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Boyer Sisters Part 6: Two Left Limping Along

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thisjuststinks
8 hours ago, Jeronimo said:

I wonder if he’s married someone else by now.

A quick glance at the public bits of his Facebook show no evidence of that. 

Men aren’t *as* pressured to get married in these circles, which contributes to the image of the desperate husband hunting women. Men are free to do as they please while women must find a husband. Makes no sense. 

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catlady

am i imagining this, or was there a photo of him (maybe last year) working on exhibits at Ken Ham's Creation/Ark museums?

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28 minutes ago, catlady said:

am i imagining this, or was there a photo of him (maybe last year) working on exhibits at Ken Ham's Creation/Ark museums?

Not just photos, but also a live video of him working on the animal models at Ark Encounter! It's on his Facebook page from May, 2016. It seems like he travels a lot for various jobs. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why it didn't work out with Jessica. I'm sure she saw herself getting married, settling down and having kids, much like Brigid did. According to his adventures on FB, he doesn't seem like the settling down type.

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charmedforsure

Today's Insta story includes using Young Living Oregano oil (retail $37.50, wholesale $28.50) on your feet. Charlotte doesn't tell you that you need to dilute it in order to make it skin safe, just that you can contact her to get it!

The story includes previews of their rebranding efforts. They're attempting to look casual, when in fact, they are carefully curating their look, which is the complete opposite of casual. 

Also, Jessica owns a massage table. Gotta wonder if she's practicing the "Raindrop Technique" (proprietary Young Living shiz that steals from New Age Reiki and prides itself that an actual, real live Native American helped develop it) or might actually have an interest in becoming a licensed massage therapist. If it's the latter, I seriously support those efforts. If it's becoming a "Certified Raindrop Technique Specialist" and "Licensed Spiritual Healer", I hope she has a sudden realization that this is just a money scam and gets out before she sinks too much time and money into this bunkum. (By the way, the Raindrop Technique Essential Oil Collection rings up at $182.57 retail, $138.75 wholesale. What a nice way to pad their upline's wallet...)

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FiddleDD

A few years back I was enrolled in aromatherapy and herbalism classes from a school that actually focuses on science (I know, shocking). I really enjoyed it, but the more I learned about safety and potential dangers (especially when it comes to EOs) that I lost my joy. It’s unendingly frustrating when you know something is dangerous, why it’s dangerous, and NO ONE CARES.

The MLM companies are the worst, what with all their “therapeutic grade” nonsense and refusing to even make their salesminions pretend to dilute oils. 

The “Raindrop Technique”? Highly toxic and unsafe. And as for pricing, I wouldn’t spend more than $15 MAX for Oregano EO.

ETA to clarify: I was learning the right way to use herbs and eos, but the more I learned the more I realized 95% of the natural health community both online and off was ignoring basic precautions. I had trouble having to rub elbows with people who ignored the simple guidelines that will keep people safe.

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Jeronimo

It’s so funny that they have ZERO evidence that overpriced and possibly poisonous oragano oil does anything whatsoever. Nothing. Charlotte just says it enables you to enjoy vibrant health. 

What!? That makes no sense. I’m still perplexed by Jessica’s angry liver.

What is Jessica doing with a massage table?

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Briefly
On 2/6/2018 at 4:27 PM, catlady said:

so maybe my left kneecap gets angry at me and thus dislocates itself.  yeah, that's it; i'll just keep saying that my patellae store anger and that the solution is Diet Pepsi Essential Oil.  yeah, peppermint oil will keep that little bugger in place on the front of my knee joint.  problem solved!  

how do i get this information to the Journal of the AMA?

ETA:  my real anger goes away just fine by dropping a few hearty F-bombs now and then.  works for me, anyway.

I have a really bad left knee. I often say it's mad at me, but I'm pretty sure it's just a part of my body and that it doesn't really think or feel anger!  Just pain. :)

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catlady

@Briefly, I actually have problems with both, but the left one is worse. When it pops out, it’s harder to get it back in than the right side. Good times. 

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charmedforsure

I'm underwhelmed by B.Well's apparent rebranding. Charlotte recolored the logo, decided to take new casual promo shots of herself and Jessica while adding some warm filter in Photoshop, and are now pimping the shit out of their love for Jesus. Their approach of trying to be gurus for all things healthy living sends a huge holier-than-thou brick right through your front window. 

Oh, and you can't forget the essential oil biz being pushed front and center, complete with a misinterpreted income statement, showing you don't make any real money from this business unless you're at the tip-top of the pyramid. Wonder if they've had a push from their upline to recruit, recruit, recruit! if they themselves want to move up a level or two...

