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Josh, Anna and the Ms 14: Another arrow for the quiver

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Iokaste

@seasonsoflife

Can't figure out how to quote directly from another thread, so just copying in your question...

"I get the Isabella, Natascha thing, but...Victoria? Daniel? Those are very classic names were I come from.

And its funny because here Astrid is as tacky as it gets. "


Victoria sounding lower class has to do with "aspirational" sounding names. Here in Denmark at least (perhaps other Scandis can chip in on Norway and Sweden?), as soon as the Royal family uses a name the "16 and pregnant"-crowd will throw a lot of love at it and so the status devalues. 
The Crown Prince and his brother has children named Christian (heir to the throne, so that was almost a given), Isabella, Vincent and Josephine and Nikolai (only neutral of the bunch), Felix, Henrik (old man's name, named for their father) and Athena. 

Daniel to me is a very neutral name.

It tends to go that the financial upper class and the working class love the same names, the creative class distances it self from those and the regular middle class will be more traditional and about 10 years after the "creatives" in naming trends. 

I find it fascinating that all languages has these divisions, but they are one of the hardest thing to explain or pick up on as a foreigner.

And Astrid being tacky really surprises me, where would that be? 

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M Kid Number 5 Birth Pool

Names:

Andrew Matthew- lexiloumarie

Gabriel- Mela99

Gabriel Matthew- shock928 (wildcard)

James Alexander Malcolm Mackynzie- AuntCloud

James Robert “Little Jim Bob”- Mela99

Joshua James Duggar Jr- mrs

Luke Seventeenfour- TuringMachine

Macavity- Palimpsest

Maccabee Joshua- Lurker

Machiah- aprilx(2)

Machias- Lizzybet

Machiavelli- onekidanddone

Macklin- justmy2cents

Macon- IReallyAmHopewell(4)

Madison Ashley-  Glasgowghril, twoanddone

Maddox- ihaveanexamintwodays, flycat

Maddox Joshua- snickerz

Magruder- Georgiana

Major Joshua- Nice Pair

Makepeace-Snarkangel Gabriel

Malachi- singsingsing, clueless, mango_fandango, bananabread, aprilx, IReallyAmHopewell(2), Dr. Fundie Stalker

Malachi Daniel- WiseGirl

Malachi Joshua- MayMay1123

Malachi Judah- GoddessOfVictory

Malachi Nathaniel- eveandadam

Malachi Robert- Dogalog

Malakai Joshua- Million Children for Jesus (1)

Malcolm- ihaveaneamintwodays, Gillyweed

Malcolm Garrett- Taylurker

Malcolm Joshua- SassyPants

Malcolm Reynolds- tabitha2 (You can’t take the sky from him! :D )

Manahethites- Knight of Ni

Manasseh Joshua- hollyandivy

Mannis- MadeItOut(1)

Manuel Christopher- freshlemonade

Mark- TeamDeFraudinSquad

Mark David- PainfullyAware

Mark Isaiah- tsukinokawa

Marmaduke JimBob- SapphireSlytherin

Marshall Joshua- Berty K

Martin- singsingsing (wildcard), VelociRapture(3), albanuadh_1(2)

Martin James- Markie, Melissa1977

Martin Luther the King- WhoompThereItIs

Martin Robert- Kelsey (2)

Marvin- Greendoor

Martyn- MadeItOut(2)

Martyn Luther- meee

Mason- Markie(3), ihaveanexamintwodays, singsingsing, VelociRapture (1), nickelodeon, MayTheWilberforceBeWithYou, IReallyAmHopewell(3)

Mason Alexander- Pinkdrink

Mason Daniel- Rachel333

Mason James- Berta McGee

Mason Joshua- pook, Jatalie1996 JDuggs          

Mason Robert- Kelsey, HRM1216 (2), mysteriablue

Mathias Joshua- wikinggirl, Ding Dong Duggar

Mathias Robert- Nefernandes15

Mathius Joshua- Indigo

Matthias- KelseyAnn

Matthias Daniel- tabitha2

Matthew- Markie(2), singsingsing, HarleyQuinn, albanuadh_1(1), JordynDarby5, Daisy0322, frugalitymom, AlwaysExcited, TeamDefraudinSquad(2), IReallyAmHopewell (1), JMO, ihaveanexamintwodays, GnomeCat, sorchah

