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They are also absolutely Remiss in their duty to their country, ignoring and avoiding their Responsibilities to the Constitution.

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4 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

White House officials and informal advisers say the triggers for his temper are if he thinks someone is lying to him, if he’s caught by surprise, if someone criticizes him, or if someone stops him from trying to do something or seeks to control him.

Good Lord, that is mental illness on a high level. You know, this man would never be able to work at a regular job. He wouldn't last a day at McDonalds. He would be out in a week at any business, contract be damned. Hell, he couldn't even be a Walmart greeter. He has to be the boss, everyone's boss.

He needs to be isolated and most of all, Twitter needs to cut him off. He's endangering people. Aren't there rules? With more, yes more people in the WH talking, it appears that he gets little respect from his staff. They may be suffering from PTSD at this point. Of course, they can always leave. Or can they?

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5 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

I recall seeing ads years ago for a television show about a really strict nanny who helped parents with out-of-control children. Can we please start a gofundme to hire her? :pray:

I'm sick and tired of being locked inside of a supermarket with a young child who throws tantrums for most of his waking hours because his mom won't buy him a candy bar. :angry-cussingblack:

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About those so-called 'fine' people amongst the white-supremacists in Charlottesville...

 

5 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

I recall seeing ads years ago for a television show about a really strict nanny who helped parents with out-of-control children. Can we please start a gofundme to hire her? :pray:

I'm sick and tired of being locked inside of a supermarket with a young child who throws tantrums for most of his waking hours because his mom won't buy him a candy bar. :angry-cussingblack:

Ha, just the other day we were talking about her in the John Kelly thread. Supernanny Jo Frost to the rescue!

 

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24 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

Ha, just the other day we were talking about her in the John Kelly thread. Supernanny Jo Frost to the rescue!

In addition to the wonderful Jo Frost, we had "Nanny 911" for a few years.  I never liked that one as much as Supernanny, but some episodes were pretty good. I believe it was Nanny Stella who specialized in tantrums.

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Let's get him team tagged - Nanny Jo AND Nanny Stella!  It would probably take the two of them - someone has to take the night shift, and stop the tweets.....

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Oh boy, every time he unasseptibly goes on twitter, he'll have to sit on the naughty step... for a full 71 minutes :pb_lol:

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3 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

On Wednesday Trump had to dissolve his business advisory councils because the C.E.O.s were fleeing like panic-stricken geese from a jumbo jet. We now have a president who can’t get the head of Campbell Soup to the White House.

You know, it's a mystery worthy of Fred, Daphne, Thelma, Shaggy, Scooby and Scrappy-Doo, why nobody from Trump's evangelical advisory council has stepped down in light of Trump's comments about Charlottesville. :think:

 Sure hope Scooby and the gang can solve this for us.  :auto-mysterymachine:

 

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7 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

You know, it's a mystery worthy of Fred, Daphne, Thelma, Shaggy, Scooby and Scrappy-Doo, why nobody from Trump's evangelical advisory council has stepped down in light of Trump's comments about Charlottesville. :think:

 Sure hope Scooby and the gang can solve this for us.  :auto-mysterymachine:

 

We'd be better off with Scooby-Doo and the gang in power. Hell, we'd be better off with Scooby as president.

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So. Re Cheeto’s tweet. I have a few things:

1) that urban legend is bullshit, and if it were not that would be a fucking war crime. 

2) what happened to not speaking publicly without all the facts?

3) last I looked there was still no solid evidence that this had anything to do with Islam. 

Racist fucking bag of dicks. 

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Satan would make a better President than Trump. I'm not even kidding. He really would.

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12 minutes ago, Destiny said:

So. Re Cheeto’s tweet. I have a few things:

1) that urban legend is bullshit, and if it were not that would be a fucking war crime. 

2) what happened to not speaking publicly without all the facts?

3) last I looked there was still no solid evidence that this had anything to do with Islam. 

Racist fucking bag of dicks. 