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acheronbeach

You know, if they'd started their own wellness brand - separate from Young Living's sad-soccer-mom pyramid-scheme - I think they could've had a good shot at success.  Think GOOP for the Christian maiden market.  Their photos are pretty and they are well versed in woo mumbo-jumbo verbiage.

As it is, the focus on YL will always keep them financially strapped and unsuccessful.  I've explained why before; the price point is unsustainable for their teen market and Christian families will likely already have a YL Lady family friend.  Plus, what younger person is going to be super  enthusiastic with the brand their mom loves? 

It was an ill-considered business idea from the outset.

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Kariina
6 hours ago, charmedforsure said:

I'm underwhelmed by B.Well's apparent rebranding. Charlotte recolored the logo, decided to take new casual promo shots of herself and Jessica while adding some warm filter in Photoshop, and are now pimping the shit out of their love for Jesus. Their approach of trying to be gurus for all things healthy living sends a huge holier-than-thou brick right through your front window. 

Oh, and you can't forget the essential oil biz being pushed front and center, complete with a misinterpreted income statement, showing you don't make any real money from this business unless you're at the tip-top of the pyramid. Wonder if they've had a push from their upline to recruit, recruit, recruit! if they themselves want to move up a level or two...

The meta-hype about the rebranding itself is also just ridiculous. They've only got a few hundred followers on Instagram and even less engagement on Facebook. Acting like they've got the entire world's eyes on them waiting to break into applause for a font change and new photos of themselves on a couch...vanity aside, it doesn't help their case that they're productively occupied and fulfilled as SAHDs.

I guess maybe an element of their weird social media behavior is "dressing for the job they want." Charlotte has some savvy in design and internet marketing. But I'm put off by the try-hard and infantile copy writing; it detracts from any impression that they see readers/customers as discerning individuals rather than a marketing demographic...or potential MLM underlings. A good marketing strategy will at least be able to mask that.

I guess it makes sense, though. They have to fleece their peers and rely on giving the impression of being everyone's New Best Friends in order to maintain their "startup," but they themselves aren't worldly enough to even understand how untenable their fad-based snake-oil model is. 

I understand it's Charlotte flexing her graphic design and marketing muscles just for the sake of doing something, but would that she could put it to more honest use.

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Carm_88

I don't think they were that excited about B Well in the beginning, they just wanted to do something different. Well, it's flopped. Please find something else! :P 

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Jhamishwat
14 hours ago, charmedforsure said:

I'm underwhelmed by B.Well's apparent rebranding. Charlotte recolored the logo, decided to take new casual promo shots of herself and Jessica while adding some warm filter in Photoshop, and are now pimping the shit out of their love for Jesus. Their approach of trying to be gurus for all things healthy living sends a huge holier-than-thou brick right through your front window.

Gosh, that angle annoys me...the way they phrase it, I don't know if they mean it to come across this way, but it's basically saying that you're not taking care of your "temple" if you don't use oils. I'm a Christian, I read the Bible daily, and I have yet to come across a passage where it says "Thou shalt spread oregano oil on your feet to stop your angry liver."

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catlady

for all their "we don't do yoga anymore" hooey, one of the photos on the b.well site shows one of them in what looks like a variant of the warrior pose.  i'm surprised they didn't pull that one during the rebranding.

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Jhamishwat

Uhhhh....on their b.well Insta they're saying they use oils around their dog. They say to Google the issues with dogs and air fresheners. Yes, there are issues, but you can Google just as many issues with dogs and essential oils, especially vaporized ones. Have they spoken to their poor pup's vet???

Also, Jessica made a post about not using mascara anymore because she's not able to find a natural alternative (fair enough), and someone commented that she (the commenter) uses a mainstream mascara, and Jessica replied with "Don't be so hard on yourself, we're all on a journey." Or, what it sounded like to me, "Don't worry, someday you'll be as enlightened as me."

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Kariina
6 hours ago, Jhamishwat said:

Also, Jessica made a post about not using mascara anymore because she's not able to find a natural alternative (fair enough)

I found this post so strange. Some people absolutely do have sensitive eyes so mascara choice is difficult, but as far as ingredients themselves, it's one of the simpler cosmetics. It's really not hard to find a "natural" one. 

Although I suppose guess it depends on how you interpret "natural."  I don't know what the heck they're looking for when they look at a label -- they seem vulnerable to buying into conspiracies, not understanding the concept of ppm and safe dosages, and being afraid of long chemical names.

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Jhamishwat
2 hours ago, Kariina said:

I found this post so strange. Some people absolutely do have sensitive eyes so mascara choice is difficult, but as far as ingredients themselves, it's one of the simpler cosmetics. It's really not hard to find a "natural" one. 

Although I suppose guess it depends on how you interpret "natural."  I don't know what the heck they're looking for when they look at a label -- they seem vulnerable to buying into conspiracies, not understanding the concept of ppm and safe dosages, and being afraid of long chemical names.