Matthew Aaron- Nashville92

Matthew Adam- Karam

Matthew Andrew- lexiloumarie

Matthew Asher- Chewing Gum

Matthew Caleb- Million Children For Jesus(1)

Matthew Christopher- VineHeart137

Matthew Daniel- Kimichaels147

Matthew David- VixenToast, FrozenSmile, singsingsing, BlessaYourHeart

Matthew Dobson- Dandruff

Matthew Hosea- The Wanderer

Matthew Ian- Kjaerringa

Matthew Isaac- Escadora

Matthew Isaiah- SorenaJ, anaandrade, sadiZ

Matthew Jacob- Sydney Fox

Matthew James- sadiZ, VeryNikeSeamstress, ChunkyBarbie, Kaylo

Matthew John- NewSeasonOfLife

Matthew Joseph- RhythmicSkater

Matthew Joshua- JermajestyDuggar, anjulibai, Glasgowghirl, jerkit, viii, HRM1216. TuringMachine, Phoenix, kachuu, albireo, Chicken bones, JPickleDuggar, CarrotCake, justmurrayed, ThunderRolls, breakfree, [email protected], Hollywood, ViolaSebastian, meee

Matthew Lazarus- gilora

Matthew Lee- RosyDaisy

Matthew Keller- purjolok84

Matthew Micah- ExposedKnees

Matthew Noah- Miggy

Matthew Paul- AlwaysExcited (1), JoyfulSel

Matthew Rene- purjolok84(1)

Matthew Robert- marmalade, VelociRapture, mango_fandango, adidas, season of life, AlwaysExcited(2)

Matthew Thomas- Fluffypaws

Matthew Zachary- Million Children For Jesus (3), Wenny

Maudlin Gene- sansan

Maurice Luke- Teacup

Maxon James- Chicken bones

Maverick- Honeysuckle

Max- onekidanddone

Max Joshua- snickerz

Maxwell Joshua- MotherOfDragons, Rowan, Cheetah

Maxwell Robert- Glasgowghirl  

McGonagall- SeekingAdventure

Mea Culpa- CinnaJen

Megatron- MadeItOut(3)

Melchizedek- Audrey2

Melvin Issac- itqitc

Mepibostheth- Audrey2

Mephistopheles Rufus- uber frau            

Mercury Fred- SeekingAdventure

Meriwether Forgiven- prayawaythefundie

Merrick John- Quiver Full of Kittens

Meshach- KnittingOwl

Messiah Joshua- Jane M., mstee

Metatron- MadeItOut(3 actually but I’m leaving Megatron because it tickles my funny bone! :P )

Methuselah- Audrey2

Micah- KelseyAnn (2), candygirl200413, Fluffy14

Micah Daniel- Jenn The Heathen

Micah Keller- Ms Lucy Fur

Micah Matthew- shock928

Micah Justice- SadieJane

Miles- singsingsing (wildcard), JoyJoy, Snarkle Motion

Miles Gabriel- Suz8710

Milo-  So-Virgin-It-Hurts

Mingus- TeddyBonkers

Mitchell- IREallyAmHopewell(5)

Mitchell Joshua- Kangaroo

Mitchell Robert- Gobsmacked

Mobert Mame- Pasta

Money Redemption- HideousGreenShirt

Monroe Joshua- jegfile

Morgan Clement- habert

Morgan Freeman- dpndetfarm

Mortimer Chance- Hortense Peyrac

Mortimer Tobias- ChickenettiLuvr

Moses- Carm_88, VelociRapture (2), Georgiana

Moses James Robert- Lillybee

Moses John- BeccaGrim

Moses Joshua- pamplemousse

Moshe Joshua- OyToTheVey, Jaedzia,

Myles- SunnySideUp

Myles David- InTheNameOfRufus

Myles Joshua- TeaGrannie

Nathaniel Daniel- MissKnowItAll

Phoenix Robert- neurogirl

Robert- Bad Wolf

William Matthew- NeverBeenKissed

William Zachery- MissKnowItAll

 

