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Josiah Duggar Part 6: Now Officially Engaged!


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I think they’ll get married between May 15th-June 15th According to whenever it’s one week past her last menstruation. They really seem to aim for ovulation -time :my_sick:.

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21 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

You seem a bit new around here, so (first of all) welcome to FJ!

Just so you know for future reference, no one has to explain why they down-voted you on here - but because you seem genuinely confused, I’ll explain why I personally down-voted your comment. I did find it to be a bit distasteful. Not the worst thing I’ve read on here by far, but enough for me to down-vote it. How someone speaks is something they can’t always control and I just found it a bit off putting that you compared the voice of a teenager raised in a purity-centric culture to a porn star.

We are a snark site, but that doesn’t mean we all agree on everything or that we don’t call each other out for comments that may be/are out of line. The site relies heavily on self-policing in the threads and the down-voting you received is an example of that happening. You can say what you want if it’s not against the site rules, but that doesn’t mean we have to agree with you, like it, or allow it to be said without objection.

Others may have down-voted for other reasons, so I’m only speaking for myself here. It happens to everyone at some point though. I hope you stick around and learn more about the site. It can be a wonderful educational resource about the dangers of various forms of fundamentalism. :) 

Okay, thank you for explaining! :) I didn't intend to bully her, I just tend to make observations like that, even though sometimes they are distasteful. I'll work on that. 

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36 minutes ago, Satan'sFortress said:

Gosh, I don't know what is wrong with all of you.  I am just super excited about this engagement!  Lauren is such a sweet girl and has a servant's heart.  I know that Josiah will lead her in Christ and this is such an exciting step for him.  They will make such a sweet couple.  I am also super excited to see what the Lord has in store for them!!  Basically, to summarize:  super excited, sweet, The Lord.  Also, super excited!!!!

Shame on you, you forgot what a "precious blessing" she is to all of them.

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I go to bed and wake up to Josiah getting Married. Pretty sure he was the one that taped the Josh birthday video since the camera kept focusing on Lauren.  well here comes grand duggar 13 by next feb if they follow the Austin Joy time line. 

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2 hours ago, VelociRapture said:

I don’t think so. If my information on her birthdate is correct, then I would guess they’ll marry after she turns 19 on May 18 - putting them in late May at the very earliest. That’s around the same length of time that JoStin had. I’d bet they’ll be married before the end of August at the absolute latest.

Engagement lengths:

Smuggars - just over 3 months

Dills - about 3 months

Benessa - just under 3 months

JinJer - a bit over 3 months

JoKen - just over 3 months

JoStin - just under 3 months

So counting three months from now gives us June 5. I’d bet they’ll marry sometime between May 25th and June 16th.

I'm betting even a bit sooner so TLC can produce the wedding in time for May Sweeps.

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Reckon a 1st of June wedding for SiRen. 

If they seem to time it around ovulation, it might be because they want to avoid being on their period at their wedding, so right in the middle is a safe bet. Also Joy was not ovulating during her wedding, for a 22 February due date puts her ovulation at 1st June, and her 26 May wedding date at just finished her period, assuming a regular cycle. 

If Kendra ovulated during her wedding, that would put her due date at around 31st May. I guess we will see whenever the baby is here. 

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This is not speculation in the least. I have a genuine question though....are we now operating under the belief that “Gaydar” isn’t really a thing? Serious question. What are you guys opinion?

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19 minutes ago, allthegoodnamesrgone said:

Shame on you, you forgot what a "precious blessing" she is to all of them.

And for Rufus Sake you didn't mention how excited that they are moving onto a new SEASON OF LIFE

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Wow this was fast! I didn't expected an announce from them for another month, but well i guess that after Marjorie the Duggars really want to secure Si...at leat they distract me from the disaster that has been the election in my country (sigh i'm still barfed by the result)

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7 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

And for Rufus Sake you didn't mention how excited that they are moving onto a new SEASON OF LIFE

Looking forward to side hugs. Woot Woot.

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okay just read the Duggar message and Blah I think that was the worst one ever especially the part  about how they have seen her grow in her knowledge and understanding of the lord. if they want to seem more palatable to the public. and stay on TV they might want to take some pointers from the Bates who at least on the surface are able to seem like they know and care for their kids outside of religion. and aren't forcing them into fast marriages. they all seem to court a year plus starting with Micheal. now Kelton and Josie may break that one. 

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Either he's scared she'll nope out like Marjorie, or they're both one bribery of a younger sibling chaperone away from doing the nasty in the middle of Marketplace Grill. Mazel tov, I guess? 

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6 minutes ago, gameofunbeknowns said:

This is not speculation in the least. I have a genuine question though....are we now operating under the belief that “Gaydar” isn’t really a thing? Serious question. What are you guys opinion?

19 kids - what are the odds?

i hope they have a happy life together. Like totally!

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2 minutes ago, Don'tlikekoolaid said:

19 kids - what are the odds?

i hope they have a happy life together. Like totally!

No. I’m really not even talking about the Duggars. I’m talking about the idea of gaydar in general.

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Speaking of Marjorie Jackson, she just announced her mom is pregnant with a boy (baby #6). Marjorie is a college sophomore, right? So I think she's 20? So mom is probably 40 or over?

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3 minutes ago, gameofunbeknowns said:

No. I’m really not even talking about the Duggars. I’m talking about the idea of gaydar in general.

Gaydar isn’t real.

