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20 hours ago, warriorblade8857 said:

@candygirl200413, @GrumpyGran: There's always room in the patriarchy for the "right kind of woman" (aka one that squishes herself into the pre-approved, teeny-tiny box and never sticks a toe outside of it). Along those same lines, there's always room in the xenophobic society for the "right kind of immigrant".

 Watching Sarah Huckabee Sanders pop up out of her "good conservative woman" box to explain why defending patriotism requires calling black men's mothers bitches, gave me alternating waves of anger, revulsion, and sadness. I've tried to go easy on her in the past, because growing up with Mike Huckabee has got to be a soul-killing experience for anyone, but she's old enough to know better by now. 

 

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With the whole WH press team, I have no respect. (Most of the WH included but that's a whole other matter.) But when it comes to them in particular, whenever someone asks me to go easy on them, I can't. I'm in the same field as they are and they've fucked up on so many of the easiest things. Do your job and do it well. That has nothing to do with your party line. And you can be a good, responsible, ethical adult aside from whatever hand you were dealt as a child or as an adult. You're right, Cartmann99- she's old enough to know better. And at the very least that was a stupid pressroom blunder even if she did think it was ethically ok.

On topic: I found the pants and suit dizzying. I wonder if PH had a bit of vertigo next to her? I'm glad she's at least involved with Invictus. Props that she honors vets. I appreciate that as an AF family.

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14 hours ago, FundieFarmer said:

I'm glad she's at least involved with Invictus. Props that she honors vets. I appreciate that as an AF family.

I see it as her finally having some intelligent advice coming her way. From where, I can't imagine. And also having enough sense herself to realize she may have to carve out a reputation much different than his. Someone's telling her what is popular with the real masses and what was successful in the past. Hence the garden suddenly, Invictus, children's hospitals. She doesn't seem to give a hoot for what Dumpy's base would want(Christian leadership conferences, conservative panels, etc.)

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It amuses me endlessly to hear TH women hold Ivanka up as a paragon of fashion (better than Paree designers even) and Melania as a paragon of family values.  Sorry ladies Michelle Obama dresses gorgeously and is a doting mom and actually gets along with her husband.  

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Shut up Melania. If you want to speak out against bulling you should start with the mirror and your own damn husband. 

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10 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

Shut up Melania. If you want to speak out against bulling you should start with the mirror and your own damn husband. 

I give her points for trying but she really has to let go of this bullying thing. She should pick up a illness that effects children and go visit hospital pediatric wards, she seems to be able to handle that well. I'm starting to think she's trying to talk to us in code. "We must stop bullying. Please stop the bullying. I can't take it anymore!"

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She could cut down on the bullying by a huge amount using two rolls of duct tape. One for her husband's trap, the other for his tiny fingers. The first is so he can't speak, and the second is so he can't tweet.

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I just wished someone played her video talking about peddeling her husband's lies about President Obama. She's a damn bully herself!

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14 hours ago, WiseGirl said:

Brilliant work by the reporter, but it also made me shake my head and wonder how the fuck he got elected. I mean besides Russia's help.....

He was elected by people afraid of change, afraid of losing their privileged status, and not willing to work hard enough or make the needed sacrifices to get a good job.  He spun fairy tales about bringing back dead industries that required no skill or education to perform.  He told them these jobs would pay handsomely.  He verified their belief that where they are in life isn't the result of their lack of work ethic or inability to keep up with a fast changing world, but that it's a result of scary brown people stealing their jobs.  He told them they were the only true Americans because their skin was lily white, they loved the correct people, and worshipped the right way and how dare those "others" think they deserve the same rights and respect.  He played into their unfounded fears and desperation.  Nevermind that it was all a lie.  That he never intended to do any of it either because he couldn't (which anyone with a brain knew) or just didn't give a rat's ass.  He told them what they wanted to hear however far from reality it was.  That is how he got elected.

