Jinjer 37: The Joys of Pregnancy

[luv2laugh]

WOW boy does he sure sound like a nut job! His charisma gives me Koresh vibes. If Jinger wasn’t always clad in pants, I’d be convinced these two got involved with a cult. Maybe they are....

[PennySycamore]

@MoonFace,  I hope that someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that somewhere in the documents of the Second Vatican Council is a statement about how people who never been exposed to the Gospel, but who've tried to live a good, moral life might be saved.  (I"m perhaps not phrasing this quite right.)  I think the Anglican Church holds a similar view.

[MoonFace]

14 minutes ago, PennySycamore said:

@MoonFace,  I hope that someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that somewhere in the documents of the Second Vatican Council is a statement about how people who never been exposed to the Gospel, but who've tried to live a good, moral life might be saved.  (I"m perhaps not phrasing this quite right.)  I think the Anglican Church holds a similar view.

Nice to know.   Thanks

[JoiseyGoil]

Is anyone surprised? Even Tim Tebow and Joel Osteen share Jeremy’s beliefs, it’s way too common among conservative/Baptist churches. Ben, the most progressive Duggar husband, even preached this early on in his marriage. If Jeremy and his ilk strive to rid he country of homosexuality, non-Jesus related religions, and abortion, then partnering with Catholics would be more efficient than making divisive statements towards them, since they essentially have the same political beliefs. 

[luv2laugh]

30 minutes ago, JoiseyGoil said:

 If Jeremy and his ilk strive to rid he country of homosexuality, non-Jesus related religions, and abortion, then partnering with Catholics would be more efficient than making divisive statements towards them, since they essentially have the same political beliefs. 

I’ve noticed that Christians bent on legislating other women’s bodies align with Catholics to unite on advancing the pro-life agenda but when it comes to vying for having the most popular Church, they bash on Catholics as a way to compete. They have financial incentive to do so as more members = more $$$. I believe Laredo has a large population of catholics and since Jeremy is trying to grow a church plant, he’s taking his claws out against Catholics.

I wish churches focused more on unity than division, loving others as Jesus preached, didn’t tolerate gossip, aided in disaster relief, and cultivated a strong network of members that supported single moms, the poor, marginalized populations, the sick, and widows without expecting things in return. I’d assume a church like that would become popular or I wish it would. It’s disappointing that people get too excited about uniting as an angry force against people they think are their enemy.

[artdecades]

His comment on Jews makes no sense anyway. The concept of salvation is Christian. Jews aren't going to be talking about.

 

again, SALVATION IS NOT A JEWISH CONCEPT.

[candygirl200413]

Conservative/Protestant Christianity really hating basically any religion that isn't christianity and it's just so disgusting so I'm not surprised . Where he grew up (its north of where I grew up) gets very conservative so I'm not really surprised just forever disgusted. 

[Glasgowghirl]

Thanks Jeremy, demonic pagan is an improvement on some of the anti Catholic insults I've had thrown my way. 

[CaricatureQualities]

I learned about Monochorionic twins last summer. Well I think I did. I was visiting friends and got to meet their 2yo identical twin daughters. I found our they were a rare sort of twin...I'm not sure (can't remember) if they are mo-mo (meaning they shared a placenta and and amniotic sac and occurs in 1-2% of identical twins) or di-di identical twins (meaning they shared neither, which occurs in about a quarter of identical twins). I think they are mo-mo twins.  We were on the beach and my friend drew a lot of diagrams in the sand with a stick and said a lot about amniotic sacs but it was a day at the beach and I mostly understood but the science behind it all (even with the sand diagrams) went over my head and into the ocean mostly. (Then we made an epic sand castle!) I've consulted wikipedia for info and I'm pretty sure they are monochorionic/monoamniotic.

Anyway, when my friends met with the main specialist at the beginning of the pregnancy, the first thing the doctor did was look at them and say "I don't know if you have any illusions about having a home-birth but you will be having these babies in a hospital." End of story. They were not the type to go for a home-birth anyway but with the myriad of complications that could take place with the delivery they certainly wanted to be in a hospital surrounded by doctors... which is good because there were reportedly 20 people in that delivery room aside from the mom and dad and they were all medical specialists with a certain job, or to watch and record because it is a somewhat rare medical opportunity to learn from.

[GuineaPigCourtship]

Sort of off-topic, but back during the fall Mr GPC and I went to a pro football game and there were a TON of religious protesters outside with microphones, a few near every entrance.  They had big pro-Christianity posters and were yelling at us about our salvation but were clear that Catholicism was NOT okay, and of course I was eagerly paying attention.