It's true that it depends on what you think is bad (she also claimed it has bat poop in it, which is something that's been debunked by Snopes).  I myself have sensitive eyes and use Physicians Formula mascara. I did go through a few "natural" mascaras, but like her post does mention, they usually don't have the same staying power. Physicians Formula works ok, though not as good as my old mascaras (back when I thought it was normal to have itchy eyes from makeup haha).

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Carm_88

Mascara is tough. I don't have sensitive eyes but sometimes, it just makes my eyelashes super heavy. Natural mascara is fairly easy to find. Jessica just wants to be superior. Well la-dee-dah, excuse me! :P 

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December
4 hours ago, Kariina said:

Some people absolutely do have sensitive eyes so mascara choice is difficult, but as far as ingredients themselves, it's one of the simpler cosmetics. It's really not hard to find a "natural" one. 

That was my thought, too. There's such a huge emphasis on "natural" cosmetics in many brands today, even drugstore ones. I know terms like "natural" are subjective, but there's still a wide variety out there. 

18 hours ago, catlady said:

for all their "we don't do yoga anymore" hooey, one of the photos on the b.well site shows one of them in what looks like a variant of the warrior pose.  i'm surprised they didn't pull that one during the rebranding.

Could be a similar movement in something like Pilates that doesn't have the spiritual aspects of yoga? 

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singsingsing

They have no idea what they're talking about. God only knows what they think 'natural' means. These are the same people who think that microwaving food turns it into something that isn't food anymore. 

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KnittingOwl
1 hour ago, December said:

Could be a similar movement in something like Pilates that doesn't have the spiritual aspects of yoga? 

Didn’t they replace heathen yoga with some Christian variant that is “scripture based”? I think it’s Praise Moves. 

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Jhamishwat
1 hour ago, KnittingOwl said:

Didn’t they replace heathen yoga with some Christian variant that is “scripture based”? I think it’s Praise Moves. 

Hahaha that's ridiculous. 

 

I don't even really get what the big deal with yoga is, in terms of being non Christian? Are they only thinking of the variant that is based in Hindi? Or are there other origins? Forgive my ignorance on the matter...

I've taken yoga classes, they only ever say things like "listen to your body" and "meditate on your day" etc. Etc. The Bible says to meditate on the Lord--meditation isn't this automatic secular thing. 

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FiddleDD

Natural mascara’s simple. Coconut oil and activated charcoal. I never tried it so it might suck*, but I remember that from my “ultra natural” days. You just need a mascara wand. 

 

*The Pinterest gods tell me it’s better than regular mascara. LOL

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Grimalkin

     Just as well that the holy union with Levi fell through. I cringe at the thought of her raising a child. Angry livers indeed.  I know I sound cruel. They look like they are in their forties in those photos too. Attractive and healthy forties, but not young and vibrant.

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SolomonFundy

House Boyer: We Are Easily Led

 

So... to recap the Boyer experience, Ma and Pa Boyer fell into a new church about 10 years ago, and decided to go along with the tasty new preaching since they apparently didn't have enough of an identity to resist being drawn into a fucking cult. Even after leaving town, church, and old friends behind a few years ago, they still have no idea what they want, but happily have dragged three daughters along their path of self-righteous bullshittery. Daughters grow up in body only; mind and general sense of personal awareness remains at about whatever age they were when Ma and Pa became fundylite.

Brigid was into vintage, sewing, and singing, so the other two went along with it because attention!, and then got bored because work!, and gave it up entirely when Brigid married. So that's not their identity anymore.

Then, they rebranded the Boyers Sisters blog, but that wasn't enough of a new identity, so they started a whole NEW blog to fritter away their copious free time. Ma Boyer apparently couldn't afford her menopause hormones anymore, so she started taking badger essence or whatever since it's so much more "natural" to coat yourself in oil bottled by an unregulated factory than it is to take medicine prescribed by a doctor. Then the entire female contingent of the Boyer household got sucked into a MLM because they can be talked into literally anything by anyone.

Then Charlotte and Jessica neglected both blogs, because they realized (within weeks?) that neither really fit into their Whole New Lives™. Then they rebranded the BS blog (lol) and launched a post by Charlotte featuring her Brand New Look, which was retconned a month later when they updated the bwell blog to feature her NEW New Look, which she figured out was her REAL look since a retirement-age woman sold her on a pre-packaged set of generic personality traits on the basis of a paid internet quiz.

Then, they happily blogged about how their NEW Whole New Lives™ was perfect and fulfilling! But then, an hour later, a random commenter linked them to a tinfoil hat post on a wackadoo website, so their whole family immediately quit worshipping satan doing yoga because they can also be talked out of literally anything by anyone.

And now they've rebranded bwell again.

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