Date:

July 19th- season of life

July 20th- AlwaysExcited

July 21st- Miggy

July 24th- NewSeasonOfLife

July 25th- eveandadam, hollyandivy

July 27th- Fluffypaws, jegfile

July 28th- Million Children For Jesus, CinnaJen

July 29th- Taylurker

July 30th- Quiver Full of Kittens, Chicken bones

July 31st- Vixen Toast, kachuu, Berta McGee

August 1st- The Wanderer, tabitha2, BeccaGrim

August 2nd- habert, adidas, Honeysuckle, ExposedKnees, SassyPants, flycat, sadiZ

August 3rd- Jatalie1996, MayMay112, OyToTheVey, GoddessOfVictory

August 4th- Kelsey, wikinggirl, ihaveanexamintwodays

August 5th- sadiZ, Hortense Peyrac, JoyJoy, meee

August 6th- JMO, SadieJane

Late Night August 5th/Early August 6th- VeryNikeSeamstress

Late Night August 6th/Early August 7th- MadeItOut

August 7th- Markie, freshlemonade, Daisy0322, WiseGirl, Jaedzia, Rowan

August 8th- JDuggs, Gobsmacked, viii, pook (2:11am), TuringMachine, candygirl200413, Sydney Fox, Ding Dong Duggar, Berty K, pamplemousse, Indigo, mstee

August 9th- aprilx, RosyDaisy, gilora

August 10th- anaandrade, Lurker, TeamDefraudinSquad, TeaGrannie, Pinkdrink, JPickleDuggar, Nashville92, hollywood

August 11th- JordynDarby5, Gillyweed, TeamDefraudinSquad, Jane M, Justmurrayed

August 12th- neurogirl, Kaylo, CarrotCake, [email protected], hollywood

August 13th- MissKnowItAll, Suz8710, praythefundieaway (at night during a mighty thunderstorm), VineHeart137, mysteriablue, JMO

August 14th- JermajestyDuggar, Lizzybet

August 15th- itqitc, So-Virgin-It-Hurts, albanuadh_1, SapphireSlytherin, Nice Pair

August 16th- HRM1216, Daisy0322, Palimpsest

August 17th- Bad Wolf

August 18th- dpndetfarm

August 19th- Rachel333, SorenaJ, ChunkyBarbie, uber frau, justmy2cents

August 20th- Phoenix

August 21st at 2am- KelseyAnn, Cheetah, Buzzard (2:20pm), snickerz

August 22nd- Carm_88

August 23rd- breakfree

August 24th- MayTheWilberforceBeWithYou

August 25th- InTheNameOfRufus

August 27th- tsukinokawa

August 28th- anjulibai, Snarkle Motion, candygirl200413, MadeItOut

August 29th- Mela99

September 1st- JoyfulSel, Nefernandes15

September 2nd- ThunderRolls, WhoompThereItIs(3:59pm)

September 3rd- Chewing Gum, singsingsing

September 4th- anaandrade

September 5th- frugalitymom, Jenn The Heathen, AlwaysExcited, The Wanderer

September 6th- Escardora, sorchah (morning), Markie, SunnySideUp, BlessaYourHeart

September 7th- VixenToast, ViolaSebastian

September 8th- FrozenSmile, TuringMachine, candygirl200413, meee, Sydney Fox

September 10th- SeekingAdventure, ihaveanexamintwodays, Jatalie1996, JPickleDuggar

September 11th- Kjaerringa, HarleyQuinn, Nefernandes15, Mela99

September 12th- VeryNikeSeamstress

September 13th- Kangaroo, JoyfulSel

September 14th- Carm_88, Kimichaels147, GoddessOfVictory

September 16th- Karma        

October 1st- SapphireSlytherin

 

