The Royal Wedding looms ahead

[Briefly]

15 hours ago, Destiny said:

Help! I'M HEADED DOWN A TIARA RABBIT HOLE.

If I don't come back, someone send the rescue kittens. (Ferrets freak me out.)

I just want to know if Amy Farrah Fowler is going to wear hers when she marries Dr. Sheldon Cooper!

[WiseGirl]

Curse you people for this tiara rabbit hole!  I like the Khedive Egypt Tiara, the emerald Queen Victoria one, the The Honeysuckle Tiara, ...  I see I have a new obsession now.... 

[AliceInFundyland]

14 hours ago, Briefly said:

I just want to know if Amy Farrah Fowler is going to wear hers when she marries Dr. Sheldon Cooper!

Goodness sakes. Those two are still not married?

[Bethella]

27 minutes ago, AliceInFundyland said:

Goodness sakes. Those two are still not married?

Thursday night!!!!!

[AliceInFundyland]

7 minutes ago, Bethella said:

Thursday night!!!!!

Aw. I might have to track that episode down. I watched up until a couple seasons ago. Love those guys.

[nokidsmom]

Catching up on threads and of course, couldn't pass up the Harry and Meghan wedding thread.  Do plan to watch it live just as I did with C&D and W&K.

On 5/4/2018 at 7:37 AM, Palimpsest said:

The Queen has loosened up with her grandchildren publicly, if not privately, and undoubtedly loves them all very much.  However, she is famously undemonstrative, very rigid in her beliefs about the imortance of the crown, and how the royals should behave.  She has very high expectations of her family, and has been disappointed many times by their behavior.  Obviously.

Agree.  I get the feeling the Queen is genuinely a warm person  but she's been raised from an early age to a life of duty coming first.  No doubt the circumstances under which her father became king was a factor in her beliefs about the crown, it's significance and how royals should behave as well.   She seems to have loosened up a bit publicly in recent years though.      

Never forget her words "annus horribilus" statement in 1992 in the wake of 3 of her childrens' marriages crumbling, related scandals and the fire at Windsor.   Probably wasn't easy to admit having personal difficulties but it was an obviously bad year.

[FundieFarmer]

I have a whole Pinterest board just for tiaras/crowns. I can’t help myself. Queen Victoria’s are some of my favorite.

Order of Sartorial Splendor is a GREAT blog if you like royals, jewels, fashion, and royal fashion or royal jewels!

[Knight of Ni]

I’ve read that both Beatrice and Eugenie aren’t fond of Kate or Meghan. Something about them being commoners. But then again media is never reliable and that idea is much more interesting than they are friends.

[Palimpsest]

12 minutes ago, Knight of Ni said:

But then again media is never reliable and that idea is much more interesting than they are friends.

Yes, I wouldn't count on taking that to the bank.  The tabloids love to report fighting, without much regard for truth.  I read somewhere that Harry and Meghan hung out a lot with Eugenie and (insert fiance's name) when they were still trying to fly under the radar.  It might have been a direct quote from Harry, now I think about it.

On 5/7/2018 at 2:49 PM, FundieFarmer said:

Order of Sartorial Splendor is a GREAT blog if you like royals, jewels, fashion, and royal fashion or royal jewels!

One of my friends introduced me to it.  She probably reads and posts there as much as I do on FJ!  I usually only check out the tiara posts, but the wedding dress coverage is excellent too! 

[VelociRapture]

Thomas Markle will no longer be attending the wedding:

http://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-dad-wont-attend-royal-wedding/

Highlights:

1. Thomas apparently had a heart attack last week, but checked out of the hospital early because of the wedding.

2. Meghan’s always charming half-sister, Samantha Grant, orchestrated the recent paparazzi photos of their father prepping for the wedding. The idea was born because Thomas wasn’t happy with photos the paparazzi had previously taken of him after they tracked him down and he wanted to show a better image.