Husband: Are we ever going to get into the game?  These people are weird.

Me: Look how much they hate Catholics! It's like they're trying to be a fundamentalist stereotype!

Husband: WTF are you talking about?

I'd be surprised if they converted anyone... after all, God was clearly on the side of us sinners since the home team won. 

[Nowyn]

11 hours ago, luv2laugh said:

WOW boy does he sure sound like a nut job! His charisma gives me Koresh vibes. If Jinger wasn’t always clad in pants, I’d be convinced these two got involved with a cult. Maybe they are....

They are but also I wouldn't be surprised if they founded their own. Jeremy doesn't seem like a follower. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

11 hours ago, luv2laugh said:

If Jinger wasn’t always clad in pants, I’d be convinced these two got involved with a cult.

The pants disguise is working!  They're just like us!

[eveandadam]

12 hours ago, VelociRapture said:

Jeremy is pretty much a more polished version of Derick - same hateful beliefs just wrapped up in some nicer clothes and more eloquent words. 

Its fine to think he and Jinger make a nice couple, are cute on social media, dress nice, etc. Just don’t lose sight that he’s a guy that is not tolerant of viewpoints and beliefs that don’t align with his own. And keep in mind that Jinger very likely believes the same. Maybe with time she’ll evolve her views, but right now she very likely believes the same hateful things as her husband, her BIL, and the rest of her family. 

x2! But I think they are a couple with a weird vibe. I'm glad Jinger is somewhat removed from her family and experiences new things, but thy give me the weird vibes.

[feministxtian]

Mother in laws...I hit the "jackpot"...ROFLMAO! His mother is a fucking racist lying bitch. She told her son that he needed to find someone "white" (I am 1/2 Latina). She jumped into some shit his sister started and LIED her ass off about me. The final nail in the coffin was when my husband talked to his aunt (his bio father's sister) and found out some truths. He confronted her with them and she held on to the lies. We, by choice, have no contact with her, his sister, his brother or his stepfather's family. They're all fucking nuts. On my side, my parents are dead. 

[IntrinsicallyDisordered]

On 03/03/2018 at 4:09 AM, PennySycamore said:

I know this is late to the discussion of who was at your births, but my mom AND my five year old daughter where there when my last baby was born.  My five year old told her kindergarten class that afternoon that she saw her mom have a baby that morning.

My siblings were all home births and one brother was born early in the morning on my first day of 6th grade.  I had seen everything (including a scarring moment when he came out blue) and had been the one to cut the cord.  My teacher went around the room asking what we had done on our summer vacations and I excitedly said my brother had been born at home that morning and I had cut the cord - she told me not to lie to the class.  I said I wasn't lying and she insisted I was.  Later she confirmed what happened with my mother and apologized to me, but of course not in front of any of my classmates   

[Seculardaisy]

On 3/2/2018 at 9:52 PM, AliceInFundyland said:

In all the birth related stories I read on FJ, I don't know that I've seen any of you mention this particular "unpleasantness." I'm kind of curious. I've heard that it's not uncommon to poop during delivery. Yes? No?

...Apologies for the squickiness of the question. 

I’ve had four kids. I pooped in labor the first time. The fourth time it made me a little gassy. 

Yay childbirth ha. 

[Chocolatecheesecake]

Hey, I have a bit of a random question about giving birth. Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread. Is it possible to listen to stuff with your headphones? I plan on having a child in about 3 years or so and I just started thinking about the whole thing a little more. I do horribly under pressure and in high stress situations. I  had some therapy for my fear of exams and giving birth kind of feels similar to me, it all comes down to that one moment, where everything is decided. What calms my nerves most is, if I can just concentrate on something else. As a child I had trouble falling asleep and there was a period of time where my brother smoked weed and stayed out all night and my mom would always cry and then yell at him when he got home. ( thankfully he has since turned into a productive member of society and wonderful brother) So whenever that happend I would listen to harry potter on tape with my headphones and I just completely drifted off from reality into hogwarts. To this day I still listen to harry potter when I'm struggeling with nerves, it helped really well when I had all of my wisdom teeth removed while being concious. So I guess the whole point of my question is: Can I listen to harry potter during labour, or will people need me to hear them giving me instructions all the time? 

[Seculardaisy]

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 PM, PennySycamore said:

I know this is late to the discussion of who was at your births, but my mom AND my five year old daughter where there when my last baby was born.  My five year old told her kindergarten class that afternoon that she saw her mom have a baby that morning.