I'm pretty sure that radical Muslims have figured out a way to conveniently step around any road blocks to heaven that violate their dogma, just as fundamentalist Christians have figured out how to step around those inconvenient words of Jesus that get in the way of their path to eternal salvation. So let's suggest a solution that's not really a solution.

The irony with the "facts!" speech of Tuesday and this non-fact tweet-no one could do a better job of proving them self a liar than him!

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55 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

Oh boy, every time he unasseptibly goes on twitter, he'll have to sit on the naughty step... for a full 71 minutes :pb_lol:

No, he's bad enough to need 71 HOURS. For each incident. Without his phone or access to Faux News.

 

"When ‘getting away with it’ is all Trump cares about"

Spoiler

Sam Waterston is a stage, film and television actor and serves on the board of Oceana and the emeritus board of Refugees International.

Shortly after the new administration took office, I wrote for The Post, “The great issue of today is lying — constant lying in public.” Seven months in, it’s clear that lying is not the disease afflicting us, just the most obvious symptom. The infection’s name is “getting away with it.”

The phrase “getting away with it” didn’t even exist as an expression until the middle of the 19th century. It came into general use over the following few decades, coincident with the Darwinian phrase “survival of the fittest” and Nietzsche’s “God is dead.” In the 2012 book “Missing Out,” in a chapter entitled “On Getting Away With It,” psychiatrist Adam Phillips suggested we had, just in the last century, gone from regarding “getting away with it” as immoral — perhaps a forbidden pleasure we might secretly admire, sometimes indulge, but could never approve — to its elevation to a highest-value goal.

In the chapter’s conclusion he writes, “But what if getting away with it was a new moral principle or project? . . . In this new morality — which sounds like a moral game, or a parody of the idea of morality — moral excellence would reside in being able to successfully exempt yourself from rules you have consented to. . . . The Good Person would be replaced by the Impressive Person; and what would impress would be the breaking of rules without punishment. . . . Where once there were the principled, now there would be the opportunists; the clever would displace the pious.” He all but foretold the election of President Trump.

We have not-so-gradually succumbed to the view that disregarding society’s common understandings, some legal, some moral (in the twin senses of common ethics and of mores, the ways people commonly behave), is a positive good, when you get away with it.

Getting away with things is a very old American tradition, as old as Tom Sawyer’s picket fence, as American as its cousin “questioning authority.” Because we’re all kind of suckers for impertinence, “getting away with it” as a moral principle is just that much more dangerous to us.

When Trump gets away with flouting a rule, even as he pretends to consent to it, when he gets away with a lie, even as he pretends to consent to the commandment not to lie, he readily congratulates himself: by his own values — values our society broadly understands, and sometimes almost shares (sometimes in jest, sometimes in horror, sometimes with a delicious sense of trespass) — “getting away with it” is good, in and of itself. And if the president is comfortable being surrounded by confusion and chaos, it may be because, when your primary goal is getting away with things, chaos and confusion are your friend.

Russian President Vladimir Putin initially gave smirking denials that the “little green men” invading Ukraine were Russians, declared that they were not in the Russian army or that they were on leave, until, still smiling, he finally allowed they were acting under his orders all along. It didn’t matter if no one believed him. It was all an ostentatious version of getting away with it.

Using the same playbook, Trump can proudly boast he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and get away with it; he can say, “My taxes are under audit,” as an empty excuse to not show his tax records; he can publicly invite police to rough up suspects; and he can even lie to the Boy Scouts. He can press for passage of a bill and oppose it at the same time. He can ask his advisers whether he can pardon himself — the ultimate getting away with it — and pretend it’s a legitimate question. Anything’s possible.

The country is in a tough spot. But knowing what you’re up against is half the battle, and we know that Trump’s “getting away with it” is a parody of morality.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Destiny said:

What happened to not speaking publicly without all the facts?

According to page one of the Bigly Book of Trump, that only applies when it looks like the suspect is a conservative white Christian. 

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6 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

No, he's bad enough to need 71 HOURS. For each incident. Without his phone or access to Faux News.

 

"When ‘getting away with it’ is all Trump cares about"

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Sam Waterston is a stage, film and television actor and serves on the board of Oceana and the emeritus board of Refugees International.