3. Thomas chose not to attend because he doesn’t want to upset or embarrass his daughter further. Meghan and Harry have, again, requested understanding and respect for Thomas at this time.

I hope Thomas is feeling better soon. He seems to very much enjoy his privacy and none of this sudden attention appears to have been easy on him.

ETA: An US Magazine article with Samanatha’s now deleted tweet where she took responsibility -

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markle-disturbed-by-father-thomas-markle-staging-photos/

[ViolaSebastian]

Wow, what a shit show. I wonder who’ll walk her down the aisle now. 

[punkiepie]

I feel really sad for Meghan. If this wasn’t a royal wedding in front of the Queen of England, her mom could walk her down the aisle. But I somehow think that would be frowned upon and not allowed. I hope I’m wrong. Otherwise, I can’t think of anyone who could do it for her. If it were me, and my mom wasn’t allowed, I would rather walk by myself than be escorted by someone who meant very little to me, just so it seemed proper. 

[Kangaroo]

Yeah no wonder she's not had contact with this side of the family for so long. Her half siblings (and a few other relatives on that side) seem incredibly narcissistic and envious of her. I really hope after the wedding the press start to ignore them a lot more, because it's pretty obvious they don't really know what's going on and are just causing more tension and distrust from Meghan.

It will be interesting to see if more of her mother's side attends the wedding. I don't think they've really said anything, and maybe only shared a few childhood photos. I can see the angry rants already from the non invited!

As for who will walk her down the isle, I kind of hope it's her mum. I mean she's already a divorced American, so it's not as though times haven't changed.

If not, I expect someone like William or Charles will step in. They are her family now too after all, and i think they understand the drama the press can create better than most. 

 

[singsingsing]

I was just coming here to post about this. Man, I feel sorry for Meghan Markle right now. Holy shit. Her dad's side of the family just will. not. stop. Her dad himself just comes across as a guy who's had some struggles and really wants to be left alone and very much did not ask for or want any of this, so I feel bad for him too. Especially if he felt pressured into going to the wedding. I get wanting to be there to support your daughter, but there's no shame in not being able to go through with it. And the fact that he just had a heart attack and was still going to go over there is just crazy! 

I have a feeling these half-siblings of hers will not fade gracefully out of the spotlight after the wedding. I wonder if there's a way the royal family can bribe them to shut up? I'm only half joking.

1 minute ago, Kangaroo said:

As for who will walk her down the isle, I kind of hope it's her mum. I mean she's already a divorced American, so it's not as though times haven't changed.

If not, I expect someone like William or Charles will step in. They are her family now too after all, and i think they understand the drama the press can create better than most. 

I'd love for it to be her mum, but someone from Harry's side would be nice as well. I loved the idea of her walking down alone, but after this hiccup that image would seem a bit more sad than empowering, unfortunately (though it would still be totally cool if she did it).

[Briefly]

3 hours ago, Kangaroo said:

Yeah no wonder she's not had contact with this side of the family for so long. Her half siblings (and a few other relatives on that side) seem incredibly narcissistic and envious of her. I really hope after the wedding the press start to ignore them a lot more, because it's pretty obvious they don't really know what's going on and are just causing more tension and distrust from Meghan.

It will be interesting to see if more of her mother's side attends the wedding. I don't think they've really said anything, and maybe only shared a few childhood photos. I can see the angry rants already from the non invited!

As for who will walk her down the isle, I kind of hope it's her mum. I mean she's already a divorced American, so it's not as though times haven't changed.

If not, I expect someone like William or Charles will step in. They are her family now too after all, and i think they understand the drama the press can create better than most. 

 

I read that Prince William will be walking her down the aisle, now that her father has backed out.  I do feel sorry for her father in some ways.

[ViolaSebastian]

Possibly unpopular opinion: Mr. Markle did not have a heart attack. 

[viii]

I wanted Meghan to originally walk herself down the aisle and show her independence, but I agree at this point it would just bring more attention to her dad. 

