealing with a lot of emotional turmoil, loneliness and insecurity, and may feel misunderstood. There is also dishonesty and distrust among some of those closest to her.

Self-knowledge and introspection will be huge for her. She might fear becoming isolated or cut off, however.

Jennifer:

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Jennifer has a hard time being strong and true to herself. There is the potential for bitterness and jealousy to develop as a result of hardship. There is a really strong tendency to focus on the negative and almost refuse to see the good in life or to hope for better - maybe a fear of being let down or hurt (defensive pessimism).

She has experienced deception and abuse of power (another thing, along with financial issues, that keeps coming up here), and maybe mental illness, in her circle, and this puts her on guard. Indecision and poor choices have led to misfortune, but there are brighter times ahead. Unfortunately the future will also bring injustice and unfairness for her. She is angry and feels it is a righteous anger. Frustrated, wanting to correct wrongs. Bravery and willingness to face opposition. Perhaps a willingness to defy or subvert certain gender norms.

She feels she is surrounded by successful people who have achieved public acclaim after working hard to overcome misfortune. 

Jenni's greatest hope is to have a happy and secure marriage. She will marry, and her husband will be hard working and successful, reliable, practical, with a good head on his shoulders, and probably quite well off. He is quite possibly significantly older than her, or else they're both older when they marry. Probably has fair hair. There's financial success and stability in her future.

Jordyn:

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Jordyn may have a very happy marriage in her future that will define her life, but more likely she has a very happy, loving, close relationship with someone in her life right now, possibly a deep friendship full of mutual understanding and unity. As she learns more and gains more knowledge and understanding of her world, things will change and this will present obstacles. 

She's very concerned with justice and fairness, and has a tendency to be more optimistic and to deal with setbacks better than her older sister Jenni. There is a male figure who has been unreliable and had trouble with his temper who has recently departed or his influence in her life has lessened significantly.

She has disappointment ahead of her, others working against what she wants, but she has the inner strength to carry her through hardship and to help others as well. She may find her family or community boring and make a rash decision without fully considering the consequences. She's afraid of minor issues getting blown out of proportion and becoming major problems. She'll be victorious in life, but it will be a rather hollow victory. She'll be happy she won but not really happy about how it happened.

Josie:

Spoiler

Josie is currently being affected by some kind of division, possibly the breakdown of a relationship between a couple close to her. She has issues with not being able to cooperate and work with others, and she likes seeing other people fail. She is ambitious but sort of ruthless, and maybe expects to be able to exert authority and control and always have everything her way. She likes to win for the sake of winning. Obviously this leads her into trouble. She may want to bring others down via spreading gossip or lies about them, or be worried that it will happen to her.

There is a resistance to change and refusal to accept it. The influence of a corrupt, stubborn, unimaginative male is now passing from her life. She'll be breaking a bad habit or overcoming a bad influence as she moves forward. 

Josie has social issues, issues with communication, possibly being too 'in your face', loud, or intrusive at times, and she is stubborn, leading to loneliness. She's also surrounded by people who are basically undermining each other. There's a lot of deceit and manipulation just beneath the surface in this circle. 

She wants to be spiritually on top, achieve whatever the best possible status would be for someone like her in their religion, and wants tradition, structure and order. She will be willing to make major changes to achieve her spiritual goals. There's a lot of adversity coming in the future and she'll have to rely on her own strength to face it.

 

[candygirl200413]

TLC said the wedding special is November 20th on TLC Go and 27th on TV with the new season starting the beginning of next year.

[AussieKrissy]

@singsingsing

Do the Bates.  Please  

though maybe just the over 18s. If you are stuck for time and energy. I get that you are all light hearted and stuff and I did read it  all and (guiltily) enjoyed it, but I still feel a bit guilty and a bit icky reading about the little ones. 

Which is just me and not wanting to project my own I twrpreations on a minor.

[singsingsing]

Just now, AussieKrissy said:

@singsingsing

Do the Bates.  Please  

though maybe just the over 18s. If you are stuck for time and energy. I get that you are all light hearted and stuff and I did read it  all and (guiltily) enjoyed it, but I still feel a bit guilty and a bit icky reading about the little ones. 

Which is just me and not wanting to project my own I twrpreations on a minor.

Yeah, it's super important that people know this is 100% just for fun and I'm not at all prescribing certain attributes or futures to them (though a lot of it was weirdly accurate and it's kind of freaking me out??? lol). Totally get not wanting to read the ones about the kids, though, which is why I put them behind spoilers! I will do the Bateses, maybe tomorrow - other people will have to judge how accurate my psychic powers are in that realm because I haven't followed the Bateseses closely for a while now. 

[Shadoewolf]

Love tarot, there are at least 3 or 4 decks in our house at all times, including the original Rider Waite. Great reading too!

[caitrona]

 Not surprised they all seem to have a shady financial dealing and/or person to deal with. 