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2 hours ago, Childless said:

He was elected by people afraid of change, afraid of losing their privileged status, and not willing to work hard enough or make the needed sacrifices to get a good job.  He spun fairy tales about bringing back dead industries that required no skill or education to perform.  He told them these jobs would pay handsomely.  He verified their belief that where they are in life isn't the result of their lack of work ethic or inability to keep up with a fast changing world, but that it's a result of scary brown people stealing their jobs.  He told them they were the only true Americans because their skin was lily white, they loved the correct people, and worshipped the right way and how dare those "others" think they deserve the same rights and respect.  He played into their unfounded fears and desperation.  Nevermind that it was all a lie.  That he never intended to do any of it either because he couldn't (which anyone with a brain knew) or just didn't give a rat's ass.  He told them what they wanted to hear however far from reality it was.  That is how he got elected.

Some - even a lot of this - is correct IMO. I also believe that there was very significant amount of appealing to the "least common denominator", i.e. encouraging the very worst characteristics of humanity.

However - and I am a big believer in "my side" being correct and truthful - while there are a number of supporters that fit - I (unfortunately) know MANY supporters who have been hard workers all their lives, etc, etc. While I agree that there are plenty of supporters who fit right in the "basket of deplorables" - there is a significant portion of hard workers who IMO were just deceived.

I also know a few true conservatives who chose their vote with the priority of the long-time effect of a conservative Supreme Court. (These IMO forgot they made a bargain with a devil).

And a few who were born, so to speak, with a big R tattoed on their foreheads (all else be ignored). La-la-la-la-la I can't hear you, fingers in their ears, so to speak.

If you follow my posts here over time, you KNOW I absolutely cannot stand Trump. But I try to be truthful and not to use too broad a brush.

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23 minutes ago, apple1 said:

Some - even a lot of this - is correct IMO. I also believe that there was very significant amount of appealing to the "least common denominator", i.e. encouraging the very worst characteristics of humanity.

However - and I am a big believer in "my side" being correct and truthful - while there are a number of supporters that fit - I (unfortunately) know MANY supporters who have been hard workers all their lives, etc, etc. While I agree that there are plenty of supporters who fit right in the "basket of deplorables" - there is a significant portion of hard workers who IMO were just deceived.

I also know a few true conservatives who chose their vote with the priority of the long-time effect of a conservative Supreme Court. (These IMO forgot they made a bargain with a devil).

And a few who were born, so to speak, with a big R tattoed on their foreheads (all else be ignored). La-la-la-la-la I can't hear you, fingers in their ears, so to speak.

If you follow my posts here over time, you KNOW I absolutely cannot stand Trump. But I try to be truthful and not to use too broad a brush.

@apple1, I must quote your post in it entirety or FJ will force me to quote some other random post. I do enjoy your posts and respect your opinions. But I feel those who were deceived should have figured it out by now. And I have little sympathy for those who mindlessly follow the same path without consideration for the outcome. Just as I have little sympathy for those who could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary because they were upset at some small aspect of her past or presentation. There were bigger things at stake and if you can't manage thoughtful consideration of the issues before you vote, perhaps you should just stay out of it and take what comes your way.

I do believe there are many on the right who are now victims of social pressure. It is difficult to speak up in your social group if you feel you will be shunned, or worse publicly criticized. I hope there are many who, if they feel they must remain quiet, will at least speak with their vote in 2018.

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All the people who voted for him were able to overlook open racism, sexism and hate. They decided that they were okay with having a sexist, racist, hate filled president who might give them some conservative thing. They decided they didn't care about the damage his racism, sexism and hate would do as long as they had a chance to get what they wanted. 

I can't find a lot of sympathy for people who voted for him. Even if they didn't vote for him because he is racist and sexist, they apparently didn't think those things were that big of a deal. 

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Don't get me wrong, I am in no way supporting or excusing their choice. I AM trying to understand people on a level deeper than I'm-good-you're-horrible.

Just my thoughts.

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People seem to forget that conservatives had more than just Clinton and Trump to choose from (and I'm not talking about third party candidates).  There were 17 Republican primary candidates.  And yet they chose Trump.

And yes, nearly every person who voted for Trump did so out of fear.  Fear of a changing world.  Fear of the "other".  Even those who voted because of a SCOTUS opening.  They wanted a justice who would try and stop change or punish the non-WASPs in this country.  Jokes on them though because no one can stop progress and turn back time.  And unless they can convince their fellow Caucasian Christians to increase their breeding pace, they can't stop the coming demographic changes either.  So they had better accept it and learn to adapt or they're going to be left behind.  Trump does not have the power (or desire) to save them.  I don't care if that's not what they want to hear.  It's reality.