My guess is her mother will escort her, but I’d love it if Prince Charles stepped in and really embraced that fatherly role. I’d be surprised if it was William - he’s the best man and will have other duties. 

[QuiverFullofBooks]

Meghan should have made more of an effort with her father’s side of the family. Yes, they’re coming off as pretty awful, but it’s also clear that she went off in search of fame and fortune and neglected them completely. I saw an interview with her sister, who is in a wheelchair and said that she’s only doing paid interviews because she can’t afford an accessible house. Seriously, Meghan couldn’t have stepped in and bought her a house? Of course if you have a broke close relative and you marry Prince Harry, they’re going to be talking to the tabloids! Maybe she figures that Harry doesn’t read them and she wants to leave her early life behind. She also should have brought her father to Britain a while ago and introduced him to some people who could help him feel comfortable at the wedding. And paid more attention to his health, financial, and public relations issues.

[LittleOwl]

On 5/11/2018 at 7:49 PM, Knight of Ni said:

I’ve read that both Beatrice and Eugenie aren’t fond of Kate or Meghan. Something about them being commoners. But then again media is never reliable and that idea is much more interesting than they are friends.

I went to public school near these two (played the school at Hockey a few times) and there was a rumor that Eugenie was caught starkers on the school roof with a couple of friends 

[singsingsing]

2 hours ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Meghan should have made more of an effort with her father’s side of the family. Yes, they’re coming off as pretty awful, but it’s also clear that she went off in search of fame and fortune and neglected them completely. I saw an interview with her sister, who is in a wheelchair and said that she’s only doing paid interviews because she can’t afford an accessible house. Seriously, Meghan couldn’t have stepped in and bought her a house? Of course if you have a broke close relative and you marry Prince Harry, they’re going to be talking to the tabloids! Maybe she figures that Harry doesn’t read them and she wants to leave her early life behind. She also should have brought her father to Britain a while ago and introduced him to some people who could help him feel comfortable at the wedding. And paid more attention to his health, financial, and public relations issues.

Are you trolling or do you seriously believe this? Wow.

Her dad's side of the family come across as total lunatics. Nasty, awful, completely dishonest people. Even just observing their own words and behaviours over the past few months, it's no mystery why she would not want them in her life, and God only knows what else has gone on behind the scenes over the years.

No one, no matter how wealthy they are, is obligated to buy their estranged family members houses, or anything else. We have no idea what Meghan has or hasn't done for her father. Remember, her half-siblings have been caught in multiple lies and change their stories regularly.

If my sister got rich and was going to marry a wealthy super famous person and decided she wanted nothing to do with me or our other family members, I would be heartbroken over the lost relationship, but going to the tabloids would be literally the last thing I would ever dream of doing! I like to believe that most people wouldn't. I hope not, anyway.

Here's the thing, too: maybe Meghan Markle is a mean, selfish, manipulative person. Doesn't matter. Her half-siblings' behaviour is still incredibly wrong and bone-headed. And if you believe their bullshit that they're just trying to 'warn people' about how terrible she is, look up, somebody wrote gullible on the ceiling. One minute they're claiming she's the wicked witch, the next minute they're saying they miss her and are so sad they can't come to the wedding. Give me a break.

[Hashtag Blessed]

2 hours ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Meghan should have made more of an effort with her father’s side of the family. Yes, they’re coming off as pretty awful, but it’s also clear that she went off in search of fame and fortune and neglected them completely. I saw an interview with her sister, who is in a wheelchair and said that she’s only doing paid interviews because she can’t afford an accessible house. Seriously, Meghan couldn’t have stepped in and bought her a house? Of course if you have a broke close relative and you marry Prince Harry, they’re going to be talking to the tabloids! Maybe she figures that Harry doesn’t read them and she wants to leave her early life behind. She also should have brought her father to Britain a while ago and introduced him to some people who could help him feel comfortable at the wedding. And paid more attention to his health, financial, and public relations issues.