 

Weight

6lbs 8oz- WhoompThereItIs

7lbs 3oz- viii, Wenny

7lbs 5oz- JoyfulSel

7lbs 6oz- OyToTheVey, mysteriablue

7lbs 7oz- MissKnowItAll, Jaedzia

7lbs 8oz- MadeItOut, WiseGirl, candygirl200413

7lbs 9oz- jerkit, pook

7lbs 10oz- InTheNameOfRufus

7lbs 12oz- Quiver Full of Kittens, Berta McGee, Pinkdrink

7lbs 14oz- freshlemonade, SadieJane

7lbs 15oz- Lizzybet

8lbs- JermajestyDuggar, habert, anaandrade, So-Virgin-It-Hurts, albanuadh_1, AlwaysExcited, Jane M., ihaveanexamintwodays, Nice Pair

8lbs 1 oz- Rachel33, MayTheWilberforceBeWithYou, HRM1216, CinnaJen, JMO, meee

8lbs 2oz- adidas, Chewing Gum, flycat, hollywood

8lbs 3oz- Daisy0322, Jatalie1996, Gillyweed, Bad Wolf, Gobsmacked, MayMay1123, gilora, singsingsing

8 lbs 4oz- Sorenaj, The Wanderer, anjulibai, itqitc, VeryNikeSeamstress, RosyDaisy, Ding Dong Duggar, Kaylo, JPickleDuggar, Cheetah, Jenn The Heathen, ViolaSebastian

8lbs 5oz- Carm_88, aprilx, hollyandivy, jegfile, SassyPants

8lbs 6oz- NewSeasonOfLife, Suz8710, Kangaroo, ThunderRolls, FrozenSmile, justmy2cents

8lbs 7oz- dpndetfarm, Sydney Fox, breakfree

8lbs 8oz- JDuggs, ExposedKnees, TuringMachine, Fluffypaws, pamplemousse, uber frau, [email protected]

8lbs 9oz- Taylurker, TeamDefraudinSquad, GoddessofVictory, TuringMachine

8lbs 10oz- Markie, Lurker, season of life, ChunkyBarbie, mstee

8lbs 11oz- Million Children For Jesus, Rowan

8lbs 12oz- Karma

8lbs 13oz- TeaGrannie

8lbs 14oz- Kimichaels147

8lbs 15oz- meee                                                       

9lbs 1oz- VixenToast, tabitha2, BeccaGrim

9lbs 2oz- PainfullyAware, snickerz

9lbs 6oz- Indigo

9lbs 9oz- sadiZ

8 pound range- KelseyAnn

9 pounds+ - Nashville92

10 pounds (around)- SunnySideUp

 

Length

19 inches- MayTheWilberforceBeWithYou, gilora, Wenny

19.5 inches- sadiZ

20 inches- anaandrade, Jane M., ChunkyBarbie, ihaveanexamintwodays, Ding Dong Duggar, Pinkdrink, JPickleDuggar, BeccaGrim

20.5 inches- AlwaysExcited, HRM1216

21 inches- The Wanderer, Gobsmacked, Lurker, itqitc, viii, Taylurker, pook, Fluffypaws, Sydney Fox, SassyPants, Kaylo, SadieJane, ThunderRolls, mstee, mysteriablue, Nice Pair, JoyfulSel, Kimichaels147

21.5 inches- Million Children For Jesus, pamplemousse

22 inches- Daisy0322, Quiver Full of Kittens, VixenToast, Indigo, breakfree

23 inches- Nashville92

 

When They Will Announce

A week after he is born- Wenny

Within a Day- MadeItOut

A few days later- Nashville92, breakfree

When the new season starts- Kimichaels147

 

Birth Location

Birth location: on the toilet, at JoKen's wedding

Josh's location: Sitting in the pew, using Meredith to hide his face from TLC cameras

I'll bring all our lovely guesses over here now. :) New thread, time to update! 

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Jinder Roles

Wow, a lot of you FJ'ers have really strict standards for what is a 'proper' name. Especially ones in Europe.