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3 hours ago, VelociRapture said:

I don’t think so. If my information on her birthdate is correct, then I would guess they’ll marry after she turns 19 on May 18 - putting them in late May at the very earliest. That’s around the same length of time that JoStin had. I’d bet they’ll be married before the end of August at the absolute latest.

Engagement lengths:

Smuggars - just over 3 months

Dills - about 3 months

Benessa - just under 3 months

JinJer - a bit over 3 months

JoKen - just over 3 months

JoStin - just under 3 months

So counting three months from now gives us June 5. I’d bet they’ll marry sometime between May 25th and June 16th.

And conception around the same time .

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13 minutes ago, gameofunbeknowns said:

This is not speculation in the least. I have a genuine question though....are we now operating under the belief that “Gaydar” isn’t really a thing? Serious question. What are you guys opinion?

I think there’s a big difference between privately thinking or having a hunch about something and publicly stating it for anyone to see online. 

That said, I don’t think gaydar is a real thing. And even if it was, another person’s sexuality (or gender identity) is none of my business. 

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4 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

Gaydar isn’t real.

Not shit disturbing here, but there is actually scientific evidence to back up the idea.  The economist recently published an article where artificial intelligence scans faces to spot signs of human sexuality. I don’t know if it’s as simple as “Gaydar isn’t real.” Interesting read whatever the case.

https://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21728614-machines-read-faces-are-coming-advances-ai-are-used-spot-signs

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I think it's "real" in the sense that, if you're gay, sometimes you get a feeling that someone else might be. You know, as a means to have connection and not just be in a sea of straight people. I don't think it's as simple as "that face is GAY" or some stupid shit like that -- it's usually an accumulation of little things. It's really hard to explain but I've very often, privately, had a sense about someone and have been right. It happened with my first girlfriend - we sort of looked at each other and it was like we just knew. It's helped me to find the people I can connect to on that level.

I have a problem with straight people claiming to have a "gaydar," but there's very often a different context going on for why a bisexual or gay person would speculate. That being said, I hate the word.

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The Duggar messages are as thoughtful as varied as the politicians offering their "thoughts and prayers" for mass shootings. The same amount of effort and interest goes into writing and posting them.

Jim Bob must be feeling pretty good about getting to his 200 grandkids with all these teenage brides.

For some reason I feel like JD will be next, even though I have no real reason to think that. 

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22 minutes ago, gameofunbeknowns said:

This is not speculation in the least. I have a genuine question though....are we now operating under the belief that “Gaydar” isn’t really a thing? Serious question. What are you guys opinion?

There can certainly be "gay vibes" from a person and often it can be correct, but of course not always, so people really should not make assumptions on another persons sexuality. They could be gay, straight, trans, bi or whatever else they identify as. I had casual university friend who were gay and I only realised that when they mentioned their significant other after about a year of knowing them. I do think that the consequences of being a gay fundie is a very interesting discussion subject. I also think that under 18 year olds are off limits. I'm fine with discussing adults like David Waller, if you disagree feel free to downvote me. David Waller is a perfect example of gay vibes, but of course, like I just said, I could be wrong, he could have any possible sexuality. 

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11 minutes ago, gameofunbeknowns said:

This is not speculation in the least. I have a genuine question though....are we now operating under the belief that “Gaydar” isn’t really a thing? Serious question. What are you guys opinion?

Well, I mean....it isn't.  Humans don't use echolocation or other radar-esque techniques, so no one has a form of gay radar that pings on someone who is homosexual :) 

Can people have a sense that someone may be gay or straight without it being said?  Sure.  They may pick up on non-verbal cues.  Or they may respond to a person who is flagging their sexual identity.  A huge chunk of human communication is found in body language, expression, etc.  A person who has a closeted attraction may unconsciously communicate their attraction via body language*, and someone else might read that.  But it's not a radar, it's picking up on non-verbal communication.   

Doing away with the concept of "gaydar" forces us to be more specific.  WHY do I get the sense that this person is not attracted to X or is attracted to Y?  Is it because they seem far happier and more physically comfortable with men than women?  Is it because they're all touchy-feely with their male friends, but are barely willing to put their arm around their wife?  Is it because they seem unusually obsessed with gay sexual activities in a way that makes it seem like they are in denial that they ENJOY thinking about those things?  They may, very honestly, be unintentionally communicating their sexual preferences.

Because where "gaydar" is harmful is when it lumps together behavior that is contrary to the gender binary with sexuality.  Which it often does.  So deconstructing that is helpful, because if you're saying "He seems gay to me because he likes to experiment with fashion and wear bowties", that's bs.  Bowties have nothing to do with sex or sexual preference.  We wear ties in my office, and I know many straight men who wear bowties.  Or "He seems gay to me because he's very emotional".  Again, what you're REALLY saying there is "He seems like [what the binary defines as] a woman, and womanly men are gay".  They aren't, and men SHOULD feel able to express emotions without their sexuality (or gender identity) being called into question.  

No human has radar, and thus, no human has gaydar.  And even if they did, sexuality is not something you can "ping" without another person expressing it (see: Rock Hudson and many other people who successfully hid their sexuality). That doesn't mean you can't sense another person's sexuality outside of linguistic communication.  You can, because humans can and do communicate sexual interest outside of language.  But by examining WHY you think someone might be attracted to whatever, you can better determine whether your feeling is based on legitimate clues from the person OR simply based on harmful stereotypes internalized from our society.  

*All humans communicate attraction to another person via body language, often unconsciously.  

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