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Just FTR - Ohioans overwhelmingly voted Kasich in the Republican primary. Unfortunately, this did not carry over into other states. And also unfortunately, too many Ohioans (I am an Ohioan; definitely not me) voted with the big R in November.

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Most of the true conservatives I know voted for Evan McMullen. Even though I don't agree with their choice, it was a way to push for their conservative values without voting for Agent Orange. And a vote for McMullen was a vote denied to the TT.

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44 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

Most of the true conservatives I know voted for Evan McMullen. Even though I don't agree with their choice, it was a way to push for their conservative values without voting for Agent Orange. And a vote for McMullen was a vote denied to the TT.

This election was a wakeup call for third party and none of the above voters on the right.  Their former side is totally repugnant and the left is totally unwelcoming.   At least that is the impression most people are coming away with.  The stopping point is abortion on both sides.  The right is pro life and the left is pro PP to a woman.  Although a lot of never trump folks are  looking at the now open and blatant racism, sexism and of course homophobia in the GOP with horror and disgust.  

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To me it is becoming more apparent that there is and was a bigger snow job going on here. Let's see, how to get someone completely un-electable into the presidency. Attach him to an unhinged, incompetent buffoon who is likely to hang himself with his own words. If you have lots of money to spread around, you have your minions wait until the time is right and then poof! A man no one would have voted for is president! Your man.

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6 hours ago, GrumpyGran said:

@apple1, I must quote your post in it entirety or FJ will force me to quote some other random post.

I'm able to trim posts that I'm replying to.  But I try to always post from my table top computer.  Is it different for people posting from phones or other devices?

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20 minutes ago, Flossie said:

I'm able to trim posts that I'm replying to.  But I try to always post from my table top computer.  Is it different for people posting from phones or other devices?

I'll try to figure that out. Sometimes when I don't particularly want to quote anyone, random posts pop up before where I will type in mine. I can usually figure out how to get rid of all of it but sometimes I'm just tired or lazy.

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2 hours ago, GrumpyGran said:

To me it is becoming more apparent that there is and was a bigger snow job going on here. Let's see, how to get someone completely un-electable into the presidency. Attach him to an unhinged, incompetent buffoon who is likely to hang himself with his own words. If you have lots of money to spread around, you have your minions wait until the time is right and then poof! A man no one would have voted for is president! Your man.

Yes, this.  I think this was the Republican establishment's plan all along.  They knew Trump would do something impeachable (after all he's spent the better part of his life showing no particular proclivity for following the rule of law).  They knew if they gave him enough rope, he would hang himself.

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1 hour ago, Childless said:

Yes, this.  I think this was the Republican establishment's plan all along.  They knew Trump would do something impeachable (after all he's spent the better part of his life showing no particular proclivity for following the rule of law).  They knew if they gave him enough rope, he would hang himself.

I’m thinking they didn’t realize just how much rope they would need. By this point, their guy has the longest beck in history!

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3 minutes ago, AnywhereButHere said:

I’m thinking they didn’t realize just how much rope they would need. By this point, their guy has the longest beck in history!

And as awful as it is, I consider this a good thing.

Trump is a horrible human being in pretty much every way possible. But he’s a pretty ineffective leader. He can’t get stuff passed in Congress because he’s such a massive dick, other world leaders seem to have no issues manipulating him, abd the only thing he seems capable of is wasting money on golfing trips and signing executive orders. 

Pence, on the other hand, is a hardened politician. He knows how Washington works and he has allies there. He has just enough charisma and professionalism to come across as Presidential and he doesn’t waste time on stupid Twitter fights. Pence as Vice President is bad enough, but Pence as President? He could do some serious damage.

I hope Trump lasts a bit longer. I hope the impeachment process doesn’t start until the spring. The closer to the midterm elections we are before he hopefully ends up resigning or being forced from office the better. Even if the Dems don’t take back Congress, Pence would only have two years to fuck things up and part of that would likely be spent on the Presidential election.

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