You'd be experiencing major culture shock if you came to the Caribbean and experienced what I consider 'typical' names. We're more a little  more lax here (although classism and naming does exist)

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Georgiana
1 minute ago, Iokaste said:

And Astrid being tacky really surprises me, where would that be? 

It just really doesn't sound good to many English speaking ears, I think.  I LOVE Norse names, and I want DESPERATELY to love Astrid, but I can't.  

And the Office did an episode where Jan names her daughter Astrid and Michael calls her "Ass-turd" the whole time, which I think a lot of people can't un-hear.  The similarity in pronunciation does NOT help.  

Aslaug has a similar problem.  It's just not very...appealing phonetically to an English speaker.  

Freja and Ēastre/Ostara are on my short list though :)

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3 minutes ago, Georgiana said:

And the Office did an episode where Jan names her daughter Astrid and Michael calls her "Ass-turd" the whole time, which I think a lot of people can't un-hear.

Oh, good, I'm not the only person who thought of that! That was hilarious. I'm not sure many Americans would consider the name tacky, so much as they'd consider the pronunciation... unfortunate.

I'll be interested to see what the next name is but I have no educated guesses. Fundie names always seem to be such a weird mix. Then again, I can't even remember what M child # they're on at this point. :D 

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VelociRapture

@singsingsingThe blood test is usually done late in the first trimester or early in the second (if I remember right.) So likely between 11 and 14 weeks.* 

Some parents only do it to learn the SEX early - husband and I opted for it because we wanted to do the genetic testing due to my prior miscarriage and that's one of the tests used. The ultrasound was completely normal, but we got confused about the bloodwork and never did it. Whoops. 

As far as I know, some of the fetus' DNA passes into the mother's bloodstream during pregnancy. So they can tell the baby is a boy if they find male DNA present when they run the bloodwork. 

Anna definitely wasn't 20 weeks when they announced. If she was, she'd be a month overdue at this point. So I think it's possible they may have had the bloodtesting done this time, likely so they didn't have to announce the SEX in a separate announcement. Considering all that, I'd guess she's at least 35 weeks now (though she could be further along.)

*Currently pregnant moms, help! I can't remember the exact timeframe this test is usually performed.

ETA: Whitney Bates had this test done if I remember correctly. I believe they told family they were having a girl around Christmas 2015 and Kaci was born late June 2016.

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FecundFundieFundus

Kevin being perceived as a "trashy" name has me in stitches!! Everyone in my family has good, solid Irish names. That's my dad's name and I can't wait to tell him :GPn0zNK:

 

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SorenaJ

@seasonsoflife

"I get the Isabella, Natascha thing, but...Victoria? Daniel? Those are very classic names were I come from.

And its funny because here Astrid is as tacky as it gets."

That's so funny how much it differs. Here Victoria and Daniel are not classy, and Astrid is not tacky at all here. I would assume more about a person's class if they named their kid Victoria than Astrid, but apparently it differs.  

I quite like the English pronounciation of Astrid

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Satan'sFortress

I always like the name Astrid after reading about the Beatles' photographer friend, Astrid Kirchherr, from their Hamburg, Germany days.  She was ultra-mod with a super cute short haircut.  

Astrid-and-Stu.jpg

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Tjay

I'm From Victoria, Australia and Astrid (I think it's a lovely name) isn't considered tacky here, Victoria and Daniel seem a little dated to me. 

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AtlanticTug

I have been thinking all along that the best outcome for them would be to have had the baby before the JoeKen wedding and then make an appearance at the wedding itself. This would take care of the announcement on social media while also burying it in the wedding itself to garner less attention to the disaster that is Josh.

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CorruptionInc.
3 hours ago, Jinder Roles said:

Wow, a lot of you FJ'ers have really strict standards for what is a 'proper' name. Especially ones in Europe.