Shortly after the new administration took office, I wrote for The Post, “The great issue of today is lying — constant lying in public.” Seven months in, it’s clear that lying is not the disease afflicting us, just the most obvious symptom. The infection’s name is “getting away with it.”

The phrase “getting away with it” didn’t even exist as an expression until the middle of the 19th century. It came into general use over the following few decades, coincident with the Darwinian phrase “survival of the fittest” and Nietzsche’s “God is dead.” In the 2012 book “Missing Out,” in a chapter entitled “On Getting Away With It,” psychiatrist Adam Phillips suggested we had, just in the last century, gone from regarding “getting away with it” as immoral — perhaps a forbidden pleasure we might secretly admire, sometimes indulge, but could never approve — to its elevation to a highest-value goal.

In the chapter’s conclusion he writes, “But what if getting away with it was a new moral principle or project? . . . In this new morality — which sounds like a moral game, or a parody of the idea of morality — moral excellence would reside in being able to successfully exempt yourself from rules you have consented to. . . . The Good Person would be replaced by the Impressive Person; and what would impress would be the breaking of rules without punishment. . . . Where once there were the principled, now there would be the opportunists; the clever would displace the pious.” He all but foretold the election of President Trump.

We have not-so-gradually succumbed to the view that disregarding society’s common understandings, some legal, some moral (in the twin senses of common ethics and of mores, the ways people commonly behave), is a positive good, when you get away with it.

Getting away with things is a very old American tradition, as old as Tom Sawyer’s picket fence, as American as its cousin “questioning authority.” Because we’re all kind of suckers for impertinence, “getting away with it” as a moral principle is just that much more dangerous to us.

When Trump gets away with flouting a rule, even as he pretends to consent to it, when he gets away with a lie, even as he pretends to consent to the commandment not to lie, he readily congratulates himself: by his own values — values our society broadly understands, and sometimes almost shares (sometimes in jest, sometimes in horror, sometimes with a delicious sense of trespass) — “getting away with it” is good, in and of itself. And if the president is comfortable being surrounded by confusion and chaos, it may be because, when your primary goal is getting away with things, chaos and confusion are your friend.

Russian President Vladimir Putin initially gave smirking denials that the “little green men” invading Ukraine were Russians, declared that they were not in the Russian army or that they were on leave, until, still smiling, he finally allowed they were acting under his orders all along. It didn’t matter if no one believed him. It was all an ostentatious version of getting away with it.

Using the same playbook, Trump can proudly boast he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and get away with it; he can say, “My taxes are under audit,” as an empty excuse to not show his tax records; he can publicly invite police to rough up suspects; and he can even lie to the Boy Scouts. He can press for passage of a bill and oppose it at the same time. He can ask his advisers whether he can pardon himself — the ultimate getting away with it — and pretend it’s a legitimate question. Anything’s possible.

The country is in a tough spot. But knowing what you’re up against is half the battle, and we know that Trump’s “getting away with it” is a parody of morality.

 

 

But let's all hope he gets 71 YEARS. For each and every offence. Minimum.

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Rep. Cohen (TN-D) intends to introduce articles of impeachment. 

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5995a204e4b06ef724d6de57/amp

We'd need a constitutional lawyer  to tell us the odds if this being successful. I think there are grounds to bring impeachment, but maybe not to remove him yet. That's kind of a moot point though since the Republicans are still in charge. If they were smart they'd cut their losses while they could still salvage some dignity, but I doubt that'll happen. 

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"Deepening GOP split, Trump attacks Republican senators Graham, Flake as ‘publicity-seeking,’ ‘toxic’"

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President Trump went on the offensive Thursday against two Republican senators, attacking them for their recent criticisms of his divisive governing style and response to the violence in Charlottesville.

In a morning tweetstorm, Trump lambasted Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.), calling Graham “publicity-seeking” and Flake “toxic” and endorsing a primary challenger to Flake in his reelection bid next year. Flake recently published a book that was highly critical of Trump.

Trump appeared to throw his support behind former Arizona state senator Kelli Ward, who is already mounting a primary challenge against Flake.