My at the time (almost) three year old was in the car when her brother was born in it. She still has a few memories of it. It didn’t really phase her very much.

1 minute ago, Chocolatecheesecake said:

Hey, I have a bit of a random question about giving birth. Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread. Is it possible to listen to stuff with your headphones? I plan on having a child in about 3 years or so and I just started thinking about the whole thing a little more. I do horribly under pressure and in high stress situations. I  had some therapy for my fear of exams and giving birth kind of feels similar to me, it all comes down to that one moment, where everything is decided. What calms my nerves most is, if I can just concentrate on something else. As a child I had trouble falling asleep and there was a period of time where my brother smoked weed and stayed out all night and my mom would always cry and then yell at him when he got home. ( thankfully he has since turned into a productive member of society and wonderful brother) So whenever that happend I would listen to harry potter on tape with my headphones and I just completely drifted off from reality into hogwarts. To this day I still listen to harry potter when I'm struggeling with nerves, it helped really well when I had all of my wisdom teeth removed while being concious. So I guess the whole point of my question is: Can I listen to harry potter during labour, or will people need me to hear them giving me instructions all the time? 

You can definitely listen to headphones during labor. Especially if you pick a good practictioner whom gives you a lot of freedom to make decisions. Maybe look into a certified nurse midwife? They often give you more options during labor. I’m sure you could find a very friendly OB/GYN as well. Don’t be afraid to interview practitioners and visit multiple. Choose the one that you feel most comfortable with.

[VelociRapture]

49 minutes ago, Chocolatecheesecake said:

Hey, I have a bit of a random question about giving birth. Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread. Is it possible to listen to stuff with your headphones? I plan on having a child in about 3 years or so and I just started thinking about the whole thing a little more. I do horribly under pressure and in high stress situations. I  had some therapy for my fear of exams and giving birth kind of feels similar to me, it all comes down to that one moment, where everything is decided. What calms my nerves most is, if I can just concentrate on something else. As a child I had trouble falling asleep and there was a period of time where my brother smoked weed and stayed out all night and my mom would always cry and then yell at him when he got home. ( thankfully he has since turned into a productive member of society and wonderful brother) So whenever that happend I would listen to harry potter on tape with my headphones and I just completely drifted off from reality into hogwarts. To this day I still listen to harry potter when I'm struggeling with nerves, it helped really well when I had all of my wisdom teeth removed while being concious. So I guess the whole point of my question is: Can I listen to harry potter during labour, or will people need me to hear them giving me instructions all the time? 

No clue. This wasn’t something I had even thought about so it never occurred to me to ask. I think it sounds like a cool idea though and if it helps you relax or stay calm that’s the most important part. 

I would think it depends on your practitioner, hospital policy (if there is one for headphones during labor - I think it’d be a little odd if there was), and what type of labor/delivery you ultimately end up with. For instance, I had packed a book and Mad Libs in my bag, but I ended up laboring overnight so I just tried to sleep instead.

Your best bet would be to discuss it with your practitioner ahead of time. If it’s something extremely important to you and your practitioner isn’t ok with it then you may want to consider switching to a different practitioner. I don’t see why they’d have an issue with it because you could just keep the volume on the lower side or turn it off if needed (like when you’re pushing), but you never know and it’s best to check ahead of time.

[melon]

6 hours ago, feministxtian said:

Mother in laws...I hit the "jackpot"...ROFLMAO! His mother is a fucking racist lying bitch. She told her son that he needed to find someone "white" (I am 1/2 Latina). She jumped into some shit his sister started and LIED her ass off about me. The final nail in the coffin was when my husband talked to his aunt (his bio father's sister) and found out some truths. He confronted her with them and she held on to the lies. We, by choice, have no contact with her, his sister, his brother or his stepfather's family. They're all fucking nuts. On my side, my parents are dead. 