This is fascinating to me.  How did you get into reading cards? I've always wanted mine read, especially when I was younger, but my uber-Catholic family had me convinced I'd burst into flames or summon a demon or something like that. ?

 

[Italiangirl]

Wow @singsingsing some of it us really accurate! It will be interesting to come maybe in 6 months and see what happens 

@AussieKrissy right don't know why I didn't count Jinger, maybe just the thoughts of so many Duggar pregnancy scared me! 

[CarrotCake]

I predict the next announcement when they air the wedding end of the month, they need to get the buzz going for that episode.

[SapphireSlytherin]

7 hours ago, singsingsing said:

She will marry, and her husband will be hard working and successful, reliable, practical, with a good head on his shoulders, and probably quite well off. He is quite possibly significantly older than her, or else they're both older when they marry.

Anybody else read this part (bolding mine) and think Lawson Bates? lololol

[singsingsing]

9 hours ago, caitrona said:

 Not surprised they all seem to have a shady financial dealing and/or person to deal with. 

This is fascinating to me.  How did you get into reading cards? I've always wanted mine read, especially when I was younger, but my uber-Catholic family had me convinced I'd burst into flames or summon a demon or something like that. ?

 

Great question! Honestly, it's been so long that I don't really remember now. I always had an interest in it, and I ended up finding a deck that I loved the feel and look of. I've also found it really useful for examining and analyzing different situations. Because even if there is no outside force behind it (metaphysical or otherwise) and it's just random and objectively meaningless, it makes you think about things in ways that might never have occurred to you otherwise. I have never burst into flames or summoned any malevolent entities to my knowledge, but I respect that some people are just more comfortable steering clear of stuff like this. It's not like a Ouiji board or a seance, though, which purport to summon spirits - it's more like a complex Magic 8 Ball. 

[FrozenSmile]

That was so interesting to read! My bff reads tarot cards, so i’ve always been facsinated with them. 

As far as pregancy announcements, i think that CarrotCake is probably correct.  

[SapphireSlytherin]

18 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

summoned any malevolent entities

Sure you have! That's apparently why I'm here. lol

[SamiKatz]

9 hours ago, caitrona said:

 Not surprised they all seem to have a shady financial dealing and/or person to deal with. 

This is fascinating to me.  How did you get into reading cards? I've always wanted mine read, especially when I was younger, but my uber-Catholic family had me convinced I'd burst into flames or summon a demon or something like that. ?

 

Mine too!  I have several decks and actually hide/put them away when my mother is visiting.  Also the reason I never dabbled with Ouija boards.

[singsingsing]

Okay my dudes, I've posted the first batch of Bates readings over in the general Bates thread on that forum. Enjoy (if you're so inclined)!

[Rachel333]

The tarot stuff would likely bother fundies more than anything else on this board! Many would see that as an actual spiritual attack and be incredibly disturbed by it. If my mom had found out that someone did that for one of us when we were kids (or now, for that matter) she would have been extremely upset.

[singsingsing]

12 minutes ago, Rachel333 said:

The tarot stuff would likely bother fundies more than anything else on this board! Many would see that as an actual spiritual attack and be incredibly disturbed by it. If my mom had found out that someone did that for one of us when we were kids (or now, for that matter) she would have been extremely upset.

Yeah, I kind of considered that, but since these are the same people who are deeply offended and disturbed by all kinds of stuff that I think is totally innocuous or positive, I decided I really didn't care (especially since they'll most likely never see this).

I understand that people have widely differing viewpoints on stuff like this, though, and that I inhabit my own bubble where none of it seems significant or alarming at all - so if there is a general consensus that people are disturbed about the readings for the kids in particular, I can definitely ask the mods to delete those.

[Rachel333]

6 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

Yeah, I kind of considered that, but since these are the same people who are deeply offended and disturbed by all kinds of stuff that I think is totally innocuous or positive, I decided I really didn't care (especially since they'll most likely never see this).

I understand that people have widely differing viewpoints on stuff like this, though, and that I inhabit my own bubble where none of it seems significant or alarming at all - so if there is a general consensus that people are disturbed about the readings for the kids in particular, I can definitely ask the mods to delete those.

I have mixed feelings about doing it for the kids, but overall I personally don't think it's actually harming anyone and hopefully they won't even find out about it.

I think people who haven't been fundie though don't understand how upset many of them get at anything "occult." It's more than your average fundie offense taking; they actually believe it's real and a genuine spiritual threat. I also grew up charismatic, though, with people who took a particular interest in demons and "spiritual warfare," so it's very possible that other fundies wouldn't even be as upset by occult stuff as my family would be.

[AussieKrissy]

20 hours ago, Italiangirl said:

Wow @singsingsing some of it us really accurate! It will be interesting to come maybe in 6 months and see what happens 

@AussieKrissy right don't know why I didn't count Jinger, maybe just the thoughts of so many Duggar pregnancy scared me! 

what scares me is if the shit show of all those pregnancies hit how am I going to find the time to keep up with all the forums