...

Flake wrote in his book that Republicans abandoned their principles in the face of Trump's unorthodox campaign and surrendered to the “politics of anger.” The party gave in to “the belief that riling up the base can make up for failed attempts to broaden the electorate,” Flake wrote in “Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Politics and a Return to Principle.” “These are the spasms of a dying party.”

Ward is an osteopathic physician who unsuccessfully challenged Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2016, using the senator's advanced age against him. This time, Ward is hoping to use Flake's opposition to Trump to her advantage.

“Jeff Flake has been unable to effectively serve the people of Arizona. That’s the big story,” she said in an interview last week. “That’s why he has such dismal job approval ratings. He’s been there almost 20 years and has accomplished really nothing. His values don’t align with his constituents and it’s time for him to be sent back home and send somebody to Washington, D.C. who can accomplish the America First agenda that the president put forth but that the American people embraced across this entire country.”

Ward said that she's especially upset with Flake's recent words and actions on health care and taxes — even though he voted for the GOP health-care bill and is supportive of attempts to overhaul the tax code.

So where has Flake gone wrong?

On taxes, “he's already come out with his opposition,” Ward claimed. “Rather than saying 'I’m looking forward to what Donald Trump puts forward so that we can accomplish the goal of lowering taxes across the board and making sure that our American economy thrives,' he puts a negative spin on it from the beginning.”

And on health care, she said she's upset with “his behavior — I'll call it his behavior on Obamacare.

“When the bill was over in the House, Jeff Flake was over in the Senate telling reporters … that there just was no appetite for full repeal of Obamacare in the Senate. He was whispering to his donors in the hospital corporations and the insurance industry not to worry.”

Ward specifically cited a Washington Post story from May that included Flake telling constituents that he had a “hard time believing” that the Senate would vote to pass health-care legislation before the August recess.

Flake's campaign spokesman responded in a statement, “You don't serve Arizona by cutting backroom deals in Washington, D.C. That's why Senator Flake will always fight for the people of our state.”

McCain tweeted a defense of Flake.

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Trump also slammed Graham, who was among the Republicans who criticized Trump for failing to offer a full-throated condemnation of the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. The president waited two days before denouncing the neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan groups that organized the Unite the Right event, only to reverse course Tuesday to again blame “both sides” for the violence that left a counterprotester, Heather Heyer, dead. Two police officers also died in a helicopter crash.

In going after Graham, Trump suggested the senator, who also ran for president in 2016, was still smarting from his loss to Trump in the Republican primaries.

...

Graham responded with a statement in which he said Trump's handling of the Charlottesville violence was being praised by “some of the most racist and hate-filled individuals and groups in our country. For the sake of our Nation — as our President — please fix this. History is watching us all.”

Trump's tweets made clear that the president is willing to challenge fellow Republican lawmakers and potentially imperil their reelection chances if they criticize him. The GOP holds a narrow 52-48 margin in the Senate, though most political analysts say it will be difficult for Democrats to win back the chambers in 2018 because of the election map favoring Republicans.

But Trump also needs to maintain party loyalty to help pass his legislative agenda, including upcoming efforts at tax revision and, perhaps, infrastructure. McCain, for example, cast a crucial vote against the GOP's effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act, prompting Trump to attack him repeatedly — including yet again on Tuesday during his heated news conference in New York.

It would be nice if some of these Repugs would harden their spines and formally censure the orange menace. I know, dream on, right?

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For anyone in need of a little nostalgia for what it was like when there still was a president:

 

Such a stark contrast, isn't it, to what the presidunce tweeted on this subject.

3 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

"Deepening GOP split, Trump attacks Republican senators Graham, Flake as ‘publicity-seeking,’ ‘toxic’"

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President Trump went on the offensive Thursday against two Republican senators, attacking them for their recent criticisms of his divisive governing style and response to the violence in Charlottesville.

In a morning tweetstorm, Trump lambasted Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.), calling Graham “publicity-seeking” and Flake “toxic” and endorsing a primary challenger to Flake in his reelection bid next year. Flake recently published a book that was highly critical of Trump.