You must have a very close and loving family. Other people aren't so lucky. There are people in my family that we will, and have, happily helped financially. There are other people that we have no relationship with. I wouldn't expect help from them and if they came to me asking for help I'd find that presumptuous. Blood doesn't mean much when there's no relationship. There are even members of my extended family that I actively dislike. If I was in Meghan's position, and those people came out of the woodwork asking for attention and handouts, I'd be pissed. Especially if they said some of the things that the Markles have said about Meghan. If someone calls you a "jaded, shallow, conceited woman that will make a joke of you and the royal family heritage," they don't then get to turn around and say "family comes first." Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. I can see why Meghan wants nothing to do with them. 

Anyone remember the Princess Diaries movie? Mandy Moore's character was a cruel bully to Anne Hathaway until the press comes to school to interview the Princess' friends. Suddenly, Mandy Moore is right in front of the camera claiming they're besties for life. That's what this reminds me of. 

I don't want to draw any conclusions about her father, but the half-siblings sound like real pieces of work. Some of the shit they've said is unreal. I hope her half-siblings are ignored until they go away. If she gives in to them now with handouts or favors they'll just use that to get more press interviews. And then, if she cuts ties with them again, more interviews and attention. Best to just leave them out of it from day 1. 

I agree with those that have said walking alone will draw more attention to this mess, so she probably won't. I would love to see her mother walk her down the aisle. 

[Screamapillar]

Apparently members of Meghan's extended family (her half-brother's wife and kids) are going to be "Special correspondents" on "Good Morning Britain." Looks like they are eager to cash in.

Their arrival at Heathrow with mountains of luggage puts me in mind of the opening credits of The Beverly Hillbillies.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/05/14/meghan-markle-family-members-arrive-london-royal-wedding/

[nausicaa]

3 hours ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Meghan should have made more of an effort with her father’s side of the family. Yes, they’re coming off as pretty awful, but it’s also clear that she went off in search of fame and fortune and neglected them completely. I saw an interview with her sister, who is in a wheelchair and said that she’s only doing paid interviews because she can’t afford an accessible house. Seriously, Meghan couldn’t have stepped in and bought her a house? Of course if you have a broke close relative and you marry Prince Harry, they’re going to be talking to the tabloids! 

I'm guessing you managed to miss having any deadbeat relatives? I didn't. I have cousins who I haven't seen in twenty years who are perpetually in and out of jail (oftentimes for assault), homeless, and/or addicted to various substances. It is not my job, no matter how rich or successful I get, to support them or buy them houses. Not like all the houses in the world would help them. Something tells me Meghan's relatives are similar.

Her relatives are also all adults. How did she "neglect" them?  Her father's family also could have gone off on their own in search of fortune and fame if it were so important to them. Do you really think these people are flying into London, despite having no invitation to the wedding, out of deep and genuine love for Megan?

And the assumption "Of course if you have a broke close relative and you marry Prince Harry, they're going to be talking to the tabloids!," as if everyone must think this way, is really sad and such a mercenary view of the world. I will never understand the crab in the bucket entitlement mentality some people have about family members who happen to be more successful than them. 

I'm saying all of this and I don't even really like Meghan Markle. 

[2manyKidzzz]

I agree with whoever said Charles......but maybe William. One of them should just do this for Harry.

I do hope they will. 

I can’t wait to see the dress. She is beautiful and will look gorgeous. What a mess for her at the last minute. My family is mean and vicious. Life goes on. You can only control your own behavior.

 

[viii]

Apparently Meghan has reached out to her father and told him that she's not upset with him regarding the photos. He is checking with his doctor and if he is given the clear, he will fly to the UK in order to be a part of Meghan's big day. He also confirmed that Meghan does not have a relationship with her half-siblings, as they were already grown and out of the house by the time she was born.