My mother in law wasn't quite that bad,but she insinuated that my oldest son wasn't my husband's child.She told me,I was 20,like Joy..as a first time mother...that I should consider sterilization.I seriously doubt I would have found my OB Gyn agreeable to do have done such a thing.Hell,he and the nurses etc tried to talk me out of it when I was 24,with 3 children.I tolerated her,and she tolerated me.We each believed the other to be ignorant.I never claimed to know everything,but I resented being treated like I was stupid.I had to put up with her being in the labor room with me,twice.She tried to get me to eat(they brought a meal) while in labor...when I refused...the last thing on my mind was food,she told me.."My son paid for it"She felt since she had 4 children she knew more than I did or ever would know.Even though she never had a girl,but she told me they were harder to raise.Well,if she never had one,how did she know???She did not breastfeed.She told me she did not have any milk,and that I would not have any milk,like her.She wanted me to believe that.And she was wrong.It didn't work out  the first time,due to my ignorance,I had milk.Then when,I nursed my two other sons,she told me:"he probably isn't getting anything" "Your milk has gone bad""You just nursed him two hours ago" etc etc.as well as "You need to give him a bottle, everyday".I tried to explain to her that my milk was easier to digest.She didn't believe me.When we came to visit,this was with my youngest she'd ask'Did you bring his milk?"My baby was almost exclusively breastfed.Then when said no..she start how I needed to give him a bottle everyday.I finally  said,"If, I did he may not want to nurse,if he get used to having bottles regularly,exactly what happened the my oldest.She claimed that would not happen.Yeah,right.She wanted that to happen...because of her jealousy.After I had my oldest son made it a point to tell me that her sister got to keep her grandson for a few weeks ,as a newborn,because her nephew's wife had an unplanned pregnancy and did not want the baby and could not look at him.Why would she tell me this??I never allowed her to keep any of my sons on a regular basis.When I did.I'd return to a baby that had not been changed,and was soaked through.It was my job to change him and clean him up if he threw up because she stuffed him with vanilla wafers...at 4 months old.I may not agree with someone,but I would at  least respect their wishes..she did not.

[llg1234]

Jinger's at the halfway point. I wonder if we're gonna get a sex announcement or if they're gonna keep it a secret. Did anyone else think the drawing of the artichoke looked like a hop?

 

[FundaMental]

She's actually starting to look pregnant now! She's carrying super high so I can see why she looks so small, but it's crazy to think there's a 20 week baby in there. Everyone carries differently obviously, but she still looks very small for the date. Hopefully that means she won't end up looking like she's got a giant tumour by the time she gives birth, like Joy did - I don't think I could handle seeing Jinger look like she's about to topple over cause she's got an 11lb baby in there.

I have a feeling they will reveal the gender. Or at least I'm hoping they do - the anticipation kills me every time.

[anjulibai]

19 hours ago, PennySycamore said:

@MoonFace,  I hope that someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that somewhere in the documents of the Second Vatican Council is a statement about how people who never been exposed to the Gospel, but who've tried to live a good, moral life might be saved.  (I"m perhaps not phrasing this quite right.)  I think the Anglican Church holds a similar view.

Yes, I believe that's true. from what I understand, in general, an unbeliever is more likely to get into heaven having led a moral life than a Christian having lived an immoral or amoral life (this includes hypocrites). 

[Shiny]

5 hours ago, Chocolatecheesecake said:

Hey, I have a bit of a random question about giving birth. Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread. Is it possible to listen to stuff with your headphones? I plan on having a child in about 3 years or so and I just started thinking about the whole thing a little more. I do horribly under pressure and in high stress situations. I  had some therapy for my fear of exams and giving birth kind of feels similar to me, it all comes down to that one moment, where everything is decided. What calms my nerves most is, if I can just concentrate on something else. As a child I had trouble falling asleep and there was a period of time where my brother smoked weed and stayed out all night and my mom would always cry and then yell at him when he got home. ( thankfully he has since turned into a productive member of society and wonderful brother) So whenever that happend I would listen to harry potter on tape with my headphones and I just completely drifted off from reality into hogwarts. To this day I still listen to harry potter when I'm struggeling with nerves, it helped really well when I had all of my wisdom teeth removed while being concious. So I guess the whole point of my question is: Can I listen to harry potter during labour, or will people need me to hear them giving me instructions all the time? 

Yes you can wear headphones. A little known secret to child birth....you can do whatever the hell you want. Birth is tricky for hospitals. Hospitals are places with highly trained people and equipment. They need standards and protocols. BUT your birth is yours. They may say "No ma'am, you may not give birth standing on your head while speaking in tongues", but you damn sure can. 

As far as headphones go- You can listen to whatever you want, but don't be surprised if you don't want to. With my last birth I had this awesome playlist, but as I actually got closer to giving birth I found it just annoyed ever nerve to listen to it. 

(You can also eat during birth...but that's a whole other rant!) 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

Terrible beliefs aside, her hair looks amazing in that picture.  Pregnancy is agreeing with her.