Trump appeared to throw his support behind former Arizona state senator Kelli Ward, who is already mounting a primary challenge against Flake.

...

Flake wrote in his book that Republicans abandoned their principles in the face of Trump's unorthodox campaign and surrendered to the “politics of anger.” The party gave in to “the belief that riling up the base can make up for failed attempts to broaden the electorate,” Flake wrote in “Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Politics and a Return to Principle.” “These are the spasms of a dying party.”

Ward is an osteopathic physician who unsuccessfully challenged Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2016, using the senator's advanced age against him. This time, Ward is hoping to use Flake's opposition to Trump to her advantage.

“Jeff Flake has been unable to effectively serve the people of Arizona. That’s the big story,” she said in an interview last week. “That’s why he has such dismal job approval ratings. He’s been there almost 20 years and has accomplished really nothing. His values don’t align with his constituents and it’s time for him to be sent back home and send somebody to Washington, D.C. who can accomplish the America First agenda that the president put forth but that the American people embraced across this entire country.”

Ward said that she's especially upset with Flake's recent words and actions on health care and taxes — even though he voted for the GOP health-care bill and is supportive of attempts to overhaul the tax code.

So where has Flake gone wrong?

On taxes, “he's already come out with his opposition,” Ward claimed. “Rather than saying 'I’m looking forward to what Donald Trump puts forward so that we can accomplish the goal of lowering taxes across the board and making sure that our American economy thrives,' he puts a negative spin on it from the beginning.”

And on health care, she said she's upset with “his behavior — I'll call it his behavior on Obamacare.

“When the bill was over in the House, Jeff Flake was over in the Senate telling reporters … that there just was no appetite for full repeal of Obamacare in the Senate. He was whispering to his donors in the hospital corporations and the insurance industry not to worry.”

Ward specifically cited a Washington Post story from May that included Flake telling constituents that he had a “hard time believing” that the Senate would vote to pass health-care legislation before the August recess.

Flake's campaign spokesman responded in a statement, “You don't serve Arizona by cutting backroom deals in Washington, D.C. That's why Senator Flake will always fight for the people of our state.”

McCain tweeted a defense of Flake.

...

Trump also slammed Graham, who was among the Republicans who criticized Trump for failing to offer a full-throated condemnation of the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. The president waited two days before denouncing the neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan groups that organized the Unite the Right event, only to reverse course Tuesday to again blame “both sides” for the violence that left a counterprotester, Heather Heyer, dead. Two police officers also died in a helicopter crash.

In going after Graham, Trump suggested the senator, who also ran for president in 2016, was still smarting from his loss to Trump in the Republican primaries.

...

Graham responded with a statement in which he said Trump's handling of the Charlottesville violence was being praised by “some of the most racist and hate-filled individuals and groups in our country. For the sake of our Nation — as our President — please fix this. History is watching us all.”

Trump's tweets made clear that the president is willing to challenge fellow Republican lawmakers and potentially imperil their reelection chances if they criticize him. The GOP holds a narrow 52-48 margin in the Senate, though most political analysts say it will be difficult for Democrats to win back the chambers in 2018 because of the election map favoring Republicans.

But Trump also needs to maintain party loyalty to help pass his legislative agenda, including upcoming efforts at tax revision and, perhaps, infrastructure. McCain, for example, cast a crucial vote against the GOP's effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act, prompting Trump to attack him repeatedly — including yet again on Tuesday during his heated news conference in New York.

It would be nice if some of these Repugs would harden their spines and formally censure the orange menace. I know, dream on, right?

I'm beginning to believe that even if he shot someone on 5th avenue, they still wouldn't do anything. :pb_sad:

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Meanwhile, in Berlin:

 

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Bwa-ha-hahahahaha... heh... hahahaha... snort... oh, the irony, the IRONY!  :56247976a36a8_Gigglespatgiggle:

This Republican Candidate Had a Little Trouble Voting on Tuesday

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Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama showed up to vote, presumably for himself, in the state’s Republican Senate primary on Tuesday, only to learn that he had been ensnared by a voter suppression tactic.