You'd be experiencing major culture shock if you came to the Caribbean and experienced what I consider 'typical' names. We're more a little  more lax here (although classism and naming does exist)

I just know that what we may think is "odd" is perfectly normal to someone else; because the world is a diverse place! :)

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Honeysuckle

I should update my guess, since we had no idea of the due date initially. I'm sticking with Maverick, updating birth date to 9/12, and adding in a weight guess of 7lb14oz.

I think it's so interesting what names are considered trashy and classy in different countries. Names are a big hobby of mine, and I consider the yearly release of the new SSA popularity lists to be an unofficial holiday. I'm way less of a name purist than I used to be. I've accepted that most people are pretty OK with the name they grow up with. Even the ones with super weird spellings will complain about the inconvenience but very rarely take steps to legally change the spelling.

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seasonsoflife

@Cleopatra7

(From last topic)

Kevin is considered the quintessential tacky name in my neck of the woods alongside Jonathan, Brian, Jackeline, Jennifer and Jessica.

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Incognito22

My prediction is that hurricane Irma will have come and gone and I'll even have power restored before this baby is born. What's taking so long?  What could he possibly be doing in there?  It's gotta be cramped as hell.  Stretch your legs son.

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SassyPants

They'll announce the birth at more strategic time- You know, Duggar Time.

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FreeCalifornia
6 hours ago, VelociRapture said:

 

As far as I know, some of the fetus' DNA passes into the mother's bloodstream during pregnancy. So they can tell the baby is a boy if they find male DNA present when they run the bloodwork. 

Anna definitely wasn't 20 weeks when they announced. If she was, she'd be a month overdue at this point. So I think it's possible they may have had the bloodtesting done this time, 

*Currently pregnant moms, help! I can't remember the exact timeframe this test is usually done

I had mine at 9 weeks and results were in 3 days later

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5 hours ago, FecundFundieFundus said:

Kevin being perceived as a "trashy" name has me in stitches!! Everyone in my family has good, solid Irish names. That's my dad's name and I can't wait to tell him :GPn0zNK:

 

We have a new bridge in Scotland named Kevin!!!!!

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marmalade

Erin Bates Paine also had hers done super early. I think she announced the pregnancy, SEX, and NAME at the same time on the little baby quilt (they just showed a baby retrospective special on BuB a couple of days ago, so this is fresh in my mind). 

I doubt Anna had that testing done. She looked about ready to pop on that trip to RU, so if she hasn't had the baby yet, I'd wager she's due any second. We'll have to keep an eye out for her at the JoKen festivities, which are supposedly tomorrow (Friday). I think she may stay home to fuel more talk. And they won't announce immediately. If she's already had the baby, they may announce Monday, unless they "officially" use that day for People to reveal the JoKen wedding leading up to the season premiere. 

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@Satan'sFortress I love the name Astrid too! To me it sounds like a super cool name, like someone who's well-mannered but also hip & cool.

Astrid Kirchherr is actually the one responsible for the Beatles hair cuts! She cut their hair and photographed them during their time in Hamburg. Talk about a trendsetter!

 

 

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Shadoewolf

Now see I hear Astrid and I think of How To Train Your Dragon.

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14 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

We have a new bridge in Scotland named Kevin!!!!!

Apparently in the San Francisco bay area, the ubiquitous fog has been named Karl.

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nickelodeon

Or Astrid Lindgren! As we can see, there are a lot of truly rockin' Astrids out there.

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Kangaroo

Here a lot of these names just sound old fashioned, not tacky. Take Kevin for example. Kevin is your grandfather or maybe your fathers name, but a kid born today would probably only get Kevin as a middle name.

The only time I come across young people with old fashioned names has been immigrants from overseas or the child of immigrants that grows up here but decides to go by an English name instead of their given one.  Kevin, Simon, Jonathan, Andy/Anthony, Jennifer, Florence, Michelle and Kelly are all names you don't see given to babies, but I know about 10 of each who are all much younger than when the name was most popular.

My name is rather old fashioned compared to when it was most popular (My dad wanted to call me Helen and to this day I am grateful that didn't happen!), but it's coming back into fashion thanks to immigrants adopting it as their English name!

 

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