Republicans across the country have launched campaigns to root out fraudulent voting—despite no evidence that it’s a widespread problem—and in Alabama and several other states, they’ve done this by sending mailers to registered voters asking them to confirm their registration. Voters who do not respond are put on an “inactive” list and ultimately removed from the rolls. It’s a tactic that has a disproportionate effect on low-income and minority voters, who are more likely to have changed address, or not to receive or respond to the mailer, and who vote less often. But when Brooks, a candidate for Senate, arrived at his polling location in Huntsville on Tuesday, he learned that he was on the inactive list, reports AL.com. 

Earlier this year, Alabama’s Republican Secretary of State, John Merrill, mailed non-forwardable notices to every registered voter in Alabama, asking voters to confirm their address. Anyone whose mailer was delivered but did not respond was moved to the inactive list. For voters whose mailers came back as undeliverable from the post office, Merrill sent out a second mailer, this time by forwardable mail. If this second notice was not answered or returned as undeliverable, these voters also were placed on the inactive list. Voters on the inactive list can still cast a ballot after filling out a form to update their information.

When Brooks showed up, he learned he was on the inactive list. So was state Rep. Patricia Todd, a Democrat. Apparently, both politicians had been placed on the list erroneously. According to Merrill, the US Postal Service had failed to deliver the cards. (Brooks finished in third place and will not advance to a runoff vote.)

As Brooks’ experience demonstrates, eligible voters can easily end up on the inactive list. Anyone on the inactive list who fails to vote in two federal election cycles is removed from the rolls. If an inactive voter skips two election cycles and then decides to vote again, that person would be turned away from the polls. Mailings like the one in Alabama are part of a nationwide voter purge effort spearheaded by three lawyers who worked in the Justice Department under President George W. Bush. With two of the state’s most privileged and well-informed voters foiled by the tactic, it’s not hard to imagine thousands of low-income and minority voters being disenfranchised.

The mailer strategy is reminiscent of re-registration, a tactic adopted by a few states after passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that required voters to register every year or two in order to stay on the rolls. The premise behind these laws was that white voters would be more likely to re-register each year than African Americans. It turned out to be true.

Merrill described the state-wide mailing, which happens every four years in Alabama, as a way to “preserve the activity” of the voter rolls and “add credibility” to them. He opposes automatic voter registration and believes that voting is a “privilege” reserved for those who demonstrate the initiative to register. “If you’re too sorry or lazy to get up off of your rear and to go register to vote, or to register electronically, and then to go vote, then you don’t deserve that privilege,” Merrill said in an interview last year. “As long as I’m secretary of state of Alabama, you’re going to have to show some initiative to become a registered voter in this state.” More initiative, apparently, than was demonstrated by one of the state’s Congressional representatives. 

 

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41 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

I'm beginning to believe that even if he shot someone on 5th avenue, they still wouldn't do anything. :pb_sad:

Torture, murder, necrophilia, followed up by cannibalism, would rate a "concerning" or "unacceptable" from House and Senate Republicans. The Theocracy, Now! council would have no comment, and Hannity would ask his viewers to vote on what condiment to use.

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4 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

Hannity would ask his viewers to vote on what condiment to use.

I wish I could upvote this a million times - the first belly laugh I've had in ages.....

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1 hour ago, GreyhoundFan said:

It would be nice if some of these Repugs would harden their spines and formally censure the orange menace. I know, dream on, right?

More like find their damn gonads.  So few have so far.  The more he he goes nuts on Twitter, and the more he attacks Republican Congress people for doing their jobs, then the more I begin to hope they will stand up and be counted.  

But perhaps I am a bit too optimistic.  It is going to take a bipartisan effort to impeach him let alone oust him.

It is a pity Congress just can't call for a general referendum against Trump.   Yesterday.

 

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23 hours ago, candygirl200413 said:

They also removed protections for freaking bridges so they wouldn't have to adhere to the rising water levels for his infrastructure plans like what?!

Well climate change is a Chinese hoax so why preparing for its consequences?

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